[00:00] +1 | user392 [00:01] !ubuntu+_1 | user392 [00:01] Hm [00:01] !ubuntu+_1 [00:02] !ubuntu+1 | user392 [00:02] user392: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [00:02] oh, I thought that was a trigger [00:02] thanks [00:03] user392: Took me long enough :( .. could have passed the channel directly faster :( [00:07] No problem, I got the way now. Thank you again, Bashing-om. [00:07] Can Chromebooks usually run Ubuntu? [00:10] Sven_vB: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-chromebook [00:11] ok better question: is their hardware usually supported easily? [00:13] nope [00:14] Sven_vB, If you're looking for a new machine to run Ubuntu... buy a regular laptop. You can't actually run Ubuntu on Chromebooks without special middleware software and emulation running. [00:14] pragmaticenigma, thanks! [00:22] I'm considering a Medion Akoya E2293 (MD61118), and I found this systemd user[1] having tested something, so would you think it's safe to assume Ubuntu runs on that? [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13480 [00:22] (the big headline in OP has another model, the paragraph before says E2293.) [00:30] Sven_vB, This is a support channel. If you are experiencing issues running official flavors of Ubuntu or the software distributed through official Ubuntu repos, this is the place to ask questions and get help. For system recommendations or discussions, please use #ubuntu-offtopic [00:30] oh ok [00:32] Hello, I am having some issues getting my USB sound card working properly. I get audio in my headphones, but it doesn't detect any sort of microphone input [00:32] I've tried the basic stuff like playing around with pavucontrol [00:33] as well as trying a reboot and re-install [00:33] also re-plugging [00:33] The sound card is this: https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Amp-Sound-Card-HX-USCCAMSS-BK/dp/B07GW1SHSN [00:34] any chance at some help? [00:35] Please? [00:35] !patience | briggse [00:35] briggse: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [00:36] pragmaticenigma: I didn't mean to sound needy there, I just realized I hadn't said please. [00:38] :) [00:38] briggse: anything in dmesg? [00:38] if you run pavucontrol from the command line do you see any errors messages on the terminal? [00:38] sarnold: Thanks for attempting to give me a hand! [00:38] No errors in pavucontrol [00:39] and i'm looking through dmesg now [00:39] i'm a bit noob :( [00:39] heh and there's LOTS of noise in there [00:41] sarnold https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JzBVrTFzQT/ [00:41] If you want to take a look [00:41] I'm not even sure what i'm looking for [00:43] haha love it duckykeyboard :) [00:43] Yeah, great keyboard [00:43] I just noticed it was in that list too lol [00:43] I was also going to just ask about the `[ 5.195615] usb 3-12.3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)` lines above it [00:43] think that could be related? [00:47] I've had nothing but frustration with audio on Ubuntu. Seriously constant headaches.. [00:48] sarnold [00:48] [ 1940.872323] usb 3-3: new full-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd[ 1941.036616] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=16d8, bcdDevice=41.12[ 1941.036617] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3[ 1941.036618] usb 3-3: Product: HyperX Amp[ 1941.036619] usb 3-3: Manufacturer: Kingston[ 1941.036619] [00:48] usb 3-3: SerialNumber: 000000000001[ 1941.053238] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.058235] usb 3-3: 6:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 6)[ 1941.059722] input: Kingston HyperX Amp Consumer Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-3/3-3:1.5/0003:0951:16D8.000D/input/input33[ 1941.116440] [00:48] hid-generic 0003:0951:16D8.000D: input,hidraw6: USB HID v1.11 Device [Kingston HyperX Amp] on usb-0000:00:14.0-3/input5[ 1941.145530] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.155624] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.161992] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id [00:48] 12)[ 1941.167007] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.172038] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.176981] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.182107] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.187100] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot [00:48] get min/max values for control 2 (id 12)[ 1941.192222] usb 3-3: 12:0: cannot get min/max values for control 2 (id 12) [00:48] shit [00:50] sarnold I got muted or something on accident: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nHgJtPjK6T/ Here's the paste I meant to paste [00:50] This happens when I unplug and re-plug the USB card [00:50] briggse, please mind the choice of words. Cussing is