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bongoCould anyone help, I can't get past partitions on install03:37
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> What exactly is going wrong? Error message? Freeze? Computer explodes?10:31
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> Any idea where would be  good place to look for software/library (I am looking for generator of matching speed/velocity/distance/acceleration graphs) and this is likely a poor place to do that.10:33
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Guest32419on my lubuntu 19.10 machine with disk encryption i have a error with the encrytpion. i can't found the solution on internet.10:53
lubot<Mateusz Konieczny> what error?10:59
guiverc2Guest32419, providing the error maybe helpful (pastebinit is not a single line), and I have no expertise with encryption, but I'd likely boot a 'live' system and `fsck`   (xfs_check which doesn't appear to be used for 19.10; it's the only thing I've used myself so I'd not take my advice as authorative)11:00
guiverc2@Meteusz Konieczny, sorry I don't know any helpful software/library for you11:01
lubotZensible was added by: Zensible11:29
lubot<Zensible> Hi all, just started to get to know lubuntu, what version do you recommend for daily use? 19.10 or 18.04.4? I see on the the webpage that 20.04 might be unstable so I won't bother with that one just yet.11:32
lubot<Zensible> ok I'm just going to go along with 19.10 since it is the newest stable one11:51
guiverc220.04 is still under development, thus changing.  It's not considered stable until release time (next month).   If you want to upgrade to 20.04, 19.10 is better as it supports it (both are LXQt). 18.04 uses older LXDE so will require re-install, but 18.04 supports x86 so is the only option if using 32bit. LXQt/19.10 is more modern...11:53
guiverc2@Zensible ^11:53
lubot<Zensible> thanks that answer made my choice easier.11:55
lubotpaddy7x was added by: paddy7x13:42
lubot<paddy7x> Hello13:43
lubot<Zensible> Another noob question I want to dual boot on a system that already has windows 10 installed. I put in a new ssd just for Lubuntu. Do I need a /boot/efi partition besides my / and /home partitions?14:04
diogenes_Zensible, i always make a separate /boot/efi for linux.14:06
lubot<Zensible> Ok thanks, I will do the same then.14:07
lubotTheLimeRunner was added by: TheLimeRunner15:55
lubot<paddy7x> I’m a complete noobie. I’ve only used Ubuntu once when a friend Installed it for me. This is my first time installing Lubuntu and its for my girlfriend so she can become familiar with the os. I’ve ran into problems trying to install it though.19:32
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ofY53P8.jpg19:32
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/RAwdaAe.jpg19:32
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/uLCXwH5.jpg19:32
lubot<paddy7x> Not sure why this keeps happening but os won’t install19:33
lubot<paddy7x> It’s frustrating like hell19:33
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wxlwhat makes you think the problem isn't actually faulty hardware? did you check the disk for defects at booting to eliminate the possibility that it's the installation media?19:34
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> what makes you think the problem isn't actually faulty hardware? did you c …], I have no idea. Like I said in a noob. How can I check for defects?19:35
wxlat the boot screen there's an option that says "check disk for defects." you arrow down to hit and hit enter.19:36
lubot<paddy7x> I feel embarrassed a bit. I wish I knew more19:36
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> at the boot screen there's an option that says "check disk for defects." y …], I’ll try that now19:36
lubot<paddy7x> The computer is already on19:36
wxlyou would need to boot again from the installation media19:38
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> you would need to boot again from the installation media], I just realized that.... restarting now bro 😉19:38
lubot<paddy7x> Ok it’s checking now19:41
lubot<paddy7x> Just waiting19:41
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/04W8k3Q.jpg19:42
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ACxSBLz.jpg19:42
wxlit was checking and then just went blank?19:42
lubot<paddy7x> Thanks I’m advance for the support19:42
lubot<paddy7x> You’re amazing19:42
wxloh nevermind19:42
wxlok don't need the play-by-play, just the results19:43
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/zZLlX6J.jpg19:43
