| kenvandine | robert_ancell_: running a few minutes late | 01:30 |
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| Jagst3r15 | hey if i am on a ubuntu 20.04 daily build from a week or so ago how do i update it to the latest so i get gnome 3.36 | 01:32 |
| sarnold | Jagst3r15: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 01:33 |
| Jagst3r15 | thnx | 01:33 |
| sarnold | Jagst3r15: don't let apt uninstall anything that looks important | 01:33 |
| sarnold | Jagst3r15: within the normal releases, apt's dependency solver will usually do a pretty good job; but in the development cycle, there's a lot more changes and its solver may make silly suggestions | 01:35 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell_: i'm in the hangout | 01:40 |
| duflu | RAOF, out of curiosity did you see some GL build-time libraries (*.so, no soname) do missing in focal? | 06:41 |
| duflu | Mine seem to have | 06:41 |
| duflu | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lEGL | 06:42 |
| duflu | -do +go | 06:42 |
| duflu | Hmm, something has deleted my GL *.so files. The packages are installed but the files are not. FYI tjaalton | 06:44 |
| duflu | Actually I did do a test install/remove of nvidia-340 this morning... | 06:45 |
| duflu | Yeah I blame Nvidia. Fixed: | 06:49 |
| duflu | sudo apt install --reinstall libegl-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libgl-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libgles-dev libgles2-mesa-dev libglvnd-dev libglx-dev | 06:49 |
| jibel | morning all | 06:49 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:51 |
| jibel | Hi duflu | 06:53 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:01 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:07 |
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| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 08:19 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 08:19 |
| duflu | How goes? | 08:19 |
| seb128 | a bit tired, I didn't sleep great, but good otherwise | 08:21 |
| seb128 | and it's friday! | 08:21 |
| mpt | Why is the password field on the lock screen way off-center? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | mpt, bug | 08:21 |
| seb128 | it's fixed in yaru git | 08:21 |
| seb128 | just needs an upload | 08:21 |
| duflu | mpt, bug 1865563 | 08:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865563 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "password box not centered" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865563 | 08:22 |
| mpt | Huh, I wouldn’t have thought Yaru could do that :-) | 08:22 |
| mpt | Thanks seb128, duflu | 08:22 |
| duflu | Yeah I was going to ask how it was possible | 08:22 |
| mpt | Gnome is weird | 08:26 |
| mpt | e.g. the lock screen has a “Power Off / Log Out” submenu … but the submenu only ever contains one item … but that item is not Power Off *or* Log Out | 08:29 |
| duflu | mpt see also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/2202 | 08:32 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 2202 in gnome-shell "Add explicit "Reboot" option in dropdown (instead of a button after clicking "Power Off")" [2. Needs Design, Opened] | 08:32 |
| duflu | I'm still wondering why my laptop's password dialog centred itself in Frankfurt. And all my other machines including new installs are still off centre | 08:34 |
| mpt | duflu, I don’t have a big problem with Restart being in the Power Off dialog, but that’s not relevant to the lock screen issue, because the lock screen doesn’t have Power Off either | 08:35 |
| duflu | mpt, I don't care too much either. Although I will note part of the complication is that it goes through 'gnome-session-quit --power-off' | 08:37 |
| duflu | So not just a gnome-shell issue | 08:37 |
| mpt | I’m guessing someone thought “oh, we have to use a submenu with the same title as the one when you’re logged in”, and ended up with something totally nonsensical | 08:38 |
| mpt | Also love how to turn off Bluetooth, you open a submenu titled … “On”. And then to turn on Bluetooth, you … ah hahaha, did you think that submenu would still be there? That would be too obvious | 08:40 |
| mpt | Ok, enough grousing for one day :-) | 08:41 |
| seb128 | :) | 08:42 |
| duflu | mpt, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1426 | 08:42 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 1426 in gnome-shell "Bluetooth item disappears from the integrated menu when turned off" [1. Bug, 5. Bluetooth, Opened] | 08:42 |
| mpt | To be positive, it’s good that gnome-control-center no longer has some categories hidden in “Devices” | 08:49 |
| duflu | Yes! | 08:51 |
| duflu | Also I just noticed the background selector is simpler now | 08:51 |
| mpt | arg | 08:53 |
| mpt | I just chose “Add Picture…” and the filepicker opened … maximized? but not unmaximizable … And if I try to move it, it doesn’t, but through the semi-transparent launcher I can see the Settings window moving around behind it | 08:54 |
| duflu | mpt, hmm I am running upstream gnome-shell 3.36.0 and have no such bug | 08:54 |
| seb128 | that's how modal dialog behave | 08:54 |
| duflu | A little ahead of focal | 08:54 |
| mpt | duflu, is the dialog maximized for you? | 08:55 |
