[00:01] Guess I still ask the most advanced questions nobody can answer. :) [00:02] BenLubar: seems like all updates to ddebs stopped on 24th Feb /join #canonical-sysadmin === popey7 is now known as popey [01:09] Hmmm, this is frustratingly silly. Why when I search for a package, like devilspie, in the Software Store app, it finds nothing, but apt search devilspie, it finds both devilspie and devilspie2? [01:13] is the store part of a payola system? and apt is free? [01:17] donofrio: no [01:18] Psi-Jack: some commandline tools don't show up in the software store [01:18] Apparently. [01:18] But... Why? [01:19] Psi-Jack, A question better suited for #ubuntu-discuss === jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh === Napsterbater is now known as Guest14115 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [02:20] how do i secure erase a sd card? im reading that dd with zeros is not enough [02:20] hey azizLIGHT :) [02:20] hello [02:21] azizLIGHT: use /dev/urandom -- and be aware that there's a possibilty previously written blocks were remapped somewhere along the way, and there might not be a way to easily wipe the whole thing [02:22] azizLIGHT, If you plan to use the card aftwards... zero it out should be enough. soon as you start using the card for normal stuff, the residual because harder to find [02:23] azizLIGHT, if this is for disposal... urandom for a couple passes is probably sufficient === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:24] okay thank you [02:42] o/ [02:43] poppills [02:47] PoPpiLLs, Cannot establish FTP connection to an SFTP server. Please select proper protocol. i am facing this issue at time connection of sftp [02:49] lol [02:49] thanks issue solved [02:57] what the right directory to a package's systemd service and one .sh it executes? [02:58] Betal, problem solved [02:58] thanks [02:59] Rockwood: what? [02:59] no [02:59] sorry [03:00] join #nginx [03:20] hi, I am having an issue with git, which is not related directly to git [03:20] I am on Ubuntu Server 18.04.4, fresh install. [03:20] is there any known issues with git? [03:20] in the 18.04 repos i mean [03:21] it's git; it's not terribly friendly at the best of times.. [03:22] Yeah, but this is LTS it should have stable versions [03:22] I am pretty sure the issue is with one of it's depends which I installing using apt build-dep [03:23] like cloning a new repo with only a few dozen commits and less than 30mb source total, allocated 200gb of RAM [03:23] which... I actually have available, but it OOM still [03:23] I have 1.5tb RAM, but it says OOM error for 203ish gb ram [03:24] This is ridiculous, and I have confirmed the server works with other distros [03:24] parrotlover: you may find this useful, or at least interesting https://github.blog/2018-03-05-measuring-the-many-sizes-of-a-git-repository/ [03:25] Yeah but I know the repo was init'd yesterday [03:26] also, 1.5tb RAM, yet OOM due to 203gb, which is an insane amount [03:26] if git was supposed to take that much RAM no one would use it but rich people with ridiculous hardware [03:28] yeah, that feels surprising; but there's lots of ways to hit OOM, including the kernel being unable to find large enough contiguous memory when needed; if every-other-physical-page of memory were allocated, you'd be using only half the ram but would oom *really* quickly [03:28] were you able to capture the reason why it oomed? [03:28] sarnold, o/ [03:28] evening Rockwood :) [03:28] h r u? [03:29] I don't see how I could not have 200gb of contiguous memory [03:29] 'ls' not showing folder in ubuntu? sarnold [03:30] pretty good, finally getting around to starting some new work :) [03:30] new work? [03:30] I'm going to run memtest [03:31] This should take about 3 weeks [03:31] parrotlover: yeah, I do a large amount of source code reviews; I'd been working on the previous one (libheif) for like a month, a little bit here and there, and finally finished it up; and today, starting in on gamemode [03:31] lol [03:31] yeah, have fun with that one.. [03:31] lol yeah [03:31] I can't believe this crap [03:32] sarnold, in what language? [03:32] Rockwood: this is mostly C [03:32] I do game development too [03:32] what kind of game you making? [03:32] okay, yep memory error [03:32] me too working on small game [03:32] nice [03:32] I am doing mine in python [03:33] parrotlover: wait did you trip over something in memtest *already*?? [03:33] i am working 2g based [03:33] sarnold, yes [03:33] 2d [03:33] I got an error already. so