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EriC^^Aleric: you could try to workaround apt, but it's totally up to you, full disclosure00:00
AlericIt would be nice if I could get more debug output from apt to see what the exact reason is.00:00
EriC^^/var/lib/dpkg/status should have the 'conflicts' and whatnot which you can modify to workaround apt00:01
AlericIn a distant past I used nvidia's .run files and that screwed by my PC so much that I had to buy another PC (I kid you not) :/00:01
EriC^^i'd say use the run file, probably a lot less headachy00:01
AlericThat would mean I'd write over files installed by apt... so when later I run apt my OS will likely get screwed again.00:02
EriC^^Aleric: pretty sure they integrate it into apt and stuff, just purge all current ppa's etc and use as recommended by nvidia00:03
AlericIt would mean that every time I run apt upgrade I have to do a lot of checks and rerun nvidia specific commands to keep my system sane - I don't think I understand this spaghetti enough to be able to do that.00:03
AlericIf I purge all ppa's I won't have 32bit support.00:03
EriC^^didn't you say the nvidia works with 32bit?00:03
Alerichttps://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/577800:04
AlericThis is thread from steam; but it describes part of the problem.00:04
Alericsteam requires the i386 packages of the nvidia drivers.00:04
Alericcuda from nvidia does not support that.00:04
AlericSo, if you install cuda, your 32bit stuff gets REMOVEd.00:05
AlericNevertheless, some people post what they did to get it to work. So I think some change must be possible to the config of apt to get it to CLEANLY work.00:06
AlericE.g. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778#issuecomment-58539625000:08
Aleric"I purged all cuda stuffs from Nvidia's repo, Installed driver from graphic driver ppa to get 32 bit support then installed cuda with the .run file locally. It is simple and everything works."00:08
sarnoldAleric: stuff one or the other in an lxd instance perhaps?00:09
AlericSo ppl claim that "works", but it sounds very dirty and prone to corruption later on :/00:09
Alericwhats lxd?00:09
sarnoldlxd is a container tool that lets you 'run' multiple systems, similar to VMs, but with less overhead00:10
AlericWhat I'm trying to do is to get apt to install whatever the .run file installs, witout removing the 32bit stuff from graphic driver ppa.00:10
Alericnah00:10
AlericHmm00:14
AlericI think I'll try to keep everything from the graphic driver ppa... and ONLY install the cuda files from the nvidia repository. That should work.  The question is: how to convince apt to do that?00:15
AlericBasically I need to change the pinning to below 500 and then force it to install ignoring dependencies.00:16
sarnoldthe 'equivs' package may help you fake up dependencies00:16
Aleric cuda-drivers : Depends: libnvidia-compute-440 (>= 440.64.00) but 440.64-0ubuntu0~0.18.04.1 is to be installed00:24
AlericWhy the hell isn't 440.64-0ubuntu0~0.18.04.1 >= 440.64.00 ??00:24
AlericI'd say it is.00:25
AlericIs there is howto or manual for this equivs?00:25
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DekkardSo tried to install 18.xx.. failed at grub install.. went to live session and threw a ubipartman error...00:30
DekkardWierdest thing ever00:30
DekkardAny rhoughts?00:31
sarnoldwhat was the error?00:34
fd2hi all. i have installed image editor Pinta. There is some text in log 'Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/binfmt-support.service → /lib/systemd/system/binfmt-support.service.'. is that just creation of the link? (i am noob in linux)00:49
sarnoldfd2: that's a note from systemctl that it will try to start that binfmt-support.service when the computer boots normally00:51
sarnoldfd2: systemctl status binfmt-support.service  will probably include a note where the documentation can be found, and a few log entries00:51
fd2sarnold, thank you01:36
sarnoldyou're welcome fd2 :)01:36
poroHello, any idea how to fix this problem I have with my bluetooth earbuds, they connect and function properly for around 5 seconds and then disconnect01:42
poroI tried in Arch too and same thing happened01:43
sarnoldlinux bluetooth support is pretty poor01:44
sarnoldare there any messages in dmesg or bluez logs that might indicate a problem?01:45
porocan you show me how to access those logs please01:45
poroI'm using Ubuntu 19.10 vanilla minimal install01:45
porowith latest updates01:45
AlericEriC^^, sarnold: thanks again... https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778#issuecomment-59850757701:47
AlericHowever, ... it failed :/01:47
Alerichmmpf01:47
Aleric (No space left on device)01:47
AlericOh01:48
sarnoldugh01:48
AlericBoth /usr and /usr/local are full! :/01:48
sarnoldporo: for dmesg, just run "dmesg" in a terminal and look near the end if there's anything that looks bluetoothish01:48
sarnoldporo: for bluez, maybe /var/log/*blu*  or maybe journalctl01:49
porohttps://pastebin.com/vi8WJR0t01:55
sarnoldporo: oh strange... is this an external dongle or built in to the machine? does the machine have "enough" power supply?01:57
porobuilt in bluetooth, but I've read that some systems treat it as USB01:57
sarnoldyeah01:58
sarnoldbut that does rule out "you need a powered hub"01:58
sarnoldhehe01:58
poroyea it should have more than enough power supply, Its connected and I have no other usb stuff connected01:58
porothe laptop is charging is what I mean when I said "its connected"01:58
sarnoldand is the laptop charger powerful enough for the task at hand?01:59
sarnoldeg not a 25 watt joke or something? :)01:59
poroIt's a modern Thinkpad with the original charger, full battery and charger is plugged in, task at hand is nothing except for this IRC client02:00
poroso It should be ok02:00
poroalso other bluetooth devices work fine, is just this specific bluetooth earbuds that disconnect after a few seconds02:03
sarnoldit just took me weeks to narrow down a problem with my x1c that came down to "the monitor can't supply enough power over the usb-c to run the system at full speed"02:04