| seb128 | well not the 'dialog behind moves with the popup' | 08:55 |
| duflu | mpt, no but it is very large | 08:55 |
| seb128 | it might depend of the screen resolution | 08:55 |
| mpt | I can unmaximize it by right-clicking on the title bar, choosing “Resize”, then using the keyboard. Then it becomes resizable with the pointer. | 08:57 |
| Laney | moin | 09:01 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 09:02 |
| Wimpress | Yawn. Morning desktopers o/ | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, Wimpress, how is the u.k today? | 09:03 |
| duflu | Morning Wimpress | 09:03 |
| Wimpress | seb128: There is an unfamiliar golden orb in the sky. | 09:03 |
| Wimpress | The locals feel uneasy. | 09:03 |
| Wimpress | duflu: o/ | 09:03 |
| Wimpress | seb128: I reviewed the Studio and Kylin changes for Ubiquity last night. | 09:04 |
| Wimpress | Feedback submitted. | 09:04 |
| duflu | Wimpress, also still in the sky here, coincidentally | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Studio is good to go. Just artwork changes. | 09:05 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, thanks, Kylin followed up on your review during the night, could you have another look to see if it's ok now? | 09:05 |
| Wimpress | Sure thing. | 09:06 |
| Wimpress | duflu: Careful! You'll get the flat earthers all excited 😁 | 09:06 |
| seb128 | duflu, Laney, did you hear from Trevinho and the status of the dock/extensions porting for 3.36? | 09:07 |
| Laney | no but it was supposed to be 'eod' and I thought that might be after my eod :-) | 09:07 |
| duflu | seb128, Marco had fixes in progress in Frankfurt so I just assumed it would be done by now | 09:08 |
| duflu | Even the one I worked on was mostly written by him so I let him own it | 09:08 |
| seb128 | right | 09:08 |
| seb128 | well he said he would be done by eod | 09:08 |
| seb128 | and I asked him to ping you if he's not to see if you could help during your day | 09:08 |
| seb128 | looks like he didn't do that :/ | 09:08 |
| duflu | Mostly because I could not explain all his changes so could not word a commit message | 09:08 |
| seb128 | disappointing :-( | 09:08 |
| seb128 | I guess https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/news/20200312T220419Z.html is one | 09:10 |
| Laney | looks like it | 09:11 |
| Laney | ah ok, sounds like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468839824/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-s390x.gobject-introspection_1.64.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz was a compiler bug! | 09:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, see #ubuntu-release backlog | 09:12 |
| seb128 | d_oko broke gcc :p | 09:12 |
| Laney | indeed | 09:14 |
| Laney | can haz gjs | 09:19 |
| duflu | Yes please | 09:19 |
| Laney | Well you're in luck | 09:19 |
| seb128 | oh, on other news, my launchpad fix landed \o/ | 09:20 |
| seb128 | first launchpad commit | 09:20 |
| Laney | nice | 09:20 |
| Laney | show me it in action! | 09:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, just try to edit tags on a bug :) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | it's a bit large now which doesn't look great, but at least it's usable | 09:21 |
| Laney | oh yeah | 09:21 |
| Laney | nice | 09:21 |
| duflu | Nice | 09:21 |
| seb128 | hack day ftw :) | 09:21 |
| Wimpress | Congrats seb128 on LP fixes 👍 | 09:23 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, thanks! :) | 09:23 |
| pieq | for the curious people like me, the change is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/380305 | 09:23 |
| pieq | merci seb128 :) usability modifications in LP are always appreciated :) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | pieq, yw! :) | 09:24 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, nice one! | 09:24 |
| seb128 | salut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? | 09:25 |
| oSoMoN | ça va, working from home with kids is proving challenging, but all good otherwise | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Spain closed schools? | 09:26 |
| oSoMoN | yes | 09:26 |
| seb128 | fun times... | 09:27 |
| Wimpress | Talk of hack day. How do I nudge this along? | 09:27 |
| Wimpress | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1866709 | 09:27 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1866709 in Ubuntu " [needs-packaging] nv-codec-headers" [Wishlist,New] | 09:27 |
| Wimpress | Have got agreement from FTP masters in Debian to land this upstream too. | 09:28 |
| Laney | Get it uploaded | 09:29 |
| * duflu is inspired to use the remaining 30 minutes to sanity check VAAPI in focal | 09:29 | |
| Wimpress | Laney: To Debian? | 09:29 |
| Laney | Ideally, but your next step is to get someone to sponsor it somewhere :-) | 09:29 |
| Laney | if it's NEW you might want a separate upload to Ubuntu too | 09:30 |
| Wimpress | Right. I want it Ubuntu ASAP. It does just need uploading. | 09:30 |
| Wimpress | Who can do that? 🤔 | 09:30 |
| * Laney looks at comment #2 | 09:31 | |
| * Wimpress is seeking a sponsor. | 09:32 | |
| Laney | I'm saying... looks like seb12_8 already did review it | 09:33 |