much for ECC RAM [03:33] I am doing a text based game [03:33] mmorpg [03:33] parrotlover: cripes [03:33] parrotlover, me too [03:33] nice [03:33] parrotlover: bad powersupply? not correctly seated memory? how the heck did it boot to the point you could install git? [03:34] I dunno sarnold [03:34] I hit the memory error at like 35gb so must be in the first dimm [03:34] they are 64 gb dimms [03:34] fml [03:35] bloody expensive thing to replace [03:35] yeah [03:35] I mean, it's not like I'm replacing my GPUs [03:42] whelp, I can't do anything with this computer [03:42] I'll steal another server from work tomorrow to replace it [03:47] can you yank two or four dimms from the thing and be up for the night? === captainwuhan is now known as HackingGibson [05:00] sarnold, I am testing it with one dimm at a time [05:00] I am using google stress test tool but I took out my GPUs and one of the CPUs [05:01] I am not sure if it's CPU or RAM [05:01] either one is bad === coXZist1 is now known as coXZist === mort6 is now known as mort [06:39] hi [06:40] I see ubuntu versions used all of the alphabet [06:41] !codenames | hackinghorn [06:41] hackinghorn: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more [06:41] are there reasons to upgrade to non-LTS versions? they are quite short-lived [06:42] hackinghorn: its the users choice, to choose for LTS or non-LTS and having always latest [06:44] yeahh, that's understandable [06:45] hackinghorn: some non-lts releases also have features some of our users want/need so its the personal choice [06:45] or kernel versions that will support their newer hardware [06:46] ah that's right [06:46] but that can also be fixxed on lts with !HWE [06:46] nicee [06:46] !hwe [06:46] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [08:00] Hi, trying to install wine64 and it gives me an error installing libc6_2.30-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb [08:00] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.30-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb (--unpack): unable to install new version of '/lib/ld-linux.so.2': No such file or directory [08:00] Any tip on what it might be? [08:31] I've tried it all now [08:31] purge, autoremove, --force-overwrite [08:31] nothing lets me do any apt install again [08:41] http://paste.debian.net/1133684/ [08:50] So I've applied this solution a few days ago, to fix my laptop not suspending when booted to Ubuntu. [08:50] My laptop still won't suspend. [08:51] https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [08:51] Sometimes, when I leave my laptop alone for a long time, the screen turns on by itself and I see the lock screen with a notification about power. [08:52] But I can't actually get to the content of the notification. If I unlock from the lock screen, I don't see the notification item in the notification area. [09:00] my /proc/cmdline looks like this now: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.3.0-40-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2018" quiet splash vt.handoff=1 [09:00] "Windows 2018" is listed in the output of `strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' | sort` [09:04] This is Ubuntu Desktop 18.04 64-bit with all of the latest patches. [09:04] and HWE [09:07] k_sze: some machines just won't suspend/resume properly, blame poorly written firmware that relies on windows drivers [09:09] I'm gonna try fwts [09:09] make sure you have the latest bios [09:09] Hi all, in manual partition, how can I create the EFI partition? I see nothing related to this in "Use as:" menu [09:10] ducasse, I have the lates. [09:13] Hello there! Ubuntu Xenial: notify-send by me via terminal sometimes chokes on showing notifications. I feel that this happens for all applications (e.g. evolution); however e.g. volume up/down renders normally. Apart from `apt-get install --reinstall` (which solves the issue temporarily), what are my debugging options? I cannot find the service to [09:13] run `systemctl status` (`systemctl status | grep notify` shows only processes) [09:20] Hello! I wonder if there's a better xorg video driver for raspberry pi 4 (64bit arm) than xserver-xorg-video-fbdev) [09:21] qzio: try #ubuntu-arm [09:21] ducasse: thanks! [09:53] Hi. Since upgrading to 20.04 focal, KDE's ALT-F2 "run command" global shortcut doesn't work anymore; is this a known issue? (Others, like ctrl-alt-T starting a terminal, still work fine.) [09:53] bigfoot-: #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 support plz [09:54] ok, thanks. [09:56] that said, maybe RikMills know if things changed recently? ^ [09:58] It's still in the settings and looks like it "should work" [10:48] I'm having trouble navigating the information about drive/directory encryption options on ubuntu 19.10 [10:48] It seems that ecrypt was used until recently, but it's now deprecated? [10:48] And I'm not sure whether fscrypt is the now-recommended thing to use. [10:49] Is there any up to date information out there? Or will the situation change for 20.04? [10:49] steveire: one of the volunteers recently renewed the wiki: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 [10:50] lotuspsychje: That seems to be a more-complex alternative to fscript AFAICT [10:51] Using LUKS/LVM, and requires the user to win a race-condition during installation === mateen1 is now known as mateen [10:53] Also, "more recent Ubuntu releases default to version 2 ("luks2"). GRUB only supports version 1" -- not very confidence inspiring to have those caveats in the guide. [10:54] ecryptfs still works on 19.10 [10:54] IIRC it's not an option in the installer, but you can set it up later [10:54] eyy [10:54] SASL works [10:54] heya guys [10:54] i was wondering if i could get some help with chromium/chrome [10:55] anything thats based on that engine is locking up my pc [10:55] i have looked into it a fair bit, seems its to do with gpu rendering [10:55] but i cant seem to get it working right still [10:56] for example [10:56] i have 12 chroium tabs and my brackets editor open. then i suddenly get a huge 100% cpu spike [10:58] RougeRR: GPU drivers install properly and checking out just fine? [10:59] is the CPU usage in user or system? [10:59] ^^ also a very good question [10:59] is anything else happening at the time (e.g. massive swapin/swapout)? [10:59] mgedmin, im just checking it from the monitor applet [10:59] can you run vmstat 1 in a terminal? [10:59] its using high ram [10:59] hang on will get these for you n dpaste [10:59] mgedmin: It was removed from main because it's buggy and undermaintained. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1756840 - again, not confidence inspiring. [10:59] Launchpad bug 1756840 in ecryptfs-utils (Ubuntu) "Buggy, under-maintained, not fit for main anymore; alternatives exist" [Undecided,Fix released] [11:00] yeah, ouch [11:00] mouses, [11:00] lshw [11:00] https://dpaste.org/wgbo [11:03] RougeRR: On board video, you're going to see CPU and memory use from the main system when using that to render [11:03] sounds totally normal to me [11:03] mouses, its really locking up though [11:03] i know there will be some slow down [11:04] RougeRR: How much total RAM does the system have? Swap enabled and configured? Are you hitting memory cap? [11:04] its also having issues with video playing [11:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fscrypt/+bug/1768340 seems to show that fscrypt might also be buggy, but possibly usable. [11:04] Launchpad bug 1768340 in fscrypt (Ubuntu) "fscrypt does not work for home directory encryption" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:04] will really lag with one youtube video at 720p [11:04] let me trey that [11:04] im piping vmstat into a log file [11:04] Hi! I'm trying to add a printer on Ubuntu 19.10. Using the built in printer menu adds the device but it doesn't print. Installed 'hplip hplip-gui' but it gets stuck on "driver plug-in" window. Any other methods to be able to use my printer? thanks! [11:05] RougeRR: What kind of CPU? How much RAM? 720p @ 60fps or 30? [11:05] 720p 30fps [11:05] i7 5600u, 8GB ram [11:05] its a thinkpad z250 [11:05] x250 [11:05] that should be PLENTY [11:05] i agree yeah [11:05] like i know its not THAT beefy [11:05] but it shouldnt struggle this much [11:05] hmmmm, that is weird behavior for sure. Perhaps you overrode a dev flag in chrome and disabled hardware rendering? [11:05] mouses, yeah that is the sort of thing im expecting to be [11:06] i had this issue since install [11:06] RougeRR: nah not at all, my chromebook running a ubuntu fork is like 1.6 dual core celery with 2gb of RAM and handles 720@30FPS with no issues [11:06] swapped from chrome to chromium [11:06] RougeRR: got a live boot media handy? can you reproduce the issue in a live session? [11:06] I had a thinkpad x220 with 8 GB of RAM and tried disabling the swap partition for a while -> this led to chrome eating up all my RAM and making the entire OS freeze after a few hours [11:07] do you have a swap partition (or