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| knome | jphilips, you mean like the press page we already have? | 08:49 |
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| knome | or something else? | 08:49 |
| jphilips | knome: yep that page looks fine. strange i had visited it before as it was in my history but didn't notice it in the menu when i was thinking about it | 08:52 |
| jphilips | did you want to add press entries for non LTS releases? | 08:53 |
| jphilips | now i remember, i was only looking under 'The Blog' thinking that it would have been under there. ;D | 08:55 |
| knome | yes, the goal is to have links for all releases if contributors have the time and energy | 08:55 |
| jphilips | knome: okay will rounds some up for you to copy and paste | 09:09 |
| knome | cheers | 09:09 |
| jphilips | does the new Super + D keyboard shortcut introduced with 19.10 work with anyone, as it doesn't for me on the 19.10 live cd or installed | 10:45 |
| jphilips | bluesabre: ^^^ | 10:45 |
| jphilips | tested it also in onboard and doesnt work their either | 10:48 |
| jphilips | brainwash: i visited https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs but there is no means to file a bug there | 10:50 |
| brainwash | as said earlier, it's a user/group | 10:51 |
| brainwash | not a package or project | 10:52 |
| jphilips | oh okay. so do we have a bug reporting url | 10:53 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ | 10:59 |
| knome | bugs should be filed against the specific projects | 10:59 |
| brainwash | or via cli "ubuntu-bug <package>" | 10:59 |
| jphilips | so which package is the shortcuts in so i can file the bug for the broken super + d shortcut | 11:02 |
| knome | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings probably | 11:03 |
| jphilips | thanks | 11:03 |
| jphilips | its would be nice to have a central bug reporting place like xfce | 11:05 |
| jphilips | it* would | 11:05 |
| knome | even in the xfce bugzilla you will have to select the product/project/app | 11:06 |
| jphilips | quite easy to do that | 11:07 |
| jphilips | its filed, can anyway confirm - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1866537 | 11:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1866537 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Show desktop shortcut doesnt work" [Undecided,New] | 11:08 |
| jphilips | knome: 19.10 press is done - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qenHqnop4DWne2DsX5nPgaN7xdJLzL6etb0gfBGL6fk/edit#heading=h.pwohkmbiulx1 | 12:12 |
| jphilips | brainwash: did you get to see my proposal for a welcome app - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2020-February/011866.html | 15:31 |
| jphilips | ochosi: when do you plan to announce the winners of the wallpaper contest. i see ubuntu studio announced theirs yesterday | 16:05 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | jphilips: We started ours (Ubuntu Studio) much earlier. | 16:06 |
| jphilips | Eickmeyer[m]: how long did it run for? | 16:06 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | jphilips: One month. | 16:06 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | ochosi might be doing it differently though. Can't use other team's methods as benchmarks. | 16:07 |
| knome | our contest is ran by a wordpress plugin that handles the submissions and voting, so there will be no overhead time used to move stuff around once we've closed submissions | 16:08 |
| jphilips | okay i see the announcement says that winners will be announced at the end of the month | 16:09 |
| jphilips | Eickmeyer[m]: was watching popey the other day look over ubuntu studio | 16:10 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | jphilips: I saw it afterwards. Sadly, it pointed out to me that I hadn't updated the default settings even though I thought I had. :D | 16:11 |
| jphilips | thats why we love testers :D | 16:13 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Indeed. :D | 16:13 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I would've caught it eventually, but I felt like a total bot in that moment. :D | 16:14 |
| jphilips | Eickmeyer[m]: let me know if you want me to kick the tires of it at any point | 16:19 |
| jphilips | knome: 19.04 reviews added to the doc | 16:27 |
| brainwash | jphilips: I still don't know if a welcome app is necessary. in any case, it's not very likely that one would make it into 20.04 (but I may be wrong). | 16:37 |
| knome | no way one will make it to 20.04 | 16:37 |
| knome | maybe a point release, but not sure how pointless (no pun intended) that would be | 16:38 |
| jphilips | brainwash: if most distros are doing it, there must be a benefit of it for new users. maybe some new contributors may stop by because of it. | 16:39 |
| brainwash | does stock ubuntu do it? | 16:43 |
| knome | tbh, that's bad argumentation | 16:43 |
| knome | "because everybody else does it, it must be good" | 16:43 |
| knome | also, while i think this could be definitely beneficial for some users, i don't think it's a tool (that should be used) for contributor luring | 16:44 |
| brainwash | don't the installer slides already inform about those things? | 16:46 |
| knome | yep | 16:47 |
| knome | we don't have any data on how many people actually sit on front of the screen looking at that though | 16:48 |
| brainwash | in any case, "someone" would have to work on that welcome app, then it could be tested | 16:48 |
| knome | yep | 16:48 |
| jphilips | brainwash: yes stock does as well | 17:01 |
| jphilips | but i think its more of a first start setup or something like that | 17:02 |
