| duflu | robert_ancell_, is it true that plymouth ubuntu mods have no SCM? | 04:06 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Just tars | 04:06 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:50 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 06:54 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:54 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:23 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:26 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:27 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers! | 07:28 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:28 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 07:28 |
| duflu | seb128, better rested... How are you/ | 07:28 |
| duflu | ? | 07:28 |
| seb128 | duflu, I was looking at the backlog, indeed no Vcs for the plymouth Ubuntu package | 07:28 |
| duflu | Doesn't matter | 07:28 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:28 |
| seb128 | I'm better than yesterday, still a bit tired though | 07:29 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 07:29 |
| * didrocks joins the "kids at home" crew | 07:29 | |
| didrocks | ça va :) | 07:29 |
| seb128 | :-( | 07:29 |
| seb128 | good luck! | 07:29 |
| didrocks | well, Julie has been kicked out from work (this week was the last week anyway), so, the challenge will be to find activities | 07:30 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, didrocks | 07:30 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN ! | 07:30 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, teach your son programming in Go :) | 07:31 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? | 07:31 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, ça va bien, et toi? | 07:31 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: his birth annoucement card was already in Go :) | 07:31 |
| seb128 | ça va :) | 07:32 |
| seb128 | duflu, speaking of plymouth, upstream recently did https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/plymouth/plymouth/-/commit/50c619ed which I plan to land in focal since it cuts some second off botting | 08:36 |
| seb128 | duflu, Hans said he would welcome our feedback on the change | 08:37 |
| seb128 | duflu, you have good eyes for the impact of such changes so if you could test it and tell me if you believe it's a regression/change we should avoid that would be useful | 08:38 |
| duflu | seb128, I was wondering how that worked. You either have to predict the future or delay the boot process to complete the fade-out | 08:41 |
| duflu | seb128, I agree with the idea too. I'd already noticed the fade-out was taking a significant portion of the boot time on fast systems | 08:42 |
| seb128 | duflu, k, thanks for the input, I think I will include the commit in the next update | 08:43 |
| Laney | goooood morning | 09:02 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you today? | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey duflu seb128 | 09:06 |
| Laney | feeling like a strict mode snap | 09:06 |
| Laney | HAHAHAHHHHH | 09:07 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | living the futur! | 09:07 |
| Laney | (confined) | 09:07 |
| Laney | (in case that joke wasn't obvious) | 09:07 |
| Laney | (i thought it was funny anyway) | 09:07 |
| Laney | how are you? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | it made me smile at least :) | 09:08 |
| didrocks | roh | 09:08 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 09:08 |
| seb128 | good so far, a bit annoyed that spring finally showed up at the same time confinement started | 09:09 |
| seb128 | no tennis :( | 09:09 |
| seb128 | and having the kid around all day makes it challening to focus on work | 09:09 |
| RikMills | speaking of plymouth, a user on kubuntuforums is getting this https://i.imgur.com/WwBIbNA.png | 09:10 |
| RikMills | is that an issue known, or something likely specific to them | 09:10 |
| seb128 | rikMills; no known by me nor something that got recent reports, also not likely due to a recent change | 09:10 |
| RikMills | seb128: yeah, the tennis is :( and the F1 | 09:11 |
| RikMills | seb128: that is what I figured, but wanted to check. thanks :) | 09:11 |
| Laney | moin didrocks | 09:12 |
| Laney | ok seriously | 09:14 |
| Laney | what does update-manager do to defeat focus stealing prevention? | 09:14 |
| didrocks | update-notifier set a very old timestamp IIRC | 09:15 |
| didrocks | when launching update-manager | 09:15 |
| didrocks | (/!\ I looked at that many years ago, my memory can be blurry) | 09:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, jamesh, weekly summary reminder | 10:29 |
| Laney | oh yeah | 10:29 |
| jamesh | thanks for the reminder | 10:29 |
| seb128 | np! :-) | 10:30 |
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| Laney | Trevinho: hahah I love that now a gjs patch is required | 10:44 |
| Laney | classic Marco | 10:44 |
| Laney | "ok, first we need to switch to BSD ..." | 10:44 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ahahahah.... Well if you see the bug you understand why. I can't deference pinters in js :-( | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | pointers | 10:48 |
