[00:00] Aleric: you could try to workaround apt, but it's totally up to you, full disclosure [00:00] It would be nice if I could get more debug output from apt to see what the exact reason is. [00:01] /var/lib/dpkg/status should have the 'conflicts' and whatnot which you can modify to workaround apt [00:01] In a distant past I used nvidia's .run files and that screwed by my PC so much that I had to buy another PC (I kid you not) :/ [00:01] i'd say use the run file, probably a lot less headachy [00:02] That would mean I'd write over files installed by apt... so when later I run apt my OS will likely get screwed again. [00:03] Aleric: pretty sure they integrate it into apt and stuff, just purge all current ppa's etc and use as recommended by nvidia [00:03] It would mean that every time I run apt upgrade I have to do a lot of checks and rerun nvidia specific commands to keep my system sane - I don't think I understand this spaghetti enough to be able to do that. [00:03] If I purge all ppa's I won't have 32bit support. [00:03] didn't you say the nvidia works with 32bit? [00:04] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778 [00:04] This is thread from steam; but it describes part of the problem. [00:04] steam requires the i386 packages of the nvidia drivers. [00:04] cuda from nvidia does not support that. [00:05] So, if you install cuda, your 32bit stuff gets REMOVEd. [00:06] Nevertheless, some people post what they did to get it to work. So I think some change must be possible to the config of apt to get it to CLEANLY work. [00:08] E.g. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778#issuecomment-585396250 [00:08] "I purged all cuda stuffs from Nvidia's repo, Installed driver from graphic driver ppa to get 32 bit support then installed cuda with the .run file locally. It is simple and everything works." [00:09] Aleric: stuff one or the other in an lxd instance perhaps? [00:09] So ppl claim that "works", but it sounds very dirty and prone to corruption later on :/ [00:09] whats lxd? [00:10] lxd is a container tool that lets you 'run' multiple systems, similar to VMs, but with less overhead [00:10] What I'm trying to do is to get apt to install whatever the .run file installs, witout removing the 32bit stuff from graphic driver ppa. [00:10] nah [00:14] Hmm [00:15] I think I'll try to keep everything from the graphic driver ppa... and ONLY install the cuda files from the nvidia repository. That should work. The question is: how to convince apt to do that? [00:16] Basically I need to change the pinning to below 500 and then force it to install ignoring dependencies. [00:16] the 'equivs' package may help you fake up dependencies [00:24] cuda-drivers : Depends: libnvidia-compute-440 (>= 440.64.00) but 440.64-0ubuntu0~0.18.04.1 is to be installed [00:24] Why the hell isn't 440.64-0ubuntu0~0.18.04.1 >= 440.64.00 ?? [00:25] I'd say it is. [00:25] Is there is howto or manual for this equivs? === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [00:30] So tried to install 18.xx.. failed at grub install.. went to live session and threw a ubipartman error... [00:30] Wierdest thing ever [00:31] Any rhoughts? [00:34] what was the error? [00:49] hi all. i have installed image editor Pinta. There is some text in log 'Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/binfmt-support.service → /lib/systemd/system/binfmt-support.service.'. is that just creation of the link? (i am noob in linux) [00:51] fd2: that's a note from systemctl that it will try to start that binfmt-support.service when the computer boots normally [00:51] fd2: systemctl status binfmt-support.service will probably include a note where the documentation can be found, and a few log entries [01:36] sarnold, thank you [01:36] you're welcome fd2 :) [01:42] Hello, any idea how to fix this problem I have with my bluetooth earbuds, they connect and function properly for around 5 seconds and then disconnect [01:43] I tried in Arch too and same thing happened [01:44] linux bluetooth support is pretty poor [01:45] are there any messages in dmesg or bluez logs that might indicate a problem? [01:45] can you show me how to access those logs please [01:45] I'm using Ubuntu 19.10 vanilla minimal install [01:45] with latest updates [01:47] EriC^^, sarnold: thanks again... https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778#issuecomment-598507577 [01:47] However, ... it failed :/ [01:47] hmmpf [01:47] (No space left on device) [01:48] Oh [01:48] ugh [01:48] Both /usr and /usr/local are full! :/ [01:48] poro: for dmesg, just run "dmesg" in a terminal and look near the end if there's anything that looks bluetoothish [01:49] poro: for bluez, maybe /var/log/*blu* or maybe journalctl [01:55] https://pastebin.com/vi8WJR0t [01:57] poro: oh strange... is this an external dongle or built in to the machine? does the machine have "enough" power supply? [01:57] built in bluetooth, but I've read that some systems treat it as USB [01:58] yeah [01:58] but that does rule out "you need a powered hub" [01:58] hehe [01:58] yea it should have more than enough power supply, Its connected and I have no other usb stuff connected [01:58] the laptop is charging is what I mean when I said "its connected" [01:59] and is the laptop charger powerful enough for the task at hand? [01:59] eg not a 25 watt joke or something? :) [02:00] It's a modern Thinkpad with the original charger, full battery and charger is plugged in, task at hand is nothing except for this IRC client [02:00] so It should be ok [02:03] also other bluetooth devices work fine, is just this specific bluetooth earbuds that disconnect after a few seconds [02:04] it just took me weeks to narrow down a problem with my x1c that came down to "the monitor can't supply enough power over the usb-c