=== diddledan5 is now known as diddledan [01:52] interesting, looks like landscape doesn't update live in Firefox 74 [05:46] morning [10:36] o/ [12:52] popey: You're coming out of my speakers. [12:52] Sorry about that [12:52] * ball chuckles [12:53] I don't think I've ever heard the Linux For Everyone podcast before. [12:53] how did you stumble on that then? :) [12:54] Followed the podcast yesterday on Twitter when someone else mentioned it, I think. [12:55] ahhh [13:09] It's snaptastic. [13:13] hey popey [13:14] i enjoyed your latest youtube video's ! :) especially the screenshot tour down memory lane [13:51] I find myself wanting a ThinkPad [13:51] I blame popey. [13:52] wanting a thinkpad is perfectly natural... owning more than 1 is almost normal. 5 or more and you are into linux version of cat lady :-) [13:56] One challenge is that there have been so many versions over the years it's not easy to know what kind I would like. [13:56] not all thinkpads are the same... no [14:03] Hmm... ThinkPad 11e claims to be "Student proof". [14:04] they always invent a dumber student... [14:05] popey: Any ide whether that one works with Linux? [14:05] idea* [14:06] ideal* <- for the Bristolians [14:06] I honestly don't know. Not played with chromebooks [14:06] oh, it's windows, not chromeos [14:07] $480 after coupon. [14:07] Celeron N4100. Let me look that up. [14:07] try https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki [14:07] It would be nice to buy it with Linux on, given the choice [14:08] ..if only because it tells the manufacturer that people are interested in Linux. [14:10] manufacturers don't see people as customers, they see companies that buy 10000 of their laptops as customers [14:10] In my last job I used to buy quite a few Dell laptops [14:10] * ball contemplates sticking the kettle on. [14:11] * zmoylan-pi confesses to having never having used a dell desktop or laptop in my life. [14:11] and my first pc was a mitac in late 80s... [14:11] zmoylan-pi: We had about 400 desktops in the field and were buying Dells to replace those when they failed. [14:12] (back when we were allowed to buy things) [14:12] Mostly Optiplex 3070 tiny and mini tower variants. [14:12] (quad core i3, SSD etc.) [14:13] * ball looks up the ThinkPad E. [14:17] * ball accidentally adopts the ThinkPad 860 [14:18] left in a basket on your doorstep? :-P [14:19] I would give it a good home. [14:56] I have less than five thinkpads, so I'm officially not a linux cat lady [14:57] That 11e looks as though it would do everything I need. [14:57] I think we're only a six-thinkpad household, so far [14:57] If I find a job I might buy one. [14:59] dangerously close though... :-P [15:00] yeah four of them are mine. And there's time yet ... also this X1 technically belongs to my employer and I'll miss it when I leave [15:03] will they? :-P [15:24] eh, probably. They're pretty enterprise. My first thinkpad was "inherited" [15:24] one of the few laptop brands that a second hand laptop is still very desirable [15:24] I left a job with no job to go to, no laptop of my own, and it was way overdue for replacement. I still have that machine [15:26] * zmoylan-pi looks around room at 4 'old' laptops sitting idle.... all craptops as they were mostly obsolete when bought new. [15:26] all except my precious, my olpc.... :-) [15:31] lornajane: I was laid off at the beginning of this year. [15:53] brb, lunch. [15:57] ball: ouch. My manager is looking to move on and I'm not sure if I want to stay without her. I'm hoping to be making the decision myself though and in my own time [15:57] ball: grabbing an older model ThinkPad would be the way to go, i picked up a T440s for £170 on ebay a bit ago - 4th generation 'haswell' core i5, that'd be the minimum to aim for really