[03:44] <jphilips> knome: on the help page, can you change the askubuntu link to https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/xubuntu
[04:13] <jphilips> running the daily ISO from a few days back and got a crash in libxfce4panel, tried to report and it says i got obsolete packages for gcc-10-base, etc. :D
[04:15] <JackFrost> \o/
[05:43] <jphilips> knome: also if you can change the 'Desktop Environments' link to https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329&pp=20&prefixid=xubuntu&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=-1
[05:44] <jphilips> and remove ' – use Xfce or Xubuntu as the tag to help categorize your request'
[05:44] <jphilips> xfce tag stopped being used in 2016
[05:44] <jphilips> please also remove 'You can also add your support question in Launchpad Answers. '
[06:57] <knome> jphilips, why remove launchpad answers?
[06:58] <knome> otherwise suggestions are good and page is updated (and gutenbergized fwiw)
[07:00] <jphilips> this still there ' – use Xfce or Xubuntu as the tag to help categorize your request'
[07:00] <knome> right...
[07:00] <knome> missed that then
[07:01] <knome> done
[07:03] <jphilips> about launchpad answers, it isnt xubuntu specific, but if you feel it should still be there, please move the sentence after the askubuntu sentence
[07:03] <jphilips> maybe also add a link for easy access to the offtopic channel - https://webchat.freenode.net/#xubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <jphilips> does xubuntu come with any event sounds by default or do i have to install some even after checking the boxes in the appearance dialog
[10:19] <brainwash> jphilips: I think the "default" theme is available by... default 
[10:19] <brainwash> sound theme
[10:24] <brainwash> sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-2ubuntu1
[10:24] <jphilips> enabling sound effects on 19.10 and restarting does nothing
[10:25] <brainwash> you did not read the check box tooltip, did you?
[10:25] <jphilips> was looking through this guide - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1156774/how-to-enable-event-sounds-on-xubuntu
[10:25] <brainwash> I've commented on some launchpad report about this
[10:26] <jphilips> installing canberra, i did that and still no luck
[10:27] <brainwash> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1321445/comments/20
[10:28] <jphilips> login and logout sound aint working either
[10:31] <brainwash> the steps mentioned in my comment worked for me
[10:31] <brainwash> well, back then
[10:31] <brainwash> it's not too long ago though
[10:32] <jphilips> saw your comment and the patch removed the sounds for window sounds
[10:35] <brainwash> and the info in the next comment?
[10:35] <brainwash> how do you test sounds?
[10:39] <jphilips> will test it and see
[10:39] <jphilips> this shouldnt be made so difficult for users
[10:39] <brainwash> [Sound Theme]
[10:39] <brainwash> Name=Default
[10:40] <brainwash> maybe it has to be a capital D
[10:40] <brainwash> that would be pretty odd though
[11:12] <jphilips> not sure where the above relates to
[11:17] <brainwash> jphilips: the xfconf-query command
[11:18] <jphilips> okay tried default, Default, and freedesktop and still no work
[11:18] <jphilips> did everything in the comment 21
[11:18] <brainwash> maybe muted in pavucontrol?
[11:18] <brainwash> and again, how do you test?
[11:19] <jphilips> no not muted
[11:19] <jphilips> i log out and log back in
[11:19] <brainwash> startup sound?
[11:19] <jphilips> yes
[11:19] <brainwash> is Xfce supposed to play that one?
[11:19] <jphilips> i installed the gnome-session-canberra package
[11:20] <jphilips> and session & startup has luanch gnome services on startup checked
[11:21] <brainwash> don't think that this helps
[11:21] <brainwash> can't you test something different? maybe even create those window event sounds and test them
[11:25] <jphilips> okay will try those
[11:37] <jphilips> download the .oga's from the git commit and put it in and still no working
[11:59] <brainwash> jphilips: I will test it myself then
[11:59] <jphilips> finally got it working. had to manually add the entry into session & startup and create an xfce4-session like steps 8 and 9 suggest
[11:59] <jphilips> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1156774/how-to-enable-event-sounds-on-xubuntu
[12:01] <brainwash> you still talking about login sound?
[12:02] <jphilips> yes login and logout. the window sound effects never materialized
[12:03] <brainwash> yikes
[12:03] <brainwash> you can obviously add autostart launchers to do that job
[12:03] <jphilips> i've noticed different times that xiccd goes haywire and takes up an entire cpu core. just now there were 4 of those processes going eating up 100% of my cpu
[12:03] <brainwash> hint: autostart launcher can be triggered on logout too
[12:04] <jphilips> was thinking to do that, but just followed the guide :D
[12:04] <brainwash> however... no even cares about login/logout sounds?!
[12:05] <brainwash> I can understand that having a sound effect when an error dialog pops up can be useful
[12:05] <brainwash> or a bell sound for notifications
[12:07] <brainwash> so, I get no event sounds here also
[12:07] <brainwash> I wonder if this is a gtk2 vs gtk3 thing
[18:30] <brainwash> jphilips: sounds do work. I noticed the error sound when an error dialog popped up.
[18:30] <brainwash> however, only the window-unmaximized one of all window events works
[18:30] <jphilips> brainwash: wish i was so lucky. if you have a new set up steps to try, i'd be glad to test them
[18:31] <brainwash> no trash sound either
[18:31] <brainwash> you got window-unmaximized.oga?
[18:32] <brainwash> I simply created a symlink to bell.org
[18:32] <brainwash> ehm.. bell.oga
[18:35] <brainwash> note that you have to have "input feedback sounds" enabled
[18:35] <brainwash> in case you disabled those due to testing
[18:35] <brainwash> the checkbox below the "event sounds" one
[19:09] <jphilips> brainwash: yes both checkboxes were always enabled
[19:10] <jphilips> windows-unmaximized.oga is in the folder
[19:10] <jphilips> also have bell.oga
[20:21] <jphilips> knome: should we consider having the irc links go to kiwiirc.com for a better looking irc ui
[20:52] <brainwash> jphilips: if you want to waste time on that issue, you could check if you can get it to work in xubuntu 18.04
[20:54] <jphilips> brainwash: not planning to spend any more time on it. i'll leave it to the devs to try and fix
[20:55] <brainwash> so, to no one