[08:43] <santa_> good morning
[08:44] <santa_> RikMills: I have seen there is a few bad applications debian syncs (removing our changelog, wrong Vcs-* fields, bad changes from debian...)
[08:46] <santa_> RikMills: so I would like to fix these in the next few days, I'm going to do juk now
[08:54] <santa_> oh, great
[08:54] <santa_> they are not even tagging the uploads properly or using wrap-and-sort consistently
[09:46] <santa_> RikMills: juk "proper debian merge" pushed to staging, no need to upload if you don't want to, because the changes are not extremely important
[09:47] <santa_> another case of this is yakuake, that one would need upload because it has a bad debian patch to "fix" the version
[09:48] <santa_> anyway, I have to go now. have a nice day everybody :)
[10:50] <RikMills> the whole point of a syc is that it drops trivial delta
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:51] <santa_> RikMills: well, I don't think it's nice to drop our changelogs, for example
[11:53] <santa_> ... or import this "wonderful" patch from debian: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/yakuake/-/blob/master/debian/patches/fix-upstream-version-in-about-dialog
[11:53] <RikMills> that happens when anything gets back in sync with debian
[11:53] <RikMills> yeah, I agree on that patch!
[11:54] <RikMills> I'll sort that in a bit
[11:55] <santa_> are you going to remove the patch?
[11:55] <RikMills> I wonder if there is a KDE bug on that hardcoded version?
[11:55] <RikMills> yep
[11:55] <santa_> I think it's much better to merge things in git rather than doing this poor debian syncs
[11:56] <santa_> also syncing we don't have the git history
[11:56] <santa_> I doin't think this is the proper way to handle a debian merge at all
[11:56] <santa_> * don't
[11:56] <RikMills> I have been merging the git when it has been pushed. just they are slow at it sometimes
[11:58] <santa_> yeah, well. debian's "bright individuals". I have had that problem too
[11:58] <santa_> but please, try to avoid this kind of syncs as much as possible
[11:59] <santa_> if you don't have time or need help, please just give me a ping
[11:59] <santa_> if I knew about yakuake I would have fixed it in KDE
[12:05] <BluesKaj> I have an odd issue. Alsamixer doesn't appear in the terminal when prompted, the result is: "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" The audio still works fine and alsamixer still resides in /usr/bin. This is on my Focal pc. My Focal laptop doesn't have this issue.
[12:06] <RikMills> I don't see much point doing a delta when all it would be is "Kubuntu Vcs fields"
[12:08] <santa_> well, you are also dropping our changelog
[12:09] <santa_> also, let's supose I want to review debian's imported changes...
[12:10] <santa_> ...I just see the a single gigantic "sync with archive" commit
[12:11] <RikMills> sorry but I have another matter to deal with this second. can this wait?
[12:11] <santa_> sure
[16:25] <santa_> good afternoon everybody
[16:29] <santa_> RikMills: sorry for bothering you again, I have been thinking at lunch time about a few things wrt packaging/automation. do you have time saturday to have a mini-meeting? this way I can prepare a list of things to discuss ordered by priority
[16:29] <RikMills> ok
[16:30] <santa_> ack, thanks for your time. and sorry for not helping you more I have been busy with life & work ;)
[16:30] <RikMills> np
[20:26] <santa_> offtopic: I just got a whatsapp audio warning us to not get the covid 19
[20:27] <santa_> it's going to be upgraded to 20 in september
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[23:03] <RikMills> plasma 5.18.3 now in backports