sarnoldare there any updates to install through fwupd?02:04
sarnoldsudo fwupdmgr refresh && sudo fwupdmgr update02:05
porodoesnt update anything but gives a error message02:08
poroFailed to update metadata for lvfs: '48A6D80E4538BAC2' is not a valid signature02:08
sarnoldhttps://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues/39102:10
sarnoldlooks like "try again soon" is the outcome there :/02:10
poroyea, I was reading the same page02:11
poroAt least I managed to fix all the other issues, been distro hopping for the last few days because of this bluetooth issue, also failure of every DE to properly scale to my HiDPI display, and Japanese input not working or certain programs02:12
poroIf this gets fixed in a while my Ubuntu will be perfect haha02:13
poroThere is this minor issue with Gnome freezing when I copy files but that doesn't bother me much02:14
sarnoldcan you move the mouse around?02:15
porowhen copying files? nope02:15
porowell maybe every 10 seconds or so the mouse will move a little bit but not enough to be usable02:15
sarnoldporo: that's probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/186135902:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1861359 in linux (Ubuntu) "swap storms kills interactive use" [High,Confirmed]02:16
sarnoldit's happened to me a dozen times today. I'm grumpy about that...02:16
poroHave you been copying files from or to a ntfs partition?02:17
sarnoldno, I almost never copy files; but can poke it through firefox or trying a ripgrep on a huge pile of data02:18
sarnoldsometimes git pulls will do it02:18
porooh so It's a swap problem02:19
poromy swap is in a HDD so that probably makes it worse02:19
sarnoldthe thing is, none of the systems where this has been reported have been anywhere close to the point where they *should* be swapping02:20
sarnoldI wish we could track this thing down02:20
sarnoldit doesn't make much sense02:20
sarnoldporo: as for the earbuds, probably http://www.bluez.org/contact/ the option :(02:23
poroI'm trying to install the latest kernel I can find atm to see if that fixes it02:24
poroif not I'll contact them02:24
sarnoldporo: these may be handy https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/02:25
porothx02:25
porogotta reboot, thx for helping out!02:30
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poroAnybody know some brute force way of telling snap to chill05:48
poroIt got stuck in the middle of removing a package and even if I abort it it just keeps being stuck05:49
poronot only I cant install or remove that package now but also the whole system is freezing for a few secs here and there05:49
tomreyn"apt purge snap" should work06:05
tomreyni think there's also some way to have it repair its metadata store, though06:06
porowill that remove snap completely?06:06
poroor maybe other snap packages apart from the one Im having trouble with06:07
oskiedoes it matter which interface you define nameservers on with netplan? it seems not07:04
Puru_ShillIn short, I had Ubuntu dual booted with win10, and I wanted to get rid of Ubuntu. Following a guide, I deleted the partition then tried to access the safe mode command prompt. My computer booted into a frozen GNU GRUB prompt and won' let me boot into any bootable devices07:04
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oskieit should be possible to restore with some boot disk, you just need to have win10 write a boot sector07:06
Puru_ShillThe computer boots straight into the frozen GNU GRUB07:07
Puru_ShillWon't boot into either my USB stick or USB disc drive07:07
Puru_ShillSo am I just like SoL?07:15
Puru_ShillTried something i feel is dynamically stupid but works. So tldr to access the drive plugs I have to pop off the front panel, which has the power button, which is connected via 3 contact pins so I popped it off, Unplugged the ssd, popped back in, turned on, and my computer booted into the Ubuntu live CD instead of the windows USB. So after I'm at07:31
Puru_Shillthe gnu grub boot manager, I plugged the ssd back in and am now starting to get a live session.07:31
Puru_ShillSo yeah, once I'm in, is there some terminal command to fix the boot table, or boot into UEFI?07:33
Puru_ShillOr I guess more accurately remove grub so I have just window's boot loader07:37
ducassePuru_Shill: you need to install the windows bootloader from windows, so try ##windows07:38
Puru_ShillAlright, so is there a command from Ubuntu to boot into UEFI so I can boot into windows?07:38
Puru_ShillLooks like googling suggests "systemctl reboot --firmware-setup"?07:40
ducasseif grub is properly installed, it can have an entry to enter uefi firmware07:40
Puru_ShillAs I mentioned earlier, I had windows and Ubuntu dual booted, but in an attempt to get rid of Ubuntu, following a guide, I removed the Ubuntu partition, and tried to boot to a windows USB stick07:42
Puru_ShillInstead I get booted into a frozen GNU GRUB prompt07:42
Puru_ShillWell that systemctl command did the job07:44
Puru_ShillAnd back in Windows. Thanks07:47
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PCatineanHey guys, is there any way I can make a script that pulls data over ssh accessible to another user that can call it but use my user ssh key?08:26
rodrigoty23can anybody help me find a freezing cause i tried this workaround but it still freezes https://askubuntu.com/questions/761706/ubuntu-15-10-and-16-04-keep-freezing-randomly?08:33
EriC^^PCatinean: maybe the other script runs in a cron job getting the files08:39
EriC^^PCatinean: or there's a script running as your user, and when the other user runs his script it instructs the other to download the file08:41
PCatineanEriC^^, that is also a possibility and not a bad one. This is a docker image of debian and I want to set it maybe at entrypoint08:41
PCatineanEriC^^, how could I achieve that?08:41
PCatineanThis is basically just to rsync some files over ssh and I don't want the unprivileged user to have access to ssh keys just do handle this operation08:41
EriC^^PCatinean: you could use inotifywait, when it detects a file somewhere, it starts the 'download script' (as your main user)08:42