| Laney | so hopefully there's your sponsor | 09:34 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, Laney, sorry, I didn't upload because https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze_for_new_packages was not clear to me | 09:34 |
| seb128 | it felt a bit backward to upload before it's approved | 09:34 |
| Wimpress | So I need to get an ack from the release team? | 09:35 |
| Laney | nah you can | 09:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, Wimpress, also we (archive-admin) try to not be uploader&reviewer, if I upload you need to find another review to NEW it then (Didier is off today) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | might be easier to find a sponsor that an archive admin to NEW review | 09:35 |
| Laney | I'll update that page though, we haven't required that for ages | 09:35 |
| Laney | not that I can log in | 09:36 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess?action=diff&rev2=58&rev1=57 | 09:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, makes sense | 09:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you do the upload so I can do the NEWing? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, k, ubuntustudio slideshow changes merged, yours approved, we only you to re-review the kylin one before upload | 09:42 |
| Laney | well | 09:43 |
| Laney | if you want me to stop working on marcus's update-manager changes to review this package which you already did review | 09:43 |
| Laney | then yes I can | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, k, don't bother then | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, you need to find either a sponsor or a NEW reviewer, I can't do both | 09:43 |
| Laney | decide the priorities :-) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | and I already did the NEW review so it makes more sense to find a sponsor | 09:43 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, ^ | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I've a feeling I should just don't care and upload and review my own upload :p | 09:44 |
| * seb128 ponders | 09:44 | |
| Wimpress | I'll review Kylin Slideshow changes within the next hour. | 09:45 |
| Laney | do ittttt | 09:45 |
| duflu | Is it unusual for a snap to have version 1.0.0 when the deb is 3.1.3 (for example)? | 09:45 |
| Laney | except you know the queue will now remember that it was you :-) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:46 |
| Wimpress | duflu: Yes. | 09:46 |
| duflu | Wimpress, just noticed 'rsync' | 09:46 |
| Wimpress | Has the snap not been updated recently? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | duflu, snap as any other package format can get outdated if nobody is updating them | 09:46 |
| Wimpress | Hmm, sounds like they versioned the yaml, not the software in the snap? | 09:47 |
| duflu | Looks like the snap was just never versioned correctly | 09:47 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, nv-codec-headers sponsored/NEWed | 09:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468814360/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_gnome-3-34-1804-sdk_BUILDING.txt.gz in case you didn't notice | 09:52 |
| seb128 | ERROR: Program(s) ['wget'] not found or not executable | 09:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, also https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468793367/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_snap-store-packagekit_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:53 |
| duflu | seb128, it looks like Marco has been trying to upstream dock changes for a few weeks: https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/1097 | 09:54 |
| gitbot | micheleg issue (Pull request) 1097 in dash-to-dock "Gnome 3.36 support" [Open] | 09:54 |
| Wimpress | seb128: Thank you. First beer on me next time we meet 👍 | 09:54 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, :-) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | duflu, right, well we can at least update ubuntu-dock | 09:57 |
| duflu | seb128, it also looks like that's already done for the ubuntu-dock branch | 09:57 |
| seb128 | he also replied to me on telegram now | 09:57 |
| seb128 | he said dock should be ok now | 09:57 |
| * duflu clicks refresh and still sees no changes in 14 days | 09:58 | |
| duflu | so I wonder what "ok now" means, and where | 09:59 |
| seb128 | I guess it means he has a working codebase locally... | 09:59 |
| duflu | Still missing a fix for bug 1865865 at least | 10:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865865 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Icon spring animation starts/ends in the wrong location (near the top of the dock) " [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865865 | 10:00 |
| duflu | But that's the one where I could not explain all his changes so would prefer he documented and committed that fix | 10:00 |
| duflu | If need be I can revive it from my laptop on Monday but hopefully won't need to by then | 10:01 |
| seb128 | he said he would be done today, hopefully that's true | 10:02 |
| seb128 | I also told him to get on IRC! | 10:02 |
| duflu | seb128, is it safe to EOW? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | duflu, yes | 10:02 |
| seb128 | duflu, enjoy the W.E! | 10:02 |
