[01:43] <zuvy> Will both Ubuntu Software and the Snap Store be installed as they are now, on the finished product?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:52] <evils> latest updates on ubuntu 20.04 broke the system...
[07:04] <evils> seems to be an instance of 1867431
[07:37] <evils> the bug tracker seems to say "fix commited" but i can't find a reference to such a commit on that page...
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> evils: bug #1867065
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> oh wait its bug #1867431 sorry
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !info libc6
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> evils: is the version you should have now ^
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> welcome SeeM2 
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> SeeM2: check the daily link for the current daily iso's
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> (in this topic)
[08:08] <ducasse> SCHAPiE👦🏼
[08:08] <ducasse> sorry
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:09] <ducasse> SeeM2: aiui the debian installer is still available, but 20.04 might be the last vesion with it
[08:09] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: weechat weirdness
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> i hear good things about weechat
[08:11] <SeeM2> ducasse: I usually install Ubuntu with / partition only and rsync that to preconfigured lvm volumes elswhere. the old Debian installer was great for that. 
[08:11] <SeeM2> *is
[08:11] <ducasse> you can use debbootstrap, though
[08:12] <SeeM2> That You, I'll check that.
[08:13] <SeeM2> I have a new keyboard and my fingers do not cooperate yet.
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> SeeM2: keep also in mind, the server installer is being revamped, worked on, so unexpected behaviour can still happen in this stage
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> test things on a safe box :p
[08:16] <SeeM2> I need installer only once. :) I'm working on ldap and, since it could take a couple months, 20.04 will be more than ready until production deploy.
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> for production you might wanna wait till 20.04.1 around august
[08:20] <SeeM2> I'm in no hurry and I rather would like a cuople more years of free updates that stability right now.
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cool
[11:26] <stoffie> Hello everyone! I have a fresh installation of ubuntu 20 on my laptop. I'm trying to install virtualbox but I'm having some troubles with dkms
[11:27] <stoffie> when I run `VBoxManage --version` I get this: http://sprunge.us/RqlyOr
[11:27] <stoffie> but of course the packages are installed
[11:32] <tomreyn> so linux-headers-generic is installed?
[11:33] <stoffie> already the newset version
[11:33] <tomreyn> systemctl status vboxdrv.service
[11:34] <stoffie> Unit vboxdrv.service could not be found.
[11:34] <tomreyn> are you using the virtualbox packages from ubuntu or upstream packages?
[11:35] <tomreyn> "6.1.4_Ubuntur136177" sounds like ubuntu's. 
[11:35] <stoffie> how do I check that? I Installed them via `sudo apt install virtualbox` etc..
[11:36] <tomreyn> apt policy virtualbox
[11:36] <tomreyn> if it points to ubuntu mirror servers, then you're using ubuntu's packages
[11:36] <tomreyn> if it points to virtualbox.org then you're using upstream packages.
[11:37] <stoffie> http://sprunge.us/U4UuI6
[11:37] <stoffie> thanks
[11:37] <stoffie> I guess I should istall the upstream packages then
[11:37] <tomreyn> i have no experience with ubuntu 20.04, yet, and haven't been using the virtualbox packages in ubuntu in a long time, so i can probably not help more.
[11:38] <tomreyn> i'm not saying that the upstream packages will be better, but they *can* be.
[11:38] <stoffie> Ok I'm giving em a try
[11:38] <tomreyn> actually there are no upstream packages for 20.04, yet
[11:40] <tomreyn> so better focus on identifying and solving the problem with the ubuntu provided packages.
[11:40] <tomreyn> search the     journalctl -b    output for virtualbox related error messages, fo example
[11:41] <tomreyn> but first of all, just reboot, and ensure secureboot is disabled (may be needed to load those kernel modules)
[11:42] <stoffie> I'm disabling secureboot
[11:43] <stoffie> brb
[11:45] <stoffie> Hello! I disabled secure boot and now it works
[11:45] <stoffie> good! Thanks!
[13:39] <BluesKaj> sudo authetication failure after that disastrous upgrade yesterday...any bug fixes avaiable?  altho I doubt I'll be able apply them if I'm locked out of sudo.
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: everything got duped to this one: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867431
[13:47] <RikMills> eve sabdfl got hit it seems!
[13:47] <RikMills> *even
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> thats the real mark right RikMills ?
