[00:34] Morning [00:35] Linux noob. Can someone help guide to upgrade kernel please [00:37] !hwe | Coraxyn [00:37] Coraxyn: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [00:37] *click* [00:42] E: Unable to locate package linux-generic-hwe-18.04 [00:44] Coraxyn: What shows ' lsb_release -a ' ? [00:44] Rebooting. Moment pleaswe [00:44] And thanks Bashing. Been trying to get new system up for 3 days [00:44] brb [00:51] Bashing No LSB modules are available [00:51] Bashing Distribution ID: Ubuntu 19.10 [00:51] Bashing Release 19.10 [00:52] Codename: eoan [00:52] Coraxyn: ^ "existing LTS releases, see [00:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [00:52] Coraxyn: Sorry bad paste :( [00:52] Mm? [00:53] Coraxyn: ^ " existing LTS releases" --- 19.10 is not LTS. What is the issue you have in installing 19.10 ? [00:54] 19.10 work except for graphics [00:54] Running at 1024x768 [00:55] And keep getting 'connection failed. Activation of network connection failed' windows [00:55] Have RX5500 XT and 4k monitor [00:56] Bashing, browser works [00:57] Am on diferent machine here (iMac) [00:57] Coraxyn: Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display '. Let's know then what we are working with. [01:01] Um [01:03] Coraxyn: Like ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . The result is a URL back in terminal. Pass that link back here. [01:07] Maybe https://pastebin.com/f4iGXY47 ? [01:07] Never done this before [01:10] !who | Coraxyn All a process of learning [01:10] Coraxyn All a process of learning: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [01:11] Coraxyn: Bas to complete :D [01:13] Bashing-om: OMG! [01:13] ;) [01:14] Bashing-om: This: https://i.imgur.com/cuhaPST.jpg [01:14] Coraxyn: Yukkie - no wonder display issues as there is "*-display UNCLAIMED". *BUT* AMD drivers are now in the kernel. Is this a nice fresh install of 19.10 ? [01:16] Bashing-om: Yes, this 8th time tried to install. Going on net and trying what is said usually ends up with total hang or text about recovering journal. Clean, then hang [01:17] I see that Ubuntu is improved, but i am wondering why cannot Ubuntu fix bugs first. If all bugs are fixed, than can Ubuntu available a newest version? [01:17] Bashing-om: Think am on kernel 4.3? No AMD drivers [01:18] <|izzie> hi, i ran update and got a bunch of these: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1 [01:18] <|izzie> is that cause for concern? [01:18] zippo^: 3700X, 32GB, RX5500 XT [01:18] Coraxyn: Drivers for sure are in the kernel. Installing from a USB device ? [01:18] Bashing-om: Yes [01:19] what is this, Coraxyn ? [01:19] Bashing-om: Install goes ok, except for graphics [01:19] Coraxyn: Back to the foundation, did you verify the .iso and confirm the copy ? [01:19] zippo^: Machine am trying to bring up: https://i.imgur.com/cuhaPST.jpg [01:20] Bashing-om: No idea what you mean [01:20] !md5sum | Coraxyn [01:20] Coraxyn: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [01:21] hello everybody, Jinja2 question: i know i can strip whitespaces with - ex. {%- -%} but i have a lot of statements let {% set var1 = .... %} etc... is there a way to strip extra whitespaces automatically? [01:21] without use the minus everywhere ? [01:24] ubbotu, cannoot see thumb drive in /media [01:25] Bashing-om: No such file or directory [01:25] Thumb is plugged in [01:25] Bashing-om: Thumb is in [01:25] *facedesk* [01:27] Coraxyn: Let's say that the .iso file is in the Downloads/ directory, 'ls -al Downloads' to get the file name, then: ' md5sum Downloads/.iso ' . compare that result to the posted md5sum where you got the .iso file from. [01:28] Coraxyn: I do know that by now you are frustrated and worried - but we do this by the numbers as a path to getting you up and running :D [01:29] Cannot get to thumb drive [01:29] Oh poo. brb [01:30] Coraxyn: How did you make up the thumb drive ? the md5sum source will not reside on that USB drive - rather where you made the installer up from. [01:34] Bashing-om: On this iMac (that always works;) [01:34] Bashing-om: DLed image and flashed it to thumb [01:35] Coraxyn: :( Is the machine that you are attempting to install ubuntu on also a MAC ? [01:36] Bashing-om: sorry for frequent BRBs. Picked something up in some jungle in Central America or Caribbean. Every couple weeks get 24 hours of gallons of chocolatey goodness [01:37] Bashing-om: No. Trying to bring up brand new machine just had built [01:37] CDN 3K :| [01:37] Coraxyn: I got the crud here too ,, makes thinking a forced issue - attempting to quit smoking sure does not help the focus :P [01:39] Bashing-om: Tried to quit smoking as well. But after killing several people police gave YT carton of ciggies :) [01:40] Coraxyn: Let do it like this. Boot the