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Sven_vBin case anyone is still waiting for my wifi report, I'll postpone it, everything is too slow in the current setup. I'll move the install to SSD first.00:09
jeremy31Sven_vB: I had problems with a device with the same ID but I have only patched 4.15 and newer for the driver00:11
th_anyone know the output of: xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler file00:23
EriC^^it returns nothing for me on 16.0400:26
EriC^^th_: ^00:26
boubouanyone have a good how to config kerberos auth n ubuntu ?00:26
boubou18.0400:27
th_EriC^^, thanks. Dam, I set it to Nautilus, now Nautilus opens every time I try to open a file in Nautilus lol. Trying to unset it00:27
boubouThis page isn’t workinghelp.nextcloud.com is currently unable to handle this request.00:28
boubouHTTP ERROR 50000:28
boubounormal ?00:28
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th_about to just purge nautilus00:30
EriC^^th_: maybe try xdg-settings set default-url-scheme-handler file ' '00:31
th_i tried blank but it wants an app, i set it to some other app and same thing happens so it must be something else i changed last night00:31
EriC^^th_: you could probably 'mv' some config in your home dir that has the settings saved so that it defaults back00:32
EriC^^th_: try to set it to something odd, then try "grep -R <odd name here> ~" and see which file has it00:32
EriC^^th_: doing mv ~/.config ~/.config.backup should probably do it00:34
th_tried moving the nautilus folder still same thing00:37
Sven_vBonce initrd has switch_root-ed, is there any reason to keep the /boot disk connected?00:43
Sven_vBsorry I meant initramfs00:45
Sven_vBwell I should think of something to remind me about mounting /boot before kernel updates. I'll try making it a symlink to a symlink on the actual disk, then it will be dead while the disk is not mounted, and dpkg will complain I hope.00:47
Sven_vB(/boot -> /mnt/boot/kernels -> ..)00:48
eclipse_install_hi all00:53
eclipse_install_I am facing errors while running eclipse from ubuntu18.0400:56
eclipse_install_can any one here help with the error?00:56
eclipse_install_thank you00:56
th_EriC^^, i edited ~/.config/mimeapps.list and removed all Nautilus stuff, now it works01:21
th_my last issue is that Chrome opens all folders in Dolphin instead of Nautilus despite Nautilus being set as preferred file manager01:22
EriC^^th_: nice01:29
pragmaticenigmath_, that's odd... Chrome on my system opens everything in nautilus instead of Dolphin on my system01:48
th_pragmaticenigma, lets trade systems01:50
th_pragmaticenigma, what happens if you run "xdg-open ~" in terminal?01:52
c|onemanwhen I accidentally paste  100 lines of crap into my terminal window "WHAT HAVE  MAYBE DONE"01:52
th_c|oneman, one time i accidentally did source ~/.bash_history, luckily the first line threw an error and the rest didnt go through01:54
c|onemanhah01:54
Sven_vBinstalling linux-image-lowlatency-hwe somewhat solved my WiFi problem. NetworkManager and avahi-daemon still fail startup due to timeout, but my USB ethernet adapter is now detected and I can ifconfig it.01:54
th_ya i went to do source ~/.bashrc, but did the history file for some reason01:54
th_it should probably have a warning for the history file01:55
Sven_vBI meant my network problem. WiFi obviously isn't solved by ethernet. :)01:55
th_"Continue screwing up your system? y/n"01:55
Sven_vBth_, you can define a custom "source" function that checks, then potentially runs >>builtin source "$@"<<01:56
Sven_vBjust don't override the "builtin" command that way ;)01:57
Sven_vBth_, "xdg-open ~" should open your home directory in the default file manager01:58
th_Sven_vB, ya i could do that01:59
th_Sven_vB, ya the problem is with Chrome, since chrome supposedly uses xdg-open, our problem is that its not opening the actual default file manager. mines set to Nautilus, chrome opens folders in Dolphin. meanwhile in terminal, it opens correctly with Nautilus.02:00
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th_still digging through mime/xdg crap trying to figure out what is causing it02:02
Phruisim not able to connect to my jupyter notebook02:06
nt0Phruis: i ran into the same thing a couple of weeks ago.  trying to remember what i had to do to fix it.  iirc it had something to do with editing jupyter's config in a ~/.jupyter/<something> file.  had to do with permissions02:12
pragmaticenigmath_, xdg-open on my machine for some reason opened Visual Studio Code02:19
Sven_vBYeah! I finally found why my cheap USB ethernet adapters have so much packet loss usually: They all have the same MAC by default! :D02:24
pragmaticenigmath_, does "xdg-settings --list" have any entries?02:27
Sven_vBin case someone wants to donate an udev rule that auto-replaces said MAC, it's 00e04c53445802:29
Sven_vB(donate as in, try and submit it for inclusion onto a next ubuntu)02:29
th_pragmaticenigma, default-url-scheme-handler and default-web-browser, i think this command runs through xdg-mime results. run "xdg-mime query default inode/directory" to see default file manager02:31
th_in cinnamon this is controlled in Preferred Applications02:32
pragmaticenigmamine says nautilus02:33
pragmaticenigmawhere are these .desktop file stored?02:33
th_so you can set mime handlers for different files with xdg-mime, then xdg-settings can set url scheme handlers like irc:// file:// mailto://02:34
pragmaticenigmaif I knew where the .desktop files it used were located02:35
th_few different places, ~/.local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications, /usr/local/share/applications02:35
th_ /usr/share is system wide, /usr/local is distro specific, and ~/.local/share is user specific02:36
nt0pragmaticenigma: man find02:37
pragmaticenigmant0, well aware of find ... there well over 2,000 directories... helps to know a starting point02:38
nt0computers r fast02:39