| Laney | /o\ | 10:55 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: sorry about this, but we just got https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librsvg/+bug/1867766 ... | 12:41 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1867766 in librsvg (Ubuntu) "Namespace prefix sodipodi on namedview is not defined" [Undecided,New] | 12:41 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, just finished a call, I'll have a quick lunch (not going far ;)) and I'll look at that | 12:50 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 13:16 |
| hellsworth | hey oSoMoN would you mind launching some tests for me? | 13:16 |
| hellsworth | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rrYhWqVvz9/ | 13:16 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth | 13:16 |
| hellsworth | hi didrocks ! | 13:16 |
| hellsworth | or kenvandine maybe you could launch the autopkgtests for me in the paste ^^ ? | 13:22 |
| hellsworth | pretty please | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: sure | 13:22 |
| hellsworth | thanks :) | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: done | 13:23 |
| hellsworth | much appreciated | 13:23 |
| oSoMoN | hey hellsworth, kenvandine | 13:23 |
| oSoMoN | Ken beat me to it, I was afk having lunch | 13:24 |
| hellsworth | hi oSoMoN ! | 13:24 |
| hellsworth | oh no worries :) | 13:24 |
| hellsworth | hope it was tasty | 13:24 |
| oSoMoN | very tasty indeed, thanks :) | 13:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, oSoMoN, I was just poking at that before lunch, it made ubiquity autopkgtest fail (shame that librsvg wasn't in the rdepends list though) | 13:33 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I will let you debug if you don't mind, but let me know if you need help | 13:34 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, ack | 13:35 |
| Laney | seb128: probably because it's via an indirect dep through gtk I guess | 13:36 |
| Laney | annoying | 13:36 |
| seb128 | right | 13:36 |
| GunnarHj | Good afternoon Laney! | 13:37 |
| GunnarHj | glib2.0 and eoan? (bug #1844853) I have verified bionic and xenial; awaiting your decision/action as regards the failing i386 test in eoan. | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1844853 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Eoan) "IBus no longer works in Qt applications after upgrade" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844853 | 13:37 |
| seb128 | oh, meeting time! | 14:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-17 | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Mar 17 14:31:08 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 14:31 |
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| didrocks | hey | 14:31 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 14:31 |
| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 14:31 |
| hellsworth | \o | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | hey ho | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I hope everyone is doing fine despite viruses, lockdowns, etc | 14:32 |
| seb128 | let's get started, IRC meetings are still a safe place :) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 14:32 |
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| hellsworth | lol yes they are | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:32 |
| seb128 | no desktop one | 14:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:33 |
| seb128 | bug #1855893 | 14:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893 | 14:33 |
| seb128 | where I got a reply from oem saying it's ok to drop the targetting | 14:34 |
| seb128 | doing that | 14:34 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 14:35 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:35 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 14:35 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:35 |
| seb128 | nothing interesting there | 14:35 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bugs | 14:36 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:36 |
| seb128 | bah, another 'interesting' round this week I guess | 14:37 |
| seb128 | bug #1862081 | 14:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1862081 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Gnome resizes framebuffer when playing fullscreen video over and over again (when using X11 fractional scaling)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862081 | 14:37 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, i've it in my list already | 14:37 |
| Trevinho | rls at this point | 14:37 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k, please take assignment then | 14:38 |
| seb128 | thanks :) | 14:38 |
| seb128 | bug #1867548 | 14:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1867548 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in Focal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867548 | 14:38 |
| seb128 | Gunnar tagged it | 14:39 |
| Laney | probably seems worthwhile | 14:39 |
| seb128 | yeah, I tend to agree on +1 | 14:39 |
| seb128 | k, let's accept it and move on | 14:40 |