lubot<paddy7x> 1 error found19:43
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> it was checking and then just went blank?], It appears to have just finished19:43
wxlok then you have a probelm19:43
wxlyou have one of two issues:19:44
wxl 1. you downloaded an iso with an error19:44
wxl 2. you copied a valid iso to the drive with an error19:44
lubot<paddy7x> Ok19:44
wxlif 1 is true, you need to redownload it until you get the right one19:44
wxlif 2 is true, you need to recopy it until you get it right19:44
lubot<paddy7x> So I’ll reformat the disk19:44
wxlso what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. please. it's probably windows ugh19:45
lubot<paddy7x> And download another copy?19:45
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> so what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. pleas …], Unfortunately19:45
wxlyou should, ideally, check which is your issue first, which means checking the iso19:45
wxlugh19:45
lubot<paddy7x> 😞19:45
wxlwhat windows?19:45
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> what windows?], 1019:45
wxlis it recently updated?19:46
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> is it recently updated?], Yes all up to date19:46
lubot<paddy7x> And that computer is modern compare to this one19:46
wxlok, i'd open up powershell19:46
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> ok, i'd open up powershell], I have no idea what that is19:47
wxloh boy19:47
wxlclick the windows icon, type in powershell, run that application19:47
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> oh boy], Told you I’m a newbie19:47
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> click the windows icon, type in powershell, run that application], Ok just a sec19:47
lubot<paddy7x> I mean I’m computer literate but not technical19:48
lubot<paddy7x> Done19:48
wxli assume you downloaded the iso to the default location in your Downloads folder?19:49
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> i assume you downloaded the iso to the default location in your Downloads …], Correct19:49
lubot<paddy7x> I did just that19:49
wxlok can you tell me the filename?19:49
lubot<paddy7x> Ok one sec19:49
lubot<paddy7x> Lubuntu-18.04-alternate-i386.iso19:51
wxli assume that's a lowercase l19:52
lubot<paddy7x> Yes all lowercase19:52
lubot<paddy7x> Sorry19:52
lubot<paddy7x> It is lowercase19:52
wxli'm surprised at the screenshots you provided if you're using the alternate iso but ok19:53
lubot<and_cappuccio> @wxl [<wxl> so what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. pleas …], I heard that with wsl2 things are gonna change in windows19:53
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> i'm surprised at the screenshots you provided if you're using the alternat …], Yes I did because there was mention of something19:53
wxlok well type this into powershell:19:54
lubot<paddy7x> Damn this windows machine is slow for a modern computer19:54
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> ok well type this into powershell:], Ok tell me please19:54
wxlGet-FileHash .\Downloads\lubuntu-18.04-alternate-i386.iso19:54
lubot<paddy7x> Ok19:54
wxlthe "hash" value should be 76d3de15324e6e0a33ccec38f6fcf4e9117198f6068a15695289d6a83cae0b8a19:54
wxlalthough windows will give you uppercase letters19:55
lubot<paddy7x> Typing it now19:56
lubot<paddy7x> Yeap The Microsoft computer has crash19:57
lubot<paddy7x> Waiting to reboot19:58
lubot<paddy7x> 🤦‍♂️19:58
Guest40467fun19:58
lubot<paddy7x> We can try on my girlfriend other computer19:58
lubot<paddy7x> It’s a Mac19:58
wxlbut you don't have the iso downloaded there19:59
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> but you don't have the iso downloaded there], No but it will take like 2 minutes19:59
lubot<paddy7x> Anyway waiting for computer to come on.....19:59
lubot<paddy7x> I wish I was better at this20:00
lubot<paddy7x> I need to learn this stuff20:00
wxlincidentially there's documentation about all this, but............20:00
Guest40467But if he only redownload iso and write it again. It's don't help?20:00
wxlif they redownload the iso we can check whether or not it's valid and keep redownloading until it is correct (or just use bit torrent)20:01
wxlonce we have the right iso, we can copy it over and keep checking it and copying it until it's right20:01
Guest40467I'm download via torrent. It's work good for me20:01
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/G45ztn7.jpg20:01
wxlif you do that, it automatically error checks20:02
lubot<paddy7x> Going for the 32 bit20:02
