[17:41] <EriC^^> hey guys, it's been a while, what do you think about removing the +r in #ubuntu, in case the botnet guys moved on to something else, or maybe lost their botnet or who knows? just til they attack again then?
[17:42] <EriC^^> anyways thanks, cheers
[19:46] <teward> -1 on EriC's proposal because the botnets hit many channels, not just ubuntu ;)
[19:50] <el> i figured they might have got that from when someone else asked a few days ago and got told that there are currently bots happening
[19:50] <el> also, apparently the camgirl spammers are still around
[19:51] <el> #debian got hit the other day
[19:52] <el> the thing they dont seem to grasp is that there's not one party of botnet people. it's like half a dozen of them.
[19:53] <el> they appear/dissappear sporadically but there's always something floating around
[20:00] <teward> yep
[20:02] <genii> I haven't seen the white power rascist ones in a while
[20:02] <teward> nor have I, but there are still botnets around so even though I'm not an op in #ubuntu I still support the +r on it
[20:02] <teward> (they hit other channels I'm in or have +o in and I see it on my logs)
[20:08] <genii> I'm generally against requiring users to be registered to join a particular channel, but in this case it does seem to be the best way to mitigate the bots
[20:19] <el> the thing is, sure we can +r if they hit again, but we're never right at the keyboard at the time. at which point it's too late. meanwhile flipping back and forth confuses things because people can get in sometimes and not others.
[21:03] <hggdh> +1
[21:05] <hggdh> (for el's comments)
[21:20] <teward> i agree with el.  with additional emphasis on the fact that we're "never at the keyboard at the right time".  Unless we configure, say Drone or one of the other bots in the event of a specific count of number of flood triggers to initiate a +r then notify here about the +r going into effect
[21:20] <teward> then requiring a manual remove / review at the future by the ops team
[21:20] <teward> just a thought.  (It can be... complicated... to make that work but it's still a potential mecahnism we can look into)
[21:32] <el> if you automate a bot to do it, the kids just get a new toy
[21:33] <el> and i think it might have been doing a very light version of that anyway? i forget. it's been a while
[21:34] <el> re: "toy", i mean like how they watch in #freenode for when sigyn goes out of defcon mode
[21:35] <el> or conversely, figure how to trigger defcon mode which some have also done