pragmaticenigmaodd th_ , I don't actually have a .desktop for nautilus that I can find02:39
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crippledmonkubuntu focal fossa up and running well on old c2duo Dell inspiron 1720. seems to be running right along03:23
th_welp after stracing realized that chrome/firefox opens folders through DBus03:24
lotuspsychje!discuss | crippledmonk03:25
ubottucrippledmonk: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!03:25
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Phruisso the restore functionality isn't working with nautilus04:14
th_dbus opening Dolphin: dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.FileManager1 /org/freedesktop/FileManager1 org.freedesktop.FileManager1.ShowItems array:string:"file:~" string:""04:17
wenxinhey guys , can any one tell what dose -y mean in this command :" sudo apt install vim-gnome -y"?06:16
wenxinhey guys . when i ran Vim --version ,i found -clipboard . how should i change it to +clipboard?06:29
SlidingHornwell IIRC, apt doesn't have the -y flag, but I could be wrong...regardless, for apt-get, it basically automatically answers "yes" to all prompts06:41
SlidingHornIf vim is missing the clipboard feature, that means that it was compiled that way. In order to get it, you would need to compile a new version from source code with that feature enabled06:42
SlidingHorn(sorry for the lack of nicks...my irssi is kind of screwy at the moment, and some names don't display)06:43
rana_anshi anyone who could help me with this?: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ggp8tz4w9N/07:33
ducasserana_ans: which release is this?07:35
rana_ansstretch07:36
rana_ansducasse07:36
rana_ansdo you want the month of release too?07:36
ducasserana_ans: then try #debian, we only support ubuntu07:36
rana_ansok thanks07:37
ducasserana_ans: python 2 is eol now, though, just fyi07:37
rana_ansducasse: Im just a noob in this stuff, I have no idea what eol is :D07:39
ducasserana_ans: end of life, no longer supported07:40
OERIASbonjour07:40
OERIASI have an issue with a notebook running ubuntu07:40
OERIASit is a machine that has 12 gb of ram07:40
OERIASbut it is sluggish07:40
lotuspsychjeOERIAS: ubuntu version? sluggish how? where, when?07:45
mmmmmmMy iMac (late 2009) is not listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages#Mactel_Community_Documentation so I'm not sure which packages I should install based on these "Mactel" resources, or does Linux/Ubuntu (MATE) work well out of the box on Macs at this point? I want to make sure the fans are running well and the components don't get too hot. Can anyone recommend any resources?08:05
archon1hi there. I got no sound in ubuntu 19.10 on raspi 408:06
archon1aplay -l08:06
archon1aplay: device_list:272: no soundcards found...08:06
archon1I disabled pulseaudio since it mess with scummvm and dosbox sound08:06
archon1anyone got a clue ?08:06
ducassemmmmmm: in most cases it's just a matter of installing the right wifi drivers, afaik08:06
mmmmmmThe wifi is working fine out of the box08:07
lotuspsychjemmmmmm: i tested 18.04 on a lot of macs already with success, how about you try a liveusb on it?08:07
mmmmmmThe motherboard is a bit damaged though. Only 2 of 3 fans work so I might need to configure the other two to run faster to compensate08:08
mmmmmmI'm on live USB right now08:08
ducassemmmmmm: install lm-sensors, run sensors-detect and then sensors to watch the temps08:09
mmmmmmIt doesn't feel hot but it would be good to actually see the different temperatures of the components like I could in mac os with MacsFanControl08:09
ducassealso look at fancontrol08:09
mmmmmmHmm, yes I did use lm-sensors and sensors-detect but I just said yes to all... I should probably reboot this live cd and try that again08:10
coffeeGhostHeya! So I have a Thinkpad and UEFI capsule updates aren't applying. I believe it's because it's doing multiple updates. I see the instructions here: https://github.com/rhboot/fwupdate/wiki/Debugging-UEFI-Capsule-updates#i-am-doing-multiple-updates-and-it-fails but am not exactly sure how to do these steps on Ubuntu.08:10
mmmmmmI'll be back08:10
mmmmmmAfter dinner08:10
archon1i disabled pulseaudio and get no sound, alsa don't find any device08:17
archon1is pulseaudio mandatory on ubuntu ?08:18
lotuspsychje!info pavucontrol | archon1 try this08:18
ubottuarchon1 try this: pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0-4 (eoan), package size 123 kB, installed size 933 kB08:18
ducassethat won't work without pulse08:19
coffeeGhostwhoops08:19
archon1I need to disable pulseaudio because it mess with scummvm and dosbox sounds ..08:19
ducassearchon1: you might have better luck in #ubuntu-arm08:19
archon1:)08:19
archon1thx08:19
mmmmmmI've run sensors-detect, I said yes to all again, then I ran `sensors`. It seems I have a bunch of bogus sensors, or something. Half of them read -120 C. And I can't tell which is which, like I don't know what component TA0P is. Anyone know how I can make sense of this?08:41
ducassemmmmmm: did you reboot after running sensors-detect? iirc you need to, to load the right modules08:42
mmmmmmI'm on a live usb right now so I'll have to install it and try it on an actual installation08:49
mmmmmmback in one moment09:11
OERIASlotuspsychje, when I copy files or load an app I can barely move the mouse cursor09:17
OERIASit is the current version.09:18
oerhekscurrent? 16.04, 18.04, 19.10 ?09:24
oerheksMint?09:25
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clarkkI want to run two instances of a desktop app (telegram) and have two separate icons on the system bar. I have two instances running ok, each using a seperate telegram profile/config file, but the icons on the toolbar are merged   https://www.dropbox.com/s/owj6bdehk6cdlrd/Selection_408.png?dl=010:23
clarkkSee the screenshot.  Does anyone know how I can separate the icons?10:23
clarkkI copied the telegram binary folder so each instance runs from a different binary, but it didn't change the behaviour10:24
