| viktar | TJ- thanks, i only let it scan because i don't know what i'm looking for in the datalog just yet | 00:12 |
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| abdulhakeem | So I created a torrent with Transmission, but how do I actually seed it? When I go to my web client, it doesn't show the torrent there? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo | 00:44 |
| abdulhakeem | if I do the next section "Add Torrent", is that going to attempt to download the torrent or seed it? | 00:45 |
| rodrigoty23 | Bashing-om, bash are you familiar with netbeans? | 00:49 |
| Bashing-om | rodrigoty23: Nope :D Never seen it . | 00:50 |
| rodrigoty23 | does anybody here get netbeans open twice on clicking on the apache netbeans icon? | 00:51 |
| sarnold | abdulhakeem: heh, this is eleven years old now.. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105199 " I put all in the same folder and moved my default destiantionfolder to the right place, then everything workes smooothly =) " | 00:51 |
| rodrigoty23 | is this a netbeans but or is ubuntu at fault? | 00:52 |
| rodrigoty23 | problem* | 00:52 |
| foo | I transferred 902GB files via rsync -azv between one network mount to another. Is there any way to "verify" the transfer completed? I've ran rsync a few times and it looks like it's not transfering any more files... wondering if there's any final "check" I can do. It's also very likely rsync is bullet proof and it shouldn't matter - thanks | 00:54 |
| abdulhakeem | goddamnit I wish people would write documentation that's easy to understand | 00:55 |
| sarnold | foo: something like this may do the trick: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sha256sum -- then take that output and run sha256sum -c on it on the other side, and see that the results match up | 00:56 |
| foo | sarnold: thanks, I see that spitting out a sha256sum during the search - will it error out if there's a mismatch? This is 902GB. :) | 00:59 |
| sarnold | foo: oh my :) | 00:59 |
| skookum1 | foo: what about simply checking that rsync completed without errors `echo $?` after running rsync | 01:00 |
| sarnold | foo: then you'll probably want the --quiet flag too, because there'll be a few thousand $foo: OK lines otherwise :) | 01:00 |
| foo | skookum1: echo $? returns 23 | 01:05 |
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| skookum | foo: Exit code 23 = "Partial transfer due to error" | 01:07 |
| foo | skookum: there was 1 permission error, I wonder if that's what it was | 01:07 |
| skookum | foo: you might also want to look into the "--checksum" option for rsync instead of trying to verify after-the-fact | 01:08 |
| foo | skookum: someone else shared this - rsync -Pahn --checksum /Volumes/Dir1/ /Volumes/Dir2/| sed '/\/$/d' | tee migration.txt - it's awesome. it shows differences between two dirs | 01:08 |
| foo | skookum: I did a small test, doing a larger test now | 01:09 |
| clarkk | I have a Dell Precision 7510 Laptop running 18.04. It has been working well for 2 years, but in the last week the keyboard number keypad has stopped working (although it seems to work on the login screen). Does anyone have any ideas where I can start to sort it out. I haven't made any configuration changes, but I have kept up to date with updates | 02:24 |
| sarnold | clarkk: are there any messages in dmesg? or /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? that look related to keyboard issues? | 02:26 |
| sarnold | clarkk: does it seem to work as expected when you use the xev application? | 02:27 |
| clarkk | I seem to remember that there was some sort of bios update from one of the official ubuntu apps (not a Dell app), although I can't remember which. Maybe it's a red herring, but just want to mention it | 02:31 |
| clarkk | sarnold, thanks for responding. The xev seems to receive the mouse input but not the keyboard | 02:31 |
| clarkk | I tell a lie. One moment... | 02:33 |
| sarnold | clarkk: firmware updates are probably fwupdmgr or a gui frontend to it | 02:34 |
| clarkk | sarnold, when I run xev, and click a button on the keypad, it doesn't report the keycode | 02:35 |
| sarnold | clarkk: ugh. that sounds unpromising. is there an Fn lock or Numpad lock button or something similar that you may have hit by accident? | 02:36 |
| sarnold | clarkk: are there options in the UEFI setup for turning that on and off? | 02:36 |
| clarkk | I have numlock enabled. Using gnome-firmware, I recognise an update that I installed a week or so ago | 02:40 |
| clarkk | one moment. I'll reboot and reset the bios | 02:40 |
| sarnold | time for me to bail | 02:48 |
