[03:37] <bongo> Could anyone help, I can't get past partitions on install
[10:53] <Guest32419> on my lubuntu 19.10 machine with disk encryption i have a error with the encrytpion. i can't found the solution on internet.
[11:00] <guiverc2> Guest32419, providing the error maybe helpful (pastebinit is not a single line), and I have no expertise with encryption, but I'd likely boot a 'live' system and `fsck`   (xfs_check which doesn't appear to be used for 19.10; it's the only thing I've used myself so I'd not take my advice as authorative)
[11:01] <guiverc2> @Meteusz Konieczny, sorry I don't know any helpful software/library for you
 Hi all, just started to get to know lubuntu, what version do you recommend for daily use? 19.10 or 18.04.4? I see on the the webpage that 20.04 might be unstable so I won't bother with that one just yet.
 ok I'm just going to go along with 19.10 since it is the newest stable one
[11:53] <guiverc2> 20.04 is still under development, thus changing.  It's not considered stable until release time (next month).   If you want to upgrade to 20.04, 19.10 is better as it supports it (both are LXQt). 18.04 uses older LXDE so will require re-install, but 18.04 supports x86 so is the only option if using 32bit. LXQt/19.10 is more modern...
[11:53] <guiverc2> @Zensible ^
 thanks that answer made my choice easier.
 Hello
 Another noob question I want to dual boot on a system that already has windows 10 installed. I put in a new ssd just for Lubuntu. Do I need a /boot/efi partition besides my / and /home partitions?
[14:06] <diogenes_> Zensible, i always make a separate /boot/efi for linux.
 Ok thanks, I will do the same then.
 I’m a complete noobie. I’ve only used Ubuntu once when a friend Installed it for me. This is my first time installing Lubuntu and its for my girlfriend so she can become familiar with the os. I’ve ran into problems trying to install it though.
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ofY53P8.jpg
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/RAwdaAe.jpg
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/uLCXwH5.jpg
 Not sure why this keeps happening but os won’t install
 It’s frustrating like hell
[19:34] <wxl> what makes you think the problem isn't actually faulty hardware? did you check the disk for defects at booting to eliminate the possibility that it's the installation media?
 @wxl [<wxl> what makes you think the problem isn't actually faulty hardware? did you c …], I have no idea. Like I said in a noob. How can I check for defects?
[19:36] <wxl> at the boot screen there's an option that says "check disk for defects." you arrow down to hit and hit enter.
 I feel embarrassed a bit. I wish I knew more
 @wxl [<wxl> at the boot screen there's an option that says "check disk for defects." y …], I’ll try that now
 The computer is already on
[19:38] <wxl> you would need to boot again from the installation media
 @wxl [<wxl> you would need to boot again from the installation media], I just realized that.... restarting now bro 😉
 Ok it’s checking now
 Just waiting
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/04W8k3Q.jpg
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ACxSBLz.jpg
[19:42] <wxl> it was checking and then just went blank?
 Thanks I’m advance for the support
 You’re amazing
[19:42] <wxl> oh nevermind
[19:43] <wxl> ok don't need the play-by-play, just the results
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/zZLlX6J.jpg
 1 error found
 @wxl [<wxl> it was checking and then just went blank?], It appears to have just finished
[19:43] <wxl> ok then you have a probelm
[19:44] <wxl> you have one of two issues:
[19:44] <wxl>  1. you downloaded an iso with an error
[19:44] <wxl>  2. you copied a valid iso to the drive with an error
 Ok
[19:44] <wxl> if 1 is true, you need to redownload it until you get the right one
[19:44] <wxl> if 2 is true, you need to recopy it until you get it right
 So I’ll reformat the disk
[19:45] <wxl> so what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. please. it's probably windows ugh
 And download another copy?
 @wxl [<wxl> so what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. pleas …], Unfortunately
[19:45] <wxl> you should, ideally, check which is your issue first, which means checking the iso
[19:45] <wxl> ugh
 😞
[19:45] <wxl> what windows?
 @wxl [<wxl> what windows?], 10
[19:46] <wxl> is it recently updated?
 @wxl [<wxl> is it recently updated?], Yes all up to date
 And that computer is modern compare to this one
[19:46] <wxl> ok, i'd open up powershell
 @wxl [<wxl> ok, i'd open up powershell], I have no idea what that is
[19:47] <wxl> oh boy
[19:47] <wxl> click the windows icon, type in powershell, run that application
 @wxl [<wxl> oh boy], Told you I’m a newbie
 @wxl [<wxl> click the windows icon, type in powershell, run that application], Ok just a sec
 I mean I’m computer literate but not technical
 Done
[19:49] <wxl> i assume you downloaded the iso to the default location in your Downloads folder?