lotuspsychjeclarkk: think its normal for an indicator to collect notifys from the program itself (in your case 2 telegrams)10:30
lotuspsychjeclarkk: so i dont think its meant to be, to have double indicators10:31
oerheksi see no solution for that..10:31
lotuspsychjeclarkk: cant you add several accounts into 1 telegram session?10:32
clarkklotuspsychje, the desktop version doesn't allow you to add more than one account.  The mobile version does tho10:40
clarkkok, not to worry. Thanks for your advice10:40
clarkkJust a thought, could it be achieved with chroot?10:51
ducasseit would still be seen as one app, i think10:56
jcdutton Hi. Does anyone know what command to use, like iostat, that can report on fuse filesystems.   I.e. one mounted with sshfs11:10
TJ-clarkk: did you try renaming one of the binaries - the combined icons might be keyed to the executable name (or not!)12:10
BluesKajHi folks12:11
HamiltonWhat will I lose if I install Xubuntu instead? (I don't want gnome and I'm gonna install i3wm anyway)12:13
akemThere is Lubuntu also which is pretty nice with lxqt.12:14
evilsis there a way to ensure new windows open on the primary display? got a tv as a secondary output, and that input is usually not used on the tv, so windows just disappear12:53
TJ-evils: you mean the TV is connected to the PC but TV is turned off/on standby?13:04
TJ-evils: sounds like the TV is reporting itself as active so the PC is auto-configuring to use it. You'd need to either disconnect or use xrandr (or GUI equivilent) to disable the output to the TV13:06
sixwheeledbeastMaybe check the TV settings for the above issue13:09
evilsTJ-: the tv is on, but using another input, no automatic reconfiguration happens when switching it to the pc input13:10
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TJ-evils: OK, so you'd have to tell the PC not to use the output13:12
evilsso, that would cause the video player to be moved to the primary screen, i want to keep that there...13:12
TJ-evils: e.g. "xrandr --output HDMI-1 --off"13:12
evilsthis is my father's setup, i can't expect him to use the GUI to configure displays, let alone use xrandr13:13
TJ-evils: the problem you've got is you're telling the desktop Environment it has 2 x the space so it auto-positions in that space, but then you don't really want it using the space the TV shows. Most DEs assume if the output is there, it can be used13:14
evilshence my question, is there any way to have new windows default to the primary display?13:14
TJ-evils: also, if the TV is positioned LEFT of the primary (so it's co-ordinates are lower) I'd expect often windows would be opened there by default, but it depends on the DE13:14
TJ-evils: "depends on the DE"13:15
evilswell, i'm asking about the default ubuntu DE13:15
TJ-evils: That'd be Gnome. I don't use it13:18
evilsbtw, how close to stock gnome is ubuntu's DE?13:19
TJ-Don't know - not used either in over 10 years13:20
BluesKajevils I came late to this discussion, what exactly do you want to do with the TV/pc connection?13:21
evilsTJ-: out of curiousity (not trying to offend, though it may sound like it), why use ubuntu then?13:21
evilsBluesKaj: got a primary monitor, and a secondary output going to a TV, the TV is usually displaying another input, i'd like new windows not to use the secondary output, so a video player can stay on stand-by on the secondary output13:22
TJ-evils: Ubuntu isn't the DE; we have a lot of different DEs, plus ubuntu is used more on servers where there is no GUI13:23
BluesKajI use my tv as a primary output so I wouldn't knoe how to help13:26
TJ-I know in other DEs there is/was an option to "open new windows on display X"13:27
ducassemaybe devilspie/gdevilspie can help13:28
evilsyea, i had previously found something that sounded about right from KDE, i'm an i3wm user...13:28
evilsducasse: devilspie looks interesting, doesn't look like something my dad could use, or even disable, but nice to know of, thanks13:31
ducasseyou could set it up so it runs bt default13:32
ducasse*by13:32
leftyfbevils: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/39/put-windows/13:33
sixwheeledbeastMaybe some cheap HDMI switcher as a hardware work around?13:34
evilssixwheeledbeast: that wouldn't solve anything, the input can already be selected by the tv, and i want it to remain active (i don't want the video player to be forced to the primary display, nor do i want it inaccessible)13:34
leftyfbevils: also, you can set the default display in the GUI and all Windows will open there by default. Unless you're active in the secondary display, then I think they open there13:35
evilsleftyfb: that's the behaviour i would expect, it's not the behaviour i got13:35
leftyfbevils: try the extension I linked above13:35
TJ-evils: is the TV to the LEFT of the primary monitor?13:35
evilsTJ-: yes13:36
sixwheeledbeastThe switcher would phyisically disconnect the HDMI updating the DE that there is now only 1 display.13:36
TJ-evils: right... positioning is going to the coordinates close to 0 (zero)13:36
TheroXntesting13:36
evilssixwheeledbeast: yes, this would force the video player to the primary display13:36
evilsTJ-: kinda sounds like i want to move the TV to [not-left-of-primary]13:36
TJ-sixwheeledbeast: I think the aim is to have the video player on the TV even when TV isn't showing that input... but all other new windows must open on the Primary display13:37
TJ-evils: yeah... if TV could be to RIGHT you'd likely be fine :)13:37
evilsthat is indeed the desired behaviour13:37
evilsunfortunately, the tv is physically left of the primary display xD13:37
sixwheeledbeastThat didn't seem the case in the original question, but it seems so yes.13:37
TJ-evils: I suspect the meaning of "Primary" has changed so it now only means 'where the taskbar and menu is located'13:38
TJ-evils: turn them upside down? :D13:38