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| horseface | hey guys would ubuntu touch work on my moto x4 even if it isn't listed on the devices section on the website? | 03:40 |
| horseface | or does it strictly only work with the devices listed? | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | horseface: ubuntu touch is depraced, its ubports now | 03:40 |
| horseface | there are not many supported devices in that case and i've never heard of any of them. | 03:40 |
| horseface | i see. | 03:40 |
| horseface | i will have a look | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | horseface: join #ubports to join the community | 03:40 |
| horseface | cool, thanks. | 03:40 |
| kinghat | i just did a boot repair and it says to make my BIOS boot on sdb1/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi | 03:49 |
| kinghat | how do you do that | 03:49 |
| kinghat | pretty sure im not running secure boot anyways | 03:52 |
| ravlyx | Hello Ubuntu Com.! Anyone up for my late night? Can anyone help me with my Latenight no Audio struggle? | 03:53 |
| max12345 | hey all, my laptop locks my screen after in activity and I don't want that. screensaver is off and power manager is set to do nothing when plugged in, yet it still happens. What can I do? | 04:16 |
| Aleric | I bought a RTX 2080, but now I have a boot problem: it has three Display Ports and a HDMI port. I have all four connected. It now boots on one of the DP ports, but that is my VR headset and that doesn't even show the grub menu or anything (not with USB still down). | 04:21 |
| Aleric | I tried using that DP port for one of my DP monitors, but then - despite that it gets a signal the screen remains black :/ | 04:21 |
| Aleric | I don't think it is possible to someone tell the video card to use the HDMI port as boot monitor? Then why does it not work when I try to boot from a monitor with DP? | 04:22 |
| Peppi | hello | 05:21 |
| Peppi | tried this before but lost the instructions. What package do I need to install to check out the SMART setting on a hard drive? | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: disk tools in ubuntu can perform a smart test on your HD | 05:32 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, how do I install that? sudo apt-get xxx? | 05:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: its installed by default | 05:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: its the icon with a harddisk | 05:35 |
| Peppi | I'm not using a GUI | 05:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info smartmontools | Peppi | 05:38 |
| ubottu | Peppi: smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 525 kB, installed size 2030 kB | 05:38 |
| Peppi | ok | 05:39 |
| Peppi | I found some logs ) | 05:39 |
| Peppi | :) | 05:39 |
| Peppi | just have to wait for the update then I can get working :) | 05:42 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, if I sent the chan the log of the scan can you tell if the hard drive failed? | 05:43 |
| zap0 | when linux boots there is a lot of text "started blah blah" . is there a log of that somewhere? | 05:49 |
| JimBuntu | zap0: syslog or dmesg are a good start | 05:57 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, sudo apt install smartmontools | 06:09 |
| Peppi | just installing that :) | 06:09 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/to25 | 06:16 |
| Peppi | oops | 06:16 |
| Peppi | needed -a | 06:16 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/59eg7 | 06:17 |
| Peppi | can anyone tell if that log has errors? | 06:17 |
| askmish | Hi, I'm trying to automate ubuntu 18.04 desktop os installation using preseed. Anyone have a working preseed file template for ubuntu 18.04 desktop using ubiquity? I've so far been able to skip screens upto "Installation options". | 06:18 |
| askmish | I've tried all the official ubuntu and debian wikis, but information is not available for ubuntu desktop preseeeding | 06:19 |
| JimBuntu | Looks like "Completed without error" to me Peppi . Possibly all the help I can be. | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: looks like a passed test to me, why did you suspect HD issues exactly? | 06:22 |
| Peppi | sorry guys that was the wrong hdd. I've put the right one in now. Give me a few minutes | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: are you gonna plug it over sata? | 06:23 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, I'm using an ordoid hc2 running ubuntu 18. So to answer your question yes over sata... though apparently there is a usb bridge in there somewhere. | 06:24 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, not sure if that answers your question | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: over usb bridge, the smart test wont go | 06:24 |
