[00:40] <jphilips> are all aware that adwaita icons seems to be broken - https://discourse.bigdaddylinux.com/uploads/default/original/1X/796e73015e3ad8fdacf99d82750f8bf6b3a2d390.png
[00:40] <jphilips> they are symbol icons
[00:41] <jphilips> i switched to adwaita style and icons and thunar looks bad
[00:41] <jphilips> https://imgur.com/pwg27In.png
[00:42] <jphilips> no icons for the home child folders
[00:46] <brainwash> since when?
[00:46] <brainwash> looks normal here
[00:48] <brainwash> last update of the adwaita icons package was 2019-10-18
[00:51] <jphilips> the first pic was from 19.10 by the BDLL team and the second pic was from 20.04 from me
[00:54] <brainwash> I have 20.04 too
[00:55] <JackFrost> What icons packages?  There's extended ones I believe.
[00:55] <brainwash> you mean -full?
[00:55] <JackFrost> Binary: adwaita-icon-theme, adwaita-icon-theme-full  sure, so it seems.  I don't care about Adwaita, soo.
[01:35] <jphilips> ochosi: are you aware of this ^^^
[01:40] <jphilips> so -full isnt installed by default
[01:41] <jphilips> -full is 7mb to download and 23mb installed
[01:44] <jphilips> we would need to either also bundle -full or remove the non-full as having something broken by default its good UX
[06:55] <JackFrost> bluesabre: So.  Maybe we should do a meeting before release time.
[08:28] <jphilips> JackFrost: yes definitely. i got things on the agenda :D
[08:29] <jphilips> brainwash: so about the adwaita issue, dont know where to file the bug, as its not a bug in the package, but a bug with xubuntu, so do you know where on launchpad to file this
[08:42] <JackFrost> But it's not one we can really fix, things depend on adwaita-icon-theme so we can't blacklist it.
[08:44] <JackFrost> ...Pretty sure the icon selector thing mentions that the icon theme is incomplete.
[09:23] <jphilips> JackFrost: nope doesn't mention it. so you're saying that we cant remove it from being bundled and if so, then we should also bundle -full
[09:26] <JackFrost> I highly disagree with that, we don't use it by default and have no use for it.
[09:27] <jphilips> can the broken one be removed?
[09:27] <jphilips> sorry, you already answered that :D
[09:28] <JackFrost> You can see what all it'd affect with `apt -s remove adwaita-icon-theme` though.
[09:43] <jphilips> pretty much takes down the entire xubuntu and xfce stack
[09:46] <jphilips> main dependant is likely libgtk-3-0
[10:38] <brainwash> jphilips: xubuntu-meta
[10:43] <jphilips> search on launchpad is bad. had to use google to find the page
[10:50] <jphilips> okay submitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1866814
[12:45] <jphilips> are all the panel profiles distributed with xubuntu from upstream?
[13:00] <brainwash> jphilips: https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-panel-profiles/tree/data/layouts
[13:02] <jphilips> so they are all upstream
[13:02] <jphilips> would xubuntu want to carry any new ones downstream, as i'm working on one to resemble windows 7
[13:03] <jphilips> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2020-March/011869.html
[13:06] <brainwash> and the reasoning is?
[13:06] <brainwash> you can just forward them upstream
[13:07] <brainwash> the goal should be to reduce workload
[13:14] <jphilips> initially assumed the xubuntu themes would have been carried downstream, as they are xubuntu specific, but see thats not the case
[13:16] <jphilips> doubt the mac os panel layout could be done downstream as it would also need activation of plank
[14:21] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: Add neutron-ovn-metadata-agent to supported-misc-servers @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=767bc794b6c122b840ede895f3f267bfcad4f123 (by James Page)
[14:58] <jphilips> does xubuntu participate in gsoc?
[15:05] <brainwash> jphilips: wouldn't make much sense I'd think
[15:05] <brainwash> but for Xfce it could
[15:05] <jphilips> sorry wrong channel :D
[15:05] <jphilips> but yes does xfce participate
[15:07] <brainwash> no
[15:09] <jphilips> might be a good idea way to bring in some new blood
[15:09] <jphilips> as long as there are mentors to assist them
[15:10] <jphilips> guess its to late for this year as they announced the orgs last month
[21:24] <JackFrost> I'm not sure the Xfce devs have the available time to properly mentor someone.
[21:24] <JackFrost> Of course I could be wrong.