to run the system at full speed" [02:04] are there any updates to install through fwupd? [02:05] sudo fwupdmgr refresh && sudo fwupdmgr update [02:08] doesnt update anything but gives a error message [02:08] Failed to update metadata for lvfs: '48A6D80E4538BAC2' is not a valid signature [02:10] https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues/391 [02:10] looks like "try again soon" is the outcome there :/ [02:11] yea, I was reading the same page [02:12] At least I managed to fix all the other issues, been distro hopping for the last few days because of this bluetooth issue, also failure of every DE to properly scale to my HiDPI display, and Japanese input not working or certain programs [02:13] If this gets fixed in a while my Ubuntu will be perfect haha [02:14] There is this minor issue with Gnome freezing when I copy files but that doesn't bother me much [02:15] can you move the mouse around? [02:15] when copying files? nope [02:15] well maybe every 10 seconds or so the mouse will move a little bit but not enough to be usable [02:16] poro: that's probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861359 [02:16] Launchpad bug 1861359 in linux (Ubuntu) "swap storms kills interactive use" [High,Confirmed] [02:16] it's happened to me a dozen times today. I'm grumpy about that... [02:17] Have you been copying files from or to a ntfs partition? [02:18] no, I almost never copy files; but can poke it through firefox or trying a ripgrep on a huge pile of data [02:18] sometimes git pulls will do it [02:19] oh so It's a swap problem [02:19] my swap is in a HDD so that probably makes it worse [02:20] the thing is, none of the systems where this has been reported have been anywhere close to the point where they *should* be swapping [02:20] I wish we could track this thing down [02:20] it doesn't make much sense [02:23] poro: as for the earbuds, probably http://www.bluez.org/contact/ the option :( [02:24] I'm trying to install the latest kernel I can find atm to see if that fixes it [02:24] if not I'll contact them [02:25] poro: these may be handy https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [02:25] thx [02:30] gotta reboot, thx for helping out! === veryloud is now known as NASA === NASA is now known as veryloud === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === nt0_ is now known as nt0 [05:48] Anybody know some brute force way of telling snap to chill [05:49] It got stuck in the middle of removing a package and even if I abort it it just keeps being stuck [05:49] not only I cant install or remove that package now but also the whole system is freezing for a few secs here and there [06:05] "apt purge snap" should work [06:06] i think there's also some way to have it repair its metadata store, though [06:06] will that remove snap completely? [06:07] or maybe other snap packages apart from the one Im having trouble with [07:04] does it matter which interface you define nameservers on with netplan? it seems not [07:04] In short, I had Ubuntu dual booted with win10, and I wanted to get rid of Ubuntu. Following a guide, I deleted the partition then tried to access the safe mode command prompt. My computer booted into a frozen GNU GRUB prompt and won' let me boot into any bootable devices === dmo139_ is now known as dmo139 [07:06] it should be possible to restore with some boot disk, you just need to have win10 write a boot sector [07:07] The computer boots straight into the frozen GNU GRUB [07:07] Won't boot into either my USB stick or USB disc drive [07:15] So am I just like SoL? [07:31] Tried something i feel is dynamically stupid but works. So tldr to access the drive plugs I have to pop off the front panel, which has the power button, which is connected via 3 contact pins so I popped it off, Unplugged the ssd, popped back in, turned on, and my computer booted into the Ubuntu live CD instead of the windows USB. So after I'm at [07:31] the gnu grub boot manager, I plugged the ssd back in and am now starting to get a live session. [07:33] So yeah, once I'm in, is there some terminal command to fix the boot table, or boot into UEFI? [07:37] Or I guess more accurately remove grub so I have just window's boot loader [07:38] Puru_Shill: you need to install the windows bootloader from windows, so try ##windows [07:38] Alright, so is there a command from Ubuntu to boot into UEFI so I can boot into windows? [07:40] Looks like googling suggests "systemctl reboot --firmware-setup"? [07:40] if grub is properly installed, it can have an entry to enter uefi firmware [07:42] As I mentioned earlier, I had windows and Ubuntu dual booted, but in an attempt to get rid of Ubuntu, following a guide, I removed the Ubuntu partition, and tried to boot to a windows USB stick [07:42] Instead I get booted into a frozen GNU GRUB prompt [07:44] Well that systemctl command did the job [07:47] And back in Windows. Thanks === The_Milkman1 is now known as The_Milkman === The_Milkman1 is now known as The_Milkman === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [08:26] Hey guys, is there any way I can make a script that pulls data over ssh accessible to another user that can call it but use my user ssh key? [08:33] can anybody help me find a freezing cause i tried this workaround but it still freezes https://askubuntu.com/questions/761706/ubuntu-15-10-and-16-04-keep-freezing-randomly? [08:39] PCatinean: maybe the other script runs in a cron job getting the files [08:41] PCatinean: or there's a script running as your user, and when the other user runs his script it instructs the other to download the file [08:41] EriC^^, that is also a possibility and not a bad one. This is a docker image of debian and I want to set it maybe at entrypoint [08:41] EriC^^, how could I achieve that? [08:41] This