PCatineanhmmm08:43
EriC^^and cleans up the file for a new wait08:43
PCatineanSo it looks for a created file you mean?08:43
EriC^^yeah08:43
PCatineanand I would have to create a random file in order to trigger this script?08:44
EriC^^yeah08:44
PCatineansounds a bit hacky but could work I guess08:44
EriC^^yeah, not an IT tech here, so it's a fwiw :D08:45
PCatineanbut it's a solution indeed, thanks for the suggestion EriC^^ <308:46
EriC^^the guys in ##Linux might know of a more defacto kind of thing for it, give it a go there as well i'd say08:46
EriC^^might be easier and better solution, worth a shot08:46
EriC^^no problem :)08:46
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PCatineanbrb08:50
Gapi<mwheeler-> earth is cancelled08:57
Gapi<runelind_q> lets reload from the last savepoint08:57
Gapi<mwheeler-> oh, sorry.. automatic restore point creation was disabled due to disk space concerns08:57
Gapi<mwheeler-> last backup we have is ..... 65 million years ago08:57
Gapi<CrtxReavr> Fuck it. . . let 'er rip!08:57
Gapi<mamarley> CrtxReavr: The restore failed.  Now the state is corrupted.08:57
ducasse!ot | Gapi08:58
ubottuGapi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:58
Gapiwas copy past from ipv6 channel08:59
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ryan-cis there any way to debug why, after several hours, static routes i set up are removed by *something*?09:25
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funabashicat test.php | pastebinit wwhy does that cmd not work?10:09
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EriC^^funabashi: does it give any error10:11
funabashino10:14
funabashiI guess its because of php code10:14
ducassefunabashi: try 'cat test.php | nc termbin.com 9999'10:15
funabashiyes but it can be nice to undertand why this pastebinit doesnt work10:15
funabashiducasse: but thanks for another solution10:15
ducasseprobably the server tries to interpret the php10:16
EriC^^funabashi: does 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit' not work?10:17
funabashiducasse: ye. but i have another question for you. lets say i want my website how can i make that? like "cat test.php | nc mywebsite 9999" ?10:17
EriC^^i sincerely doubt it's running the php code10:17
funabashiyep its due the php10:17
EriC^^no10:17
funabashiEriC^^: i guess but you are better than me10:18
EriC^^well, it seems it doesn't allow php code, returns an empty link10:19
EriC^^it's definitely not parsing it though, cause that would be a major security hole10:19
ducasseyes, it just seems to block it, i guess10:19
EriC^^paste.ubuntu.com says "PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed"10:19
ducassepastebinit can use other sites, though10:20
EriC^^funabashi: to make your own terminal paste uploader you can clone termbin's "engine" https://github.com/solusipse/fiche10:20
EriC^^true10:20
funabashithanks10:22
EriC^^funabashi: fwiw you can also make an alias on your pc, alias pasteit='nc termbin.com 9999' , then do cat file | pasteit10:22
EriC^^np10:23
funabashi^^10:24
CQhello, I have a SD card in a USB cardreader that mounts itself when I insert if (so far so good), but it is only root-accessible, not by my user ... any suggestions?10:29
bryanroderyckhello i having problem on ubuntu 19 where the it keep asking me for wifi password10:39
CQsolved, just chown user.user fixed it10:39
bryanroderyckCQ is it the answer?10:41
jpnurmii lost picture on my external monitor. the display is detected, and the picture shows up in the login screen, but then the screen goes blank ant stays like that. this is a relatively fresh installation of ubuntu 19.1010:41
CQbryanroderyck, answer to my problem, not to yours10:42
CQbryanroderyck, google it, or see if there is a "save this password" setting somewhere10:42
bryanroderyckok CQ thanks for your help ..but there are no save option and i havent found any solution10:45
ducassejpnurmi: try 'xrandr --auto'10:46
BluesKajHiyas all10:52
jpnurmiducasse: thanks. doesn't seem to have any effect10:57
kobelobsterHello. I freshly installed Ubuntu Server 18.04 on a server, connected the ethernet cable, however on set-up it said that no ethernet is available. When I boot into the system, I also have no internet connection. When I use "ifconfig" I don't see my ethernet adapter. When I use ip addr show I see enp3s0. When I use ifconfig enp3s0 up I still don't11:01
kobelobsterhave internet. What exactly do I need to do?11:01
BluesKajsudo systemctl enable network-manager, then sudo systemctl start network-manager11:06
kobelobsterI don't have network-manager on ubuntu server (?), but I just managed to set it up using "netplan"11:06
theborgeri need to install an old version of gcc  is there a way to do this without having to dl all the dependencies?11:09
theborgeri need to install gcc version 7.411:09
ducassejpnurmi: you can try installing arandr and see if you can activate the screen there11:10
CQtheborger, older GCC will have older dependencies, so I don't think that you can get arount that11:10
theborgerCQ: dang i did not want to do this by hand11:12
CQtheborger, by hand? If you install the old gcc, it shold pull those in automatically11:12
theborgerhow do i install it?11:12
theborgeri have the .deb11:12
theborgerbut it will not install i am using dpgk11:13
CQapt-cache search gcc ... then look for the old version which should still be around, then sudo apt install it11:13
theborgerah ok11:13
CQapt show gcc-7 ... looks like that will install 7.5 thoug11:15
theborgeryea i dont see 7.411:16
jpnurmiducasse: apparently it's somehow related to screen brightness :)11:17
theborgerCQ: any other ideas?11:18
jpnurmiducasse: it's a dell xps 7590, and i did install something called icc-brightness earlier to make the screen brightness buttons work at all. i don't know if it was powertop or some updates that i pulled in yesterday that may have broken things again. now the brightness buttons don't have any effect on the laptop screen, and completely random result on the external monitor :(11:21
CQwhy do you specifically need 7.4?11:22
theborgerinstalling an older version of VMware workstation11:23