frowned upon here. Also, always use paste, as the bots will mute you if they think you're spamming the channel [00:51] briggse: there's a LOT of volume control setup for specific channels after that error message is printed [00:51] pragmaticenigma Of course, my bad. I meant to use paste, but had the wrong one on my clipboard :( I'm not trying to be bad [00:52] briggse: funny thing, the function that prints that error message returns a success or failure return value but the callers *never* do anything with it. [00:53] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/sound/usb/mixer.c#L1178 [00:54] sarnold Interesting.. I wish I 100% knew what this all meant, but I'm kinda following. My C isn't quite up to this level. [00:54] Is this something I can workaround? Or is the hardware just not compatible? [00:55] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.6-rc4/source/sound/usb/mixer.c#L1308 and https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.6-rc4/source/sound/usb/mixer.c#L1675 -- two direct calls with no error handling, and another call through a macro https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.6-rc4/source/sound/usb/mixer.c#L2045 [00:56] briggse: I think your best bet might be to try a 'fresh' upstream linux kernel, and if it's still busted there, email the folks here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6VZg87rzPj/ [00:57] Seems fragile to not be handling that properly. sarnold: would you reccomend Ukuu to update the kernal? [00:59] briggse: I've never tried ukuu before.. [01:00] briggse: I'd probably pick packages from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.5.8/ or https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.6-rc4/ [01:00] briggse: I won't recommend ukuu [01:01] Alright, guess I'm going to have to dive into a rabbit hole =L . Unless you guys have a good suggestion on directions or another tool [01:04] briggse: nothing else from me :( good luck [01:06] I have a feeling this isn't going to work :( I've had troubles with audio for a long time. Audio out works fine, but microphones never do. And it's hard to use Linux as a development platform if I can't communicate with team members. I really hate Mac's window management, but it feels like i'm doomed to it [01:08] yeah audio on linux has only ever worked tolerable for a handful of mainstream devices [01:08] anything slightly off the beaten path and things get hairy quick [01:10] sarnold: Do you have any idea why that is? [01:11] in this case it's a USB device that is built to a price point. These devices often share busses inside to lower the cost to manufacture. Such sharing is hard to develop for because you have to know how to "switch" between the modes to get the components to all function [01:12] briggse: writing drivers for audio devices doesn't sound like fun; the hardware seems touchy, vendors hate documenting things, and the handful of people who write drivers usually want to get sound from their computers.. [01:13] pragmaticenigma: So I don't understand why it works fine in Mac OS and Windows. Do they just have people writing drivers for these devices all day? [01:15] The manufacturer wrote the driver... they choose the platforms they wish to support [01:15] the vendors pay people to write drivers [01:15] I see [01:15] and since OS X market share is like twice the size of the linux desktop market share, and preferred by many "content creators", I'm not surprised they'd pay money to support it [01:15] Welp, *sounds* like I'm up against a wall. [01:15] rofl [01:15] and windows is like ten or twenty times that size, so ... [01:17] drivers in linux are often reversed engineered by enthusiasts and hobbiest. most devices gain support when someone in the community purchases a device, finds there is no support for it, and begins to write their own and contributes it [01:17] Yeah, I get that for sure. Just wasn't sure how that all worked. I'm kinda surprised it's not a common output interface that is universal. [01:17] pragmaticenigma: And this is why I"m studying up on C [01:17] Some manufacturers are nice and offer schematics and part numbers [01:17] others aren't [01:18] Sounds like a lot of reverse engineering [01:18] Sometimes you have something that is well documented, but then is implemented in some strange way (AC-97 anyone?) which makes supporting the device very difficult [01:18] I thought usb ought to be better than the bad old days of ISA sound cards :) [01:19] but maybe there's lots of ways to do USB audio poorly [01:19] USB is worse in a lot of ways. ISA the issue was more with the implementation of the spec and the fact you needed to set IRQs to get everyone to play nice [01:20] Worth a read: https://hackaday.com/2017/11/25/fixing-linux-audio-one-chipset-at-a-time/ [01:22] Well, thanks a lot guys. I do appreciate the input and output (heh). I wound up finding an adapter that allows me to split the mic and input and just plug it directly into the back of the computer. This seems to be working. [01:22] I'll contribute when I can, someday [01:30] briggse: heh, yeah, the intel chipset on the mobo ought to be pretty well supported, there's millions of those things, everyone's got one.. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest82037 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === nt0_ is now known as nt0 [05:15] Can someone point me in the right direction as I'm not getting great results from google -- For 18.04 server, I'd like to find out how to replace the default tty1 shell with a custom shell script -- so when the system boots up, instead a of login to the shell, they're dropped into a shell script. I've tried making a custom@tty1.service file with my script in the etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants directory but this [05:15] isn't starting the script on boot -- instead it just hangs, I've also ran systemctl disable getty@tty1.service [05:17] "dropped into a shell script"? [05:17] nt0: yes -- it runs my custom.sh script instead of giving the user the option to login to a terminal [05:18] nt0: my idea being the user can interacted with a limited custom interface versus needing to login [05:18] which account runs the script? [05:19] more precise: which user runs the script? [05:20] nt0: thats a good question because i don't actually set a user in the tty1.service file, i assume its the root user [05:20] aye [05:21] nt0: this is my current service file https://pastebin.com/6whDTwtu [05:21] and that's run by systemd? [05:21] nt0: my understanding is that it *should* be [05:22] (i know nothing about systemd, i love ubuntu but hate systemd and use distros with alternatives on my home systems) [05:22] nt0: that, you and I agree on =) [05:22] on that point--it [05:22] err [05:23] it's so painful to see such great leaps in usability (personal-wise) in ubuntu while at the same time canonical falls prey to embrace-extinguish [05:24] ubuntu is becoming better than windows in many, many ways now [05:24] so much progress! [05:24] i'll agree with that too =) [05:25] at the same time: i'm worried that canonical has been bought out. i have no evidence or argument. just hunch [05:25] ibm bought redhat recently no? [05:25] M$ is on the linux foundation [05:25] the board thereof* [05:25] microsoft bought github -- i wouldn't be suprised if they made a play to buy canonical [05:26] http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/index.html [05:26] here's an ancient index of internal MS documents with commentary by ESR [05:27] it's amazing how accurate many of the predictions were considering that these leaks started in 1998 [05:27] ooof back in 98 i think i was using slackware [05:27] anywho i don't mean to steer away from your script [05:27] lets keep it ontopic plz [05:27] >inb4 [05:27] then i moved to debian to get away from compiling everything by source =) [05:28] yes sorry -- little departure [05:28] JC_SoCal: i'm not a systemP expert but i don't see anything in that script that has a bit to do with user auth [05:29] indeed -- my understand (this is being ported from debian) is that there is no need for auth [05:29] you've got custom1.sh but this is being executed by ??? [05:30] so custom1.sh is being executed by custom@tty1.service [05:30] i don't know systemP but i can't believe that it's as easy as spoofing a file [05:30] which is what i put in pastebin -- that gets called by the system [05:30] err... that getting a shell might be as easy as spoofing a file [05:30] well i can confirm its that easy on debian =) [05:31] nt0 i would have said the same thing about getting root via single user mode -- i don't chalk much security to devices that one has physical access to [05:32] no worries though -- i'll keep digging, just figured it might make sense to check in here before i continue banging my head [05:33] ... funny enough i just hit this in google -- may have some better answers [05:33] https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/Run_software_on_tty1_console_instead_of_login_getty.html [05:34] ooof -- i think this is what i was missing: mkdir /etc/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/ [05:34] JC_SoCal: maybe a typo by the author, but he prefixed with a "-" [05:35] in the ExecStart= field [05:35] doesn't make sense to me, but it's a discrepancy [05:35] good catch ! [05:35] 2 steps forward, 1 step back =) [05:37] i have to ask: what's the use case? feel free to decline answering [05:39] no problem -- and great question [05:39] hey all.. new to Ubuntu. i tried installing on my laptop and works fine but where can I get the newest Intel HD520 drivers? [05:39] ever see the old