 @wxl [<wxl> i assume you downloaded the iso to the default location in your Downloads …], Correct
 I did just that
[19:49] <wxl> ok can you tell me the filename?
 Ok one sec
 Lubuntu-18.04-alternate-i386.iso
[19:52] <wxl> i assume that's a lowercase l
 Yes all lowercase
 Sorry
 It is lowercase
[19:53] <wxl> i'm surprised at the screenshots you provided if you're using the alternate iso but ok
 @wxl [<wxl> so what other computer do you have? please tell me it's not windows. pleas …], I heard that with wsl2 things are gonna change in windows
 @wxl [<wxl> i'm surprised at the screenshots you provided if you're using the alternat …], Yes I did because there was mention of something
[19:54] <wxl> ok well type this into powershell:
 Damn this windows machine is slow for a modern computer
 @wxl [<wxl> ok well type this into powershell:], Ok tell me please
[19:54] <wxl> Get-FileHash .\Downloads\lubuntu-18.04-alternate-i386.iso
 Ok
[19:54] <wxl> the "hash" value should be 76d3de15324e6e0a33ccec38f6fcf4e9117198f6068a15695289d6a83cae0b8a
[19:55] <wxl> although windows will give you uppercase letters
 Typing it now
 Yeap The Microsoft computer has crash
 Waiting to reboot
 🤦‍♂️
[19:58] <Guest40467> fun
 We can try on my girlfriend other computer
 It’s a Mac
[19:59] <wxl> but you don't have the iso downloaded there
 @wxl [<wxl> but you don't have the iso downloaded there], No but it will take like 2 minutes
 Anyway waiting for computer to come on.....
 I wish I was better at this
 I need to learn this stuff
[20:00] <wxl> incidentially there's documentation about all this, but............
[20:00] <Guest40467> But if he only redownload iso and write it again. It's don't help?
[20:01] <wxl> if they redownload the iso we can check whether or not it's valid and keep redownloading until it is correct (or just use bit torrent)
[20:01] <wxl> once we have the right iso, we can copy it over and keep checking it and copying it until it's right
[20:01] <Guest40467> I'm download via torrent. It's work good for me
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/G45ztn7.jpg
[20:02] <wxl> if you do that, it automatically error checks
 Going for the 32 bit
[20:02] <wxl> by the way you're on the wrong website paddy
[20:02] <wxl> lubuntu.net is not a valid lubuntu website
 @wxl [<wxl> by the way you're on the wrong website paddy], 🤦‍♂️
 Just kill me already
[20:02] <wxl> i would urge you to complain to them for masquerading as the official lubuntu website when they are not
 @wxl [<wxl> i would urge you to complain to them for masquerading as the official lubu …], I’ll do that for sure
[20:02] <Guest40467> lubuntu.me you should use
[20:02] <wxl> could you mouse over the link and copy and paste the value?
 I feel even dumber now
[20:03] <wxl> it's not your fault, it's theirs
 @wxl [<wxl> could you mouse over the link and copy and paste the value?], Sure
[20:03] <Guest40467> they don't delete old website
[20:04] <wxl> if they were nice, they'd just redirect to our website
[20:04] <wxl> it confuses users
[20:04] <wxl> it also has misleading information in it
[20:05] <wxl> most often in the form of being out of date
 Lol I downloaded mine from lubuntu.net too
[20:05] <wxl> like here it says to download 19.04
[20:05] <wxl> 19.04 is not supported
[20:05] <wxl> and it says there are 32 bit and alternate-only versions for 19.04
[20:05] <wxl> there are not and never were
 Blue screen of death again.... on the windows computer
[20:05] <wxl> it's really, really problematic
 Don’t know what’s wrong with this computer
[20:05] <wxl> the lubuntu team has tried to contact them to no avail. so, please, as users, tell them how this has personally affected you.
[20:06] <Guest40467> blue screen? But why?
[20:06] <wxl> cuz its windows?