TJ-evils: I'm wondering if you could use an RandR translation matrix to effectively alter the coords on the left display... almost certainly not, but then again :)13:39
TJ-evils: hmmm, it does look to be possible. See "man xrandr" and the "--transform" info13:40
evilsdevilspie and putwindows both seem like they could cause the desired behaviour if one could set a wildcard like `* opens on display 1`, but they both seem a bit too fiddly, vs "just switch inputs if you open a new window and it didn't appear"13:41
TJ-evils: looks like you could translate/shift the X axis using an offset for the 'c' element13:41
evilsTJ-: i suspect that'll lose some robustness if this setup is ever changed, which is most likely to happen when i'm not around to set up xrandr again13:42
sixwheeledbeastSo I assume sitting the PC display as primary and modifying the way you open the media player with some geometry offset wouldn't work?13:43
BluesKajor connect a usb hdd with the media on it and let the tv software take care of the playback13:44
clarkkTJ-, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, that didn't work either13:45
evilssixwheeledbeast: that would result in the media player always opening on the tv, which is also not what i want, and it wouldn't stop new windows from opening there13:45
TJ-clarkk: possibly an internal name/icon name being used as the key. did you try duplicating the icon to another name and setting that in the .desktop file for one of the instances?13:46
sixwheeledbeastMaybe two options an open media player normally and a modified media player13:46
TJ-evils: is this X not wayland? if so, create 2 X screens. each operates independently of the other but share the mouse.13:46
evilsBluesKaj: but then he can't control playback from the computer xD, also wouldn't work to play a dvd unless he rips it, puts it on the usb hdd and finds the usb port, then finds the tv menu item to play it13:46
TJ-evils: so anything started on :0.0 (primary) stays there, anything started on :0.1 (TV) would stay there13:47
TJ-evils: then you can start on the TV with something like "DISPLAY=:0.1 vlc ..."13:47
evilsTJ-: i'd rather teach him i3 xD13:47
TJ-evils: I run 6-monitor setups with 4 X screens; they're very useful for this kind of thing13:48
evilsthe issue isn't getting a setup that acts as desired, the issue is getting that behaviour in a robust way (because i won't be able to fix it)13:51
evilsthe most realistic way i can currently think of to ensure this behaviour is to open every app installed, move them all to the primary display, close them all; it sounds like their position will be remembered13:52
evilsdoesn't help for new apps, but on those rare occasions i suppose one could toggle the tv's input13:53
BluesKajor make the tv the primary13:54
evilsto summarize, this is a minor annoyance and there's no simple way to fix it13:54
evilsBluesKaj: then at least it's obvious why they're opening there?13:54
BluesKajit's a matter of priorities i guess13:57
sixwheeledbeastThe only thing I can think of to help is Alt+Space would bring up your active window menu to move it around. As you say may not be helpful if your not good with this stuff.14:00
swift110hey all14:56
wawrekhi there, is it safe to remove snapd fron ubuntu ? does the core of the os need it?14:56
leftyfbwawrek: run: sudo snap list  # this will list any snaps installed that will be affected by removing snapd14:57
sixwheeledbeastwawrek: Yes you can remove it. Apparmor may complain that's about it14:59
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: that is not good advice14:59
wawrekleftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MqCJGyD4z5/14:59
wawrekthis is the paste.14:59
wawrekwhy gnome and cor epackages are installed through snap?14:59
leftyfbwawrek: ok, you will lose all of those applications if you remove snapd14:59
wawrekI don't care that much. but is it a good idea to loose core, core18?15:00
wawrekI was worried about these 2 ones.15:00
leftyfbwawrek: that should be ok. As long as you don't mind losing all of the applications you listed above15:01
sixwheeledbeastPeople that want to remove snapd will not care about loosing snaps. I have removed snapd without issue FWIW.15:01
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: Again, incorrect. Some applications are installed from snap by default now and going forward, might only be available from snap. Not everyone that wants to remove snapd knows they will lose applications they might be using. Telling them to blindly remove snapd is bad advice.15:02
sixwheeledbeastWFMIt's not blindly removing it, it's answering the question.15:03
sixwheeledbeastclearly if you don't have snapd you will not get snaps.15:04
sixwheeledbeastwhat direction ubuntu wants to go is another matter.15:04
wawreksixwheeledbeast: thanks. I removed snap - it seems to be working fine. I just lost chrome and skype15:05
sixwheeledbeastwawrek: :nod:15:05
leftyfbsixwheeledbeast: again, some Ubuntu applications are installed from snap by default now. gnome-calculator, gnome logs and gnome-system-monitor for instances. Not everyone understands removing snapd will remove those applications and might be using them regularly.15:06
wawrekgnome-logs were listed indeed15:06
sixwheeledbeastwawrek: I had apparmor complain that snapd was missing in aa logs you may want to adjust that15:07
wawrekhte calculater, the system monitor as well15:07
wawrekhow to adjust this?15:07
sixwheeledbeastMaking everything all depend on snapd like this shouldn't be default IMO.15:19
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oerhekssixwheeledbeast, that is not said/written anywere15:30
sixwheeledbeastoerheks: That was hinted above?15:31
oerheksyes?15:31
leftyfbhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040126.html15:31
oerheksbtw this is not the channel to discuss this, #ubuntu-discuss is made for that15:32