liveUSB on the CDN 3K, as soon as the bios screen clears depress the escape key -> language screen; esc key to accept the default -> boot menu; select " check disk for defects" . [01:40] * |izzie wonders if all the folks quitting were ALSO awaiting rsponses to their questions. [01:40] k [01:42] Bashing-om: Umm, am in grub 0.0 [01:43] Bashing-om: This: https://www.flickr.com/photos/coraxyn/6846852593/in/album-72157604114781638/ [01:43] Coraxyn: Yukkie - We do want a boot menu .. not grub. Maybe I have to verify my memory - shut down boot up a live environment, and come back to aid ? [01:45] Coraxyn: Never saw a leafhopper as a splash .. attempting to boot ubuntu 19.10 ? [01:49] Bashing-om: This: https://www.flickr.com/photos/coraxyn/6227933052/in/album-72157604114781638/ [01:50] Booting [01:50] Bashing-om: During boot there i long pause with blankscreen, blinking cursor, then eventually boot [01:51] Coraxyn: Not a clue what you are actually booting .. verify in bios what you think is set to boot ? [01:52] Bashing-om: In Ubuntu now [01:52] Bashing-om: Will check boot sequence later [01:52] Bashing-om: Getting all these 'connection failed' pop-ups [01:53] Bashing-om: But Firefox works.... [01:55] Bashing-om: Will check boot sequence [01:56] Coraxyn: Still think worth the effort to verify that installed - but graphics: what shows - lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - ? [02:00] Moment pleaswe [02:02] Bashing-om: Ubuntu screen with 4 dots, then LONG black screen, then login [02:05] Bashing-om: 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controler: AMD ... device 7349 (rev c5) [02:05] Bashing-om: Subsystem: Sapire .... device e421 [02:06] Bashing-om: Then talks about audio [02:06] Oops, Saphire [02:09] Bashing-om: Do not try this at home: https://www.flickr.com/photos/coraxyn/5615909311/in/album-72157604114781638/ [02:09] Coraxyn: Yukkie on me - I just do not have the AMD experience to know how to identify that card :( [02:09] Thank you for your help [02:12] <|izzie> hi, i ran update and got a bunch of these: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1 [02:12] <|izzie> is that cause for concern? [02:15] |izzie: Yup - need to remove the duplicate from /etc/apt/sources.list that is also in the .d - 3rd party direcxtory. [02:16] <|izzie> ah, Bashin-om, thanks. [02:16] <|izzie> ah, Bashing-om , thanks. [02:17] |izzie: :D - Let us know if you require further assistance, === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [02:25] * Coraxyn walks around room with face dragging on carpet [02:40] <|izzie> i have paired my bluetooth headphones, but i cannot get it to stay connected === zbenjamin is now known as Guest43163 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone [03:11] <|izzie> trying to install pulseaudio, but get: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [03:11] <|izzie> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) but 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 is to be installed [03:11] <|izzie> Depends: pulseaudio (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) [03:11] <|izzie> how do i fix that? [03:11] |izzie: did you install packages with external ppa's on your system? [03:13] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: yes [03:13] |izzie: as we dont advice & support external ppa's we advice to purge your ppa's first, make apt clean again [03:14] !ppapurge | |izzie [03:14] |izzie: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [03:14] <|izzie> thanks, ubottu and lotuspsychje [03:21] |izzie: after ppa cleaning, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [03:26] hey |izzie [03:26] why are trying to install pulseaudio [03:26] it is installed by default in ubuntu [03:47] How can I determine what process is trying to connect to a port? [03:48] It's on the same machine. [03:48] <|izzie> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [03:48] <|izzie> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) but 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 is to be installed [03:48] <|izzie> Depends: pulseaudio (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) [03:49] |izzie: plz dont repeat [03:50] <|izzie> i've beeen away, lotuspsychje ...there were no ppas [03:50] |izzie: can you plz pastebin the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ? [03:54] <|izzie> one sec [03:57] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/ZT1iwXEj [03:58] |izzie: thats not the complete output? no more apt errors at the end? [03:58] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: no [03:59] Hi friends, my Ubuntu system is freezing on the launch of the first app [04:00] It happened first with Skype so i removed it. But it's happening again with the very first app