| Peppi | https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=31104&p=224660&hilit=smart#p224660 | 06:25 |
| Peppi | wait | 06:25 |
| Peppi | https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=31213 | 06:25 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, so... it will work right? | 06:26 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/d9o1 | 06:27 |
| Peppi | that's the "problem" hard drive | 06:27 |
| Peppi | does that look ok? I can't tell | 06:28 |
| Peppi | Completed: read failure... doesn't look good | 06:30 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: wich brand is that, how old is the HD and does it make lots of noise? | 06:31 |
| Peppi | Model Family: Western Digital Red | 06:31 |
| Peppi | 10 May 2016 | 06:32 |
| Peppi | sounds normal to me | 06:32 |
| lotuspsychje | thats not old at all for a WD red | 06:32 |
| Peppi | did you see the link I posted? | 06:33 |
| Peppi | would a format help? | 06:33 |
| Peppi | the data is "backed up" | 06:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: format and do a smartmontools 'long' test on it | 06:34 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: sudo smartctl -t <short|long|conveyance|select> -C /dev/sdX for example | 06:35 |
| Peppi | sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda -d sat is the command I'm using now | 06:35 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: yeah thats a regular test | 06:36 |
| Peppi | so sudo smartctl -t long -C /dev/sda -d sat is what I should do? | 06:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: not sure -d sat is needed in this case | 06:37 |
| Peppi | yes it's needed | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | oh kk, try then | 06:37 |
| Peppi | becasue of usb bridge | 06:37 |
| lotuspsychje | right | 06:37 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/kyfq | 06:38 |
| Peppi | A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options. | 06:39 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, what us the -C? | 06:42 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, I wonder if this means anything: https://www.smartmontools.org/ticket/303 | 06:45 |
| tripelb | I want to choose a de. there is one that sort of isnt a gui but uses lots of windows. what is that caller please? general term and name of de? thanks | 06:46 |
| Peppi | or uhmm that was 6 years ago | 06:46 |
| lotuspsychje | !flavours | tripelb | 06:46 |
| ubottu | tripelb: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 06:46 |
| tripelb | I dont know the name of it so that isnt going to help a lot. | 06:47 |
| matsaman | tripelb: sounds like you're describing a "window manager", which is frequently contrasted to a full-blown desktop environment | 06:47 |
| matsaman | tripelb: a "tiling window manager" is a particular trendy type these days | 06:47 |
| tripelb | it isn not any of those. | 06:48 |
| matsaman | I think Lubuntu uses LXDE which uses openbox (window manager) historically | 06:48 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: -C, --captive | 06:48 |
| tripelb | yes that is the kind. NOPE not Lubuntu. I know that. The LUG advised against that years ago. Now they are all on school break. | 06:48 |
| matsaman | tiling is the kind? | 06:48 |
| tripelb | I can look it up now. thanks. | 06:48 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, yes but why captive mode? | 06:49 |
| matsaman | wmii is a good starter, awesome, dwm, ion (largely defunct?) | 06:49 |
| matsaman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X | 06:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Peppi: makes the test faster when the HD isnt doing something | 06:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !desktop | tripelb | 06:50 |
| ubottu | tripelb: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors | 06:50 |
| tripelb | lotuspsychje, I know that. I am getting Regolith. Above I said that now I know it is called "tiling" I can look it up myself | 06:51 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: so not ontopic for this channel.. | 06:52 |
| tripelb | thanks matsaman. I googled it and fount tis one. but... I will look at your link. | 06:52 |
| Peppi | lotuspsychje, well it fails with that error :/ | 06:55 |
| tripelb | Ah yes, I3 is the one I had heard about | 06:57 |
| tripelb | lotuspsychje, what isnt ontopic? | 06:57 |
| tripelb | Regolith IS Ubuntu | 06:57 |