is basically just to rsync some files over ssh and I don't want the unprivileged user to have access to ssh keys just do handle this operation [08:42] PCatinean: you could use inotifywait, when it detects a file somewhere, it starts the 'download script' (as your main user) [08:43] hmmm [08:43] and cleans up the file for a new wait [08:43] So it looks for a created file you mean? [08:43] yeah [08:44] and I would have to create a random file in order to trigger this script? [08:44] yeah [08:44] sounds a bit hacky but could work I guess [08:45] yeah, not an IT tech here, so it's a fwiw :D [08:46] but it's a solution indeed, thanks for the suggestion EriC^^ <3 [08:46] the guys in ##Linux might know of a more defacto kind of thing for it, give it a go there as well i'd say [08:46] might be easier and better solution, worth a shot [08:46] no problem :) === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [08:50] brb [08:57] earth is cancelled [08:57] lets reload from the last savepoint [08:57] oh, sorry.. automatic restore point creation was disabled due to disk space concerns [08:57] last backup we have is ..... 65 million years ago [08:57] Fuck it. . . let 'er rip! [08:57] CrtxReavr: The restore failed. Now the state is corrupted. [08:58] !ot | Gapi [08:58] Gapi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [08:59] was copy past from ipv6 channel === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [09:25] is there any way to debug why, after several hours, static routes i set up are removed by *something*? === The_Milkman1 is now known as The_Milkman [10:09] cat test.php | pastebinit wwhy does that cmd not work? === leion1 is now known as leion [10:11] funabashi: does it give any error [10:14] no [10:14] I guess its because of php code [10:15] funabashi: try 'cat test.php | nc termbin.com 9999' [10:15] yes but it can be nice to undertand why this pastebinit doesnt work [10:15] ducasse: but thanks for another solution [10:16] probably the server tries to interpret the php [10:17] funabashi: does 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit' not work? [10:17] ducasse: ye. but i have another question for you. lets say i want my website how can i make that? like "cat test.php | nc mywebsite 9999" ? [10:17] i sincerely doubt it's running the php code [10:17] yep its due the php [10:17] no [10:18] EriC^^: i guess but you are better than me [10:19] well, it seems it doesn't allow php code, returns an empty link [10:19] it's definitely not parsing it though, cause that would be a major security hole [10:19] yes, it just seems to block it, i guess [10:19] paste.ubuntu.com says "PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed" [10:20] pastebinit can use other sites, though [10:20] funabashi: to make your own terminal paste uploader you can clone termbin's "engine" https://github.com/solusipse/fiche [10:20] true [10:22] thanks [10:22] funabashi: fwiw you can also make an alias on your pc, alias pasteit='nc termbin.com 9999' , then do cat file | pasteit [10:23] np [10:24] ^^ [10:29] hello, I have a SD card in a USB cardreader that mounts itself when I insert if (so far so good), but it is only root-accessible, not by my user ... any suggestions? [10:39] hello i having problem on ubuntu 19 where the it keep asking me for wifi password [10:39] solved, just chown user.user fixed it [10:41] CQ is it the answer? [10:41] i lost picture on my external monitor. the display is detected, and the picture shows up in the login screen, but then the screen goes blank ant stays like that. this is a relatively fresh installation of ubuntu 19.10 [10:42] bryanroderyck, answer to my problem, not to yours [10:42] bryanroderyck, google it, or see if there is a "save this password" setting somewhere [10:45] ok CQ thanks for your help ..but there are no save option and i havent found any solution [10:46] jpnurmi: try 'xrandr --auto' [10:52] Hiyas all [10:57] ducasse: thanks. doesn't seem to have any effect [11:01] Hello. I freshly installed Ubuntu Server 18.04 on a server, connected the ethernet cable, however on set-up it said that no ethernet is available. When I boot into the system, I also have no internet connection. When I use "ifconfig" I don't see my ethernet adapter. When I use ip addr show I see enp3s0. When I use ifconfig enp3s0 up I still don't [11:01] have internet. What exactly do I need to do? [11:06] sudo systemctl enable network-manager, then sudo systemctl start network-manager [11:06] I don't have network-manager on ubuntu server (?), but I just managed to set it up using "netplan" [11:09] i need to install an old version of gcc is there a way to do this without having to dl all the dependencies? [11:09] i need to install gcc version 7.4 [11:10] jpnurmi: you can try installing arandr and see if you can activate the screen there [11:10] theborger, older GCC will have older dependencies, so I don't think that you can get arount that [11:12] CQ: dang i did not want to do this by hand [11:12] theborger, by hand? If you install the old gcc, it shold pull those in automatically [11:12] how do i install it? [11:12] i have the .deb [11:13] but it will not install i am using dpgk [11:13] apt-cache search gcc ... then look for the old version which should still be around, then sudo apt install it [11:13] ah ok [11:15] apt show gcc-7 ... looks like that will install 7.5 thoug [11:16] yea i dont see 7.4 [11:17] ducasse: apparently it's somehow related to screen brightness :) [11:18] CQ: any other ideas? [11:21] ducasse: it's a dell xps 7590, and i did install something called icc-brightness earlier to make the screen brightness buttons work at all. i don't know if it was powertop or some updates that i pulled in yesterday that may have broken things again. now the brightness buttons don't