I launch [04:01] hey |izzie isnt pulseaudio installed by default on ubuntu? [04:01] |izzie: sudo apt purge pulseaudio and sudo apt install pulseaudio and pastebin the whole output plz [04:01] hello lotus [04:05] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/yYxs5eup [04:08] |izzie: sudo apt autoremove [04:12] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: zeros all across [04:13] |izzie: wich ubuntu version is this? [04:14] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: 18.04 [04:14] !info libpulse0 bionic [04:14] libpulse0 (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio client libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 (bionic), package size 258 kB, installed size 999 kB [04:15] hmm, looks like the correct version [04:15] but it wants to install 7.5 [04:15] <|izzie> yeah [04:15] |izzie: you real sure you dont have ppa's? [04:16] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: i went to software & updates and looked under other software [04:16] check sources.list.d too [04:19] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: nada [04:19] ok tnx for checking [04:19] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: one sec.. let me check again. [04:20] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: nope, nada [04:20] |izzie: sounds like bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1860622 [04:20] Launchpad bug 1860622 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Dependency error installing pulseaudio-esound-compat" [Undecided,Fix committed] [04:22] not sure why it still does it, when fix committed [04:22] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: how do i do the manual install? [04:24] |izzie: i would not reccomend to, think this one is best to wait till updates came in [04:24] <|izzie> dayum [04:24] another bug #1858164 aswell [04:24] bug 1858164 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "libpulse-dev needs a rebuild for libpulse0-1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 on bionic-updates" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858164 [04:26] <|izzie> so, the fix is committed... how much longer should it be? [04:26] <|izzie> lotuspsychje: thanks for all your help [04:26] not sure |izzie i will ask around for you today, talk to some devs [04:26] <|izzie> *beam* thankee [04:32] bonjour [04:32] it is the current version. [04:32] lotuspsychje, when I copy files or load an app I can barely move the mouse cursor [04:32] I have an issue with a notebook running ubuntu [04:32] lotuspsychje, when I copy files or load an app I can barely move the mouse cursor [04:32] dont do that plz OERIAS [04:33] ask your question with all details, then patiently wait for volunteers that can help [05:00] Hello!I use the he-media to install ubuntu but it didn't find the iso?Someone known? [05:00] HD-media [05:01] it only found the debian iso but the ubuntu iso [05:05] how can i modify the file to recognize the ubuntu iso? [05:07] Hi all. I want to experiment with metasploit. ms requires postgresql. If I do 'systemctl status postgresql' it appears that a service called postgresql.service is installed and running. But I don't seem to have any client tooling. From the terminal, I get no completions from "postgres" [05:08] I feel like I'm getting mixed messages from my system. I can't tell if postgres is installed or not. The installation process for metasploit seems to think that postgresql isn't active on my system === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === subdavis8 is now known as subdavis === Plasmoduck is now known as plasmod [07:04] Some of my programs have no icon. How would I go about creating an icon for eg. jalv.gtk ? [07:17] Mu Ubuntu machine is freezing frequently [07:17] My* [07:18] Any idea on how the android auto restarts the ui after it hangs? [07:23] Croran: https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-desktop-file-linux/ [08:01] bobdobbs: the postgresql command line tool is "psql" === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [08:58] Hi. I'm currently facing some issues on installing apt-listchanges on 18.04. My problem boils down to (I think) a version mismatch for dependency python3-debconf, wich in turn depends on debconf 1.5.66 but the only available debconf from archive is 1.5.66ubuntu1. dpkg fails to install. [08:58] Can someone verify that? [08:59] Sprinterfreak: did you add external ppa's to your system? [08:59] No. fresh install [08:59] Sprinterfreak: could you pastebin the output from the full apt errors of that please? volunteers can take a look at it [09:14] lotuspsychje: not that easy, all firewalled down here. But basicly a clean install just with mirror de.archive.ubuntu.com main restricted universe multiverse and