| seb128 | bug #1865563 | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865563 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "password box not centered" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865563 | 14:40 |
| seb128 | that was fix commited but of course Daniel disagrees with that use of the status | 14:40 |
| Laney | 🙄 | 14:40 |
| seb128 | I say +1, doesn't matter much anyway since it's going to land when GNOME 3.36 lands and yaru is updated | 14:41 |
| didrocks | yeah, the general idea is "it's done" | 14:41 |
| didrocks | right | 14:41 |
| seb128 | bug #1865838 | 14:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838 | 14:41 |
| seb128 | so oem belives we should fix it and we like oem so I think we should accept it | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | of course we like oem :) | 14:42 |
| Trevinho | so, mine as well... | 14:42 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks! | 14:42 |
| seb128 | bug #1866044 | 14:42 |
| didrocks | +1 indeed | 14:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1866044 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with signal 5 in clutter_box_layout_allocate() when enable-animations=false" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866044 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | another one that is fix commited/waiting on 3.36 to land | 14:42 |
| didrocks | yep | 14:42 |
| seb128 | next one is assigned to Marco, just needs to target | 14:42 |
| seb128 | bug #1807276 | 14:43 |
| ubot5 | bug 1807276 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Cannot open Onscreen Keyboard in Xorg" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807276 | 14:43 |
| seb128 | the bug isnt new/recent | 14:43 |
| seb128 | would be nice to debug but at this point I don't think I would rls nominate | 14:44 |
| seb128 | other opinions? | 14:44 |
| Laney | agreed | 14:44 |
| didrocks | +1 | 14:44 |
| seb128 | thanks, let me -notfixing for now | 14:45 |
| seb128 | (time to enjoy my launchpad fix :p) | 14:45 |
| hellsworth | i agree not fixing | 14:45 |
| Laney | it would be good to fix osk / 2-in-1 bugs but that would have to be a specified project I think rather than rls bug fixing | 14:45 |
| seb128 | right | 14:46 |
| seb128 | bug #1867080 | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1867080 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[radeon] No mouse cursor drawn in Wayland session" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867080 | 14:46 |
| seb128 | it's fixed upstream | 14:47 |
| seb128 | so let's move on | 14:47 |
| Laney | fix the tags at least | 14:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, did that and added a comment | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | maybe we should have a tag for 2-in-1 bugs? | 14:48 |
| Laney | thx | 14:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I wouldn't be suprised if there is already one | 14:48 |
| seb128 | will look after the meeting | 14:48 |
| seb128 | bug #1866275 we +1ed and I failed to target it looks like | 14:49 |
| ubot5 | bug 1866275 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Password overlay dialogue breaks during screen lock while overlay present" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866275 | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | we might want to do an organized round of 2-in-1 work | 14:49 |
| seb128 | doing that now | 14:49 |
| seb128 | bug #1865865 is fix commited according to Trevinho's report | 14:49 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865865 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Icon spring animation starts/ends in the wrong location (near the top of the dock) " [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865865 | 14:49 |
| Laney | I've been noticing the accepted bugs not nominated, is that because you are batching it to do so later? | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: in new release yes | 14:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, seems like otherwise I fail to see timeout and such, trying new technique to just keep the action for end of meeting | 14:50 |
| seb128 | at least for nominations | 14:50 |
| Laney | ok | 14:50 |
| Laney | just wondering if that is why that ^ one came back | 14:50 |
| seb128 | I need to write a bot/tool to the actions :p | 14:51 |
| seb128 | anyway | 14:51 |
| seb128 | bug #1850960 | 14:51 |
| ubot5 | bug 1850960 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "Coming back from suspend, tabs and window are broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850960 | 14:51 |
| seb128 | it's on 19.10 and I didn't see that reported before | 14:52 |
| Laney | indeed | 14:53 |
| seb128 | not rls material imho, so voting -1 | 14:53 |
| seb128 | I will reply with some questions/details after the meeting | 14:53 |
| seb128 | and rls-not-fixing | 14:53 |
| seb128 | bug #1864127 I reassigned to snapd now, should have done that before | 14:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1864127 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "apparmor denies ~/snap/chromium/ writes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864127 | 14:54 |