black t-shirt that said "Go Away or I will Replace you With a Very Small Shell Script"? [05:40] Its essentially that -- offering limited sys admin functionality via a simple shell script interface [05:41] change an ip address for example -- simple front end interface, hope that makes sense [05:44] nt0: fyi, that works now (lol don't forget to +x the shell script) but it works -- thanks for talking it through with me =) [05:48] JC_SoCal: was it the permissions? [05:48] or the "-"? [05:48] guessing former [05:48] well - really it was me trying to port the way debian used systemd to ubuntu -- i was doing it wrong, very wrong, then it also didn't help i forgot to +x on my shell file [05:49] if you don't mind, may i ask your opinion of my use case? [05:49] sure, no good answer guarantee [05:51] it's hard to imagine that somebody with even the basic skills required to remotely login to a nix system would be so ignorant that they need a script to do most of the job [05:51] but businesses are crazy and so is everything else [05:53] nt0: indeed, sorry let me clarify a little more -- this replaces the local console -- not the ssh console -- so really its more of a in case of emergency situation where we no longer have remote access -- we can have a non-tech person at a remote site touch it without being scared and much easier to walk through [05:54] JC_SoCal: start your own business with this idea [05:55] else i will [05:55] even if it doesn't work well enough in all edge cases right now [05:55] well, i guess do some market research, this might show that it's not a thing in demand [05:56] it is in our business =) [05:56] like i mentioned, we're moving from a debian shop to ubuntu -- so this is just part of the port [05:56] used for control systems or something? [05:56] but thanks for the feed back -- i also have a business plan for a gourmet corn dog food truck if you're looking for investment oppritunities [05:57] or something [05:58] tech businesses have employees that don't need a walkthru startup for a restarted system [05:58] you're on to a new market methinks [05:58] i won't pry. just will wish you good luck [05:58] exactly our use case [05:58] thanks nt0 [05:59] JC_SoCal: question: you're business minded? no? [05:59] indeed [05:59] president of our company -- working on a friday at 11 pm [05:59] have you read ESR's halloween documents? [06:00] I actually have not, first I've seen of it [06:00] http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/index.html [06:00] yeah i've got it bookmarked [06:00] i was skimming it when you mentioned it [06:00] this isn't specific to your situation at all. has a lot to do with how software companies find revenue [06:01] from proprietary to FOSS and everything between [06:01] lots of business-speak in context wrt channels and so on [06:01] i appreciate that! [06:02] interesting as a historical artifact that is almost an oracle [06:27] Hello, I am trying to format my new external 2.5" ssd, but it is not being recognized in gparted or Disks. Looking for help on what to do from here. Thanks much! [06:41] plug it in, run dmesg, look to see if it's detected [07:06] Hi [08:26] Greetings humans. I have festival text to speech running on Ubuntu, but i'm wondering if there is something better ? [08:26] Or is that it ? [08:27] NeoFrontier: you can use apt-cache 'keyword' to find cool software on your ubuntu release [08:28] Yeah but how do I know that apt-cache is smart enough to evaluate software ? [08:28] But thanks :) [08:28] NeoFrontier: you can always ask in #ubuntu-discuss for experiences from other users if you want [08:29] In fact I think let me try that exact command [08:30] NeoFrontier: found a link for you, come join to #ubuntu-discuss if you want [10:22] Hey guys, I am trying to help a friend out.. they upgraded their 18.4LTS to 18.10 and now, the repos are not working. They need CURL installed but apt-get install curl isn't an option.... do you have any advice? This' a production box so I can't just upgrade it to 19.10 :/ [10:23] riply: 18.10 is end of life [10:23] riply: we strongly advise to upgrade to ubuntu releases before they go EOL [10:24] riply: production box and non-lts is also not very adviced [10:25] lotuspsychje I know haha... this' not my box - I was called in to try and help. [10:26] from what I know, the only option is to try and downgrade it to 18.04 [10:26] riply: downgrading on ubuntu is not possible [10:27] any tips then? [10:27] riply: backup and clean install a supported version from the topic [10:27] ye, I was afraid you'd say that haha.. looks like I'm installing 18.04 on Monday and migrating the LAMP [10:31] !eolupgrade | riply [10:31] riply: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [10:50] Hi. A little bit new to linux, still learning. What GUI tool do I use to create a