similar security.ubuntu.com sources === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [09:26] Can't install apt python3-debconf. apt show python3-debconf shows clearly "Depends: debconf (= 1.5.66), ..." wich does not match the only available debconf 1.5.66ubuntu1 [09:27] did you run apt update && apt dist-upgrade properly? [09:33] oerheks: its a fresh install from netinstall cd. Firstboot [09:35] Sprinterfreak, so, run updates properly: sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot [09:36] then go do your thingy [10:12] Hi [10:13] hello [10:14] Which git/bzr branch is Ubuntu Arm64's debian-installer used in 18.04 LTS? [10:15] oerheks: yea. Done that. No luck. Nothing to install. But the key was that I had updates archive configured during install wich got disabled by cloud-init afterwards. [10:15] So dont check updates during install solves that [10:17] on x84, I do "git clone -b applied/20101020ubuntu541 https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer", then "make build_cdrom_isolinux" in build directory. [10:18] on arm64, however, "make build_cdrom_isolinux" returns immediately without compiling. === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === laerlingSAP is now known as laerling2 [10:39] I have a slave bind9 on ubuntu and all seems to work fine however the status shows: dumping master file: tmp-049JpU4wE3: open: permission denied - what am I missing here? [11:19] Hiyas all === zenguy is now known as coffeeguy === pikapika_lunar_a is now known as pikapika [13:38] Morning [13:40] Quick question. Have driver for Intel Wifi: iwlwifi-3168-22.ucode downloaded. How to install? [13:40] Coraxyn: Are you certain the card is not already detected by Ubuntu? [13:41] *if* you have troubles, try the backported driver, not a download from intel > https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi [13:41] it is build officially from git [13:42] oerheks: Thanks :) [13:43] Coraxyn, you know that's the firmware and not the driver (module), right ? [13:47] ioria. This is day 3 of Linux, so no :) [13:48] Coraxyn: Ubuntu 18.04 already has that firmware available [13:48] Coraxyn: you don't need to do anything [13:48] Coraxyn, cat /etc/issue [13:48] And only have net connection via this machine [13:49] Folks, had to upgrade to kernel 5.5.8 to get GPU to work. It now does but have lost Wifi [13:49] Coraxyn: kernel 5.5.8 is not supported here [13:49] Coraxyn, day 3 of Linux and you use a not supported kernel [13:49] Coraxyn: what version of ubuntu are you running and what other kernels did you try? [13:50] Ubuntu 19.10 with kernel 5.5.8 [13:50] Normal kernel did not support RX5500 XT GPU [13:51] Coraxyn, apt-cache policy linux-firmware | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:51] In 18.04 or 19.10 [13:51] I see TJ and Bashing-om were helping him yesterday [13:51] oh, ok [13:51] Yes [13:52] Tried getting AMD driver installed couple times, but that failed, so went to later kernel. Which works for GPU [13:52] Coraxyn: your wifi stopped working because you installed an unsupported kernel and are now missing the modules/modules-extra packages that go along with kernels [13:52] Coraxyn: what other kernel versions did you try? [13:53] leftyfb, ah, good spot [13:53] leftyfb: Kernel 3.4? One that comes with 18.04 and 19.10 [13:53] Coraxyn: where did you get this new kernel? [13:54] leftyfb: Forget :| [13:54] Still have 18.04 and 19.10 iso's around [13:54] Coraxyn: apt list |grep linux-image # please pastebin the output of this [13:55] it seems i can't print pdf's in okular...works in firefox, works in evince, works in libreoffice, so...? [13:55] Coraxyn, btw, /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3168-22.ucode is provided by the linux-firmware package [13:55] today we got an firmwareupdate too [13:55] ioria: yup, already been established :) [13:57] leftyfb: Long list. Linux machine does not have connection to net. 5.58, lots of 5.3.0-x5.0.0'ss 4.15.0's [13:57] oerheks: I got that update on the 1st of the month [13:57] Coraxyn: what is the name of the 5.58 package? [13:58] i'm not even sure what question to ask on that [13:58] leftyfb: Some Animal. Would recognize name if see it [13:58] Coraxyn: Please type out the exact name [13:58] Ukuu? [13:58] Nope [14:01] leftyfb: Do not remember it :| [14:01] Might have to download the linux-modules for the kernel from where you got the rest, possibly https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.5.8/ [14:01] leftyfb, i am on bionic, still .. and regular updated [14:02] hmmm [14:02] Coraxyn: I'm not asking you to remember it. I'm asking you to type out the name of the package with 5.5.8 in the name that got listed when you typed: apt list |grep linux-image [14:02] brb [14:02] Ah [14:02] oerheks: oh right, sorry, I have proposed enabled [14:03] jeremy31: this is what I'm working towards [14:03] HddenDjinn: I have the same issue and just ended up switching the default PDF viwer to evince [14:03] 5.5.8-050508-generic/now 5.5.8-050508.202003051633 amd64 [installed,local] [14:04] pragmaticenigma, another issue i've found is i can't seem to get my fingerprint reader to do anything useful when plasma is my desktop...using xfce atm [14:05] ok, you'll need to download this file https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.5.8/linux-modules-5.5.8-050508-generic_5.5.8-050508.202003051633_amd64.deb onto a usb drive or something, copy it to your computer running ubuntu and install it with: dpkg -i linux-modules-5.5.8-050508-generic_5.5.8-050508.202003051633_amd64.deb [14:06] HddenDjinn: I'm not familiar with Fingerprint readers [14:07] pragmaticenigma, well, with lightdm and xfce, i can use the fingerprint reader to auth for sudo or unlock the desktop, but to login, i still enter password [14:07] HddenDjinn, check https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint and https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html if your device is supported [14:08] oh, it works..\ [14:08] oerheks, yeah, it works, but i'm not about configuring it for plasma or sddm on 18.04 [14:09] not sure about configuring it, though [14:09] leftyfb: Ok [14:15] i'm setting a static ip through netplan and it works... initially [14:15] after about 5 minutes something channges my IP - any idea what this could be? [14:15] just one file in /etc/netplan ? [14:16] with near the begining renderer: networkd ? [14:16] looking now.... [14:16] without dhcp yes of course [14:16] yes and yes [14:16] single file and networkd [14:17] leftyfb: Done. Reboot? [14:18] malwar3hun73r_: perhaps if you paste your conf file, but it strange [14:19] i can, but there's nothing to it [14:19] maybe an old lease in your router taking over? changing ip is not a good thing [14:19] if it's not dhcp but manual setting, [14:19] leftyfb: lots of iwlwifi messages on boot. Very long pause [14:20] https://pastebin.com/HMBMDuRW Ool [14:20] addresses you need to put your netmask usually /24 not /32 [14:21] but for me nothing to do with your pb [14:22] leftyfb: No WiFi adapter found [14:22] Ool, i want a single static IP [14:22] what's a command that doesn't do a heck of a lot (and is an actual program, not a built-in) that just returns true/false or something? I just need to write tests for a process runner, but can't come up with a nice command (currently using 'ls' but that's a bit noisy) [14:23] banisterfiend: true and false [14:23] malwar3hun73r_: yes but it's wrong like that, your machine need to have a gateway on the same nbetwork [14:23] leftyfb aren't they built-ins ? they seem to be built-ins for me [14:23] your interface name is eth0, sure ? [14:23] banisterfiend: what's wrong with them being "built-in"? [14:23] leftyfb cos i'm testing a process runner, so i'm actually exec()ing the program.. :/ [14:24] banisterfiend: they are both in /bin/ [14:24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netmask [14:24] HddenDjinn: If I had to guess.. it sounds like a similar issue that prevents me from being able to setup vnc-server to show me the lock screen. I can only enable vnc after successful login. The recommended workaround has been to use lightdm instead. [14:24] Ool, they are on same netblock [14:24] and, yes, interface is eth0 [14:25] what's strange is that netplan apply works and sets everything correctly, but after some time something changes it to another IP [14:30] malwar3hun73r_, netplan is type sensitive, i see you pasted https://pastebin.com/HMBMDuRW with eth0 on line 7, should be on 6 too .. [14:31] or not .. [14:32] so,i've noticed that /etc/network/interfaces is set to dhcp on eth0 - is something causing it to read that every 5-10 minutes? [14:40] ok, not sure what's going on, but it looks like it's using netplan on boot then defaulting back to /etc/network/interfaces after 5 min or so [14:41] Coraxyn: I think it's due to missing the modules-extra package which isn't available for the mainline kernel. === DarkNetSplit is now known as not-SPLIT-now [14:51] you have both netplan and ifupdown package ? [14:51] for me you need to have just on of them [14:52] and nothing without a # in /etc/network/interfaces [14:54] leftyfb: Ok, thank you for your help [15:28] is there a page that lists all the security issues with running ubuntu 14.04LTS ? [15:29] chainz, there is only one [15:29] !14.04 [15:29] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade [15:29] End Of lLife [15:30] understood [15:30] i need to provide a business case [15:30] eg, a list of specific vulnerabilities/problems with