| seb128 | bug #1866194 | 14:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "After connecting an external output device (USB audio interface, Bluetooth speaker...), it shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866194 | 14:54 |
| seb128 | we said we would revisit | 14:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks for commenting, I see you got a reply and it's not due to bluetooth | 14:55 |
| seb128 | but on devices connect/disconnect | 14:55 |
| seb128 | I think we should keep an eye on it but notfixing for now | 14:56 |
| seb128 | until/unless it's confirmed to be either frequent or a regression | 14:56 |
| seb128 | other opinions? | 14:56 |
| kenvandine | i've only seen it once | 14:56 |
| Laney | imho we should assign it to Robert (g-c-c) or Daniel (pulseaudio) for some further investigation, and they can Won't Fix the task if it is somehow hw specific | 14:57 |
| Laney | but I've certainly seen some flakiness there myself so I believe there is probably an actual issue | 14:57 |
| hellsworth | +1 on Laney's suggestion | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | i'd suspect pulseaudio | 14:58 |
| seb128 | k | 14:58 |
| seb128 | done | 14:59 |
| seb128 | bug #1866616 | 14:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1866616 in linux (Ubuntu) "[amdgpu] 2nd display stopped working" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866616 | 14:59 |
| seb128 | seems a pretty specific issue | 15:00 |
| seb128 | I would vote -1 for rls targetting | 15:00 |
| Laney | ok, but tjaalton ^- you might want to see it | 15:00 |
| tjaalton | adding a question.. | 15:02 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:02 |
| seb128 | bug #1866890 | 15:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1866890 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "audio card not detected after upgrade to 20.04 (Only Dummy Output appears)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866890 | 15:02 |
| seb128 | looks like a duplicate of bug #1860697 which is confirmed/owned by the oem team | 15:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1860697 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sound doesn't work on Lenovo X1 Carbon 7th with 20.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1860697 | 15:03 |
| seb128 | I'm going to mark it dup | 15:04 |
| seb128 | bug #1862028 | 15:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1862028 in ubuntukylin-meta (Ubuntu) "Focal uses the exfat fuse filesystem even though there is support in the kernel" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862028 | 15:04 |
| seb128 | there is an non answered question there | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | should that be "even though there is no support in the kernel"? | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | oh no | 15:05 |
| hellsworth | it just reads weird | 15:05 |
| seb128 | :) | 15:05 |
| Laney | it's on our list because of what | 15:05 |
| Laney | udisks2? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | k, so that previous bug, we never installed that package by default | 15:05 |
| seb128 | yeah, probably should be invalid there | 15:06 |
| Laney | indeed | 15:06 |
| seb128 | k, doing that and moving on | 15:06 |
| seb128 | one shell one assigned to Trevinho | 15:06 |
| seb128 | need targetting though | 15:06 |
| seb128 | bug #1864274 | 15:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1864274 in mesa (Ubuntu) "crunchy pixels" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864274 | 15:07 |
| hellsworth | there's a workaround | 15:07 |
| seb128 | ^ tjaalton should that be accepted for focal nomination? | 15:07 |
| seb128 | k, while he comes back to me on that, moving | 15:09 |
| Laney | I've got to move in a minute to be in the right place for a call | 15:09 |
| seb128 | bug #1865221 we discussed and I forgot to tag edit, doing now | 15:10 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865221 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Workspace switcher scaling up and down depending on the number of active workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865221 | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yes | 15:10 |
| seb128 | Laney, k, no problem | 15:10 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks | 15:10 |
| Laney | pretty sure we said last week we would notfix those three bugs | 15:10 |
| Laney | biab! | 15:10 |
| seb128 | yeah, I was going to say | 15:11 |
| seb128 | I probably failing to finish my queued task | 15:11 |
| seb128 | I need to better handle those meetings with a stack of action | 15:11 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:11 |
| seb128 | that should be for bugs then | 15:11 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 15:11 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 15:11 |
| seb128 | the world is blocked behind icu | 15:12 |
| hellsworth | thats the truth of it | 15:12 |
| seb128 | icu seems to get there, but still need at least webkit2gtk, php7.4 and ruby resolved | 15:13 |
| seb128 | webkit2gtk being ours | 15:13 |
| seb128 | I will poke at that today | 15:13 |
| seb128 | other things on proposed migration | 15:13 |
| seb128 | libnotify/0.7.9-1ubuntu1: i386 (log, history) | 15:13 |