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MeiRHi. I've just upgraded ubuntu successfully (to 16.04, don't ask why just now :D), and after the boot it prompted me the familiar conf diff menu, but in some point it failed to continue15:52
MeiRcan I somehow recover this stage for a convenient lookup?15:53
clemanshaving issues with persistent blobfuse mount storage in Ubuntu 18.04. I have the mount script working fine and a simple `mount -a` after a reboot puts things back to normal but my issue is simply the persisting mount isn't working on boot. Any help is appreciated. Here's the article relating to my setup:15:59
clemanshttps://github.com/Azure/azure-storage-fuse/wiki/2.-Configuring-and-Running15:59
oerheksclemans, use paste.ubuntu.com for your 'script' and mount line from your fstab?16:03
clemanssure thing. One second.16:03
clemans@oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GmHxNHmjP/16:06
oerheksclemans, delete that post please, lucky you have it under your name16:07
oerheksas it contains private info16:07
clemansIt's white washed, don't worry16:07
oerheksoh oke16:08
oerhekspieeeuw16:08
clemans:)16:08
oerheksline 15 i worry about16:08
clemansI hear ya. if you look closely, that line literally has the word 'random' in it. I also changed all characters to random ones.16:09
oerheks:-)16:09
oerheksi am missing  --container-name=mycontainer ( =backup in your case)16:15
oerheks?16:15
Nyleis it possile to get latest KDE on 18.04?16:39
NylePlastma 5.1716:39
WoCis there a some known support channel for mesa ?16:40
WoCstruggeling with opencl undert mesa on my ubuntu installation...16:41
WoCidk if it is because it is a 64 bit os with 32 bit gpu16:42
ducasseWoC: apparently not on freenode, maybe on another network16:57
WoCty, despite the name; #dri-devel seems to be the go-to place17:01
oerheksNyle, you might want to reask in #kubuntu or #kde17:13
dreamonhello. want to buy a thinkpad. I can choose between a Intel UHD or a AMD RADEON RX640 graphic card.17:22
lotuspsychje!hardware | dreamon start here17:23
ubottudreamon start here: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection17:23
dreamonbut I could not find any kind of information that RX640 works on Ubuntu17:23
dreamonlotuspsychje, nothing ..17:25
de-factodreamon, do you know https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki ?17:27
oerhekseven amd gives no clue; too new?17:32
dreamonde-facto, it looks very old. last entry 2018. this notebook is a new one.17:32
oerheksand what laptop uses this? hints point to apple..17:32
dreamonLenovo Thinkpad E15 20RD0011GE17:34
oerheksright, too new .. you have to be patient, for amdgpu-pro17:37
dreamonoerheks, so, by buying this device will make totally no picture?17:38
zutatdell xps ;)17:40
oerheksdreamon, you have to try an ubuntu live session, obviously we cannot tell17:41
dreamonI will make a telephon call to ask for. I cannot try because I didnt bought till now ;)17:42
oerheksdreamon, and ask if that intel 10th gen has its own gpu build in? or is it such a intel + amd mix?17:43
oerhekselse; ask if the UHD version can be upgraded with a mobile gpu17:44
dreamon oerheks, Intel gpu is a different device → 20RD001AGE17:44
Sven_vBhi! any hints on how to get the battery indicator (ideally, acpi -b) working on an Acer Aspire SW5-012?17:45
Sven_vBusing xenial with linux-image-lowlatency-hwe17:46
Sven_vBWindows 10 can't see the battery either btw17:46
Sven_vBI know the machine is problematic, I got it for free though. :)17:47
* Sven_vB found https://github.com/jfrimmel/Acer-Switch-Battery-Module , will try.17:49
Nyleoerheks: ok tha;nks17:59
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Nyleseriously.18:00
eelstrebori need to securely erase some hdd's but everything i read says that there really isn't a 100% reliable way to securely erase an hdd or ssd short of melting them down into a pool of goo18:18
Sven_vBwhat. suddenly it works, while I was still trying to debug the Makefile errors. is there a way to query which kernel module I currently use to see my battery level?18:19
zippo^Hi, I cannot find: an application of Google Drive on Ubuntu Mate?18:19
zippo^Can someone help me?18:19
Sven_vBeelstrebor, I have just the right website for you, somewhere. *searching*18:20
Sven_vBeelstrebor, I assume you're already familiar with the different approaches for magnetic disks vs. SSD, and know why not to overwrite SSDs?18:21
TJ-Sven_vB: "ls -l /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/device/driver"18:22
Sven_vBeelstrebor, I cannot quickly find the page for SSDs, but here's for magnetic diks http://web.archive.org/web/20200224161004/http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html18:22
Sven_vB*disks18:22
Sven_vBTJ-, thanks!18:22
CoraxynMorning18:22
Sven_vBhi :)18:24
CoraxynInstalled 18.04 LTS and all works except graphics.  Using AMD RX5500 XT.  Installed AMD drivers and get two lines of text about recovering journal and clean, then total freeze18:24
eelstreborSven_vB, i'm aware that ssd's have a different wipe technique than hdd except that both have a ata secure erase feature that operates diffently between and hdd and ssd18:24
CoraxynWill not even boot into grub18:24
CoraxynWhat now?18:25
eelstreborkind of a hassle to get the drive unfrozen18:25
Sven_vBeelstrebor, as long as you understand that (and ideally, why) an SSD will try its best to resist your overwrite attempts, you're probably good. :)18:26
Sven_vBeelstrebor, if you need to unfreeze it, I guess your HDD is actually an SSD?18:28
eelstreborSven_vB, nope, not an ssd when it has a label with 7200 rpm printed on it18:30
eelstrebori ran hdparm on both ssd and hdd and they're all frozen18:31
Sven_vBeelstrebor, then you should be able to wipe it by regular block device access18:31
eelstrebori started shred last night and it still hasn't finished the first pass18:32
Sven_vBmake a symlink to /dev/disk/by-id/???, double-check it points to the right disk then as root, "ddrescue /dev/urandom wipedisk" + probably --force or similar18:32
Sven_vBoh wow18:32