| duflu | Alright. Catch you later | 10:04 |
| Laney | yeah I guess it would have been better for this review to have happened while Marcus was still around :-) | 10:12 |
| * Laney has Questions | 10:12 | |
| Wimpress | seb128: Slide Show MR for Kylin is now good. | 10:19 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, thanks! | 10:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128: yeah, i fixed gnome-3-34-1804-sdk yesterday | 10:37 |
| kenvandine | snap-store also built yesterday, but only builds for amd64 because it snapcraft is being pulled from a branch that is amd64 | 10:39 |
| Saviq | jibel: hey, I've trouble with zsys… I had to clear the snapshots b/c I ran out of space… now I don't have any Ubuntu entries in grub… | 11:26 |
| Saviq | Got any pointers? | 11:27 |
| Saviq | jibel: OK the problem was /boot/{efi,grub} got created, probably due to me booting in recovery mode - so /boot wasn't getting mounted - I wonder if we can force /boot to mount even if non-empty? | 11:44 |
| Saviq | or warn/error out? | 11:44 |
| * Saviq files a couple bugs | 11:44 | |
| Laney | hmmmmmm | 11:46 |
| Laney | is it ok for update-manager to cause polkit prompts? | 11:47 |
| Laney | for aptdaemon we have overrides in pk-d-p to let update-manager work but not for snapd ... | 11:47 |
| Laney | seb128: kenvandine: | 11:48 |
| jibel | Saviq, is there any error when you run sudo update-grub ? | 11:50 |
| kenvandine | Laney: hmmm | 11:51 |
| kenvandine | i don't know | 11:51 |
| Saviq | jibel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fjyy2ZC6MP/ - when /boot wasn't mounted (b/c of the /boot/{efi,grub} folders existing on the root subvol), it printed the same warnings, but then (obviously) couldn't find any Linuxes | 11:53 |
| Saviq | jibel: hmm actually it looks like I'm getting into that state on every boot | 11:54 |
| * Saviq cleared all snapshots and tries to reboot | 11:59 | |
| Laney | also how is update-manager triggered to automatically open? | 12:02 |
| Laney | I want to check that path too | 12:02 |
| Laney | it's been put after 'update' but before 'install' and I'm not sure that's the right order either | 12:06 |
| jibel | Saviq, can you file a bug, it'll be easier to gather information and understand what's going on than on irc. | 12:43 |
| Saviq | jibel: yeah doing that now | 12:43 |
| jibel | thank you | 12:44 |
| Saviq | jibel: https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/60 | 12:52 |
| gitbot | ubuntu issue 60 in zsys "Missing all Ubuntu entries from GRUB (`bpool` not imported due to `/boot` not empty)" [Open] | 12:52 |
| Laney | seb128: kenvandine: ok, well I reviewed it: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/380060 | 12:56 |
| Laney | does need some work imho, not sure if we should wait for Marcus to be back or what | 12:56 |
| kenvandine | Laney: thanks. Marcus said he thought you would handle any additional changes that was needed | 12:57 |
| Laney | well yeah ... | 12:58 |
| Laney | but this is a bit more significant than I might have expected when making such a rash statement | 13:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ack | 13:03 |
| Saviq | jibel: and https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/60 | 13:04 |
| gitbot | ubuntu issue 60 in zsys "Missing all Ubuntu entries from GRUB (`bpool` not imported due to `/boot` not empty)" [Open] | 13:04 |
| Saviq | https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/61 rather | 13:05 |
| gitbot | ubuntu issue 61 in zsys "Ran out of space (couldn't even boot)" [Open] | 13:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's probably best if the polkit behaviour of asking/not asking if consistent with what we have, so yeah havinbg overrides seems to make sense | 13:05 |
| Laney | but then I guess it means anyone can snap install / remove / ... anything | 13:06 |
| Laney | which is not the case with apt, the override is for aptdaemon only | 13:07 |
| Laney | well, any admin at the console ... | 13:07 |
| Laney | could be ok... | 13:07 |
| seb128 | hum | 13:09 |
| seb128 | at the same time it's not a codepath users are going to hit every day, it would just ask for the password when some changes are neded right? | 13:09 |
| Laney | right | 13:10 |
| seb128 | so it's probably fine to ask that one time... | 13:10 |
| Laney | but it's kind of random | 13:10 |
| Laney | I dunno, perhaps it's ok if it happens at the end of an update run | 13:10 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, ^ do you have an opinion on that? | 13:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, I think it's good enough personally, not great but we have to do with the resources we have and it's only a small annoyance/weidness | 13:12 |
| Laney | that's kind of a side fix anyway | 13:13 |
| Laney | either way it needs some work as I outlined in the mr | 13:13 |
| seb128 | right | 13:14 |
| Laney | question is whether to wait for Marcus and do that in a week or do it now and someone else slides their work a day or two | 13:14 |
| seb128 | I would say to wait for next week at this point and see once we are over GNOME 3.36 landing and some other ongoing work | 13:17 |
| seb128 | we can discuss it on monday in the catchup call | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | sorry, in a meeting | 13:18 |