multiboot usb stick? And what file system do I format it to? Looking to install various linux distros, and preferrably a win7 os too if that's technically possible. Any detailed support someone can give? Much appreciated... [10:51] there is a multiboot tool, https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ , never interested in using myself. [10:51] and win7 .. really? [10:52] not going to give advise on EOL windows .. [10:52] What you think I'm lying or joking? Yes, really. [10:53] For testing purposes. [10:53] well, that is the only tool i know, good luck with windows! [10:53] (not sure that is possible) [10:54] ok, so I should put windows on its own usb? [10:55] reask in ##windows perhaps? [10:57] Well im just asking, is there any way to stick a winOS on a linux bootstick? [10:57] i just answered. [10:59] still unclear. [10:59] this is not the right place to ask, we don't do windows [11:00] No this is the right place to ask, just you are not the right person to answer. Linux is the base im using. Ubuntu is the OS im using. [11:00] !ot [11:00] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [11:01] Im creating the bootstick with ubuntu, so how is this not the right place to ask, How to create a multiboot usb with multiple linux distros, plus a windows os on there too? [11:01] Definately ubuntu related. [11:01] answered that, multiboot, and ##windows is your place to be [11:01] it's not [11:01] good luck! [11:01] I'm not asking how do I create my bootstick within windows. [11:02] Ok, multiboot, thankyou. [11:02] But what filesystem do I format it to? [11:08] I already tried using the Multiboot tool before, but it didn't work. So I was wondering if there were other alternatives to Multiboot. But perhaps I formatted it incorrectly. >>What filetype do I format the multiboot stick to? Thanks. [11:09] see the url, no need to format, multiboot does that for you [11:10] ok thanks. [11:11] And just curious, if I wanted to create just a single boot usb stick... What's the best way to do that? [11:11] dd the image to the stick [11:12] dd? [11:12] 'man dd' [11:14] or use a tool like etcher or rufus [11:14] Etcher or Rufus, ok thanks. [11:15] But just curious, what do you mean by "man dd"? [11:16] man is a command to access manual pages that tell you about the program, in this case dd. [11:18] you mean like sudo man dd in terminal? [11:19] no need for sudo [11:20] interesting, sudo man dd [11:20] ok. thx much [11:23] johnjbogle1: you use sudo to run a command with superuser privileges, not needed to read a manual page [11:42] hi all, q: how to enable virtual desktop switching/wall in the favorites quick launcher bar for ubuntu 18.04, like it was in 16.04, i do a lot with my mouse while i sit in a lazy chair and my keyboard is put aside ;) [11:44] it's annoying that ubuntu desktop designers think it's more easy to use keyboard shortcuts, wich it isn't if you do not want to have ur keyboard on ur lap all the time [11:45] left top corner > activities [11:45] then right the bar will appear [11:46] if i click the activities bar i can chose between active windows, not nnavigate to an empty virtual desktop [11:47] but thanks for that tip anyway as i didn't know that ;) [11:47] in 16 there was a virtual wall icon in the launcher, so clicking it would make u able to chose one [11:48] i cant find any setting in dconf for this [11:48] cant find it in searches also :( [11:49] maybe there is a gnome-shell extention? [11:51] mmm, lets see what gnome tweak tool can do [11:52] ow lol its standard installed :') [11:54] no it just sets the behaivoir of the workspaces, i guess i need to search for "gnome shell extention workspaces" [12:02] mmm most solutions i find are years old with stuff not in the repository :( [12:05] oww found something with synaptic : gnome-shell-extention-works (additional options for gnome workspace switcher" [12:05] :-) [12:06] now i only need to figure out how to configure it :) [12:10] i see lots of keybinding options in dconf, nothing to make it go to favorites [12:14] I downloaded wsmatrixmartin.zurowietz.de.v17.shell-extension.zip from https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1485/workspace-matrix/ i have no clue what to do with it though [12:15] do i need to copy thiose files in to some directory ? [12:19] Hello, [12:20] I'd like to use kernel 5.3.0-28 on my laptop. What is the procedure to install it ? [12:20] I'm currently using 5.3.0-24. [12:21] drupol, if you run 18.04 lts + hwe, you would have 5.3.0-40-generic #32~18.04.1-Ubuntu [12:21] sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade [12:22] Ok, trying. [12:22] 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade. [12:24] oerheks: How can I check is some packages are in a kind of list where they are not allowed to be updated ? [12:27] apt-mark