| seb128 | that one needs to be investigated | 15:14 |
| seb128 | gcr fails to build due to a test failing (but works on Debian, unsure what the difference is) | 15:14 |
| seb128 | libgphoto2/2.5.24-1: i386 (log, history) | 15:15 |
| seb128 | the test does a build which fails since i386 went away, need to look at fixing cross building | 15:15 |
| seb128 | pygobject/ubiquity is the librsvg issue mentioned earlier and oSoMoN is looking at it | 15:15 |
| seb128 | I will card those on trello ^ | 15:15 |
| oSoMoN | and I have a fix in the works | 15:16 |
| seb128 | if anyone want to help please feel free to add yourself to a card | 15:16 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, great | 15:16 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 15:16 |
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| seb128 | ohter topics? | 15:16 |
| hellsworth | none from me | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | nope | 15:18 |
| seb128 | seems not | 15:18 |
| seb128 | sorry for the long meeting and thanks for sticking up and participating in the bugs review! | 15:19 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 15:19 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Mar 17 15:19:23 2020 UTC. | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-03-17-14.31.moin.txt | 15:19 |
| hellsworth | thanks seb128 ! | 15:19 |
| oSoMoN | thanks all | 15:19 |
| Laney | thanks! | 15:40 |
| Laney | turns out the call was just me and xnox in the end | 15:40 |
| Laney | but we had a great time | 15:40 |
| oSoMoN | core devs: I would welcome a review (and sponsorship) for https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-themes/scavenge-preserve-namespaces/+merge/380776 | 15:45 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, looking | 15:46 |
| oSoMoN | please note that lp:ubuntu-themes isn't up-to-date with the contents of the archive, it's missing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/451540523/ubuntu-themes_19.04-0ubuntu1_19.04-0ubuntu2.diff.gz, I've asked vorlon to fix this (on #ubuntu-devel) but he hasn't responded yet | 15:46 |
| seb128 | ack | 15:47 |
| Laney | I think he's off today | 15:47 |
| oSoMoN | so my MR will probably need to be trivially rebased on top of that | 15:47 |
| Laney | you might want to bzr import-dsc that | 15:48 |
| Laney | (or whatever it's called) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | patch -p1 < :p | 15:48 |
| Laney | /ban seb128 | 15:48 |
| oSoMoN | old school! | 15:48 |
| seb128 | 0_o | 15:48 |
| Laney | wasn't joking though, often Foundations people ignore any vcs that is set so he likely doesn't even have a commit to push | 15:50 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, likely | 15:50 |
| seb128 | there is a value still pinging them and asking them to merge their change | 15:52 |
| Laney | yes, that happened | 15:52 |
| Laney | (#ubuntu-devel) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | right | 15:52 |
| Laney | so... | 15:53 |
| seb128 | but then if we merge we end up cleaning behind them | 15:53 |
| seb128 | and things never change | 15:53 |
| seb128 | it's just frustrating | 15:53 |
| oSoMoN | right, but if he's off today we don't want to block on him, do we? | 15:53 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I start by rebasing/uploading the fix | 15:53 |
| oSoMoN | cheers | 15:54 |
| seb128 | well, the Vcs is already outdated | 15:54 |
| seb128 | so it can be outdated by another revision | 15:54 |
| seb128 | if he hasn't replied/done it tomorrow I will end up sorting it out myself | 15:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software is that really the right place? most recent commit is a year old it says | 16:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, or is the branch to use 'snap-store'? would be nice to maybe change the default or refer to this one (I came from the launchpad project) | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | branch is snap-store | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | good idea, i'll change the default | 16:14 |
| seb128 | thx | 16:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128: done | 16:18 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | seb128: but... it was ubuntu-master which was rebased 3 weeks ago | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | but... the history looks funky | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | you know why :) | 16:18 |
| seb128 | shrug :) | 16:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/15 | 16:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, if that helps to get those translations merged? ;) | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | that would help :) | 16:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well, it's there now, just click the pretty button :p | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128: my only concern is what does that do to our rebasing | 16:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you mean? | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | conflicts merging from upstream | 16:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do you have a better solution? | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | no :) | 16:49 |