eelstrebori'm trying secure erase now - hdparm says it'll take 3 hours18:32
Sven_vBis the disk that slow, or is it on a slow USB interface?18:33
Sven_vByeah in case of slow link the internal erase will be faster.18:33
eelstreborit's sata 318:33
Sven_vBstrange18:33
Sven_vBanyway, good luck :)18:33
eelstreborthe drive is failing though18:33
Sven_vBTJ-, it was a symlink to ../../../../../bus/acpi/drivers/battery, but it only has another symlink PNP0C0A:00 -> ../../../../devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/80860F41:00/PNP0C0A:00/ and 3 write-only files bind, unbind, uevent18:35
Sven_vBTJ-, is the driver name part of the symlink? if so, which?18:35
TJ-Sven_vB: it's using the standard ACPI battery interface18:36
Sven_vBTJ-, how can I find the kernel module name for that? lsmod has many with name *acpi*: acpi_pad acpi_thermal_rel sdhci sdhci_acpi snd_intel_sst_acpi snd_intel_sst_core snd_soc_acpi snd_soc_acpi_intel_match18:38
TJ-Sven_vB: it's built-in18:38
Sven_vBoh I see18:38
Sven_vBthanks!18:38
mplsjokerhow come I can18:39
clemansI believe I've narrowed down my mount on boot issue to `_netdev` not fully working. I wonder if its possible that the mount fails during boot because it happens prior to networking being established. If this is to be true, what's the best way to create a `mount -a` script that runs on boot post networking-up ?18:54
mplsjokerno longer boot toram from=usb with acpi=off into recovery mode on Ubuntu18:57
Sinother_83someone knows why ubuntu frozen at start after change ip?hello everyone this happen so quickly18:59
Sinother_83i can't dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop19:00
Sinother_83ill search inf aboy it but nothing happens, recovery mode works fine19:01
Sinother_83no mouse, no keyboard19:01
Sinother_83any help its ap`reciated19:02
Sinother_83anyone recomend me to actualice to 19.xx?19:04
Sinother_83noone?19:04
Sinother_83:(19:04
compdocnever heard of actualice19:05
leftyfbsonicsignal: 19.xx of what?19:09
leftyfbSinother_83: ^19:09
gandhiiGot a 4k monitor on hdmi and a standard monitor on dvi plugged into built in amd rhyzen 3 gpu.  DVI monitor only works if the hdmi is unplugged... otherwise only the 4k. Only the single monitor shows up in the display settings.  Any suggestions to get both working?19:09
gandhiiSinother: not understanding..  try going over the specifics of what you changed before it choked19:11
TJ-Just experienced a very weird issue with 19.10/5.3.0-40 ... whilst moving the laptop bluetooth input totally died whilst I rested a Qi portable battery pack on the keyboard. dmesg showing USB hardware/hci0 errors. Had to "modprobe -r btusb" and reinsert the module to regain control.19:17
TJ-keyboard is bluetooth19:17
gandhiiweird.   a cold boot not bring things back in line?19:18
hggdhTJ-: weird. Can you repeat the issue? What you said makes me think of EM interference19:19
TJ-Didn't need/want to go that far... just intrigued whether it was coincidence or the Qi actually affected the PC itself19:19
TJ-hggdh: I don't want to right now... the 'PC' part is the display portion, the keyboard only has a BT transceiver in to talk to the 'display' ... the Qi was on the front palm rest so at least 20cm from the active electronics of the PC part19:20
TJ-hggdh: this is an Asus transformer-style (T300CHI) with magnetically attached bluetooth keyboard/touchpad dock19:20
TJ-hggdh: Qi shouldn't be activated anyhow - doubt the 25A battery pack it is part of would upset things though19:21
hggdhTJ-: it could be coincidence; it could also be an unshielded enclosure on the battery pack, or the display (more probable, I think)19:23
TJ-hggdh: yeah... I use the keyboard as a tray like this quite alot but this was first time carrying the Qi charger pack... I'll try it later when I don't need to work!19:23
TJ-Hmmm, it all starts with 5 repeats of "[Sun Mar  8 18:41:37 2020] usb 1-4: Failed to suspend device, error -110"19:25
TJ-OH! I wonder... maybe the Qi pack triggered the lid-closed detection but somehow then reset it so the PC didn't actually try to suspend (PC remained responsive to its hardware buttons for Vol Up/Down)19:26
chandooHi19:36
chandooI am installing ubunt on mac mini 2011 , i am struggling to find fglrx, can you pls help19:36
Dixie_FAnyone here to answer a question I can't figure out how to google19:40
TJ-!ask | Dixie_F19:41
ubottuDixie_F: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:41
Dixie_Flol, sorry.  So I am recovering a system and the system seems largely functional except for some odd key things that were ok before (mostly in vim) and a problem with less,more,man where regardless of what I set for number of lines in $LINES they are nearly unusable.  This makes debug challenging19:42
pennTellerHi guys, can I get your input on how to find the latest network outage on my ubuntu server?19:43
Eickmeyer[m]!server | pennTeller19:44
ubottupennTeller: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server19:44
pennTellerthanks19:46
TJ-Dixie_F: sounds like a terminal emulator issue. Are you working from the GUI or from a virtual console?19:47
Dixie_FNeither, I am trying despeately to get ssh working so my 54 yr old bod can stop sitting on the floor in front of a monitor I have connected to my usually headless server.19:49
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Dixie_Fcould be.  I think .... do you think term persits through logins? I had a ton of issues till I renamed .bashrc19:50
Dixie_Fyup, xterm-256 color19:51
Dixie_Fwhat should term be for a local monitor on a no-gui OS?19:51
TJ-Dixie_F: try "screen" or "vt-100"19:54
Dixie_Fvt-100 is really bad screen is sortof the same although it responds to changes in $LINES19:57
TJ-Dixie_F: have you tried a "reset" command in the terminal?20:00
Dixie_Fno that's a good thought20:00
TJ-Dixie_F: it could be some stray control codes have reprogrammed it20:00
Dixie_Fbash: reset command not found20:04
Dixie_F???20:04