CQdpkg -I package.deb11:23
CQ7.4 and 7.5 should be close enough.... else list the dependencies and install them11:23
theborgerhow do i list and install the deps?11:24
theborgerthe only way i know to do it is download them one at a time and install that way11:24
CQdpkg -I like I just showed11:25
theborgerok11:25
theborgerCQ: how do i install these dependencies? just search for them?11:26
CQif it says something like libabc-dbg just apt install libabc-dbg11:26
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cariveriHi. I installed a theme to tweak the appreance and it all works. except for the application context menus. the contrast of background a font color is too low to read it properly. Any ideas?11:56
lotuspsychje!themes | cariveri12:17
ubottucariveri: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy12:17
lotuspsychjecariveri: see also gnome-tweaks to managing/controling your themes12:17
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Sven_vBhi! what's the current best approach on Ubuntu to remix camera streams, like switching cams, adding news flash panels etc., live and providing the output as a virtual camera device13:11
Sven_vB?13:11
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faekjarz[19.10] Hi! Is /var/log/syslog still a thing, in the new-age of systemD? Also, is it the complete thing, with ALL the loggy loggers? I mean, can i 'tail' it and not wait for journalctl to process YEARS of logs?13:53
myphsHello, I got Ubuntu Mate running on my laptop. I got two issues with it: (1.) The screen brightness is always dimming after a while when the computer gets no input and when it gets any input the screen is brighter than when idling, but not as bright as I set it before. (2) The keyboard backlight is always turning on after a while automatically. I don't want this. I want the backlight to stay as I set it. Thanks!13:54
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dbuggerHi everyone14:48
dbuggerIs there a way to find out if, a certain Wifi Signal is on the 2.4 Ghz band or the 5Ghz band?14:48
rapidwaveHow can I turn off unattended upgrade? I've disabled it and rebooted, just can't seem to get rid of it. It's keeping me from using apt14:54
leftyfbdbugger: sudo iw dev <your wifi interface> scan14:57
leftyfbdbugger: then look at the primary channel.14:57
leftyfbrapidwave: sudo apt remove unattended-upgrades14:57
leftyfbrapidwave: as I told you 2 days ago14:58
rapidwaveIt says it cannot get lock14:59
leftyfbrapidwave: ps -ef |egrep "dpkg|apt"15:00
leftyfbrapidwave: find the pid's of those processes still running dpkg or apt and kill them, then try again15:00
feannagwith following file permissions https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MHCH4pqVGx/, is there a way to cat foo.txt from bar?15:00
leftyfbfeannag: using sudo. Otherwise, no15:01
leftyfbfeannag: unless you add foo to the root group(don't)15:01
rapidwaveI did that, but dpkg/apt process keeps coming back immediately15:02
dbuggerleftyfb, the primary channel says "6". What does that mean?15:02
leftyfbdbugger: 2.4ghz15:02
dbuggerWhat value would it be, if it was 5Ghz?15:03
leftyfbdbugger: https://www.ekahau.com/blog/2019/04/18/channel-planning-best-practices-for-better-wi-fi/15:04
kedenI'm trying to upgrade/update some packacked on 19.10 and some sources don't seem to work. The output says that it tries to fetch them with "eoan InRelease" whereas my sources.list says "eoan main". Any ideas?15:04
leftyfbdbugger: there's information there including 2 charts showing channel utilization15:04
rapidwaveI keep killing the processes, they keep coming back15:04
leftyfbkeden: likely your network/ISP/routing blocking the repo.15:04
rapidwaveThey are daily update processes15:04
leftyfbrapidwave: will it come back right this moment after killing them? (I don't think so)15:05
dbuggerI see, thanks!15:05
kedenleftyfb:15:05
rapidwaveYes,15:05
leftyfbrapidwave: kill the processes and remove the lock file and then remove the package15:05
rapidwaveWhere is the lock file?15:06
kedenleftyfb: Are you saying that it's my network/ISP/routing replacing "eoan main" to "eoan InRelease" somehow?15:06
leftyfbrapidwave: it tells you in the error message15:06
leftyfbkeden: no, that part is normal, ignore it. Your issue is contacting one of the repo's, not the naming of the branch15:06
kedenleftyfb: Okay, gotcha! Thanks.15:07
feannagleftyfb, so if the txt file and the executable belong to the same group(say baz) then it is possible right?15:09
rapidwaveIs this saying apt is running? skinux   27670 30090  0 07:09 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -E --color=auto dpkg|apt15:09
leftyfbrapidwave: no, that's your command15:09
leftyfbrapidwave: ps -ef |egrep "[d]pkg|[a]pt"  # this will prevent that from showing up15:10
rapidwaveFinally. Had to kill it, remove lock file and kill it again15:11
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rapidwaveThank you15:11
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JoeS-HomeLabanyone good with kvm bridge networks? for some reason i cannot get my guest network to work.15:52
JoeS-HomeLabanyone good with kvm bridge networks? for some reason i cannot get my guest network to work.15:56
leftyfb!repeat | JoeS-HomeLab15:58
ubottuJoeS-HomeLab: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/15:58
r3muxdanyone know when 20.04 will pick up 3.36? 3.35.91 as-is is broken horribly16:20
r3muxdor if there's a PPA16:21
lotuspsychjer3muxd: #ubuntu+1 please16:21
r3muxdthanks16:21
leftyfbr3muxd: I'm really curious, what package version are you referring it?16:31
r3muxdgnome-shell 3.3616:31
r3muxdit has this PR in it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/103116:31
r3muxdit fixes an issue with extension preferences not being openable16:31
leftyfbr3muxd: ok, then you need to make that clear .... in #ubuntu+1 for now. But going forward, you can't just call out version numbers and expect people to know what package you're referring to16:32
r3muxdok, my bad16:32
instigatorHello. does ufw support boolean logic so that you can add rule that doesnt match a certain subnet like !192.168.2.0/24?16:59