| seb128 | we will need to resolve conflicts | 16:49 |
| seb128 | the other option is to not translate any of our downstream strings | 16:49 |
| seb128 | that isn't great to say the least | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | that's not an option | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | i wonder if i can do some magic in the snap build | 16:49 |
| seb128 | I don't really see how | 16:51 |
| seb128 | the translations export from launchpad takes a while | 16:52 |
| seb128 | it's not a download, it emails you an url when the export is ready | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | maybe we add that download as a blob in snap/local/ and extract that | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | so then updating that blob is a manual step | 16:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, wfm if that's what you prefer ... | 16:58 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I can email you a launchpad tarball if you want, but you can also get the files from my git branch | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | let me chat with robert | 17:00 |
| seb128 | k | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | email me the tarball | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | good test case | 17:00 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, do you know where I can find a drm-tip or 5.6-rc kernel ppa/deb for focal? | 17:30 |
| tjaalton | seb128: mainline ppa | 17:31 |
| tjaalton | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 17:31 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks | 17:31 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, I've a flicker on plymouth with my xps13 and according to plymouth's upstream it's an i915 problem, fastset/boot is failing | 17:37 |
| seb128 | still happening with rc5, I will report upstream | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | seb128: something like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yF8YmRQvfm/ | 17:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, looks fine to me yes | 17:42 |
| kenvandine | seems simple enough :) | 17:42 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ok | 17:44 |
| kenvandine | seb128: /root/parts/snap-store/src/po/fr.po exists | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... done. | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128: if i send you a locally built snap, can you test it ? | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/16 | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | I'd appreciate help testing gtk-common-themes from candidate | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | good morning robert_ancell_ | 20:12 |
| hellsworth | o/ robert_ancell ! | 20:13 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, hi | 20:13 |
| robert_ancell | I don't know why but if I don't restart IRC in the after a disconnect it wont let me talk... | 20:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yes, I can test a snap if you give me | 20:13 |
| robert_ancell | hellsworth, hello! | 20:13 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128: cool, i'll send it | 20:14 |
| robert_ancell | So every time someone pings me I inevitably have to restart... | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128: can i send via telegram? | 20:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, maybe your client fails to register again to nickserv avec disconnect? | 20:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sure | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1867153 | 20:14 |
| hellsworth | maybe your login to freenode is timing out | 20:14 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1867153 in snap-store "Snap does not appear in Ubuntu Software categories" [Undecided,New] | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | the theory is the sections API is only giving us 50 results | 20:14 |
| robert_ancell | I get a "you've been banned/quieted on this channel" error. Thanks IRC. | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | and the game in question is after 50 | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: wasn't there talk about pagination? | 20:15 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, for snaps? It was punted to phase 2 of the new API I think. | 20:15 |
| kenvandine | :( | 20:15 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, been asking for pagination for a long time :) | 20:16 |
| robert_ancell | hellsworth, yeah, I think it gets confused when I put my laptop to sleep and times out. | 20:16 |
| kenvandine | it's sad we still don't have it | 20:16 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: so i'm correct that it's snapd limiting the results? | 20:17 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I'll just confirm | 20:17 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, weird, the 'snap find' for the education category shows it, but the call to get that category from snapd doesn't. | 20:20 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, but in short, it's almost certainly not in the top N (50?) | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | i do get it the education category in snap-store | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: i found issues with categories in snap-store | 20:21 |