TJ-Dixie_F: try Ctrl+J reset Ctrl+J20:07
Dixie_Fsame20:07
Dixie_FI am not running linux20:07
TJ-Errrrr.... !20:08
Dixie_Ftput sgr020:09
Dixie_Fsolaris based unix20:09
PazoozaOpen Indiana.20:09
Dixie_Fsmartos20:10
TJ-Dixie_F: this is *Ubuntu* support nothing else20:11
Dixie_FOk, you've been a great help.  I will cease asking...20:12
Dixie_FI figured they were generic questions20:12
ShirakawasunaAnyone have luck setting up wireguard on ubuntu 18.04? I'd like to follow a secure strategy with relatively little config file editing - not because it's too technical, but because it's easy to forget where my settings live when they're distributed in various parts of /etc.20:19
Shirakawasunae.g., I found the network-manager-wireguard project, but it's only available via compiling it myself or PPAs with way too many packages in them. Makes me concerned about security.20:19
oerhekscompile it yourself, or wait for kernel 5.6 something?20:20
Shirakawasunasorry, I mean just being a client20:21
ShirakawasunaI already have a wireguard server set up20:21
Shirakawasunafrom what I can tell, the way to set up wireguard, currently, is to mess with a few config files directly. Just want to make sure that is, indeed, the best option20:21
oerheksall guides i find ask you to generate a key, edit a conf file and enable wireguard20:24
oerheksnot that much steps though20:25
oerheksand take a look at https://www.wireguard.com/todo/ todo list, it is a project in progress20:26
ioriaor simply install 19.1020:26
ws2k3when i connect from ubuntu to openvpn i get the following error Sun Mar  8 16:50:46 2020 /sbin/ip addr add dev tun0 172.15.145.232/24 broadcast 172.15.145.25520:30
ws2k3Error: Invalid prefix for given prefix length. what could be wrong here?20:30
Shirakawasunaioria, gonna wait on 20.0420:31
ShirakawasunaI've had a much smoother time upgrading between LTSs20:31
Shirakawasunaoerheks, yes, but still better than openvpn20:31
ioriaShirakawasuna, the problem is not lts or not, but what you have done on your system20:33
ShirakawasunaI think LTS --> LTS upgrades get more testing20:34
Shirakawasunasince they're targeted not just at desktop users but cloud20:34
iorianasty german sluts20:39
ioriakjf  ebrsdfgjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj20:39
oerhekscats and keyboards ..20:40
ioriai beg your pardon, my idiot brother20:41
jeremy31LOL20:46
XC2299I have a raid10 machine setup and I think some of the disks came loose (they weren't reporting). I've reseated the cables and the drives now appear, but mdadm is reporting that "Found some drive for an array that is already active /dev/md/0".21:03
XC2299Alert UUID:.... does not exist. Dropping into shell!21:04
XC2299My google foo is failing me, does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do or look into?21:04
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chandooneed graphics card help21:17
chandooare there any special grub entries for graphics ATI 6630M, cos mac mini doesnt boot21:17
chandoountil i make changes to grub entry add nomodset and remove quiet21:18
Bashing-omchandoo: AMD drivers are now in the kernel. What shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?21:19
chandootwo entries display unclaimed one for Radeon HD 6630M and second for integrated graphica controller21:21
chandooBashing-om, first entry is VGA compatible controller21:21
Bashing-omchandoo: Ouch - laptop with optimus graphics ?21:22
chandoohttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cymbtPRSTZ21:24
chandooBashing-om,21:24
chandooBashing-om, it is mac mini 201121:24
chandooBashing-om, what entries grub should have to boot sucessfully?21:26
chandoohow to fix the boot issue21:26
chandoodoes this link make any sense21:28
chandoohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELUzf0MDQS021:28
chandooi am thinking of trying those entries into grub21:29
oerheksblacklist nouveau might be a help https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux21:31
Bashing-omchandoo: I do not find 6630M listed - still checking. I do not have audio on this work station but will see what the youtube link is.21:31
oerheksfor mac mini 201121:31
chandoooerheks, yes21:32
chandooall i have is grey screen while booting21:32
chandooif i press ESC and makde gru changes then i can boot into ubuntu21:33
FreValI have installed ubuntu on my laptop, but windows is still installed there too. I cant boot into windows anymore and just want to completly remove it. But i cant see the partition in gparted. Maybe its in a safe mode or something. Is it possible to find it and remove it from Ubuntu ?.21:43
bpromptFreVal:  should show up in gparted, check the device list closely21:48
bpromptFreVal:  assuming is still there21:48
FreValbprompt it does not show, i have 1TB of storage and it only shows 1 partition on 500g and 512efi.21:49
bpromptFreVal:  then  maybe it's gone21:50
FreValSo half of the harddrive just vanished ?21:51
oerheksyou might have installed ubuntu in not-uefi mode?21:52
oerheksor windows in legacy, and ubuntu in uefi mode?21:52
oerheks!uefi21:52
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:52
Bashing-omchandoo: Found no help - yet. My graphics here are not good enough to follow the youtube ^ link. As there is also no driver for the Intel chipset; what can you boot to if the "nomodeset" parameter is not used ?21:54
chandooBashing-om, just grey color screen21:56
FreValoerheks, I got an Dell Xps 15 7590, And I am not sure where to find where its says Uefi / legacy in that bios.21:56
Bashing-omchandoo: Can you get as far as the login screen before that grey ?21:58
Bashing-omchandoo: I have the idea that from 2011, that updateing the pciids will be a good thing, Maybe we can get the system to boot to TTY and update ?21:59
chandoono login screen, nothing displays on the screen22:01
chandoowhile booting i press ESC and goto grub edit and boot works22:02
AristideHello !22:03
AristideSomeone has already try to boot Ubuntu on a HI8 Chuwi tablet ?22:03