tomtomblobhi. im operating ubuntu 19.10. when I try to install wine32 I get "wine32:i386 : Depends: libwine:i386 (= 4.0.2-1) but it is not going to be installed" .. what is the problem? I also tried to install via winehq repo and other solutions recommended here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1183394/how-to-install-wine-in-ubuntu-19-1017:03
tomtomblobhttps://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu17:04
pragmaticenigmatomtomblob: That often appears when you have packages marked as held in apt... first make sure you have removed the PPA... the volunteers here cannot support software from those as we're not aware of what they include.17:05
oerhekssudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # should be the full instructions to add i38617:09
tomtomblobpragmaticenigma here is my apt sources https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rh36M5dtTg/17:17
tomtombloboerheks I still get the same error after your instructions :-/17:17
ioriatomtomblob, not sure, but the problem is with 'libpulse0:i386' package, a dependency  ; if you try to install it manually it will remove around 50 packages ( apt -s install libpulse0:i386 )17:20
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tomtomblobioria ok, how did you find this out? I'd like to understand better17:21
ioriatomtomblob,i told you17:21
myphsUbuntu Mate on Thinkpad T470: changing brightness takes quite a lot time. Is there a way to improve brightness changing time?17:24
tomtomblobhere is the output when I try to install libwine:386 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pqjqhrf23j/17:34
tomtomblobsorry, libwine:i368 that is17:34
furyanyone know how to get rid of the "low disk space" notification? the examine and ignore buttons are not responding (I'm clicking them, but it's just clicking whatever's behind the notification popup, but the popup is staying on top of everything)17:35
furyi'm on 18.0417:35
oerheksdid you run updates properly? sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade #  and reboot17:35
leftyfbfury: clean your drive so you don't get the notification?17:36
tomtomblobyes I did as you recommended. reboot is necessary?17:36
furyi did :D i have over 100 gigs free now, but it won't go away17:36
leftyfbfury: reboot17:36
furyoof. in the middle of compiling a 70 gig project, i'll have to wait :D17:36
furywas hoping there was a "sudo killall notifications" or something17:36
furythanks!17:37
leftyfbfury: you could also just log out and back in17:37
ioriatomtomblob,   apt -s install libasound2:i38617:37
oerhekstomtomblob, if it contains a kernel, you should, check if "cat /var/run/reboot-required  " exist17:37
tomtombloboerheks after apt dist-upgrade I get ... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:37
furyhmm... if i would've thought to put that compile session into a "screen" i could do that now17:37
furyoh well17:37
ioriatomtomblob, try to simulate the installation of libasound2:i386 ; if it works , do the same for libglib2.0-0:i386 and so on17:43
rabbitnightmareok so I keep running into this error See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.17:45
rabbitnightmareit cant be securely done and is disabled17:45
rabbitnightmarehow do I bypass this garbage so I can use my pc properly17:46
rabbitnightmarestop blocking my apps please17:46
bomzh1018any good tutorials/overviews on partitioning during installation? Eg how to setup /home/ so that you don't have to lose it during reinstall, what size should system partition be, what size should swap be, etc17:47
bomzh1018(and how to pick up existing home/ subdirs after reinstall)17:48
rabbitnightmarelaunch gnome disks17:49
rabbitnightmaremake your partitions, make sure the boot / volume is ext417:49
rabbitnightmareadd a swap partition about the size of your ram17:49
rabbitnightmaremake /home btrfs17:49
rabbitnightmareapply, close17:49
rabbitnightmarethen start the installer17:49
rabbitnightmarewhen it goes to the screen where it asks to erase, click "something else"17:50
bomzh1018is gnome disks part of Ubuntu live USB?17:50
rabbitnightmareclick the drive you want it installed to, and it will install it17:50
rabbitnightmareshould be17:50
bomzh1018I have Gparted now - is it different?17:50
bomzh1018so if I make new user w/ same name as old user, old home would be picked up automatically?17:51
tomtomblobioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KM85qqvkzD/17:51
tomtomblobioria im quite new to Ubuntu, not sure what to make out of these messages17:52
rabbitnightmaregparted works17:53
tomtomblobNote, selecting 'libasound2-data' instead of 'libasound2-data:i386'17:53
tomtomblobi guess Im stuck is so called "wine dependency hell" :-)17:54
fd2hi all. how to make autojoin to that channel ? i use HexChat. I set "Autojoin" in popup menu, but when i am starting HexChat - i loggin to #ubuntu-unreged17:55
ioriatomtomblob, i said 'apt -s install libasound2:i386'17:56
tomtomblobioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qkj9gM8N6c/17:57
ioriatomtomblob,  apt-cache policy libasound2-data:i38617:58
tomtomblobioria could you explain a bit to me what is going on? ubuntu has trouble installing i368 packages parallel to 64 bit packages?17:58
bomzh1018how much space should I put for system partition - eg would 20 GB be enough? (Ubuntu MATE)17:58
ioriatomtomblob,  i think the regular install is broken and (possibly) requires the 'proposed' repo17:59
tomtomblobioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GfQbpQxB3w/18:00
ioriatomtomblob, yes, it asks for libasound2-data:i386 but libasound2-data:i386 does not exists18:01
tomtomblobso what to do? am I missing a repo?18:01
tomtomblobif so which one?18:02
ioriatomtomblob, is that a vm / test machine or your main pc ?18:02
tomtomblobioria main pc18:02
tomtomblobioria why?18:03
ioriatomtomblob, if it's a test machine you can try to enable the 'proposed' repository18:03
ioriatomtomblob, that's why in proposed libasound2-data is > 1.1.9-0ubuntu118:04