showhold is empty [12:27] oerheks ow lol i am blind there is a workspace swithcer hidden on the right side almost off screen when clicking activities , also i now know how to install extentions for gnome through the browser, im asorry it was there all the time , thanks again for the tip [12:28] or maybe it was added with the extra install i did with synaptic i dont know :') [12:32] drupol if you instaled a kernel version manulay, it stops updating to newer version automaticly, i forgot the procedure, but you then need to reinstall the mainline kernel thing without mentioning version numbers to make stuff auto install again or any other updating kernel line [12:32] manualy* [12:33] vuurdraak: aaah it's probably the case indeed. The laptop was provided by work. [12:33] I'll investigate that :) thanks ! [12:34] drupol: in terminal check> apt policy linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 [12:34] I have a Dockerfile for a proof of concept based on ubuntu14.04 -- how long would it take until a `apt update -y && apt install -y vim' would return an error because the packages are no longer available? [12:36] dostoyevsky, 14.04 is EOL [12:36] dead [12:36] unless you paid for ESM, you have to contact canonical directly [12:36] !esm [12:36] Canonical offers paid extended security support for end-of-life LTS releases through the Ubuntu Advantage program. For more information, see https://ubuntu.com/esm . ESM is not an Ubuntu community offering; please direct questions about it to Canonical directly. [12:37] oerheks: Ah, so I will archive the docker images, just to be sure I still can look at the proof-of-concept agian later [12:43] vuurdraak: that workspaces extension is in the repos now [12:44] !info gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock | vuurdraak [12:44] vuurdraak: gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock (source: gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock): additional options for GNOME workspace switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 52-1 (eoan), package size 92 kB, installed size 906 kB [12:49] lotuspsychje, ah its under a different name, i have found what i needed though, i wanted to be able to use my mouse to switch to a workspace, it's there now i guess it was there all along but because it was 90% of creen i didnt notice it [12:50] off screen* [12:50] Howdy all [12:51] helu [13:07] I have an ubuntu 18.04 install (unclear if it was originally installed from a server or desktop iso) that had X11 installed, but didn't have an desktop/session manager, or window manager installed. I ran `apt install ubuntu-desktop` and it installed GDM and Gnome 3, but when I start the machine now (after an initial one-time configuration wizard to set timezone and create a user account) it just gives me an empty bg [13:08] it's running in VMware workstation, the graphics stuff seems to work fine, and ps shows that it's running gdm, and gnome-session-binary, but it doesn't display any window to log into a session [13:08] what should I be checking for to get it to let me log in via GUI? [13:10] NeoHamled, what is the 'one-time configuration wizard to set timezone and create a user account' ? [13:11] I don't know. It just was there the first time when I restarted after doing the apt install command. It started with "Welcome!" and then asked me to pick a KB layout, timezone, create a user account and set the password for it [13:11] (this machine previously was configured to only have root) [13:11] So, all the files that I come across when I install a package, like the files that start with "lib" are libraries, right? [13:13] NeoHamled, honestly i don't know what you're talking about , but a nuclear option is 'sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^' <- note the caret [13:14] NeoHamled, i read here two dfferent guids that mention installing gdm3: sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade sudo apt install gnome-session gdm3 https://idroot.us/install-gui-gnome-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ & https://askubuntu.com/questions/1043048/reinstalling-gui-in-ubuntu-18-04 [13:14] sounds like he already did that [13:15] Is it okay if I just ask a question here out of curiosity? [13:15] you just did :) [13:15] mohnish: usually the convention for linux shared object libraries is to be named lib, yes [13:15] vuurdraak: Yeah, I wanted know if it was okay [13:16] NeoHamled: Thanks :) [13:16] probably true for libraries intended for static linking as well? I'm not sure. I know that if you're linking a binary dynamically you would do like -l and it just assumes the 'lib' prefix [13:16] hmm [13:16] mohe1, this is the official help channel for ubuntu, anything to do with ubuntu is okay, any thing offtopic there is #ubuntu-offtopic [13:17] okay, agreed ^^ [13:18] thank you both ioria and vuurdraak. I think I'll probably revert to my VM snapshot from before doing `apt install ubuntu-desktop` (without the caret so maybe it was matching a ton of unnecessary stuff, I just assumed it was some meta-package for necessary desktop packages, but it did end up install like firefox and all that which I don't need really), then I'll try the guide you linked vuurdraak b/c it seems simpler [13:21] oh apparently I just needed to do apt upgrade... [13:21] ^.