running ubuntu 14.04 [15:31] all patches after 4-2019 are not applied [15:33] Ha ryzen el kezded lehet [15:33] pcx nem rossz [15:33] chainz: You can start with, it is no longer supported. There are no updates, the kernel is subject to any and all vulnerabilities released as CVEs since 2019 which presently amounts to 50 rated high-risk [15:34] lots of info .. https://usn.ubuntu.com/ [15:34] chainz: Also, the platform is only supported through Canonicals ESM program. For further assistance, you will have to have an agreement and receive support through the ESM prorgam. [15:34] chainz: which means further discussion here is offtopic [15:35] !english | takov751 [15:35] takov751: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [15:35] pragmaticenigma: that is not true. ESM is free for ubuntu members for 14.04. I am receiving updates to 2 different 14.04 servers [15:35] pragmaticenigma: we've already mentioned that to the product manager. they need specifics [15:35] though, it is unsupported here [15:35] ubottu: Sorry It was a typo. I started writing in the wrong channel. [15:35] takov751: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:35] damn [15:35] chathere is not actual list, you need to make it yourself with https://usn.ubuntu.com/ [15:36] err chainz ^^ [15:36] they want to know what we are currently gaining by moving to say, ubuntu 18.04 [15:36] ok, so any CVE's since april of 2019 [15:36] chainz: support ;) [15:37] chainz: are you the chains from EFnet? [15:37] yep [15:37] chainz: They gain support, all the software provided to them through Ubuntu's software repos will be patched against known threats [15:38] leftyfb: yes [15:38] pragmaticenigma: this is all stuff i've already told them. i do think the list here is enough though from the link oerheks provided [15:39] chainz: To put it bluntly... do they really really want to be the next Equifax? [15:39] pragmaticenigma: you're preaching to the choir. i need details. very specific details [15:39] pragmaticenigma: bah, they will just blame it on chainz! easy peasy [15:40] guess i'm going to have to parse this list and see where/how it relates to the current environment [15:40] dtomato: exactly [15:42] hi there [15:42] talking about old releases... [15:42] The repo ddebs.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates seems to be broken === genii_ is now known as genii [15:43] apt-get says "Writing more data than expected (2785741 > 2785166)" [15:43] j1elo: 14.04 is not supported here... only 16.04, 18.04 and 19.10 [15:43] The 2785166 comes from here: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/xenial-updates/Release but the actual Packages file seems to be a different size [15:43] unless I've got much releases mixed up [15:43] Sorry, talking about Xenial = 16.04 [15:44] About the debug packages repository for 16.04 [15:44] The repo is probably undergoing a sync... try it again a couple hours [15:45] Ok I'll try later [15:45] thanks [15:45] apologies for the mix up on releases j1elo ... I work better with numbers [15:47] j1elo: you could ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for known repo issues [15:47] Oh nice, didn't know about that channel [15:47] With Ubuntu's netplan -- What is the programmatic (from the command line) way to set DHCP on/off and if off, a static IP address -- without editing the yaml file? I'm hoping there is one. I'd like to be able to set this from the command line instead of via file manipulation from a script. [15:48] I'll go there to ask because my colleage says it's been like that all weekend [15:50] JC_SoCal: good question? a set of templates that generates the netplan file? isn't it possible to set netplan to hand of configuration to other systems (network manager etc?) [15:50] @dtomato I'm not sure I understand what you are saying [15:51] well, I'm assuming what you want to avoid is "sed"ing the netplan config to change the value you want? [15:51] dtomato: indeed [15:52] Why not create two config files... and use a bash script to simply swap the files and trigger the netplan refresh? [15:53] same sort of idea, basically "re-generate" (from scratch or swapping files) your netplan configs [15:53] I'm thinking of migrating my XPS 13 to ubuntu and using Dell's flavor of linux-but I'm having trouble on deciding if i should just go base flavor of ubuntu. Would anyone recommend Dells flavor over Canonical? *Also if you're a gamer how does going with linux over windows work for xbox integration? [15:53] thats definitely a possible solution, but it wouldn't prevent me from sedding -- the problem isn't switching just from dhcp to a specifc ip, it also updating the ip address as well [16:02] Hi there! I come with a problem on my display/wifi drivers. I have