| tripelb | like mate IS ubuntu | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: its a derivative, and not supported here | 06:59 |
| tripelb | you really seem to want to make it difficult for "people" not sysops people. Tell me is there a supported tiling window manager? | 07:00 |
| tripelb | lotuspsychje, ^^^ | 07:00 |
| tripelb | This channel is the reason I CAN use Ubuntu | 07:00 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: we have several channels where you can talk about all sorts, but here in #ubuntu we need to follow the guidelines and support ubuntu issues | 07:01 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss for package reccomends | 07:01 |
| tripelb | repeat, is there a tiling manager that IS ubuntu so I can use it and ask in the channel | 07:01 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: software reccomends does not fall under support questions, use another channel for that please | 07:02 |
| tripelb | I am not trying to fight you. I have been using ubuntu since 6.04 which "just worked". But then with 12 things didnt just work any more... etc. My 18.04 for instance kept saying it had problems. as did 1604... | 07:03 |
| tripelb | I didnt ask you to recommend one I just asked if there is one. | 07:03 |
| tripelb | If I asked which de had an application tree you could tell me... or someone else could. | 07:03 |
| tripelb | Let me just go away today and come back when the people I have seen here before are herel Thank you for all the work that you do here. I do appreciate this channel and the time and energy of those who help others. | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | tripelb: as ubuntu long time member, maybe you could search from your terminal...apt-cache search tiling ? | 07:05 |
| tripelb | ok. I didnt know that. thanks. | 07:05 |
| tripelb | tiling window manager results were: tritium and i3-wm | 07:09 |
| ramsub07 | Hello. I've images in a directory as 1.jpg 2.jpg.. etc. I'd like to convert this to 000001.jpg, 000002.jpg, etc.. How do I go about? | 07:47 |
| geirha | assuming bash, first enable extglob with ''shopt -s extglob'', then: for file in +([0-9]).jpg; do printf -v newname %06d.jpg "$(( 10#${file%.jpg} ))"; echo mv "$file" "$newname"; done | 07:51 |
| geirha | the echo in there is for dryrun. Remove it to have it actually rename | 07:51 |
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| z4kst4r | Hi guys, I wanted to check about configuring LDAP for SSH access. Is 'ipa-client-install' the tool used to configure LDAP for SSH access? | 08:06 |
| ducasse | z4kst4r: you better ask in #ubuntu-server | 08:07 |
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| luna | Watching the last thing from WSLConf from last week now | 08:57 |
| ducasse | there's no need to spam that in all the ubuntu channels, please | 08:58 |
| AlexAnarcho | Hey guys, I have a problem with the suspend mode of my laptop. Namely, once I enter the suspend mode either trough lid close or the 'systemctl suspend' command, my screen does not turn on again. it remains black. keyboard does not seem to work either - i cannot turn the backlight on or off. | 09:09 |
| AlexAnarcho | i have tried multiple things including switching to lightdm and such. | 09:10 |
| AlexAnarcho | now it gets really weird: EVEN IF i boot from a live stick, the same issue happens. seems to me it is a bios problem. | 09:10 |
| AlexAnarcho | anybody here familiar with the issue and have a possible fix? | 09:10 |
| feannag | given following permissions, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C35fzV6Wq8/, how can i execute the times-up binary so that it cats flag.txt? | 09:12 |
| raddy | Hello | 09:21 |
| Aryan | hi | 09:41 |
| Aryan | How can i percieve the update-manager-core package is installed or not ? | 09:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Aryan: apt policy packagename | 09:42 |
| Aryan | lotuspsychje: | 09:45 |
| Aryan | lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/StSX2MfNSS/ | 09:45 |
| Aryan | it means that it's installed ? | 09:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Aryan: yes, if installed is not empty, you have it | 09:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Aryan: what are you trying to do? | 09:46 |
| Aryan | i wanted to know the update-manager-core is installed or not | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | allright | 09:47 |
| Aryan | for upgrading my 18.04 to 19.04 | 09:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Aryan: just keep in mind that makes you loose LTS support | 09:48 |
| jeremy31 | 19.04 is already EOL | 09:48 |
| lotuspsychje | Aryan: and this^ | 09:48 |