| kenvandine | lets talk about it monday | 13:18 |
| Laney | ok | 13:19 |
| Laney | also bear in mind that this was kind of meant to support people on the dev release :p | 13:20 |
| Laney | guess it does have ongoing value tho | 13:20 |
| Laney | e.g. switches made via sru | 13:20 |
| * Wimpress reads the backlog... | 14:04 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/snap-store/+git/snap-store/+merge/380672 ? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | Wimpress, slideshow package uploaded | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128: not yet | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | snap-store is a mirror from gitlab | 14:31 |
| seb128 | oh, it's not obvious from launchpad :p | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | i know | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | sorry | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, edit the description on https://launchpad.net/snap-store to mention that maybe? | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | seb128: good idea | 14:41 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, kenvandine, you guys don't feel like doing one or two GNOME updates/merges today? | 14:41 |
| * seb128 feels alone | 14:41 | |
| seb128 | I spent my week on it, it's a bit depressing at this point, would be nice to be done for eow | 14:41 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, absolutely, sorry I didn't get to it earlier… I could use some context switching for the afternoon, for a change :) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, thanks! | 14:42 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, what are the most pressing updates? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | but basically seahorse/tracker/librsvg | 14:43 |
| seb128 | which you already handled recently so should be easy enough | 14:43 |
| seb128 | otherwise vte/g-t merges | 14:43 |
| oSoMoN | ok, I'll take those three | 14:43 |
| oSoMoN | (seahorse/tracker/librsvg) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, great, thanks a lot! | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | seb128: let me give it a swing :) | 14:59 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks! | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | seb128: did you see i uploaded the recommends change in packagekit? | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | i need to do the ubuntu-meta upload | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | which i'm going to do next | 15:00 |
| seb128 | right | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | I should add the provides to both ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop-minimal right? | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | seb128: ^^ | 15:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did we have gnome-software in minimal? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | i think so | 15:06 |
| seb128 | so yes | 15:06 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 15:25 |
| oSoMoN | mornin' hellsworth | 15:25 |
| hellsworth | hi oSoMoN ! | 15:26 |
| Laney | kenvandine: why both? | 15:35 |
| Laney | hope these deltas are going to be forwarded ;-) | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | yeah, seb128 and i talked about adding the recommends change in packagekit to debian | 15:38 |
| Laney | right, and gst-good will need updating in the same way | 15:41 |
| Laney | in terms of ubuntu-meta I think just having it from -minimal would be enough since ubuntu-desktop has a Depends there | 15:42 |
| Laney | Marcus basically pushed back on all of my review comments | 15:57 |
| Laney | Perhaps someone else would like to take it over from here? | 15:57 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | he shouldn't be responding to anything right now :) | 16:00 |
| Laney | was a bit surprised to see that! | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | if i understand correctly | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | he's doing the transition before the user actually clicks on anything? | 16:02 |
| Laney | update -> transition -> (deb) upgrade | 16:02 |
| Laney | indeed there is no UI in there | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | where update is updating the apt cache? | 16:02 |
| Laney | yes | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | that feels wrong | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | the user should click the button before we actually alter what's installed | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | i understand why he did that... but it feels wrong | 16:03 |
| seb128 | I comment on the MP about that | 16:04 |
| seb128 | I agree it feels wrong, imho those who decide to close the tool and do command line can also decide what they want between snap and deb and do the install/remove themselve | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | oh | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | i commented as well :) | 16:06 |
| Laney | at least everyone's in agreement :p | 16:08 |
| Laney | but I don't really want to have to argue about the other details | 16:09 |