| jphilips | about the installer slides, yes that definitely might be helpful but not everyone will notice them or know that the underline text on the slides are clickable | 17:03 |
| brainwash | a brief tutorial? | 17:03 |
| brainwash | https://www.linuxbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/upgrade-ubuntu-17.04-to-18.04-command-line.png | 17:05 |
| jphilips | found it https://youtu.be/YOUwdhNbHtk?t=1409 | 17:07 |
| jphilips | was watching popey | 17:07 |
| jphilips | but yes that 'what's new in ubuntu' would be another example of ubuntu introducing users to itself | 17:08 |
| jphilips | guess i should download and install 18.04 to see what different slides are in the what's new dialog | 17:09 |
| jphilips | guess for users who are upgrading from unity to then get the shock of gnome, you'd definitely need a what's new dialog | 17:10 |
| jphilips | okay found it - https://youtu.be/ONXfL6evR0Q?t=69 | 17:11 |
| jphilips | guess its the same as popey's accept for the first slide | 17:13 |
| jphilips | if you look in popey's video it says in the top bar 'Welcome to Ubuntu' but the CSD top bar says 'Online Accounts' which confused me till now | 17:14 |
| -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-power-manager 1.6.6 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-power-manager-1-6-6-released-tp57659.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 21:36 | |
| ochosi | JackFrost: since it's just bugfix i guess this is still ok to go into 20.04? ^ | 21:40 |
| JackFrost | We're behind with a few releases actually, but I'd think so (not having seen the changelog yet.) | 21:41 |
| ochosi | it's rather short :) | 21:43 |
| ochosi | really? where are we at? | 21:43 |
| ochosi | and why | 21:44 |
| ochosi | oh, we're at 1.6.5, that's alright | 21:44 |
| ochosi | or what did you mean exactly? | 21:44 |
| ochosi | (or did you refer to my comment in the other channel?) | 21:45 |
| JackFrost | -settings and -session I think are also behind, with others (listed on xfce414.html page.) | 21:49 |
| ochosi | i was considering doing another for settings and panel | 21:50 |
| JackFrost | xfburn, clipman, -settings, -session. | 21:54 |
| ochosi | could we get the latter three updated at least? | 21:55 |
| ochosi | (if i promise to take care of statusnotifier) | 21:59 |
| JackFrost | Heh, it's the last two I don't like touching. :P | 22:01 |
| JackFrost | Specifically, session. | 22:01 |
| ochosi | really? why? | 22:03 |
| ochosi | it's not exactly containing invasive changes | 22:03 |
| ochosi | ("fix crash at logout" sounds re-assuring, no? :)) | 22:03 |
| -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin 0.2.2 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin-0-2-2-released-tp57661.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 22:07 | |
| JackFrost | :o | 22:39 |
| JackFrost | ochosi: There just seems like a lot of cruft in the packaging bit, upstart leftovers that we didn't add. | 22:39 |
| ochosi | oh | 22:40 |
| ochosi | right, i'm obviously not aware of the packaging part | 22:40 |
| JackFrost | And run-systemd-session was never my favorite. :3 | 22:42 |
| JackFrost | (Bottom of http://deriv.debian.net/Ubuntu/patches/x/xfce4-session/xfce4-session_4.13.1-2_xfce4-session_4.13.2-0ubuntu1.debian.patch) | 22:42 |
| ochosi | not much i can do to help there i guess | 22:44 |
| JackFrost | Nope, never said it was your fault. :D | 22:45 |
| JackFrost | ...But if it makes you feel better I guess we could blame you..? | 22:45 |
| ochosi | haha | 22:45 |
| ochosi | rather not | 22:45 |
| ochosi | i just hope all the work i put into doing 4.14 patch releases ends up in the distro i use :> | 22:45 |
| ochosi | (i think compared to 4.12 we're doing a pretty great job already) | 22:46 |
| ochosi | (or 4.10) | 22:47 |
| JackFrost | Doing -settings now. | 22:49 |
| ochosi | \o/ | 22:51 |
| JackFrost | Done. | 22:51 |
| ochosi | oh also - xfdesktop | 22:52 |
| ochosi | we're still on 4.14.1 in focal | 22:52 |
| JackFrost | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/4.14.2-1? | 22:54 |
| JackFrost | !info xfdesktop4 focal | 22:54 |
| ubottu | xfdesktop4 (source: xfdesktop4): Xfce desktop background, icons and root menu manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14.2-1 (focal), package size 159 kB, installed size 679 kB | 22:54 |
| ochosi | ok weird, my bad | 22:54 |
| JackFrost | https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce414.html | 22:55 |
| ochosi | somehow packages.ubuntu tricked me (i guess i forgot to reset the dropdown for the distro version one time) | 22:55 |
| JackFrost | Ah, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/SOURCEPACKAGE is a better view. | 22:55 |
| JackFrost | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/wealias/ : alias = uts, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/%s | 22:56 |
| JackFrost | alias = pts, https://packages.qa.debian.org/%s | 22:56 |
| JackFrost | alias = npts, https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/%s | 22:56 |
| ochosi | mm, nice | 22:56 |
| ochosi | woot, debian already switched to a few 4.15 releases?? | 22:57 |
| ochosi | (i guess this is exp) | 22:58 |
| ochosi | (not testing) | 22:58 |
| JackFrost | Experimental, indeed. | 22:58 |
| ochosi | alrighty, time to call it a night.. | 22:59 |
| ochosi | thanks for picking up settings, xfpm, statusnotifier and clipman! | 22:59 |
| ochosi | ;D | 22:59 |
| JackFrost | I'm actually looking at xfburn. :P | 23:01 |
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