[13:47] <RikMills> yep
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[13:54] <BluesKaj> so how can I upgrade the system with the bug fix if I'm locked out of sudo? ...seems like a vicious circle 
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: think i saw comments about chroot from a live
[13:55] <BluesKaj> and muon shows libcrypt1 is installed
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> my version is 1:4.4.10-10ubuntu4 now
[13:56] <BluesKaj> chroot has never worked for me ...I've followed many tuts and I aleays get an error
[13:57] <BluesKaj> lo yeah , same
[13:57] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje: ^
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah i never mess with it neither, i had to reinstall
[13:58] <BluesKaj> I don't feel like reinstalling again 
[13:58] <BluesKaj> this pisses me off ...how could they let this happen
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: think the fix is there once you sudo apt update, but without sudo..
[14:01] <BluesKaj> not yet
[14:01] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1866844/comments/12 is the workaround
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> good luck BluesKaj ^
[14:07] <BluesKaj> heh, how can I save changes  to /default/grub if I don't have permissions ? :-)
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: at boot grub i think BluesKaj 
[14:27] <BluesKaj> well, that workarounf failed
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> i cant drag/ move icons on the dock anymore, on a new daily ubuntu-desktop, anyone else tryed that?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> only right mouse/add to favorites
[16:35] <cowpig> Hello! I installed 20.04 on my new Dell Precision 7740, and have had some problems with my touchpad and also iwlwifi:
[16:36] <cowpig> ping 8.8.8.8 is giving me a bunch of errors, some duplicates, and 30% packet loss on an otherwise reliable network
[16:36] <cowpig> and the touchpad lags a lot when I drag my mouse
[16:37] <cowpig> dmesg for iwlwifi shows some errors, including "Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x0."
[16:37] <cowpig> with "Status: 0x00000040, count: 6" coming right after
[16:38] <cowpig> this is after installing the latest driver for my Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 160MHz card off Intel's website
[16:39] <oerheks> maybe the backports iwlwifi ppa is any good https://launchpad.net/~canonical-hwe-team/+archive/ubuntu/backport-iwlwifi
[16:40] <cowpig> ok trying that now
[16:41] <tomreyn> what prompted oyu to install a driver from intel.com? did the driver coming with ubuntu not work then?
[16:41] <cowpig> machine completely froze (I guess while I was typing things in here on my other laptop) so I have to hard-reboot first
[16:42] <cowpig> @tomreyn the driver looked the same as the one on intel's website but was a few kb different in size, so I figured it couldn't hurt
[16:42] <cowpig> I am just guessing, as I don't understand the network stack well enough to really debug this on my own
[16:43] <tomreyn> cowpig: so things worked fine before you installed th eone from intel.com?
[16:43] <cowpig> no, apologies: I was having the same problem
[16:43] <tomreyn> i see
[16:44] <tomreyn> this laptop is certified for 18.04 LTS with the oem kernel
[16:45] <tomreyn> where the oem kernel is most likely needed due to the 168c:003e "killer" wireless chipset
[16:45] <tomreyn> https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201904-27018
[16:46] <cowpig> hmm, strangely when I try to `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-hwe-team/backport-iwlwifi` I am getting an error that I could not get lock `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock`
[16:46] <oerheks> updates pending.. ?
[16:46] <cowpig> being used by `/usr/lib/packagekit/packagekitd`
[16:47] <cowpig> as in I installed updates before I last rebooted? If that is a possible cause it's probably it
[16:47] <tomreyn> update-manager is working in the background, looking for updates, and possibly installing them
[16:48] <tomreyn> backport-iwlwifi-dkms is in universe, no need for the ppa
[16:49] <cowpig> ok installing
[16:50] <cowpig> @tomreyn I don't have the `Qualcomm Atheros Killer N1525 Wireless-AC (168c:003e)` on my machine
[16:50] <cowpig> got the `Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 160MHz` instead
[16:51] <tomreyn> in case updates are being installe din the backgroun i'd try to just reboot once those upgrades are done (without backport-iwlwifi-dkms) first of all
[16:51] <cowpig> should I cancel the install
[16:51] <tomreyn> iwlwifi is indeed th eintel driver
[16:51] <cowpig> it's going at 12 kB/s because of the network problem
[16:51] <tomreyn> you should probably attach an ethernet wire and install any pending updates, then reboot
[16:52] <cowpig> ok brb
[16:58] <cowpig12> problem's still there
[16:58] <cowpig12> I'm on the machine w/the errors connected with ethernet so I can dump logs/outputs here if it helps
[17:06] <cowpig12> (I installed the backport package)
[17:07] <cowpig12> could this line be related?
[17:07] <cowpig12> `BIOS contains WGDS but no WRDS`
[21:36] <triplenull> Trying to determine if I should log a bug for this or not. Installing fish on 20.04 (x86_64 desktop) works, pulls down dependencies however it's missing some python libraries required for running fish_config. Not a big deal, worked around it by installing python3-pip