| Laney | if someone wants to be more loose than me it would be great for them to take over the review :/ | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | I really don't know enough about it to review | 16:12 |
| Laney | like why it's better to catch the exceptions you need rather than everything, or why you might prefer to avoid threading in favour of using libraries ... | 16:14 |
| Laney | meh | 16:14 |
| seb128 | we should get foundations to review the merge, they own update-manager | 16:16 |
| Laney | that's fine, but I would also be happy for us to own reviewing / uploading features we are driving | 16:21 |
| Laney | I'm just less fine with being a reviewer if it's a high friction process | 16:21 |
| Laney | but it might just be me so I am happy to step aside ... | 16:21 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, I understand that and it's fair enough if you want to step aside and avoid arguments | 16:22 |
| seb128 | it's friday afternoon, let's all rest and see on monday what we do next | 16:22 |
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| Laney | ok | 16:35 |
| Laney | goooooooooood attitude | 16:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, when pristine-tar diverged between us and Debian what's the right way to fix it? merge the debian one in launchpad and then in salsa merge back that one? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | so we can pull again next time | 16:44 |
| Laney | checkout the debian side, git merge -s ours lp/pristine-tar; git push salsa pristine-tar; git push lp pristine-tar | 16:44 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:44 |
| * Laney should have been sassy and said finish the salsa migration :> | 16:50 | |
| Laney | #returnofthefridaytroll | 16:51 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:56 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, let me know if https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/merge_requests/229 makes sense | 17:01 |
| Laney | eek | 17:03 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, can you push upstream/latest and pristine-tar? | 17:08 |
| seb128 | for librsvg and seahorse | 17:08 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, doing | 17:08 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, done | 17:11 |
| oSoMoN | (for tracker and tracker-miners too) | 17:12 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, thanks | 17:13 |
| seb128 | (I didn't look at those yet/might not get to them today) | 17:13 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, what would be the next priority, in case I feel like doing updates later in the evening? anything from the TODO column? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, no real priority, gsettings-desktop-schemas and orca merges should be easy enough and you have upload rights | 17:24 |
| oSoMoN | ack | 17:24 |
| seb128 | otherwise anything you feel like doing | 17:24 |
| seb128 | but you should call it a week, it's friday evening! | 17:24 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, I probably will, but the morning was frustratingly unproductive, so I feel like getting stuff done :) | 17:25 |
| seb128 | :-) | 17:27 |
| seb128 | on that note time for me to do some evening/pre-diner activities | 17:27 |
| seb128 | have a nice w.e desktopers! | 17:27 |
| Laney | bye! | 17:27 |
| oSoMoN | have a good one! | 17:30 |
| oSoMoN | have a good week-end everyone! | 18:28 |
| kenvandine | @hellsworth gnome-3-34-1804{,-sdk} has been published to stable | 19:01 |
| kenvandine | @hellsworth from here on out let's not push any local builds to the store | 19:01 |
| kenvandine | only the LP builds | 19:01 |
| hellsworth | sounds good to me! | 19:31 |
| hellsworth | and only official LP builds i assume? | 19:31 |
| hellsworth | (which i do not have perms to trigger) | 19:31 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine: ^ | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: yup | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | sorry :) | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | it will automatically build though | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | after the mirror updates | 19:33 |
| hellsworth | ok | 19:33 |
| k_alam | ricotz: Hi, With newer vala hud is failing to compile with dee...error: construct properties not supported for specified property type... Can you take a look ? | 19:56 |
| k_alam | ricotz: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468894644/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.hud_14.10+17.10.20170619-0ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz | 19:56 |
| ricotz | k_alam, hi, try to add --pkg dee-1.0 to the vapigen call | 20:01 |
| ricotz | k_alam, like https://paste.debian.net/plain/1134842 | 20:03 |
| ricotz | k_alam, the built binding should be named "hud-${API_VERSION}.vapi" | 20:05 |
| ricotz | it is suppose to match the pkg-config filename | 20:05 |
| k_alam | It seems Ubuntu's dee source has it's own dee-1.0.vapi....but I will try this fix... | 20:07 |
| k_alam | ricotz: Thanks | 20:08 |
| ricotz | k_alam, yes, and this already existing dee-1.0.vapi should be used | 20:09 |
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