wxlby the way you're on the wrong website paddy20:02
wxllubuntu.net is not a valid lubuntu website20:02
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> by the way you're on the wrong website paddy], 🤦‍♂️20:02
lubot<paddy7x> Just kill me already20:02
wxli would urge you to complain to them for masquerading as the official lubuntu website when they are not20:02
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> i would urge you to complain to them for masquerading as the official lubu …], I’ll do that for sure20:02
Guest40467lubuntu.me you should use20:02
wxlcould you mouse over the link and copy and paste the value?20:02
lubot<paddy7x> I feel even dumber now20:02
wxlit's not your fault, it's theirs20:03
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> could you mouse over the link and copy and paste the value?], Sure20:03
Guest40467they don't delete old website20:03
wxlif they were nice, they'd just redirect to our website20:04
wxlit confuses users20:04
wxlit also has misleading information in it20:04
wxlmost often in the form of being out of date20:05
lubot<and_cappuccio> Lol I downloaded mine from lubuntu.net too20:05
wxllike here it says to download 19.0420:05
wxl19.04 is not supported20:05
wxland it says there are 32 bit and alternate-only versions for 19.0420:05
wxlthere are not and never were20:05
lubot<paddy7x> Blue screen of death again.... on the windows computer20:05
wxlit's really, really problematic20:05
lubot<paddy7x> Don’t know what’s wrong with this computer20:05
wxlthe lubuntu team has tried to contact them to no avail. so, please, as users, tell them how this has personally affected you.20:05
Guest40467blue screen? But why?20:06
wxlcuz its windows?20:06
Guest40467May be20:06
lubot<paddy7x> @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> blue screen? But why?], Don’t know... the same problem happened 2 days ago20:06
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> cuz its windows?], Could be20:06
lubot<paddy7x> It’s why I’m trying to switch over to Linux20:06
lubot<paddy7x> But it’s a learning curve 🤦🏻‍♂️20:07
wxl@paddy7x do you know what model of computer you're trying to install this on? the more detailed of an answer you can give me, the better20:07
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> @paddy7x do you know what model of computer you're trying to install this …], Yes I have the details20:07
lubot<paddy7x> One sec20:07
lubot<paddy7x> I attempted to download mint the first time but it was heavy for this computer so I had to do Lubuntu20:08
lubot<paddy7x> I took this screen shot before installing Lubuntu20:08
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/BXRE4Np.jpg20:08
wxloh look at you using inxi and everything20:08
wxlgood job20:08
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> good job], Thanks 😊20:09
Guest40467May be 18.04 but from lubuntu.me20:10
Guest40467you should install20:10
wxlouch20:10
wxlthat's a 32-bit only computer20:10
wxlthat's not going to last very long20:10
Guest4046718.04 don't support 32-bit?20:11
wxl18.04 is the only option for 32-bit support20:11
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> that's not going to last very long], Really?20:11
wxlbut it lasts (from lubuntu) only until 202120:11
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ymvk8FZ.jpg20:11
wxlyou'll be able to upgrade it and everything until 202320:12
wxlafter that, you'll have to move on to something else20:12
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> 18.04 is the only option for 32-bit support], You are right my brother20:12
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> you'll be able to upgrade it and everything until 2023], Three years is enough time20:12
lubot<paddy7x> I’m downloading the 32 bit20:12
lubot<paddy7x> For desktop or alternate?20:12
Guest40467And you have time to learn Linux20:13
lubot<paddy7x> @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> And you have time to learn Linux], Exactly20:13
wxllooks like you only have 1gb of memory20:13
wxlyou should do alternate20:13
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> you should do alternate], Ok doing it now20:13
wxlyou should also start learning about debian. it's the upstream source of ubuntu. it's not as easy to use, but it will most likely support 32-bit for a long, long time.20:13
wxlalmost everything in ubuntu works the same as it does in debian. almost.20:14
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> you should also start learning about debian. it's the upstream source of u …], Just a quick question in your estimation how long will it take me to become literate in Dublin?20:14