^ [13:35] I have the feeling my gpu is not running at 100% when running a benchmark like glmark, the scores seem low from what I've read what a nvidia 2080ti should deliver [13:35] I'm running ubuntu 18.04 and have the nvidia drivers installed [13:35] how can I debug this further or what should I do? [13:35] kristian_: wich driver are you using? [13:38] lotuspsychje, I have tried 430 and 440 [13:38] kristian_: think you should go latest driver possible on a big RTX [13:38] 440 is the latest in the extra graphic ppa [13:38] yeah I think 440 is the latest lotuspsychje [13:39] kristian_: are you using stock driver, or the one from the graphics ppa? [13:40] lotuspsychje, I don't know what that is, I just went into ubuntu -> additional drivers and selected nvidia-driver-440 [13:40] 440 is only available if u added the extra ppa [13:40] I had to install ubuntu with the flag "nomodeset" though otherwise I'd get an ACPI error and weird display glitches [13:40] yeah thats normal to workaround [13:41] vuurdraak, whats ppa? I think I didn't add that but maybe I did it while following a tutorial? sorry I'm new to this [13:41] !nvidia | kristian_ [13:41] kristian_: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [13:41] ppa^ [13:41] the version frop ppa is 440.59 [13:42] krisfris, you can also try the latest driver from nvidia https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ but first make sure you have all the cli commands saved somewhere that you know how to purge and reinstall the drivers inside ubuntu if everything goes wrong [13:42] lotuspsychje, hmm can't remember doing that. and I don't know which one I have. It just says "Using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-440 (open source)" [13:43] vuurdraak: thats not reccomended from the nvidia website [13:43] Also in case it's relevant when I run nvidia-settings I get GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 14:43:33.440: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [13:43] but then the settings open [13:44] lotuspsychje, true thats why i said make sure you know how to undo it [13:44] kristian_: wich kernel are you on? [13:45] lotuspsychje, running uname -a gives me: [13:45] Linux kristian-ubuntu 5.3.0-40-generic #32~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 3 14:05:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [13:45] kristian_: ok, looking good [13:46] bbl [13:47] hello [13:48] sooo im up to 3 days now of trying to get hardwell acceleration working chromium [13:49] *restarting [13:49] ive upgrade from ubuntu 18.04 to 19.10 due to the libva/vaapi [13:50] reinstalled chromium with http://ppa.launchpad.net/saiarcot895/chromium-dev/ubuntu eoan/main [13:51] enabled hw acell in settings [13:51] enabled the flags i can [13:51] #ignore-gpu-blacklist [13:52] Hardware-accelerated video encode still shows Not available on your platform. [13:52] RougeR, what does: sudo lshw -c display say ? [13:54] vuurdraak, [13:54] https://dpaste.org/9J7M/raw [13:55] you don't have a dedicated graphics card ? [13:55] nope [13:55] you dont need one, intel integrated works [13:55] are yu using the latest drivers ? [13:55] yeah [13:57] did you add the extra graphics ppa ? [13:57] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers [13:57] sudo apt-get update [13:57] will try [13:58] maybe it has a newer driver [13:59] why recommend a ppa when you don't know if a default driver is in use or available [13:59] to try different drivers, if it soves stuff [13:59] it can also get you in trouble [13:59] shows i have driver from lshw though>? [14:00] intel driver.. not in that ppa [14:00] ah sorry i didnt know [14:00] then i will hand ur support case to the proffesionals :') [14:00] https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers [14:01] RougeR, you did file a bugreport, right? [14:01] oerheks, i have yeah, but ive since upgrade to ubuntu 19.10 [14:01] which should fix that bug [14:02] vainfow now runs without errors [14:02] https://dpaste.org/9J7M/raw [14:02] and the 2nd ppa is useless, same drier is in all ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel [14:02] and is using later vaapi and libva [14:04] RougeR, please review this information on this site. scroll down to section 11.5 Optimize Chrome GPU [14:04] https://mmikowski.github.io/k19-10-guide/ [14:05]