| Aryan | lotuspsychje: isn't 19.04 a LTS ? | 09:49 |
| lotuspsychje | no | 09:49 |
| jeremy31 | 20.04 will be next LTS | 09:49 |
| Aryan | ok, i didn't upgrade it, i just `apt update && apt dist-upgrade` it | 09:50 |
| Aryan | still is 18.04 , right ? | 09:50 |
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| Aryan | i don't make it 19.04 then | 09:52 |
| ducasse | should be, verify with 'lsb_release -r' | 09:52 |
| jeremy31 | Aryan: The 19.04 repos should have been shut down | 09:52 |
| raddy | if I rename a gzip file, would it change the underlying file name ? | 09:53 |
| Ben64 | underlying file name? | 09:53 |
| Aryan | ducasse: it's too late, it's 19.10 | 09:53 |
| Aryan | but i have a question | 09:54 |
| raddy | Ben64: example : mydb.sql is the underlying file. | 09:54 |
| Aryan | in my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, i have prompt=lts | 09:54 |
| Ben64 | raddy: did you just do gzip mydb.sql | 09:55 |
| raddy | Yes | 09:55 |
| raddy | Ben64: Yes | 09:55 |
| Aryan | then why it is upgraded to 19.10 while i had prompt=lts | 09:56 |
| Aryan | ? | 09:56 |
| Ben64 | well if you do gunzip it'll use whatever is before the .gz as the name | 09:56 |
| raddy | Ben64: So, if I rename the gzip, then file name as well be changed, am I correct ? | 09:59 |
| Aryan | Does apt dist-upgrade upgrade the distribution ? | 10:03 |
| ducasse | no, not unless you manually edit sources.list, which is not a supported way to do it | 10:03 |
| Aryan | ducasse: i did apt dist-upgrade and now my ubuntu version is 19.10 | 10:05 |
| Aryan | what happened here ? | 10:06 |
| Aryan | i though apt dist-upgrade would just upgrade the packages | 10:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !uptodate | Aryan to keep system up to date | 10:18 |
| ubottu | Aryan to keep system up to date: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 10:18 |
| Aryan | !upgrade | 10:22 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 10:22 |
| Aryan | !upgrades | 10:22 |
| Aryan | when ubuntu 20.04 will be available ? | 11:31 |
| oerheks | in month 4 | 11:32 |
| Aryan | 4 month later ? | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 11:32 |
| oerheks | sure | 11:33 |
| oerheks | and 5 months, 6 monts.. 4 years | 11:33 |
| Aryan | :/ | 11:33 |
| Aryan | what are you talking about ? | 11:33 |
| Ben64 | 20.04 = 2020/04 | 11:33 |
| Aryan | aha | 11:34 |
| Ben64 | so it'll be out before 2020/05 | 11:34 |
| _alx_ | is it possible to install these 3 packages https://bpaste.net/YYKA (ubuntu) without having my GPU inside? | 11:38 |
| oerheks | _alx_, i think so, have you tried? | 11:43 |
| _alx_ | oerheks: they don't seem to show up | 11:43 |
| lotuspsychje | _alx_: why do you need graphics drivers without your card plugged? | 11:44 |
| _alx_ | lotuspsychje: because the image is build (building takes about 4 hours) on a different computer and then gets deployed and updated nightly | 11:45 |
| oerheks | interesting, so it is not an install? | 11:46 |
| oerheks | and how do you tell they don't show up? | 11:46 |
| _alx_ | oerheks: yes and no, I need them so I can use CUDA | 11:46 |
| _alx_ | apt search nvidia shows next to nothing | 11:46 |
| _alx_ | (after updating) | 11:46 |
| Aryan | what is -u option in apt command ? | 11:48 |
| Aryan | what does it do ? | 11:48 |
| Aryan | Nobody knows ? | 11:50 |
| oerheks | man apt ; good resource | 11:54 |
| oerheks | or better, man apt-get | 11:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | Ben64: We are volunteers here, we don't know when the release will actually take place. Given the current world issues, things could be delayed. That is all up to canonical, the company that creates and offers Ubuntu, to decide. | 12:02 |
| lotuspsychje | got the wrong nick pragmaticenigma | 12:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | oops | 12:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | how'd I do that? | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 12:45 |
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| MWM | I was thinking of putting together an Edubuntu box, but see that it is based on 14.04 and hasnt moved forward since then. | 13:27 |
| MWM | Then I thought I would just set up a vanilla ubuntu box and add the packages, but noted that there was gnome mixed in with kde apps. Do gnome and kde co-exist well without additional vood-doo? | 13:28 |
| oerheks | i think it is still there? not as an iso ..https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/edubuntu-desktop | 13:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: There is no such thing as "Gnome apps" there are apps that run using GTK libraries for window drawing and management. GTK and QT have co-existed for many years just fine. | 13:29 |