[20:06] <Guest40467> May be
 @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> blue screen? But why?], Don’t know... the same problem happened 2 days ago
 @wxl [<wxl> cuz its windows?], Could be
 It’s why I’m trying to switch over to Linux
 But it’s a learning curve 🤦🏻‍♂️
[20:07] <wxl> @paddy7x do you know what model of computer you're trying to install this on? the more detailed of an answer you can give me, the better
 @wxl [<wxl> @paddy7x do you know what model of computer you're trying to install this …], Yes I have the details
 One sec
 I attempted to download mint the first time but it was heavy for this computer so I had to do Lubuntu
 I took this screen shot before installing Lubuntu
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/BXRE4Np.jpg
[20:08] <wxl> oh look at you using inxi and everything
[20:08] <wxl> good job
 @wxl [<wxl> good job], Thanks 😊
[20:10] <Guest40467> May be 18.04 but from lubuntu.me
[20:10] <Guest40467> you should install
[20:10] <wxl> ouch
[20:10] <wxl> that's a 32-bit only computer
[20:10] <wxl> that's not going to last very long
[20:11] <Guest40467> 18.04 don't support 32-bit?
[20:11] <wxl> 18.04 is the only option for 32-bit support
 @wxl [<wxl> that's not going to last very long], Really?
[20:11] <wxl> but it lasts (from lubuntu) only until 2021
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/ymvk8FZ.jpg
[20:12] <wxl> you'll be able to upgrade it and everything until 2023
[20:12] <wxl> after that, you'll have to move on to something else
 @wxl [<wxl> 18.04 is the only option for 32-bit support], You are right my brother
 @wxl [<wxl> you'll be able to upgrade it and everything until 2023], Three years is enough time
 I’m downloading the 32 bit
 For desktop or alternate?
[20:13] <Guest40467> And you have time to learn Linux
 @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> And you have time to learn Linux], Exactly
[20:13] <wxl> looks like you only have 1gb of memory
[20:13] <wxl> you should do alternate
 @wxl [<wxl> you should do alternate], Ok doing it now
[20:13] <wxl> you should also start learning about debian. it's the upstream source of ubuntu. it's not as easy to use, but it will most likely support 32-bit for a long, long time.
[20:14] <wxl> almost everything in ubuntu works the same as it does in debian. almost.
 @wxl [<wxl> you should also start learning about debian. it's the upstream source of u …], Just a quick question in your estimation how long will it take me to become literate in Dublin?
[20:14] <wxl> debian is a little less user friendly and is behind, software version wise, relative to ubuntu, but it's stable
[20:15] <wxl> well i mean i guess, i don't know. if you have nothing to try it on, quite a while! XD
 @wxl [<wxl> well i mean i guess, i don't know. if you have nothing to try it on, quite …], 😳
[20:15] <wxl> if those other two computers you have are powerful enough to run a virtual machine, you could practice with debian with that
[20:16] <wxl> virtualbox is a great example of a free virtualization product
[20:16] <wxl> (that's available on windows, mac, and linux)
 @wxl [<wxl> if those other two computers you have are powerful enough to run a virtual …], Yes I had a software that did virtual machine. Called parallel
 @wxl [<wxl> virtualbox is a great example of a free virtualization product], Yes
 Great idea
[20:17] <Guest40467> Is lubuntu always have so long installing on USB?
 @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> Is lubuntu always have so long installing on USB?], Yes it took a while on the other computer.
 I’m trying on the Mac
[20:18] <wxl> Guest40467: it takes as long as it takes. the length of time depends on the speed of the USB bus, the length of the ISO file, and likely the overall resources of the machine
 @wxl [<wxl> Guest40467: it takes as long as it takes. the length of time depends on th …], It’s a very old computer
[20:18] <Guest40467> Ok, thanks
[20:19] <wxl> also most utilities that do the copying do some sort of error checking, which is additional overhead that again is going to be dependent on hardware and the length of the file
 2 hours download time. That will take forever
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/B7Xvfm0.jpg
 Just have to wait
[20:20] <wxl> or try the torrent option
[20:20] <wxl> or just get the windows machine working :)
 @wxl [<wxl> or try the torrent option], I’ll try that
 @wxl [<wxl> or just get the windows machine working :)], Also try that
[20:21] <Guest40467> What is your internet conection speed?
[20:21] <wxl> torrent should automatically error check so you don't have to do the hashing
 @wxl [<wxl> torrent should automatically error check so you don't have to do the hashi …], I’ll do that instead
 Doing the torrent
 For the 18.04 correct?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://i.imgur.com/CJaI7eR.jpg
[20:27] <Guest40467> Alternate 18.04 32-bit
 Looking at the torrent now
[20:28] <Guest40467> You start download?