have any effect on the laptop screen, and completely random result on the external monitor :( [11:22] why do you specifically need 7.4? [11:23] installing an older version of VMware workstation [11:23] dpkg -I package.deb [11:23] 7.4 and 7.5 should be close enough.... else list the dependencies and install them [11:24] how do i list and install the deps? [11:24] the only way i know to do it is download them one at a time and install that way [11:25] dpkg -I like I just showed [11:25] ok [11:26] CQ: how do i install these dependencies? just search for them? [11:26] if it says something like libabc-dbg just apt install libabc-dbg === tyras_ is now known as Tyras [11:56] Hi. I installed a theme to tweak the appreance and it all works. except for the application context menus. the contrast of background a font color is too low to read it properly. Any ideas? [12:17] !themes | cariveri [12:17] cariveri: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [12:17] cariveri: see also gnome-tweaks to managing/controling your themes === andycooper is now known as andycooper_home [13:11] hi! what's the current best approach on Ubuntu to remix camera streams, like switching cams, adding news flash panels etc., live and providing the output as a virtual camera device [13:11] ? === jelly-home is now known as jelly === jelly-home is now known as jelly [13:53] [19.10] Hi! Is /var/log/syslog still a thing, in the new-age of systemD? Also, is it the complete thing, with ALL the loggy loggers? I mean, can i 'tail' it and not wait for journalctl to process YEARS of logs? [13:54] Hello, I got Ubuntu Mate running on my laptop. I got two issues with it: (1.) The screen brightness is always dimming after a while when the computer gets no input and when it gets any input the screen is brighter than when idling, but not as bright as I set it before. (2) The keyboard backlight is always turning on after a while automatically. I don't want this. I want the backlight to stay as I set it. Thanks! === peter-bittner1 is now known as peter-bittner [14:48] Hi everyone [14:48] Is there a way to find out if, a certain Wifi Signal is on the 2.4 Ghz band or the 5Ghz band? [14:54] How can I turn off unattended upgrade? I've disabled it and rebooted, just can't seem to get rid of it. It's keeping me from using apt [14:57] dbugger: sudo iw dev scan [14:57] dbugger: then look at the primary channel. [14:57] rapidwave: sudo apt remove unattended-upgrades [14:58] rapidwave: as I told you 2 days ago [14:59] It says it cannot get lock [15:00] rapidwave: ps -ef |egrep "dpkg|apt" [15:00] rapidwave: find the pid's of those processes still running dpkg or apt and kill them, then try again [15:00] with following file permissions https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MHCH4pqVGx/, is there a way to cat foo.txt from bar? [15:01] feannag: using sudo. Otherwise, no [15:01] feannag: unless you add foo to the root group(don't) [15:02] I did that, but dpkg/apt process keeps coming back immediately [15:02] leftyfb, the primary channel says "6". What does that mean? [15:02] dbugger: 2.4ghz [15:03] What value would it be, if it was 5Ghz? [15:04] dbugger: https://www.ekahau.com/blog/2019/04/18/channel-planning-best-practices-for-better-wi-fi/ [15:04] I'm trying to upgrade/update some packacked on 19.10 and some sources don't seem to work. The output says that it tries to fetch them with "eoan InRelease" whereas my sources.list says "eoan main". Any ideas? [15:04] dbugger: there's information there including 2 charts showing channel utilization [15:04] I keep killing the processes, they keep coming back [15:04] keden: likely your network/ISP/routing blocking the repo. [15:04] They are daily update processes [15:05] rapidwave: will it come back right this moment after killing them? (I don't think so) [15:05] I see, thanks! [15:05] leftyfb: [15:05] Yes, [15:05] rapidwave: kill the processes and remove the lock file and then remove the package [15:06] Where is the lock file? [15:06] leftyfb: Are you saying that it's my network/ISP/routing replacing "eoan main" to "eoan InRelease" somehow? [15:06] rapidwave: it tells you in the error message [15:06] keden: no, that part is normal, ignore it. Your issue is contacting one of the repo's, not the naming of the branch [15:07] leftyfb: Okay, gotcha! Thanks. [15:09] leftyfb, so if the txt file and the executable belong to the same group(say baz) then it is possible right? [15:09] Is this saying apt is running? skinux 27670 30090 0 07:09 pts/0 00:00:00 grep -E --color=auto dpkg|apt [15:09] rapidwave: no, that's your command [15:10] rapidwave: ps -ef |egrep "[d]pkg|[a]pt" # this will prevent that from showing up [15:11] Finally. Had to kill it, remove lock file and kill it again === myphs_ is now known as myphs [15:11] Thank you === paraxial2 is now known as paraxial [15:52] anyone good with kvm bridge networks? for some reason i cannot get my guest network to work. [15:56] anyone good with kvm bridge networks? for some reason i cannot get my guest network to work. [15:58] !repeat | JoeS-HomeLab [15:58] JoeS-HomeLab: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [16:20] anyone know when 20.04 will pick up 3.36? 