| MWM | gmm. Ill look at that. Latest version on the Edubuntu pages is 14.04.02 https://www.edubuntu.org/download | 13:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | Edubuntu was discontinued, MWM and oerheks | 13:30 |
| MWM | pragmaticenigma: Ty for the clarification and the answer | 13:30 |
| akkonrad | hey. I've got an issue with my gnome / ubuntu 19.04 when hitting windows sign on the laptop and the global gnome search appears, sometimes it locks entire screen so I can't click anything between topbar and bottom bar. To fix it I need to logout and login again. | 13:30 |
| akkonrad | or when I close all the windows and desktop appears with the search input, I am able to search, but I can't open anyhing or close the search overlay | 13:31 |
| MWM | akkonrad: what if you alt + tab ? Ive seen similar with other distros and worked around it with alt + tab | 13:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | they left MWM ... Alt + Tab is for application switching, the Logo (Win) key when pressed, opens the application launcher | 13:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | I'm guessing they have an extension that is intercepting or affecting the normal behavior of Gnome-shell | 13:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: Is there a specific software package you were looking for in Edubuntu? | 13:36 |
| MWM | is anyone aware of current Education based distros? seems like the ones I am looking at have all discontinued. | 13:37 |
| MWM | I was looking at edubuntu as a 'play' machine to give to kids. Gateway into Linux and free alternative to Windows | 13:37 |
| MWM | No specific requirements except for stability | 13:38 |
| clarkk2 | Last night I was having problems with my Dell Precision 7510 laptop running Ubuntu 18.04, where the mouse was not behaving reliably (would change to another cursor and I wouldn't be able to click anything) and the keypad wouldn't output any numbers. It may have been due to some standard updates I installed or a bios update. I took the rash move of resetting my BIOS to see if it fixes it, but now the system won't boot | 13:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: "Edubuntu" is still available as a meta package once you have Ubuntu installed. You can use "sudo apt install edubuntu-desktop" ... I don't believe the education edition had any specific limitations, just a software suite preinstalled/curated | 13:39 |
| clarkk2 | It's a dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. Actually, the system does boot, but straight into windows - and noone wants that, do they! | 13:40 |
| akkonrad | sorry I had to quit and re-logout becauase of my issue, does anyone respond to my issue? | 13:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: For stability, I would recommend installing Ubuntu LTS releases. (18.04 is the most recent) | 13:40 |
| clarkk2 | I have tried going into setup and changing the boot partition to what I think is ubuntu, but it does gives a message and clearly doesn't know where the OS is | 13:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: Have you disabled fast-startup in windows? | 13:41 |
| MWM | That is what I had thought to do, but was worried about the GTK/QT interaction that you already addressed. | 13:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: As long as you don't mess with "themes" everything blends seemlessly | 13:41 |
| MWM | clarkk2: can you even get to the Grub menu? | 13:42 |
| clarkk2 | It was quite a long time ago, so I can't quite remember exactly how I set it up. I *think* it's an EFI boot (this may be the wrong term, but I'm a bit out of touch with how it works at this level), and I can see a /EFI/ directory with sub directories of windows, Dell, ubuntu, and in the ubuntu one, it does have grub files | 13:42 |
| clarkk2 | MWM: No, I can't get into the grub menu | 13:43 |
| clarkk2 | I can boot to the Ubuntu live disk, which is how I'm chatting here now | 13:43 |
| clarkk2 | and I can mount some partitions to see what's on them | 13:43 |
| oerheks | clarkk2, how about booting in UEFI mode? | 13:43 |
| oerheks | !uefi | 13:43 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 13:43 |
| oerheks | read that manual, disable srt and fastboot. | 13:43 |
| MWM | First thing I would try is to chroot into the install and update grub but Im not procifient enough to know if that will specifically help your issue | 13:45 |
| MWM | https://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | clarkk2: did you try holding down the shift key while booting, that should bring up the grub menu | 13:45 |