pyusrhmm... maybe python should define an /usr/bin/python2_or_3 so  scripts that do "#!/usr/bin/env python" like poetry, can work on systems that don't have python 2 by default (like new ubuntu versions) ?18:05
Sven_vBcan someone help me mount my ESP with group adm instead of root? man mount says gid= is supported, but it's not in the mount options after the ESP is mounted. http://paste.debian.net/plainh/a3e48d0818:05
ioriatomtomblob, but in general, proposed is not recommended18:05
tomtomblobioria sorry, Im not a daily ubuntu user, just helping a friend here. what is the "proposed" repository exactly?18:06
iorialets' say this :18:06
ioria!info libasound2-data eoan18:06
ubottulibasound2-data (source: alsa-lib): Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 41 kB, installed size 651 kB18:06
ioria!info libasound2-data eoan-proposed18:06
ubottulibasound2-data (source: alsa-lib): Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-0ubuntu1.2 (eoan-proposed), package size 42 kB, installed size 684 kB18:06
ioriatomtomblob, you see the version is higher : 1.1.9-0ubuntu1.2 and the apt log says : libasound2:i386 : Depends: libasound2-data:i386 (>= 1.1.9-0ubuntu1)18:08
rfmSven_vB, try the numeric gid (4) instead of the group name18:08
Sven_vBrfm, gid=4 disappeared from the mount options as well, and the owner group is root.18:11
Sven_vBon another machine where the ESP resides on an embedded memory card, lsb_release -sd18:14
Sven_vB= "Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS" but the gid=adm does not disappear, it just changes to gid=4: mount | grep esp = "/dev/mmcblk1p1 on /mnt/esp type vfat (rw,noatime,gid=4,fmask=0113,???"18:14
Sven_vBoh I think the latter runs an hwe kernel. I'll try that.18:15
tomtomblobioria, sorry I lost connection to the server. did you have any more ideas how to resolve my issue with installing wine32 on ubuntu 19.10?18:20
ioriatomtomblob, apt-cache policy wine3218:24
Sven_vBman update-initramfs says "-u    This mode updates an existing initramfs.", but mine seems to totally ignore the initrds in /boot. I made sure there are none on the ESP, so that can't confuse it either. I can even delete all of them, it will still not generate one for the currently booted kernel. "uname -r && update-initramfs -u¶ 4.4.0-176-lowlatency¶ update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-91-lowlatency"18:24
tomtomblobioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTHZfn6VMm/18:25
pyusrtomtomblob: use dockers ?18:26
TJ-Sven_vB: "update-initramfs -uvk $(uname -r)"18:28
Sven_vBTJ-, thanks, it actually guessed my intent anyway, I just don't understand how. :)18:29
TJ-Sven_vB: -u with no -k version will (try to) update the most recent kernel package version installed18:29
Sven_vBTJ-, as in, I plan to boot the hwe kernel next reboot anyway18:29
Sven_vBoooh I see18:29
Sven_vBthen "existing" is just a very bad description18:30
TJ-Sven_vB: under "man update-initramfs" "-k" -> "... The default is the latest kernel version."18:31
TJ-Sven_vB: which would be the HWE18:31
Sven_vBTJ-, yeah I meant the man page description of -u.18:31
TJ-hmmm, looks sane to me: "This mode updates an existing initramfs"18:32
Sven_vByeah and instead it generates one for the latest kernel even if no initrd exists prior to the command.18:32
Sven_vBand if one for an old kernel exists, it doesn't care which version18:33
Sven_vBmisleading because in my case I had exactly one existing initrd, for an old kernel.18:33
TJ-I don't see any misunderstanding. "-u" will update an existing /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION if it exists, else it'll create it.18:34
TJ-"-u" has *nothing* to do with which version it works on, that is for "-k" - and when you *omit* "-k" the LATEST installed kernel package version is targeted18:35
Sven_vBthen it's probably just my language skills. thanks for your opinion! :)18:38
ioriatomtomblob, apt -s install libasound2:i38618:42
jmcguckinwhere can i get help with ubuntu install problems?19:19
pyusrmaybe here ?19:22
jmcguckininstalling 18.04LTS fails with a 'provided target dir /target was not empty' log message.19:24
pyusrand you are installing it on a formated drive ?19:26
jmcguckin it previously has FreeBSD installed. Wouldn't it wipe any previous OS before installing Linux?19:27
oerheksit should, but a faulty sector/dirty disk could prevent write actions.19:29
oerheksboot a live iso, and do a fsck19:29
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting19:29
p0aHello I somehow broke my emacs launcher button19:35
p0ahow can I fix it? I can still launch emacs from alt+f2 typing `emacs'19:36
zutatwhere is this button?19:36
p0azutat: left side bar19:37
zutatp0a: if the launcher in "applications" still works, just remove the button from the side bar and drag it there again19:39
p0azutat: what launcher?19:43
p0aisn't _that_ the launcher? :S19:43
oerhekshow did you broke the emacs launcher?19:48
p0aaaah I remember. Nevermind. I actually modified the thing under applications/ to be emacsclient instead of emacs19:49
p0abecause I'm using `browse' in a bash script19:49
p0aI'll make another launcher to launch `emacs'. Thank you all19:49
jmcguckinzero'ing out the disk seemed to fix it. Evidently the installed was confused by yhr existing GPT label19:54
jmcguckinthanks!19:54
p0aHow do I add something to the launcher?19:54
p0aI created an emacs2.desktop under /usr/share/applications/ and now I'd like to add it to the dock thingie sidebar on the left19:54
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badsekturbro, what is this "snap" thing? is it going to replace apt?20:04
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GoopWhat do you call the top bar on Ubuntu Unity desktop?20:06
spython01Goop: the menu bar? or status bar?20:07
Sven_vBMy earlier problem of gid= being ignored for mount -t vfat, that seems to have been a problem of the 4.4.0-176-lowlatency kernel indeed. with 4.15.0-91-lowlatency it works as expected.20:08
Goopthe bar that gives you options. For example, in Firefox, you have "file", "edit", and "view" on the top bar.20:08
GoopYou also have the time displayed.20:08