file)? [11:07] mouses, so in chromium im hitting 90% cpu with 1 video at 1080p/60 [11:07] RougeRR: sounds to me like it's software rendering [11:07] it is better in chromium than chrome [11:07] RougeRR: Reset all chrome(ium) options to default? [11:08] mouses, guna look [11:08] also [11:08] here is vmstat [11:08] https://dpaste.org/3FBi [11:08] hard to read :/ [11:09] hp-setup gets stuck on "Checking for network connection... Downloading plug-in from: " [11:10] https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/how-to-enable-hardware-accelerated.html [11:10] vmstat shows 80% user 9% system 10% idle in the middle of that log [11:10] no swapping, but a swap partition exists; almost no disk i/o [11:10] mgedmin, yeah i expect thats when i started the video playing [11:10] im just checking this article [11:11] intel graphics [11:11] hnmmmm [11:11] https://dpaste.org/ssqR [11:11] looks like using software [11:12] i feel like ive tried with n without n had same issues [11:12] is i965-va-driver installed? (I think it should be installed automatically) [11:12] configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 [11:12] yeah [11:13] "The patch to add VA-API support to Chromium on Linux, titled "Enable VAVDA, VAVEA and VAJDA on linux with VAAPI only" was was initially submitted to Chromium more than a year ago, but it has yet to be merged." [11:13] should i be having to add this? [11:13] What's odd to me - you're getting the same behavior in Chrome, which by default does a very nice job using hardware acceleration if available [11:14] Edit (Dec 20, 2019): Te Chromium Beta PPA has builds behind the Ubuntu version of Chromium (the Ubuntu version is newer), so adding this PPA right now and installing Chromium won't install the PPA version, but the Ubuntu version. For now, use the Development PPA. [11:14] ive just reset chromium all flags [11:14] on my machine chrome://gpu/ says Accelerated video decode is unavailable on Linux and links to: crbug.com/137247 [11:14] same issue [11:14] what version chromium [11:14] ill check mine [11:14] whatever's in the default chromium snap channel [11:15] 80.0.3987.87 [11:15] is mine [11:15] 80.0.3987.122 [11:15] slightly newer minor version [11:15] (you should upgrade, there's an exploitable bug in all versions before the 122 build) [11:15] ill try it [11:16] anyway my _current_ laptop is an x390 thinkpad with newer intel video, and I've never played serious videos (cat gifs don't count right) in the browser itself, so I dunno what the cpu usage would be [11:16] mgedmin, ah do you put them through to VLC? [11:16] I tend to run mpv https://... to play videos [11:16] or similar [11:16] yeah [11:16] im using this for dev work mostly [11:20] trying install with snap [11:20] mgedmin, how you finding x390? [11:20] other than the soldered ram, it looks pretty awesome [11:25] ugh [11:25] so upgraded [11:25] still high cpu [11:25] investigating further [11:25] 80.0.3987.132 [11:25] mgedmin, any chance you could dpaste you chrome://gpu ? [11:28] RougeRR: https://dpaste.org/EyON [11:28] I like the x390 a lot; everything works except for the fingerprint reader [11:29] I'm not entirely happy with the keyboard layout changes, but it's not _too_ bad, and possible to get used to [11:29] and I think we'd better continue this thread in #ubuntu-offtopic [11:29] btw I lied when I said I don't play videos in chrome [11:30] I'm playing 1080p youtube videos (from handmadehero.org) at 2x speed and not noticing excessive cpu usage [11:30] same situation with my older x220, except the videos then were 720p (smaller screen) [11:33] the browser I use is ubuntu-packaged chromium, which in 19.10 is a thin empty .deb package that snap installs chromium [11:50] Howdy all [11:58] mgedmin, sorry mate. phone rang [11:59] meggie, oh i want aware of new layout changes vs x250 era [11:59] im on 18.04 [12:20] RougeRR: In that paste, I see hardware accel disabled. Is this Chromium or Chrome? If chromium, is there a flag you need to set? Does this work in chrome? [13:13] i wanna change root to user for my project folder [13:13] mouses, [13:13] ive tried everything in chromium [13:14] its allowing it to be enabled but wont work [13:14] i think its libva driver [13:14] https://dpaste.org/8DjP [13:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1813131 [13:16] Launchpad bug 1813131 in libva (Ubuntu Bionic) "i965_drv_video.so doesn't load any more if a Wayland server is present [failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface]" [Undecided,Confirmed] === rdv