 @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> You start download?], Yeap
 Hope it takes less time
[20:30] <Guest40467> Ok, then you write image and install. All should be good
 @Guest40467 [<Guest40467> Ok, then you write image and install. All should be good], I’ll keep you updated bro
 Thanks again
 Wish I could buy you lunch
 😉
[20:32] <wxl> you're more than welcome to donate to lubuntu
[20:32] <wxl> https://lubuntu.me/donate/
 @wxl [<wxl> you're more than welcome to donate to lubuntu], Def will do that
[20:32] <Guest40467> I'll change username on "Thefariol"
[20:32] <wxl> thx :)
[20:32] <wxl> Guest40467: /nick
[20:33] <Guest40467> wxl, you work in lubuntu team?
[20:33] <wxl> yep
[20:33] <Guest40467> I'm now from installation media
[20:34] <Thefariol> Good Night All
[20:34] <wxl> bai
 @paddy7x [<reply to image>], Old Memories.. 56k modem are You?
 @and_cappuccio [Old Memories.. 56k modem are You?], Looks about my speeds. I'm guessing either terrible wifi or ADSL.
 I was here earlier
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/zMnehL2.jpg
 I’m at the stage now and I don’t wanna screw up. Can someone please guide me?
 That error message is telling me you're trying to edit partitions on the incorrect device.
 Ok
 If you're installing from a USB flash drive, dev/sdb1 is the actually installer.
 I’ll go back
 If you go back you should see a list of all devices, can you send me that screen?
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/touRdA3.jpg
 go to the option for detect discs and send me a pic of the screen
 You mean “detect virtual driver disks from hardware manufacturer”?
 Never mind I see it
 Same message
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/sh4RGdS.jpg
 Yes I’m installing from usb
 Ah okay, hit continue.
 Now it should list the drives.
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/fCYZkdd.jpg
 I thought you were a little further ahead in the process.
 @TheLimeRunner [I thought you were a little further ahead in the process.], So did I 🤣
 Are you planning on ONLY running lubuntu on the machine or do you need to leave room for another OS? IE windows, etc?
 @TheLimeRunner [Are you planning on ONLY running lubuntu on the machine or do you need to leave …], Only Lubuntu
 Nothing else
 Choose the first option for guided partitioning
 All things Microsoft are being deleted
 I’m tired of Microsoft
 then select option for use entire disk. It'll set up the ext4 root partition and the swap for you.
 @TheLimeRunner [Choose the first option for guided partitioning], Ok
 @TheLimeRunner [then select option for use entire disk. It'll set up the ext4 root partition and …], Excellent
 Then you should be good to go from there. That's the hardest part IMHO.
 @TheLimeRunner [Then you should be good to go from there. That's the hardest part IMHO.], Thanks brother
 No problem! Always happy to help! Especially new people getting into the world of Linux! It's a lot of fun! I still use Windows as my primary OS, but I've also been running Linux for over a decade so if I can help I will.
 @TheLimeRunner [No problem! Always happy to help! Especially new people getting into the world o …], I hope to do the same for someone else like you did for me
 If you can get me the model number of your machine I'll take a look at it's hardware config and see if there is anything special you'll need to do.
 (Photo, 1276x956) https://i.imgur.com/TpAVoKa.jpg
 All the info is here
 Before I tried to install mint
 But it was to have
 Heavy
 I see intel graphics, chipset and wifi so you should be good out of the box!
 So I am trying Lubuntu
 @TheLimeRunner [I see intel graphics, chipset and wifi so you should be good out of the box!], Thanks
 If I remember correctly the T2050 is a lower speced Core 2 Model.
 Under the branding "Centrino"
 It should play nicely with LXQT
 @TheLimeRunner [Under the branding "Centrino"], I think it is
 It’s the duos
 Ah, it's pre-core 2. No wonder you had some issues with Mint. Should be good for Lubuntu. That machine is 32bit only though, so once the 18.04LTS it out of support you'll need to find an alternative distro that still supplies 32bit images.
 @TheLimeRunner [Ah, it's pre-core 2. No wonder you had some issues with Mint. Should be good for …], Yes that’s true
 I believe I have 3 years of support
 Yeah you're good till 2023.
 @paddy7x How's the install coming?