spython01Goop: Not sure if it has an official title, but I've called that the menu bar.  Sometimes, it's hidden in Firefox and you have to go into the Options to view it20:10
GoopI don't like how Gnome eats away more computer screen space with their double menu bar. Is there any tweaks or alternative desktop environments? I need to get around to upgrading my distribution from Ubuntu 16.04.20:11
spython01I am still running stock Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity on my laptop so not familiar with your specific issue but there are plenty of desktop environments to choose from20:12
imihi, how do I upgrade from 18.04.4 to 18.04.5 or whaterver is the newest LTS20:12
spython01Goop:  there are also the Unity Tweak Tool and Gnome Tweak Tools that can help customize your desktop if you don't want to choose a completely new desktop enviornment20:13
ioriaimi, what release have  you installed  ?    cat /var/log/installer/media-info20:16
ericusNeed some help here, a Ubuntu server has a new cert for ssh20:17
ericusunexptected20:17
imiioria: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180725) -- however lsb_release -a says it's Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS20:17
ericusThe authenticity of host xxxx can't be established.20:17
ioriaimi, uname -r20:17
imiioria: 4.15.0-88-generic20:18
ioriaimi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack20:19
ioriaimi, basically   sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.0420:19
imiok, I'll check it, thanks20:19
ioriaimi, btw, 18.04.5 will be released in August20:20
imigreat then it's going to be painless to upgrade this time maybe20:21
pyusrhas anybody managed an distribution upgrade (14->16 or 16-> 18) without formating their computer ?20:21
imido I need to do it in screen and/or in text terminal?20:22
imiioria: ok, this particular linux is installed inside virtualbox (under up-to-date ubuntu 19.10), apt-get autoremove removed virtualbox tools, and now when it starts the screen goes blank I need to un-fullscren it to make the X show up. is there a way to fix this?20:38
pyusrreinstall virtualbox tools ?20:39
Alericpyusr: I think I did that.20:41
Aleric16 -> 1820:41
pyusrand did it work ? :)  I never mange it to get to work20:41
AlericI can't really remember.  Normally any big upgrade breaks a lot of stuff for me too.  Sorry bad memory.20:42
AlericIt's possible it was rather painless, or something went wrong and I fixed it.20:42
AlericHmm, actually remember...20:42
AlericI ran out of harddisk space during the upgrade, that was painful; but I recovered from that.20:42
AlericSo yeah, I think it was pretty painless (apart from having to recover from a half succeeded upgrade)20:43
ioriaimi, i don't play much with virtualbox;   try to install virtualbox-guest-dkms-hwe  and/or virtualbox-guest-x11-hwe  and virtualbox-guest-utils-hwe20:48
imiok I'll try. thank you20:49
AlericThere are logs that show what was removed.20:49
garotosopaHi. I have Night Light activated but when I log in, it briefly works but then the light gets back to normal. Then I have to disable Night Light and turn it on again. Has anyone experience this problem? Any advice to get this fixed?20:49
Intelo$ sudo apt install winehq-staging     winehq-staging : Depends: wine-staging (= 5.3~bionic)21:14
InteloE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.21:14
oerhekswine ppa is not supported, join #winehq for that21:17
Intelok21:17
Intelooerheks, ubuntu has no builtin wine support?21:18
oerhekssure, https://launchpad.net/wine , but not the -staging version21:19
djustice'support' being people who can talk you through your issues with said software.21:19
oerheksjups, except application help21:19
Intelooerheks, how can I install wine?21:22
Intelooerheks, this is official ubuntu help page. I tried it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine21:23
oerhekssudo apt install wine # gives an error and 2 options21:24
oerhekswine-stable or wine-development21:24
oerheksoh, yes, you need i386. sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38621:24
oerhekswine is also on snapcraft.10 https://snapcraft.io/wine-platform-runtime21:25
oerheksbut i woul hold on apt.21:26
Intelooerheks,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TthbdRVrpv/21:27
oerheksafter adding such i386, run a proper update?21:28
oerhekssudo apt dist-upgrade preferrably21:28
djusticeprobably not required..21:29
Intelooerheks, yes21:29
Intelooerheks,  for dist. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.21:30
oerheksodd, here it works fine, i guess you just ran apt dist-upgrade, not apt update ( for new lists and calculation)21:38
togomy new ubuntu studio came with Parole Media player preinstalled, which has 2 buglike strange behaviours: 1 there always is a colorful flickering bottom line on every video 2. only one instance can run?21:39
Guest_4how do i install ubuntu on machine with nvidia gtx 650, when i boot ubuntu 18.04.4 from usb my screen turn black with a few glitched pixels. how can i fix it21:40
oerhekstogo, there is a dedicated channel too, #ubuntustudio21:41
togooerheks, thanks!21:41
oerheksGuest_4, nomodeset perhaps?21:41
oerheks!nomodeset21:41
ubottuSystems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.21:41
togoGuest_4, why run 18.xxx its 20?21:41
oerheks18.04 is LTS21:42
oerheks20.04 lts is not out yet21:42
Eickmeyertogo: That could be anything from screen tearing in the compositor to the video driver to many other things. Might not be a bug. Needs more troubleshooting.21:43
pokgakHi, can someone point me where to report bugs for FIrefox snap app?21:43
Guest_4i tried nomodeset but what can i do after that, bc when i restarted my computer it went black and to turn it up again i had to install linux again and run it with nomodeset21:43
Intelooerheks, I added $ sudo snap install wine-platform-runtime  now what?21:44
Guest_4should i install some gpu drivers?21:44
Intelooerheks, going to restart21:45
Guest_4if so how do i do that?21:47
Intelooerheks, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PYmNj5gNhm/21:49
Intelooerheks, there?21:51
InteloCan anyone tell how to install wine?, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PYmNj5gNhm/21:53