is now known as mrinfinity [13:27] okay im stuck [13:27] how do i fix this> [13:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1813131 [13:27] Launchpad bug 1813131 in libva (Ubuntu Bionic) "i965_drv_video.so doesn't load any more if a Wayland server is present [failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface]" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:27] its the exact bug im having [13:27] RougeRR, on chromium snap or apt version? [13:28] its not chromium thats the issues [13:28] its the intel driver [13:28] i want to implement the fix here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1813131 [13:28] Launchpad bug 1813131 in libva (Ubuntu Bionic) "i965_drv_video.so doesn't load any more if a Wayland server is present [failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface]" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:29] https://dpaste.org/J2A3 [13:29] same bug [13:35] your VA-API version 1.1.0 vs 1.3.0 bugreport [13:38] driver i965-va-driver 2.2.0-0ubuntu1 does not match bionic, and current the driver is at 2.3.0 ... [13:38] yes [13:38] i assume you are on bionic 18.04.4? [13:39] Description: Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS [13:42] my best guess: file a fresh bugreport, point to this 19.04 EOL version [13:44] should i not just compile this from source? [13:44] this is a standard LTS [13:44] shouldnt really be having to do this i would have thought? [13:50] hello [13:50] so just curious [13:51] why is the default package such an out of date one? [13:51] i dont recall changing it [13:52] LTS gives stable packages, not the latest. [13:52] upgrade to Focal 19.109 if you want more up2date versions [13:53] When's the next LTS due? [13:53] but surely an issue with vaapi is a pretty big deal for intel [13:53] no? [13:53] especially one that has been reported [13:54] jink 20.04 [13:54] 6 weeks +- [13:54] oerheks: Current 20.04 is development? do-release-upgrade -c -d tells me 20.04 is out. :D [13:54] RougeRR, you pointed to an ancient 19.04 bugreport, you have different driver versions too.,. [13:55] oerheks, [13:55] its the same issue [13:55] jink -d development is out, yes, but not stable release. [13:55] oerheks: Thanks. ;) [13:55] https://dpaste.org/J2A3 [13:56] RougeRR, then file a proper bugreport, else nothing happens.. [13:56] https://github.com/intel/intel-vaapi-driver/issues/419 === msalvatore_ is now known as msalvatore [13:57] there are bugreports it seems [14:05] so what needs to happen is the updated vaapi driver needs to be added as a package in ubuntu sources? [14:05] there are dozens of bug reports on this [14:05] Anyone know how the heck to stop virtual ox from starting on boot? [14:05] its always good practice to keep an eye on the bug reports and update them [14:05] i find just 1 bugreport, 1813131 .. and invalid with your driver version [14:06] btw, do you have HWE enabled? [14:06] !hwe [14:06] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [14:06] if nothing is happening, just query "any progress on this?" [14:07] Acheron, ia asked him to file a fresh bugreport, pointin g to this one.. [14:08] yes. complaining in a chat room never got anything done [14:08] yeah let me create an account.... [14:17] echo "snap" >> ~/.hidden [14:19] can anyone give me some direction as to how to stop virtualbox from autostarting on boot? Kubuntu 19.10... [14:19] rebooted, and stil have /usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxSVC --auto-shutdown and /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxwebsrv running on boot [14:20] sudo systemctl disable vboxweb-service [14:20] sudo systemctl enable vboxweb-service # to make it autostart again [14:21] systemctl status vboxweb-service show it cant be found [14:22] Failed to disable unit: Unit file vboxweb-service.service does not exist. [14:22] sudo systemctl disable vboxwebsrv.service .. i am looking for the right name of the service [14:23] ( not having vbox installed here) [14:24] service --status-all command will list all services on your Ubuntu [14:24] very weird [14:24] im looking at the list of services via "systemctl" [14:24] and it shows [14:24] vboxweb.service loaded active running VirtualBox Web Service [14:25] there you ho [14:25] * go [14:25] time to reboot and see if it works :) [14:28] I made that way harder than it needed to be :) [14:29] thanks oerheks [14:30] ecov, have fun! [14:31] Hello. I have a bit philosophical question, I often see that ppl, when defining