3.35.91 as-is is broken horribly [16:21] or if there's a PPA [16:21] r3muxd: #ubuntu+1 please [16:21] thanks [16:31] r3muxd: I'm really curious, what package version are you referring it? [16:31] gnome-shell 3.36 [16:31] it has this PR in it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1031 [16:31] it fixes an issue with extension preferences not being openable [16:32] r3muxd: ok, then you need to make that clear .... in #ubuntu+1 for now. But going forward, you can't just call out version numbers and expect people to know what package you're referring to [16:32] ok, my bad [16:59] Hello. does ufw support boolean logic so that you can add rule that doesnt match a certain subnet like !192.168.2.0/24? [17:03] hi. im operating ubuntu 19.10. when I try to install wine32 I get "wine32:i386 : Depends: libwine:i386 (= 4.0.2-1) but it is not going to be installed" .. what is the problem? I also tried to install via winehq repo and other solutions recommended here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1183394/how-to-install-wine-in-ubuntu-19-10 [17:04] https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu [17:05] tomtomblob: That often appears when you have packages marked as held in apt... first make sure you have removed the PPA... the volunteers here cannot support software from those as we're not aware of what they include. [17:09] sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # should be the full instructions to add i386 [17:17] pragmaticenigma here is my apt sources https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rh36M5dtTg/ [17:17] oerheks I still get the same error after your instructions :-/ [17:20] tomtomblob, not sure, but the problem is with 'libpulse0:i386' package, a dependency ; if you try to install it manually it will remove around 50 packages ( apt -s install libpulse0:i386 ) === myphs_ is now known as myphs [17:21] ioria ok, how did you find this out? I'd like to understand better [17:21] tomtomblob,i told you [17:24] Ubuntu Mate on Thinkpad T470: changing brightness takes quite a lot time. Is there a way to improve brightness changing time? [17:34] here is the output when I try to install libwine:386 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pqjqhrf23j/ [17:34] sorry, libwine:i368 that is [17:35] anyone know how to get rid of the "low disk space" notification? the examine and ignore buttons are not responding (I'm clicking them, but it's just clicking whatever's behind the notification popup, but the popup is staying on top of everything) [17:35] i'm on 18.04 [17:35] did you run updates properly? sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot [17:36] fury: clean your drive so you don't get the notification? [17:36] yes I did as you recommended. reboot is necessary? [17:36] i did :D i have over 100 gigs free now, but it won't go away [17:36] fury: reboot [17:36] oof. in the middle of compiling a 70 gig project, i'll have to wait :D [17:36] was hoping there was a "sudo killall notifications" or something [17:37] thanks! [17:37] fury: you could also just log out and back in [17:37] tomtomblob, apt -s install libasound2:i386 [17:37] tomtomblob, if it contains a kernel, you should, check if "cat /var/run/reboot-required " exist [17:37] oerheks after apt dist-upgrade I get ... 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [17:37] hmm... if i would've thought to put that compile session into a "screen" i could do that now [17:37] oh well [17:43] tomtomblob, try to simulate the installation of libasound2:i386 ; if it works , do the same for libglib2.0-0:i386 and so on [17:45] ok so I keep running into this error See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. [17:45] it cant be securely done and is disabled [17:46] how do I bypass this garbage so I can use my pc properly [17:46] stop blocking my apps please [17:47] any good tutorials/overviews on partitioning during installation? Eg how to setup /home/ so that you don't have to lose it during reinstall, what size should system partition be, what size should swap be, etc [17:48] (and how to pick up existing home/ subdirs after reinstall) [17:49] launch gnome disks [17:49] make your partitions, make sure the boot / volume is ext4 [17:49] add a swap partition about the size of your ram [17:49] make /home btrfs [17:49] apply, close [17:49] then start the installer [17:50] when it goes to the screen where it asks to erase, click "something else" [17:50] is gnome disks part of Ubuntu live USB? [17:50] click the drive you want it installed to, and it will install it [17:50] should be [17:50] I have Gparted now - is it different? [17:51] so if I make new user w/ same name as old user, old home would be picked up automatically? [17:51] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KM85qqvkzD/ [17:52] ioria im quite new to Ubuntu, not sure what to make out of these messages [17:53] gparted works [17:53] Note, selecting 'libasound2-data' instead of 'libasound2-data:i386' [17:54] i guess Im stuck is so called "wine dependency hell" :-) [17:55] hi all. how to make autojoin to that channel ? i use HexChat. I set "Autojoin" in popup menu, but when i am starting HexChat - i loggin to #ubuntu-unreged [17:56] tomtomblob, i said 'apt -s install libasound2:i386' [17:57] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qkj9gM8N6c/ [17:58] tomtomblob, apt-cache policy libasound2-data:i386 [17:58] ioria could you explain a bit to me what is going on? ubuntu has trouble installing i368 packages parallel to 64 bit packages? [17:58] how much space should I put for system partition - eg would 20 GB be enough? (Ubuntu MATE) [17:59] tomtomblob, i think the regular install is broken and (possibly) requires the 'proposed' repo [18:00] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GfQbpQxB3w/ [18:01] tomtomblob, yes, it asks for libasound2-data:i386 but libasound2-data:i386 does not exists [18:01] so what to do? am I missing a repo? [18:02] if so which one? [18:02] tomtomblob, is that a vm / test machine or your main pc ? [18:02] ioria main pc [18:03] ioria why? [18:03] tomtomblob, if it's a test machine you can try to enable the 'proposed' repository [18:04] tomtomblob, that's why in proposed libasound2-data is > 1.1.9-0ubuntu1 [18:05] hmm... maybe python should define an /usr/bin/python2_or_3 so scripts that do "#!