oerheksyou have a mix of http and https, install apt-transport-https for that21:57
oerheks!info apt-transport-https21:57
ubottuapt-transport-https (source: apt): transitional package for https support. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.4 (eoan), package size 1 kB, installed size 153 kB21:57
leftyfbIntelo: sudo apt install wine6421:58
leftyfbIntelo: or wine3221:59
Guest_4i tried nomodeset but what can i do after that, bc when i restarted my computer it went black and to turn it up again i had to install linux again and run it with nomodeset, should i install some gpu drivers? if so how do i do that?21:59
leftyfbIntelo: also: sudo apt install -f22:00
Inteloleftyfb, doing22:12
imiwhat's the difference between virtualbox-guest-x11 and virtualbox-guest-x11-hwe?22:13
imiwhich one do I need?22:14
imido I need the dkms as well?22:14
imido I need virtualbox-guest-utils?22:15
imihow do I decide if I do?22:15
EriC^^yes22:16
imiEriC^^: was that "yes" meant for me? which question(s) of mine were your intention to answer with that "yes"?22:17
bray90820Maybe someone here can help me no local video files play and streaming sites such as youtube don't work ether22:17
bray90820local video files stop at 0:00 I can scrub and see the frame but the video does not play youtube just acts like it's continuously loading22:17
bray90820Ubuntu 18.0422:18
EriC^^imi: hwe is the hardware enablement package, you only need it if you're running the hwe stack and kernel22:18
EriC^^!hwe | imi22:18
ubottuimi: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack22:18
EriC^^imi: guest utils would be useful, there's supposed to be a package or cd or something you can 'insert' from virtualbox, then run it on the guest22:19
EriC^^guest additions iso iirc22:19
imiEriC^^: in this case the guest is an ubuntu as well22:20
imiok so my understanding is that it's safe and recommended to use the hwe packages if they are available22:22
bray90820Maybe someone here can help me why would VLC play MP4 files on ubuntu but other apps just sit at 00:0022:22
bray90820Oops meant to send that is a different channel but the the question still stands22:23
imibray90820: have you tried mpv ?22:24
bray90820Is that the one that comes with ubntu?22:25
imialso, maybe the other players are unaware of a certain codec installed or a certain format22:25
imiit can be installed22:25
bray90820Sites like youtube don't work ether22:25
bray90820Any ideas?22:27
oerheksvlc has its own codec pack, install restricted-extras for multimedia and webplugins22:28
bray90820oerheks: it's installed already22:29
oerheksinteresting, then that mp4 uses a non standard codec.22:31
oerheksand firefox should play youtube fine22:31
imiseems like linux-image-hwe-18.04 is incompatible with virtualbox-duest-dkms-hwe whichever I install removes the other one22:32
clemonsWhere are the dependencies defined for some package foo when one runs the following command "sudo apt build-dep foo"?22:33
bray90820Youtube SHOULD play fine but it does not22:33
bray90820oerheks:22:33
clemonsIs that part of some database managed by apt or dpkg or something?22:33
oerheksbray90820, so what is so special in your setup?22:34
bray90820Nothing that I know is22:34
Bashing-ombray90820: libdvd-pkg ? See: ' apt show libdvd-pkg ' .22:36
oerheksit works in vlc, he claims22:37
oerheksi agree that the dvd package is needed in vlc too, for dvd movies and such22:37
Bashing-omoerheks: Odd then indeed :(22:38
oerheksyes, something fishy22:38
bray90820Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/raw/YrF3LgUn22:39
Bashing-ombray90820: "show' was for your info - is it installed ? what returns ' dpkg -l libdvd-pkg ' ?22:40
TJ-togo: very old but might give you some clues: https://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/06/try-fix-screen-flickering-video-playback-ubuntu/22:41
bray90820Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/raw/dDpBC2fD22:42
Bashing-ombray90820: Well it it installed :D ,,, Then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg .22:43
bray90820libdvd-pkg: guest package [libdvdcss2/1.4.2-1~local] is already installed.22:44
bray90820Bashing-om:22:45
Bashing-ombray90820: That result puzzles me - No idea :(22:46
TJ-bray90820: Bashing-om  video drivers/compositor issue I'd bet22:47
bray90820I really don't wanna have to reinstall ubuntu22:47
arepthello everyone22:48
Bashing-omTJ-: I can accept - I can not test any theory I may have, as on this work station I have no high level video/sound.22:49
TJ-clemons: dependencies are defined in the source package's debian/control file, which is contained in each binary package and its contents added to /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/available22:49
bray90820Bashing-om: So are you out of ideas then?22:50
TJ-bray90820: find out which compositor is in use - wayland or Xorg, and the video driver too.22:50
InteloHow can I change win environment. It says minimum requirements for this app is windows 11.22:57
Inteloleftyfb, ^22:57
oerhekssure there is a wine manual for that..wait, windows 11?22:58
leftyfb!wine | Intelo23:00
ubottuIntelo: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu23:00
togoTJ-, that is quite different, on the Parole Play<er issue it is just that very bottom line of the video, its mostly pink but some blinking patterns in it like it renders a line too much...23:00
clemonsTJ-: Perfect, thanks for the info23:01
TJ-togo: OK. As I said in -studio, it sounds like a compositor/driver issue with video overlays, which could be related to the age of the GPU and its available memory23:02
Intelooerheks, yes23:03
clemonsI'm trying to install a bunch of dependencies. apt-get tells me "E: Unable to locate package", but it gives me no indication of which package is unlocatable. What flag do I need to pass to get more verbose output?23:07
bpromptclemons:  you could always check -> sudo apt-get check <- maybe23:09
clemonsbprompt: Thanks for the suggestion. Turns out it was an issue with line continuations.23:12
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