their functions, pay attention to the number of possible args, and do things like e.g. this: `function g () { grep --color=always "$1" "$2" | grep -v .svn; }` - but... isn't it easier to just do `function g () { grep --color=always "$@" | grep -v .svn; }` and stop worrying about what `grep` might expect? [14:31] i.e. just put $@, and done? [14:31] what can go wrong? [14:39] oerheks, [14:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1813131 [14:39] Launchpad bug 1813131 in libva (Ubuntu Bionic) "i965_drv_video.so doesn't load any more if a Wayland server is present [failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface]" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver/+bug/1866356 [14:39] Launchpad bug 1866356 in intel-vaapi-driver (Ubuntu) "libva fails to load [Ubuntu18.04.4 LTS ] - error: failed to resolve wl_drm_interface(): /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_mesa.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_drm_interface libva error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so init failed libva info: va_openDriver() returns -1 vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit" [Undecided,New] [14:41] oh, see, hardware acceleration not working in chromium .. install the snap package? [14:43] sudo snap install --channel=candidate/vaapi chromium [14:44] next time, if i ask about chromum, don; t answer with: its not chromium thats the issues [14:44] :-( [14:44] oh ive got the very latest dev release [14:44] i read that the snap backage no longer has support [14:45] it did for a while [14:45] https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/01/ubuntu-testing-chromium-snap-with-vaapi.html [14:46] might be here [14:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1816497 [14:46] Launchpad bug 1816497 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] vaapi chromium no video hardware decoding" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:47] but yeah, im pretty sure i tried using snap/vaapi [14:56] hi guys, i am currently running manjaro, but i am experiencing poor sound quality and cant get to fix it. will switching to ubuntu give me better sound quality ? maybe in ubuntu there are better drivers for my laptop ? [14:56] !hardware | devid [14:56] devid: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [14:56] devid, have you tried a live boot session? [14:57] how do I view certs from arora? [14:57] donofrio, a web search could probably help you [14:57] Acheron no, so you mean just try the sound using the usb ? [14:58] devid, yes, that is what i meant [14:58] Acheron ok i will try then thank you [14:59] Acheron so, it does not make a difference in sound if live boot session or installed in the pc ? [14:59] only difference would be the updates that are installed on a hard drive [15:00] you can try 18.04 LTS or 19.10 [15:00] Acheron, so you're invalidating technology that has worked and helped people for three decades now? [15:00] LTS give daily builds too.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/ [15:03] Acheron, why not cuss in the main group for all to see? [15:03] hi folks [15:04] donofrio: You know that is off topic, please stop [15:05] arora is a browser in the standard repo's and no #arora exists on freenode so that is why I ask here [15:05] Why does Ubuntu server 18.04.4 latest updates as of yesterday, have a defective copy of git in the repos? [15:05] I had to install git from source which I had to fetch with http because git wasn't working [15:05] I have a profile for my gnome terminal that opens to the size I want and such. [15:06] However, the terminal doesn't 'open' that way, and I also move it to where I want it. [15:06] donofrio: And you know that it's not a common browser that others will have installed. There was nothing out of line to encourage you to search the web for your answer. I'm certain you are more than capable of doing it. Volunteers here are only as smart as their web searching skills. [15:06] Is there a way for the terminal to open the same size and the same place as I want? [15:06] parrotlover, you might notify the package owner about that issue [15:06] I looked at its gnome web page, but nothing is there. [15:06] pragmaticenigma, what got me is he told me to "f*ck myself" in a pm how is that helping when I ask a simple question? [15:07] and we can move to the offtopic or dscuss channel if it helps [15:07] Acheron, how do I find the package maintainer? [15:07] parrotlover: which issue? Got a bug link? [15:07]