/usr/bin/env python" like poetry, can work on systems that don't have python 2 by default (like new ubuntu versions) ? [18:05] can someone help me mount my ESP with group adm instead of root? man mount says gid= is supported, but it's not in the mount options after the ESP is mounted. http://paste.debian.net/plainh/a3e48d08 [18:05] tomtomblob, but in general, proposed is not recommended [18:06] ioria sorry, Im not a daily ubuntu user, just helping a friend here. what is the "proposed" repository exactly? [18:06] lets' say this : [18:06] !info libasound2-data eoan [18:06] libasound2-data (source: alsa-lib): Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 41 kB, installed size 651 kB [18:06] !info libasound2-data eoan-proposed [18:06] libasound2-data (source: alsa-lib): Configuration files and profiles for ALSA drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-0ubuntu1.2 (eoan-proposed), package size 42 kB, installed size 684 kB [18:08] tomtomblob, you see the version is higher : 1.1.9-0ubuntu1.2 and the apt log says : libasound2:i386 : Depends: libasound2-data:i386 (>= 1.1.9-0ubuntu1) [18:08] Sven_vB, try the numeric gid (4) instead of the group name [18:11] rfm, gid=4 disappeared from the mount options as well, and the owner group is root. [18:14] on another machine where the ESP resides on an embedded memory card, lsb_release -sd [18:14] = "Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS" but the gid=adm does not disappear, it just changes to gid=4: mount | grep esp = "/dev/mmcblk1p1 on /mnt/esp type vfat (rw,noatime,gid=4,fmask=0113,???" [18:15] oh I think the latter runs an hwe kernel. I'll try that. [18:20] ioria, sorry I lost connection to the server. did you have any more ideas how to resolve my issue with installing wine32 on ubuntu 19.10? [18:24] tomtomblob, apt-cache policy wine32 [18:24] man update-initramfs says "-u This mode updates an existing initramfs.", but mine seems to totally ignore the initrds in /boot. I made sure there are none on the ESP, so that can't confuse it either. I can even delete all of them, it will still not generate one for the currently booted kernel. "uname -r && update-initramfs -u¶ 4.4.0-176-lowlatency¶ update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-91-lowlatency" [18:25] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTHZfn6VMm/ [18:26] tomtomblob: use dockers ? [18:28] Sven_vB: "update-initramfs -uvk $(uname -r)" [18:29] TJ-, thanks, it actually guessed my intent anyway, I just don't understand how. :) [18:29] Sven_vB: -u with no -k version will (try to) update the most recent kernel package version installed [18:29] TJ-, as in, I plan to boot the hwe kernel next reboot anyway [18:29] oooh I see [18:30] then "existing" is just a very bad description [18:31] Sven_vB: under "man update-initramfs" "-k" -> "... The default is the latest kernel version." [18:31] Sven_vB: which would be the HWE [18:31] TJ-, yeah I meant the man page description of -u. [18:32] hmmm, looks sane to me: "This mode updates an existing initramfs" [18:32] yeah and instead it generates one for the latest kernel even if no initrd exists prior to the command. [18:33] and if one for an old kernel exists, it doesn't care which version [18:33] misleading because in my case I had exactly one existing initrd, for an old kernel. [18:34] I don't see any misunderstanding. "-u" will update an existing /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION if it exists, else it'll create it. [18:35] "-u" has *nothing* to do with which version it works on, that is for "-k" - and when you *omit* "-k" the LATEST installed kernel package version is targeted [18:38] then it's probably just my language skills. thanks for your opinion! :) [18:42] tomtomblob, apt -s install libasound2:i386 [19:19] where can i get help with ubuntu install problems? [19:22] maybe here ? [19:24] installing 18.04LTS fails with a 'provided target dir /target was not empty' log message. [19:26] and you are installing it on a formated drive ? [19:27] it previously has FreeBSD installed. Wouldn't it wipe any previous OS before installing Linux? [19:29] it should, but a faulty sector/dirty disk could prevent write actions. [19:29] boot a live iso, and do a fsck [19:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting [19:35] Hello I somehow broke my emacs launcher button [19:36] how can I fix it? I can still launch emacs from alt+f2 typing `emacs' [19:36] where is this button? [19:37] zutat: left side bar [19:39] p0a: if the launcher in "applications" still works, just remove the button from the side bar and drag it there again [19:43] zutat: what launcher? [19:43] isn't _that_ the launcher? :S [19:48] how did you broke the emacs launcher? [19:49] aaah I remember. Nevermind. I actually modified the thing under applications/ to be emacsclient instead of emacs [19:49] because I'm using `browse' in a bash script [19:49] I'll make another launcher to launch `emacs'. Thank you all [19:54] zero'ing out the disk seemed to fix it. Evidently the installed was confused by yhr existing GPT label [19:54] thanks! [19:54] How do I add something to the launcher? [19:54] I created an emacs2.desktop under /usr/share/applications/ and now I'd like to add it to the dock thingie sidebar on the left === feannag is now known as falavic [20:04] bro, what is this "snap" thing? is it going to replace apt? === falavic is now known as feannag [20:06] What do you call the top bar on Ubuntu Unity desktop? [20:07] Goop: the menu bar? or status bar? [20:08] My earlier problem of gid= being ignored for mount -t vfat, that seems to have been a problem of the 4.4.0-176-lowlatency kernel indeed. with 4.15.0-91-lowlatency it works as expected. [20:08] the bar that gives you options. For example, in Firefox, you have "file", "edit", and "view" on the top