Aristide(from µSD card)22:04
Aristide(For example)22:04
Bashing-omchandoo: "grub edit" is adding the nomodeset boot paramater ? I have the thought to replace it and boot to TTY there.22:06
chandooBashing-om, that is what i am adding22:07
chandoofor that i am interrupting the boot process and editing the grub, or else i see gray screen22:07
FreValoerheks it is installed in Uefi mode22:08
Bashing-omchandoo: Ack. let's see if you can boot to TTY, instead of nomodeset insert the term " systemd.unit=multi-user.target ". Advise if you gain the terminal here.22:09
chandooi am in ubuntu now22:09
chandoowhat do you want to modify22:09
FreValoerheks I checked what ubuntu is installed in, and that is in Uefi. Not sure about Windows. But can i somehow just remove everything and reinstall ubuntu?.22:10
chandooi am in terminal22:10
Bashing-omchandoo: We just update drom here :) .. run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo update-pciids ' .22:11
Bashing-omfrom*22:11
chandooBashing-om, okay done22:14
rynakHey, I got a fsck problem and want to check before I do something wrong: [Backstory] I (wrongly) installed tp_smapi on my X240 (with Linux Mint). On the next boot, fsck failed and I had to boot a live iso. I started sudo fsck /dev/sda2 as requested on boot and got various messages. "Resize inode not valid. Recreate?" "Inode 17105 seems to contain garbage. Clear?" "Inode 17106 seems to contain garbage. Clear?" - I confirmed the first two22:14
rynakand not I suspect I might be doing something stupid. [Question]: What should I do? Clear a few inodes and hope the disk is fixed? Run testdisk to rescue data first?22:14
chandooDownloaded daily snapshot dates 2020-03-0722:14
leftyfb!mint | rynak22:14
ubotturynak: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)22:14
chandooBashing-om, reboot?22:14
Bashing-omchandoo: Yup, ' systemctl reboot ' . see what we have now for a normal boot :D22:15
chandoostuck at grey screen, i will give few mins22:16
chandoolooks like it is booting, but screen is not showing anything22:16
Bashing-omchandoo: :( should be only seconds.22:17
chandoowhen i do ctrl+Alt+Delete system reboots22:17
chandooBashing-om, then it is not booting22:17
Bashing-om!sysrq | chandoo22:17
ubottuchandoo: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key22:17
Bashing-omchandoo: I do not have MAC experience, but in bios do you have any graphics card options ?22:19
chandooBashing-om, i am not sure if i can go to bios in mac22:19
chandooi am first time user as well22:19
chandooi played with mac mini for few days and mac sucks, i decided to install ubunt onto it22:20
chandooi think all the necessary drivers are there, but grub doesn't have proper entries22:21
chandooi am not sure how to fix this22:21
Bashing-omchandoo: This is a 16.04 attempt ? Have you also tried a 18.04 release ?22:21
chandooi downloaded ubuntu this morning22:22
chandooubuntu mate22:22
chandoothe version i got is 18.04.4 LTS(Nionic)22:23
chandooBionic22:23
Bashing-omchandoo: boot issues: have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Macmini5-1/Precise for the Mac ?22:27
chandooyes22:28
chandooproduct name shows Macmini5,222:29
Bashing-omchandoo: rEFIt. is installed ?22:30
chandoono22:32
chandooi dont want multi boot22:32
chandooi erased macos and install ubuntu only22:32
zerixAnyone willing to offer assistance on how to install Audacious 4.0 Beta 1 on Kubuntu from a .tar.bz2 file? I can't find any repo's with the beta.  Problem is the Kubuntu media control widget doesnt work with stricter dbus traffic so the MPRIS 2 server plugin isn't working correctly22:33
SlidingHorn!source | zerix22:34
ubottuzerix: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html22:34
SlidingHornoops that's the wrong one, sorry22:34
SlidingHorn!build > zerix22:34
ubottuzerix, please see my private message22:34
chandoolsmod doesnt show any vga devices Bashing-om22:36
Bashing-omchandoo: Sorry - I do not have the experience here to say, I would expect that the Mac bios requires help to boot linux :(22:38
chandooBashing-om, thanks for all the comments22:41
Bashing-omchandoo: Await here for those who do know more about booting Macs.22:42
SlidingHornzerix: please keep your questions in the main chat22:45
zerixMakefile:8: extra.mk: No such file or directory22:45
zerixmake: *** No rule to make target 'extra.mk'.  Stop.22:45
zerixerrors when running make22:45
zerixtheres an extra.mk.in file in the directory though22:46
zerixhad to install gcc, make, autoconf i guess thats everything heh22:46
johnjbogle1hello. I am having troubles installing a new OS (feren) on my other laptop. I tried looking for an irc channel for feren, but couldn't find one. Does anyone know what irc channel I need to use for help installing Feren OS? Thanks.22:53
SlidingHornjohnjbogle1: /msg alis list feren22:55
johnjbogle1SlidingHorn: thanks, but nothing relative there. Any other channels that would be able to help me with installing it? (I believe FerenOS is derivative of Mint.)22:58
SlidingHornjohnjbogle1: try looking for options on their website...all I can really say22:59
johnjbogle1There is no irc channel listed on their site. Is there not a general linux-based support channel?23:01
SlidingHornjohnjbogle1: ##linux23:02
johnjbogle1There ya go, now that's a helpful answer. Thanks!23:03
chandooati drivers23:16
chandoowhere can i find xorg.conf23:22
jeremy31chando use terminal>  locate xorg.conf23:23
chandooI did that , i am not sure if it is the right one,23:24
chandooxorg.conf is in /usr/share/doc/intel23:24
chandoodocs say to look for /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf23:24
compdochave you recently added it?23:25
chandoosorry /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:25
compdocneed to do sudo updatedb23:25
Bashing-omchandoo: 18.04 has a change to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ .23:28

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