| clarkk2 | MWM: oerheks - I have not changed anything in windows. Windows and Ubuntu were working correctly until I reset the bios. Some settings may be different in the bios, although it's difficult to say as stupidly I didn't keep a proper record | 13:46 |
| clarkk2 | if srt and fastboot are within the windows OS, then this is not the answer. If they are in the bios, then they might be. Could you confirm? | 13:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: There's a much smoother approach... grub should be one of the last things recommended at the moment | 13:46 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: Fastboot is a UEFI/System firmware feature | 13:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: What have you recently changed on that machine? I assume things were working well up until recently? | 13:47 |
| clarkk2 | pragmaticenigma: correct - I'll I've done is reset the bios | 13:48 |
| MWM | pragmaticenigma: good I will let you guys help the poor fella. I default to nuking the drive and reinstalling when I get too mixed up. You guys can probably save him from my help :D | 13:48 |
| clarkk2 | what is SRT? | 13:49 |
| MWM | I am gonna stick around though and see if I can learn anything from the advice given | 13:49 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: Then it's very likely your BIOS that caused your issue... check there for the fastboot (I'm not familiar with SRT) being set | 13:49 |
| clarkk2 | MWM: Me too ;) | 13:49 |
| clarkk2 | I will disable fastboot. I don't know (or maybe, remember) EFI - if it has some configuration that tells it where the boot sector is, then could this have been wiped? | 13:51 |
| clarkk2 | from the bios alone - not from the OS | 13:52 |
| clarkk2 | literally the ONLY thing I did was reset the bios to factory settings | 13:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: with EFI... there aren't boot sectors in the traditional sense, but with fastboot, it will often default to the first partition or system disk found (or last used if you managed to interrupt the previous boot) | 13:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | EFI systems, each OS places a marker in the EFI partition table to signal that it is bootable and where to find it's boot handler | 13:54 |
| clarkk2 | Sorry if I'm asking anyone to repeat themselves. I'm just asking all these questions now because it takes me quite some time to get back onto freenode once I reboot the machine, because I have to configure everything from scratch again. | 13:54 |
| clarkk2 | pragmaticenigma: does that get cleared when you reset the bios settings? | 13:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: That is something you would have to consult the manual of your system for | 13:55 |
| clarkk2 | hmm, damn | 13:56 |
| clarkk2 | ok, thanks for everyone's help. I'll come back to tell you the outcome, regardless of what it is | 13:56 |
| clarkk2 | laters | 13:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: I suspect disabling the fastboot will get you much further along | 13:56 |
| clarkk2 | thanks | 13:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk2: from there... the worst you might have to do is repair grub | 13:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: To follow up... the edubuntu-desktop package will install the ubuntu-desktop meta package (gnome-shell) ... I would recommend using Gnome for the edubuntu experience | 13:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/edubuntu-desktop | 13:58 |
| MWM | ty for that. As I said my main worry with that course of action was instability between GTK/QT. Now that I know that isnt an issue I can rest easy. THanks again :D | 13:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: sure thing... just wanted you to be informed what that metapackage would do. You can also look at that page and see what packages are installed and pick and choose what you'd like instead of using the entire meta package | 14:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | MWM: IN there there are also ubuntu-edu-preschool, ubuntu-edu-primary, ubuntu-edu-secondary, ubuntu-edu-tertiary ... software bundled (meta packages) that install level specific recommended software | 14:02 |
| clarkk | yaaaayyyyyy :) | 14:07 |
| clarkk | So, fastboot was set to "thorough", while the other two options were "automatic" and "minimal". I kept it on thorough, because it seemed like the opposite to fastboot. | 14:08 |