wxldebian is a little less user friendly and is behind, software version wise, relative to ubuntu, but it's stable20:14
wxlwell i mean i guess, i don't know. if you have nothing to try it on, quite a while! XD20:15
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> well i mean i guess, i don't know. if you have nothing to try it on, quite …], 😳20:15
wxlif those other two computers you have are powerful enough to run a virtual machine, you could practice with debian with that20:15
wxlvirtualbox is a great example of a free virtualization product20:16
wxl(that's available on windows, mac, and linux)20:16
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> if those other two computers you have are powerful enough to run a virtual …], Yes I had a software that did virtual machine. Called parallel20:16
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> virtualbox is a great example of a free virtualization product], Yes20:16
lubot<paddy7x> Great idea20:16
Guest40467Is lubuntu always have so long installing on USB?20:17
lubot<paddy7x> @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> Is lubuntu always have so long installing on USB?], Yes it took a while on the other computer.20:17
lubot<paddy7x> I’m trying on the Mac20:17
wxlGuest40467: it takes as long as it takes. the length of time depends on the speed of the USB bus, the length of the ISO file, and likely the overall resources of the machine20:18
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> Guest40467: it takes as long as it takes. the length of time depends on th …], It’s a very old computer20:18
Guest40467Ok, thanks20:18
wxlalso most utilities that do the copying do some sort of error checking, which is additional overhead that again is going to be dependent on hardware and the length of the file20:19
lubot<paddy7x> 2 hours download time. That will take forever20:20
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/B7Xvfm0.jpg20:20
lubot<paddy7x> Just have to wait20:20
wxlor try the torrent option20:20
wxlor just get the windows machine working :)20:20
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> or try the torrent option], I’ll try that20:20
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> or just get the windows machine working :)], Also try that20:21
Guest40467What is your internet conection speed?20:21
wxltorrent should automatically error check so you don't have to do the hashing20:21
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> torrent should automatically error check so you don't have to do the hashi …], I’ll do that instead20:23
lubot<paddy7x> Doing the torrent20:23
lubot<paddy7x> For the 18.04 correct?20:23
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 960x1280) https://i.imgur.com/CJaI7eR.jpg20:24
Guest40467Alternate 18.04 32-bit20:27
lubot<paddy7x> Looking at the torrent now20:27
Guest40467You start download?20:28
lubot<paddy7x> @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> You start download?], Yeap20:28
lubot<paddy7x> Hope it takes less time20:28
Guest40467Ok, then you write image and install. All should be good20:30
lubot<paddy7x> @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> Ok, then you write image and install. All should be good], I’ll keep you updated bro20:31
lubot<paddy7x> Thanks again20:31
lubot<paddy7x> Wish I could buy you lunch20:31
lubot<paddy7x> 😉20:31
wxlyou're more than welcome to donate to lubuntu20:32
wxlhttps://lubuntu.me/donate/20:32
lubot<paddy7x> @wxl [<wxl> you're more than welcome to donate to lubuntu], Def will do that20:32
Guest40467I'll change username on "Thefariol"20:32
wxlthx :)20:32
wxlGuest40467: /nick20:32
Guest40467wxl, you work in lubuntu team?20:33
wxlyep20:33
Guest40467I'm now from installation media20:33
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ThefariolGood Night All20:34
wxlbai20:34
lubot<and_cappuccio> @paddy7x [<reply to image>], Old Memories.. 56k modem are You?21:40
lubot<TheLimeRunner> @and_cappuccio [Old Memories.. 56k modem are You?], Looks about my speeds. I'm guessing either terrible wifi or ADSL.22:01
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lubot<paddy7x> I was here earlier23:14
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/zMnehL2.jpg23:14
lubot<paddy7x> I’m at the stage now and I don’t wanna screw up. Can someone please guide me?23:14
lubot<TheLimeRunner> That error message is telling me you're trying to edit partitions on the incorrect device.23:15
lubot<paddy7x> Ok23:15