| kenvandine | that's my next topic :) | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | curl --unix-socket /run/snapd.socket http://localhost/v2/find?category=education doesn't show it for me | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | snapd is returning the top 100 in each category. | 20:22 |
| robert_ancell | 'snap find' shows the top 50 | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | snap-store is only showing 36 results in education | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | oh | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | no | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | it's 50 | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | exactly 50 | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | and selflessheroes is in that | 20:24 |
| robert_ancell | oh whoops. It's section=education, not category=education. It's showing there now. | 20:26 |
| robert_ancell | (in education, not games) | 20:26 |
| kenvandine | in snap-store games is showing a lot more than 100 | 20:26 |
| robert_ancell | And it's returning 50. | 20:27 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I guess it's also showing debs? | 20:27 |
| robert_ancell | Because snapd is only returning 50 results. | 20:27 |
| kenvandine | ah it is | 20:27 |
| kenvandine | so that was my next issue | 20:28 |
| kenvandine | snap-store is now duplicating categories | 20:28 |
| kenvandine | like we have "Education" and "Education and Science" | 20:28 |
| kenvandine | and we have two "Games" categories | 20:29 |
| kenvandine | i hacked desktop-categories to not populate to confirm | 20:29 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: should we do something to merge categories? | 20:32 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, the snap categories assume the XDG categories aren't there. | 20:35 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, so if we need both we need to add some merging. | 20:36 |
| robert_ancell | The old method merged the snap categories into XDG ones. So do we now want to do the reverse or go back to the old behaviour? | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | no | 20:37 |
| kenvandine | we should favor the ones from snapd | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | question is, how do we disable the XDG ones? | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | i added a return TRUE in desktop-categories to hack around it | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | seb128: snap sent | 20:38 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, we need to disable the desktop-categories plugin. | 20:40 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, That's a core plugin, so it's built by default. But you could drop the .so from the package, or makes the snap plugin replace it or patch it to disable itself. | 20:40 |
| kenvandine | i think appstream and snap plugins depend on it | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | right? | 20:41 |
| kenvandine | snap works without desktop-categories | 20:53 |
| kenvandine | but it doesn't show debs when you browse categories :/ | 20:53 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, the only rule in the code is gs_plugin_add_rule (plugin, GS_PLUGIN_RULE_RUN_AFTER, "desktop-categories") for the snap plugin | 20:54 |
| robert_ancell | So nothing else explicitly requires it | 20:54 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: what do you think about https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/16 | 21:00 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I was just looking at the LP MR :) | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | i figured this would be easier to maintain than merging them in git | 21:01 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, makes sense to me if we consider the LP ones to be better. | 21:02 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, we should make a plugin or something if we want to do that for a number of packages. | 21:02 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:02 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: to work around the duplicate categories issue, how does this look https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RpBM8t3JNj/ | 21:06 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, I would expect that to work. | 21:06 |
| kenvandine | it does :) | 21:06 |
| kenvandine | but feels hacky | 21:06 |
| robert_ancell | It is! | 21:06 |
| robert_ancell | Just don't ship the .so if that's the intention. | 21:07 |
| kenvandine | dropping the .so is worse | 21:07 |
| robert_ancell | We might risk future breakage as it's not considered an optional plugin. | 21:07 |
| kenvandine | then we don't get any debs when browsing categories | 21:07 |