a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation at work, and with kernel 4.15.0-88,I have support for dual displays but building the wifi drivers locally gives me an unstable kernel for odd reasons (boot loop). With 4.15.18, building the wifi drivers locally works, however, i lose dual [16:02] screen-support. In fact, I have tried kernel versions 4.15.0-45 till 4.15.17 and all lack the dual screen support(not sure about the wifi drivers). I have no GPU, just the integrated graphics on an i7-9700, with the driver shown as LLVMPipe 6.0. Would anyone have any tips for me on how I could get dual-screen support? [16:04] eraserpencil: why did you install 16.04 fresh as opposed to 18.04? [16:04] work requires 16.04 [16:05] Then work should be providing you with support... don't you think? [16:05] just what I was going to say :D [16:06] I mean 16.04 is still supported this month... next month not so much [16:06] 16+5 = 21 [16:07] I thought it was 4 years [16:07] makr8100: 16.04 is supported through next year [16:07] Well that's comforting at least, we have several dozen workstations plus 1 server still on 16.04, other server is 18.04 [16:08] we have a few workstations on lubuntu 15 and that makes me sad [16:08] 15 … [16:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [16:10] hence, "that makes me sad" [16:11] Oh I forgot our crappy server still running 14.04 for a production database/web app [16:12] We're porting that web app elsewhere 1 module at a time tho, and when the web app is moved the db will be relocated [16:12] this is not the place for chit chat, lets go back to support please [16:16] haha well, its a small company, so support aint there, hence im coming here [16:19] no gpu ( card) .. so your motherboard has 2 videoports? can you describe it ? [16:19] yea, 1 HDMI and one VGA [16:19] which is how i connect to each monitor [16:21] any setting in the bios, that prevents one port? [16:21] i didnt check that, but dosent seem so cause with kernel version 4.15.0-88, i could have dual screen [16:21] some have igp - descrete graphics settings [16:22] oh oke, it worked before. [16:22] both screen works, its just having both screen mirrored [16:22] no option to unmirror them [16:27] eraserpencil: Without knowing how you fixed the wifi, if this is all intel chipsets, it's likely the instructions followed for getting wifi didn't account for the graphics setup [16:27] should i share how i fixed the wifi too? [16:28] it wouldn't matter, as compiled applications/softwares are not supported here [16:28] eraserpencil: Reverse the changes, and if your screens come back to normal operation, then you know it's whatever you did with the WiFi [16:30] well, actually, it wasnt the wifi. It really was the kernel. So I've beenplaying around different setup configs, in one of them I tested 4.15.18 without the wifi-drivers and dual screen didnt work [16:31] eraserpencil: If you're not running the kernels available in the Ubuntu repos... you're not supportable here... [16:32] how do you install nm-connection-editor in 18.04? [16:32] hmmm [16:32] I used Ukuu for the kernel install. I thought it was supported by Ubuntu. [16:32] where do I find the official kernel supports? [16:33] zetheroo, network-manager-gnome [16:34] i tried to install fr24feed, and since then whenever i have an rtl2862u device connected to usb, i cant boot [16:34] if i unplug it, it boots fine [16:34] so i tried to apt remove it, but still same stuff [16:34] ioria: ok thanks [16:35] ok [16:35] dakar, it is a snap, no? fr24feed https://snapcraft.io/fr24feed [16:37] eraserpencil: We can keep going down this rabbit hole... or you can get your machine back to a stock state, and then come back for assistance on getting the wifi working. Ukuu is not a sanctioned application, it's not available in the Ubuntu software repos. There is no way to determine where it is finding kernels to install or if those kernels aren't intended for other purposes. [16:37] ukuu is paid now :-( [16:37] no support [16:37] lol, what's "ukuu"? [16:38] reboot, hold shift, and take the normal kernel [16:38] oerheks i used their apt repo, so idk. im not really sure what snap is. [16:38] but i booted with the usb stuff unplugged, apt removed it already, but still same stuff [16:39] dakar, i gave the url.. [16:39] !snap [16:39] Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io [16:39] i guess it's not a snap then, no [16:39] in Xenial, NetworkManager seems to have this annoying quirk to disable all Wifi as soon as I rfkill block one antenna. is there a way to make it accept different antennae having different rfkill block states? [16:40] that's actually my setup atm. I am running stock cause I favored dual screen over wifi support. I use a wifi dongle instead for now. [16:40]