bar. [20:08] You also have the time displayed. [20:10] Goop: Not sure if it has an official title, but I've called that the menu bar. Sometimes, it's hidden in Firefox and you have to go into the Options to view it [20:11] I don't like how Gnome eats away more computer screen space with their double menu bar. Is there any tweaks or alternative desktop environments? I need to get around to upgrading my distribution from Ubuntu 16.04. [20:12] I am still running stock Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity on my laptop so not familiar with your specific issue but there are plenty of desktop environments to choose from [20:12] hi, how do I upgrade from 18.04.4 to 18.04.5 or whaterver is the newest LTS [20:13] Goop: there are also the Unity Tweak Tool and Gnome Tweak Tools that can help customize your desktop if you don't want to choose a completely new desktop enviornment [20:16] imi, what release have you installed ? cat /var/log/installer/media-info [20:17] Need some help here, a Ubuntu server has a new cert for ssh [20:17] unexptected [20:17] ioria: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 (20180725) -- however lsb_release -a says it's Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS [20:17] The authenticity of host xxxx can't be established. [20:17] imi, uname -r [20:18] ioria: 4.15.0-88-generic [20:19] imi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [20:19] imi, basically sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 [20:19] ok, I'll check it, thanks [20:20] imi, btw, 18.04.5 will be released in August [20:21] great then it's going to be painless to upgrade this time maybe [20:21] has anybody managed an distribution upgrade (14->16 or 16-> 18) without formating their computer ? [20:22] do I need to do it in screen and/or in text terminal? [20:38] ioria: ok, this particular linux is installed inside virtualbox (under up-to-date ubuntu 19.10), apt-get autoremove removed virtualbox tools, and now when it starts the screen goes blank I need to un-fullscren it to make the X show up. is there a way to fix this? [20:39] reinstall virtualbox tools ? [20:41] pyusr: I think I did that. [20:41] 16 -> 18 [20:41] and did it work ? :) I never mange it to get to work [20:42] I can't really remember. Normally any big upgrade breaks a lot of stuff for me too. Sorry bad memory. [20:42] It's possible it was rather painless, or something went wrong and I fixed it. [20:42] Hmm, actually remember... [20:42] I ran out of harddisk space during the upgrade, that was painful; but I recovered from that. [20:43] So yeah, I think it was pretty painless (apart from having to recover from a half succeeded upgrade) [20:48] imi, i don't play much with virtualbox; try to install virtualbox-guest-dkms-hwe and/or virtualbox-guest-x11-hwe and virtualbox-guest-utils-hwe [20:49] ok I'll try. thank you [20:49] There are logs that show what was removed. [20:49] Hi. I have Night Light activated but when I log in, it briefly works but then the light gets back to normal. Then I have to disable Night Light and turn it on again. Has anyone experience this problem? Any advice to get this fixed? [21:14] $ sudo apt install winehq-staging winehq-staging : Depends: wine-staging (= 5.3~bionic) [21:14] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [21:17] wine ppa is not supported, join #winehq for that [21:17] k [21:18] oerheks, ubuntu has no builtin wine support? [21:19] sure, https://launchpad.net/wine , but not the -staging version [21:19] 'support' being people who can talk you through your issues with said software. [21:19] jups, except application help [21:22] oerheks, how can I install wine? [21:23] oerheks, this is official ubuntu help page. I tried it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine [21:24] sudo apt install wine # gives an error and 2 options [21:24] wine-stable or wine-development [21:24] oh, yes, you need i386. sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [21:25] wine is also on snapcraft.10 https://snapcraft.io/wine-platform-runtime [21:26] but i woul hold on apt. [21:27] oerheks, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TthbdRVrpv/ [21:28] after adding such i386, run a proper update? [21:28] sudo apt dist-upgrade preferrably [21:29] probably not required.. [21:29] oerheks, yes [21:30] oerheks, for dist. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [21:38] odd, here it works fine, i guess you just ran apt dist-upgrade, not apt update ( for new lists and calculation) [21:39] my new ubuntu studio came with Parole Media player preinstalled, which has 2 buglike strange behaviours: 1 there always is a colorful flickering bottom line on every video 2. only one instance can run? [21:40] how do i install ubuntu on machine with nvidia gtx 650, when i boot ubuntu 18.04.4 from usb my screen turn black with a few glitched pixels. how can i fix it [21:41] togo, there is a dedicated channel too, #ubuntustudio [21:41] oerheks, thanks! [21:41] Guest_4, nomodeset perhaps? [21:41] !nomodeset [21:41] Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [21:41] Guest_4, why run 18.xxx its 20? [21:42] 18.04 is LTS [21:42] 20.04 lts is not out yet [21:43] togo: That could be anything from screen tearing in the compositor to the video driver to many other things. Might not be a bug. Needs more troubleshooting. [21:43] Hi, can someone point me where to report bugs for FIrefox snap app? [21:43] i tried nomodeset but what can i do after that, bc when i restarted my computer it went black and to turn it up again i had to install linux again and run it with nomodeset [21:44] oerheks, I added $ sudo snap install wine-platform-runtime now what? [21:44] should i install some gpu drivers? [21:45] oerheks, going to restart [21:47] if so how do i do that? [21:49] oerheks, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PYmNj5gNhm/ [21:51] oerheks, there? [21:53] Can anyone tell how to install wine?, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PYmNj5gNhm/ [21:57] you have a mix of http and https, install apt-transport-https for that [21:57] !info apt-transport-https [21:57] apt-transport-https (source: apt): transitional package for https support. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.4 (eoan), package size 1 kB, installed size 153 kB [21:58] Intelo: sudo apt install wine64 [21:59] Intelo: or wine32 [21:59] i tried nomodeset but what can i do after that, bc when i restarted my computer it went black and to turn it up again i had to install linux again and run it with nomodeset, should i install some gpu drivers? if so how do i do that? [22:00] Intelo: also: sudo apt install -f [22:12] leftyfb, doing [22:13] what's the difference between virtualbox-guest-x11 and virtualbox-guest-x11-hwe? [22:14] which one do I need? [22:14] do I need the dkms as well? [22:15] do I need virtualbox-guest-utils? [22:15] how do I decide if I do? [22:16] yes [22:17] EriC^^: was that "yes" meant for me? which question(s) of mine were your intention to answer with that "yes"? [22:17] Maybe someone here can help me no local video files play and streaming sites such as youtube don't work ether [22:17] local video files stop at 0:00 I can scrub and see the frame but the video does not play youtube just acts like it's continuously loading [22:18] Ubuntu 18.04 [22:18] imi: hwe is the hardware enablement package, you only need it if you're running the hwe stack and kernel [22:18] !hwe | imi [22:18] imi: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [22:19] imi: guest utils would be useful, there's supposed to be a package or cd or something you can 'insert' from virtualbox, then run it on the guest [22:19] guest additions iso iirc [22:20] EriC^^: in this case the guest is an ubuntu as well [22:22] ok so my understanding is that it's safe and recommended to use the hwe packages if they are available [22:22] Maybe someone here can help me why would VLC play MP4 files on ubuntu but other apps just sit at 00:00 [22:23] Oops meant to send that is a different channel but the the question still stands [22:24] bray90820: have you tried mpv ? [22:25] Is that the one that comes with ubntu? [22:25] also, maybe the other players are unaware of a certain codec installed or a certain format [22:25] it can be installed [22:25] Sites like youtube don't work ether [22:27] Any ideas? [22:28] vlc has its own codec pack, install restricted-extras for multimedia and webplugins [22:29] oerheks: it's installed already [22:31] interesting, then that mp4 uses a non standard codec. [22:31] and firefox should play youtube fine [22:32] seems like linux-image-hwe-18.04 is incompatible with virtualbox-duest-dkms-hwe whichever I install removes the other one [22:33] Where are the dependencies defined for some package foo when one runs the following command "sudo apt build-dep foo"? [22:33] Youtube SHOULD play fine but it does not [22:33] oerheks: [22:33] Is that part of some database managed by apt or dpkg or something? [22:34] bray90820, so what is so special in your setup? [22:34] Nothing that I know is [22:36] bray90820: libdvd-pkg ? See: ' apt show libdvd-pkg ' . [22:37] it works in vlc, he claims [22:37] i agree that the dvd package is needed in vlc too, for dvd movies and such [22:38] oerheks: Odd then indeed :( [22:38] yes, something fishy [22:39] Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/raw/YrF3LgUn [22:40] bray90820: "show' was for your info - is it installed ? what returns ' dpkg -l libdvd-pkg ' ? [22:41] togo: very old but might give you some clues: https://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/06/try-fix-screen-flickering-video-playback-ubuntu/ [22:42] Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/raw/dDpBC2fD [22:43] bray90820: Well it it installed :D ,,, Then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg . [22:44] libdvd-pkg: guest package [libdvdcss2/1.4.2-1~local] is already installed. [22:45] Bashing-om: [22:46] bray90820: That result puzzles me - No idea :( [22:47] bray90820: Bashing-om video drivers/compositor issue I'd bet [22:47] I really don't wanna have to reinstall ubuntu [22:48] hello everyone [22:49] TJ-: I can accept - I can not test any theory I may have, as on this work station I have no high level video/sound. [22:49] clemons: dependencies are defined in the source package's debian/control file, which is contained in each binary package and its contents added to /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/available [22:50] Bashing-om: So are you out of ideas then? [22:50] bray90820: find out which compositor is in use - wayland or Xorg, and the video driver too. [22:57] How can I change win environment. It says minimum requirements for this app is windows 11. [22:57] leftyfb, ^ [22:58] sure there is a wine manual for that..wait, windows 11? [23:00] !wine | Intelo [23:00] Intelo: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [23:00] TJ-, that is quite different, on the Parole Play TJ-: Perfect, thanks for the info [23:02] togo: OK. As I said in -studio, it sounds like a compositor/driver issue with video overlays, which could be related to the age of the GPU and its available memory [23:03] oerheks, yes [23:07] I'm trying to install a bunch of dependencies. apt-get tells me "E: Unable to locate package", but it gives me no indication of which package is unlocatable. What flag do I need to pass to get more verbose output? [23:09] clemons: you could always check -> sudo apt-get check <- maybe [23:12] bprompt: Thanks for the suggestion. 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