| kenvandine | i don't know why though | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | dropping the .so i get exactly 50 results in Games | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, oh, that's done in gs_plugin_add_category_apps | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | Yeah, so you need half of the plugin... | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | ah | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | that's why :) | 21:08 |
| robert_ancell | And gs_plugin_add_category_apps should probably be modified to map XDG categories to snap ones. | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: can you do that? | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, *sigh* :) | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | much easier for you :) | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | Easy for you to say :P | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | indeed :) | 21:09 |
| robert_ancell | File a bug and assign it to me. | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | will do | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | i'd think that mapping is going to be fragile | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | as we don't have a stable list of categories | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | it is... but might not be | 21:10 |
| robert_ancell | Yeah, it will need to be modified if the snap categories change. | 21:11 |
| kenvandine | i thought there was code for that before | 21:11 |
| kenvandine | but i guess that was the other way around | 21:11 |
| kenvandine | i'm going to push my hack with a comment for now | 21:11 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, hang on | 21:12 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, modifying plugins/core/gs-desktop-common.c:gs_desktop_get_data (void) is probably a better hack. | 21:12 |
| robert_ancell | i.e. to return an empty array. | 21:13 |
| robert_ancell | Because other code does access that list. | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: bug 1867833 | 21:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1867833 in snap-store "Map XDG categories to snap categories" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867833 | 21:21 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, do you want to target that to focal? | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | ideally | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | but actually, i'm more eager to getting the snap-store-3-36 branch to stop crashing :) | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | i haven't had a chance to debug that | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | maybe you can look into that? | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | last i tried it, in frankfurt, that was crashing from a local build. Not just when run as a snap | 21:23 |
| kenvandine | so i'm guessing something was missed in the rebase? | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, what's the current crash? I thought we'd resolved or those? | 21:23 |
| kenvandine | it crashes when opening the installed tab pretty reliably | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | I'll have a look. | 21:24 |
| kenvandine | and it also crashed for me just searching | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | I think I wasn't getting the issue in Frankfurt. | 21:24 |
| kenvandine | it seems random | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | ugh. | 21:24 |
| kenvandine | you might have to use it for a few minutes | 21:24 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell: the empty array idea doesn't work | 21:32 |
| kenvandine | i only get snap results | 21:32 |
| robert_ancell | oh well, back to the hack :/ | 21:32 |
| kenvandine | yup ;) | 21:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the snap you sent me is correctly translated, thanks! | 21:47 |
| kenvandine | seb128: woot | 21:50 |
| * kenvandine merges | 21:50 | |
| seb128 | :-) | 21:51 |
| popey | robert_ancell dunno if you saw, i filed a bug as requested https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1867598 | 22:37 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1867598 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Inconsistency in naming of "Permissions & Access"" [Low,Triaged] | 22:37 |
| robert_ancell | popey, yep, will look into that. | 22:37 |
| popey | ta | 22:37 |
| robert_ancell | popey, were there any in particular or just "all the things" | 22:38 |
| popey | eh? | 22:38 |
| popey | well, i only looked at a couple of snaps | 22:38 |
| robert_ancell | popey, I mean were there particular (common) interfaces that needed good descriptions or you just noticed there's lots that don't have them now. | 22:39 |
| popey | the latter | 22:41 |
| popey | i dont know when the last time it was looked at | 22:42 |
| popey | and i know the security team have added more since then | 22:42 |
| robert_ancell | It's been a while :) | 22:42 |
| popey | so some kind of diff somewhere but dunno where | 22:42 |
| robert_ancell | I was asking in case we need to prioritize which ones need text, but I think I'll just tackle this as a "fix them all equally" | 22:43 |
| robert_ancell | I think this is a case to re-raise that snapd needs to provide better text. | 22:44 |
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