lubot<TheLimeRunner> If you're installing from a USB flash drive, dev/sdb1 is the actually installer.23:15
lubot<paddy7x> I’ll go back23:15
lubot<TheLimeRunner> If you go back you should see a list of all devices, can you send me that screen?23:15
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/touRdA3.jpg23:16
lubot<TheLimeRunner> go to the option for detect discs and send me a pic of the screen23:16
lubot<paddy7x> You mean “detect virtual driver disks from hardware manufacturer”?23:17
lubot<paddy7x> Never mind I see it23:17
lubot<paddy7x> Same message23:18
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/sh4RGdS.jpg23:18
lubot<paddy7x> Yes I’m installing from usb23:18
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Ah okay, hit continue.23:18
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Now it should list the drives.23:18
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/fCYZkdd.jpg23:18
lubot<TheLimeRunner> I thought you were a little further ahead in the process.23:18
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [I thought you were a little further ahead in the process.], So did I 🤣23:19
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Are you planning on ONLY running lubuntu on the machine or do you need to leave room for another OS? IE windows, etc?23:19
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [Are you planning on ONLY running lubuntu on the machine or do you need to leave …], Only Lubuntu23:19
lubot<paddy7x> Nothing else23:19
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Choose the first option for guided partitioning23:19
lubot<paddy7x> All things Microsoft are being deleted23:19
lubot<paddy7x> I’m tired of Microsoft23:19
lubot<TheLimeRunner> then select option for use entire disk. It'll set up the ext4 root partition and the swap for you.23:19
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [Choose the first option for guided partitioning], Ok23:19
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [then select option for use entire disk. It'll set up the ext4 root partition and …], Excellent23:20
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Then you should be good to go from there. That's the hardest part IMHO.23:20
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [Then you should be good to go from there. That's the hardest part IMHO.], Thanks brother23:20
lubot<TheLimeRunner> No problem! Always happy to help! Especially new people getting into the world of Linux! It's a lot of fun! I still use Windows as my primary OS, but I've also been running Linux for over a decade so if I can help I will.23:21
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [No problem! Always happy to help! Especially new people getting into the world o …], I hope to do the same for someone else like you did for me23:22
lubot<TheLimeRunner> If you can get me the model number of your machine I'll take a look at it's hardware config and see if there is anything special you'll need to do.23:22
lubot<paddy7x> (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/TpAVoKa.jpg23:23
lubot<paddy7x> All the info is here23:23
lubot<paddy7x> Before I tried to install mint23:23
lubot<paddy7x> But it was to have23:23
lubot<paddy7x> Heavy23:23
lubot<TheLimeRunner> I see intel graphics, chipset and wifi so you should be good out of the box!23:23
lubot<paddy7x> So I am trying Lubuntu23:23
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [I see intel graphics, chipset and wifi so you should be good out of the box!], Thanks23:23
lubot<TheLimeRunner> If I remember correctly the T2050 is a lower speced Core 2 Model.23:24
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Under the branding "Centrino"23:24
lubot<TheLimeRunner> It should play nicely with LXQT23:24
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [Under the branding "Centrino"], I think it is23:24
lubot<paddy7x> It’s the duos23:24
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Ah, it's pre-core 2. No wonder you had some issues with Mint. Should be good for Lubuntu. That machine is 32bit only though, so once the 18.04LTS it out of support you'll need to find an alternative distro that still supplies 32bit images.23:26
lubot<paddy7x> @TheLimeRunner [Ah, it's pre-core 2. No wonder you had some issues with Mint. Should be good for …], Yes that’s true23:26
lubot<paddy7x> I believe I have 3 years of support23:27
lubot<TheLimeRunner> Yeah you're good till 2023.23:31
lubot<TheLimeRunner> @paddy7x How's the install coming?23:51

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