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[09:52] <goomohn> is 20.04 really unstable? i want a 5 yr OS but 18.04 ends in 2
[09:52] <guiverc> goomohn, no ot
[09:53] <guiverc> sorry, it's still under development so it's not considered stable; but that's not really unstable.  things can still change with 20.04
[09:54] <guiverc> Lubuntu 18.04 LTS support will end 2018-April + 3 years = 2021-April (less than 2 years left)
[09:54] <guiverc> 5 years refers to Ubuntu itself (server or desktop) and not flavors
[09:55] <goomohn> i still get community updates on 16.04
[09:57] <guiverc> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Ubuntu desktop, server and Kylin (it had 5 years for 16.04 only) is still supported, if you check `ubuntu-support-status` you'll note all other components are EOL, ie. lxde/xfce/gnome/mate/kde/etc desktop parts are EOL, only Unity 7 desktop & Kylin are still supported & getting updates
[10:04] <goomohn> so, 20.04 stable branch starts next month? is there a day set because i need to get rid of win10 on this pc before may force updates
[10:11] <guiverc> goomohn, sorry for delay, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule says Thur April 23, if it gets pushed a week it'll be the next Thursday.
[10:15] <goomohn> thanks
[11:08] <Ann1ca> I'm using Konsole version  4:19.04.3-0ubuntu1  looks like cursor settings under advanced settings has been removed. Do you guys have the same issue ?
[11:15] <kc2bez> Ann1ca: Lubuntu doesn't use Konsole by default. You may want to check in #kubuntu
[11:19] <Ann1ca> kc2bez:  Yes, I know. But I'm using  Lubuntu (gtk). And so, I'm wondering if it might be some kind of system issue. Becase kubuntu users don't have this problem.
[11:20] <kc2bez> Which version of Lubuntu?
[11:20] <Ann1ca> 19.10
[11:21] <Ann1ca> The whole settings page has been changed. Now, under Advanced, where the cursor settings used to be, there's no  option for customization of the cursor  anymore
[11:22] <Ann1ca> Sorry for the typos
[11:22] <kc2bez> 19.10 is not gtk based. It is qt based. That being said, Konsole should behave the same in both Kubuntu and Lubuntu.
[11:23] <kc2bez> I am not familiar enough with konsole to know I would have to install it in both to see the differences
[11:24] <Ann1ca> kc2bez:  True - and so that's why I'm wondering what happened. Do you have the same issue  ?
[11:25] <kc2bez> I have to start up a couple of virtual machines to test. It might take a bit.
[11:27] <Ann1ca> Oh, you don't have to go through all the toruble
[11:31] <guiverc> FYI: I have konsole installed (4:19.12.3-0ubuntu1) but what Advanced.Settings do you mean?
[11:33] <guiverc> Under (Konsole)->Profile->Advanced I don't see cursor settings; is this what you're asking?
[11:37] <kc2bez> side by side kubuntu's konsole looks just like the konsole I have installed in Lubuntu.
[11:38] <Ann1ca> Yes, that's it. I can't see cursor settings there neither
[11:39] <Ann1ca> I'm visually impaired. So color settings  are very important  for me. I'd   swap to  lxterminal i fI could change the  cursor color on that one. But  lxterminal has evne fewever options
[11:40] <kc2bez> cursor settings are in a tab in appearance
[11:40] <Ann1ca> It's somewhat strange why sudenly teh cursor options is no longer there under advanced
[11:40] <Ann1ca> Oh, no I don't mean the mouse cursor.I mena the terminal cursor
[11:42] <kc2bez> so on the left above advanced is a tab for appearance. in appearance is another tab for the terminal cursor.
[11:45] <Ann1ca> Now I'm confused....
[11:46] <Ann1ca> You're no ttalking about the  konsole settings pag e now..right ?
[11:47] <kc2bez> Yes. in the konsole settings.
[11:51] <Ann1ca> kc2bez:  Wooohooo !!! I found it...ohhhh  THANK you so much  !!! xxx
[11:52] <kc2bez> You are welcome Ann1ca
[11:56] <Ann1ca> Okay, I've to go....kc2 You've made someone  happy todoay ! :-)
[18:37] <allan_> ola
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[22:09] <prumpi> Hi My name is Fannar greetings from Iceland
[22:09] <prumpi> is there an "easy" way to install radeon drivers on Lubuntu for laptops
[22:09] <prumpi> google is not giving me to much help atm
[22:17] <prumpi> lspci out put says:
[22:17] <prumpi> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler LE [Radeo
[22:17] <prumpi> n HD 6610M/7610M] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:17] <prumpi>         Subsystem: Toshiba Corporation Radeon HD 7610M
[22:18] <krabador> prumpi, opensource amd drivers are default
[22:25] <prumpi> hmm... but i dont seem to have any options for graphic card not even when pluging in hdmi to the tv
[22:27] <prumpi> i dont get any openGL info or driver info in the system info for the display
[22:38] <krabador> prumpi, https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[22:38] <krabador> your card is supported by radeon driver
[23:00] <tomreyn> prumpi: there are no similarily levelled GUI utilities for open source drivers such as there are on windows or for nvidias' smi application, but this is really just a metter of convenience, you can still get all the info and tweaks things on a temrinal and with scripting
[23:04] <prumpi> thanks krabador
[23:04] <prumpi> and thanks tomreyn
[23:05] <krabador> enjoy
[23:06] <prumpi> yeah i figured that out ther aint no gui tools, I just booted kali live and had no problems connecting an TV trough HDMI and i dont seem to figure out "updateing" or installing drivers on lubuntu
[23:06] <tomreyn> you don't usually. exceptions apply when you have very recent hardware (but you don't)
[23:07] <prumpi> I have ubuntu on my desktop 18.04 and theres no problem there either
[23:07] <tomreyn> glxinfo -b     provides some info on 3d acceleration capabilities
[23:09] <prumpi> hmm mesa-utils should be installed by default then ?
[23:09] <tomreyn> experiment with      vblank_mode=1 glmark2       vs     vblank_mode=0 glmark2
[23:09] <prumpi> $ glxinfo -b
[23:09] <prumpi> 33
[23:09] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what's (not) installed by default
[23:10] <prumpi> this is the output of glxinfo -b
[23:10] <prumpi> :D
[23:10] <tomreyn> glxinfo -B      sorry
[23:13] <tomreyn> also have a look at these which can be useful https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html
[23:14] <tomreyn> e.g. GALLIUM_HUD can add an fps counter to any 3d graphics application
[23:14] <tomreyn> (and more)
[23:15] <tomreyn> most of the open drivers are built around MESA, yours included
[23:16] <prumpi> Thank you for your time, alot learned and more digging to do :P
[23:17] <tomreyn> :) you're welcome.
[23:18] <tomreyn> some examples here https://manerosss.wordpress.com/2017/07/13/howto-gallium-hud/