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 Hi
 Can I get Lubuntu help?
 I’m a newbie
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/0wmbZmi.jpg
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/2EQhXwn.jpg
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/7kylavO.jpg
 I’ve searched all over the Net for help but haven’t had much luck
 I’m a windows user and want to try and learn Linux
 @paddy7x [I’m a windows user and want to try and learn Linux], It seems that either the download was not successful or the recording failed, can you record it again and try?
 You have support Channel for this questions
 https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1ELAZuugqvFu0kbjjg
 Thanks
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 (Photo, 860x389) https://i.imgur.com/xDcjX4h.jpg In regards to lubuntu.net - Okay, so it's registered in Asia. Give me some time, I'm going to see what I can do to either have the site removed or at least get a warning on it. Their SSL certificate is technically invalid since they're operating under false pretenses.
 @TheLimeRunner [<reply to image>], Whatever you can do, you have the full support of the Lubuntu Council
 We've been trying for YEARS
 I'm going to try contacting their registrar and certificate authorities directly. It's a malicious site, period.
 Worse comes to worst I'll try and see how much they'd be willing to part with it for, and just buy the damn domain name.
 Thanks. If you end up buying it, if the price is reasonable, Lubuntu can reimburse you for it
 Good to know, thanks! I'll see what I can do. I find it odd that Canonical wasn't able to get it with all their mite.
 At least they do link to the official website for their downloads!
 @TheLimeRunner [Good to know, thanks! I'll see what I can do. I find it odd that Canonical wasn' …], Yeah, that was interesting to me too
 Nvm I figured out why it still exists, they own the copyright to "Lubuntu"
 Canonical does not.
 @TheLimeRunner [Nvm I figured out why it still exists, they own the copyright to "Lubuntu"], Wrong
 Canonical owns the copyright for the Lubuntu mark
 For the mark, but for the actual name too?
 That's a good question
 Canonical owns the Ubuntu name
 Yeah, but are they willing to shift their weight for it?
 I'm not sure
 The website itself is registered and hosted in Asia so it's not like a DMCA will actually do anything even if they did.
 Interesting little web this is.
[23:38] <wxl> @TheLimeRunner https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/get-detail?st13=EM500000017893362&lang=en
 Okay, so it's trademarked to Canonical which makes it an ICANN violation.
 Canonical needs to submit a DMCA copyright request to have it taken down and file a complaint with ICANN.
[23:41] <wxl> we've already asked all this and never heard much back from them. i don't know if anything actually occurred or not.
[23:41] <wxl> they did bother to get the trademark, though.
 OMG
 They copyrighted it without a TM?
 Registrar: NameCheap, Inc. … Registrar IANA ID: 1068 … Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com … Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
 Without a TM is is diecy because the EU copyright may not be recognized in whatever Asian country it's registered in. Still, since they DO own the copy right, they SHOULD be able to get it from the registrar if that registrar wants to maintain good standing with ICANN
 The TM doesn't matter as much since the product in question isn't being used for commercial gain.
 Since I am not a rep of Canonical, nor authorized to act on their behalf I can't do too much with the registrar. But I see no reason why Canonical would have an issue reporting the abuse of their copyright to them.
[23:46] <wxl> @tsimonq2: there you go. go bug legal.
 Oof the starting offer to submit for bidding on it is a minimum of $199. Why does everyone register their domains for so long? Register it for a year and live on the edge like the rest ofus.
 @tsimonq2 But for real but legal, Canonical has a legal copy right to the Lubuntu name. That's probably going to be the easiest way tbh. It doesn't expire for 2 years. I'll set it on my watch list to buy if it does become expired.
 The real question is though, why continue to pay for the domain and hosting to a project you're not actually associated with? Seems like a waste to me.
[23:50] <wxl> because the owner ie one of the original two co-founders
[23:50] <wxl> and it probably feels good to stroke his ego
 I'd stroke their ego but I lost my last set of tweezers 😂