| clarkk | That didn't work, so I went back into the bios and added a UEFI boot option to the list. I just had to name it and point it to the boot.efi file in the ububtu EFI directory I mentioned earlier | 14:09 |
| MWM | Go team Linux! | 14:09 |
| clarkk | Now I'm back up and running. Thanks so much everyone | 14:09 |
| Bun | Is there any information available on how Ubuntu Base images are created? | 14:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | clarkk: You're welcome, glad we could help you out. Even better... you are now more an expert on EFI than me :-) | 14:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | Bun: That would be a question better suited for #ubuntu-devel I think | 14:13 |
| Bun | alright, I'll try there, thanks | 14:14 |
| akem_ | I got Xorg input lock ups sometimes, it forces me to switch to console mode when i can, but usually to reboot, any idea what it could be? | 14:23 |
| akem_ | The mouse can still move, but buttons aren't responding, and keyboard neither. Killing X, restarting the session didn't help. | 14:24 |
| akem_ | It's an HP Pavilion laptop. | 14:24 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: wich ubuntu release is that? | 14:28 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, 18.04 | 14:28 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: on wich kernel and graphics card? | 14:29 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, Nvidia drivers, kernel 5.4.6, i built it myself because of my Wifi driver. | 14:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ah, do you get lockups on current bionic kernel akem_ ? | 14:30 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, I don't know, i don't use it. My Wifi driver was leaking with the Ubuntu kernel. I couldn't use it. | 14:31 |
| akem_ | I wonder if this could be related to the Nvidia drivers somehow, some interrupt or something not directly the inputs...In console mode it worked. | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: wich card and driver version? | 14:32 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, v 390.77, it's an optimus laptop with both intel/nvidia. | 14:33 |
| akem_ | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] (rev 07) | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: if there are higher driver versions available you could try those too | 14:34 |
| akem_ | Hm it doesn't display the Nvidia chip on that line. | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: can you pastebin your dmesg plz? | 14:34 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, https://gist.github.com/akem3210/f2784ace8b6812e128ca344e381c0f0c | 14:37 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: meanwhile, can you check if you got crash logs in /var/crash ? | 14:38 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, I see that: [15823.993296] i915 0000:00:02.0: GPU HANG: ecode 9:1:0x00000000, hang on rcs0 | 14:40 |
| akem_ | [15823.994301] i915 0000:00:02.0: Resetting rcs0 for hang on rcs0 | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah that looks something akem_ | 14:40 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, no just unrelated in /var/crash, chromium and virtualbox... | 14:40 |
| akem_ | i915 is the intel graphic chip if i'm not mistaken. | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: [drm:gen8_reset_engines [i915]] | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: think you might boot a few other kernels, and compare if you can reproduce this, to rule out its about kernel 5.4 | 14:42 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic bionic | 14:42 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.91.83 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 16 kB | 14:42 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic-HWE-18.04 bionic | 14:43 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, I think my Wifi will crap out with 4.X kernel :( | 14:43 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.0.42.99 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB | 14:43 |
| lotuspsychje | try HWE akem_ | 14:43 |
| akem_ | Yeah ok. | 14:43 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: i think its this bug #1861395 | 14:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1861395 in linux (Ubuntu Focal) "system hang: i915 Resetting rcs0 for hang on rcs0" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1861395 | 14:46 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: fix #49 | 14:47 |
| lotuspsychje | akem_: seems thats current 20.04 kernel updated yesterday | 14:49 |
| akem_ | lotuspsychje, Yes it's this bug. Thanks. | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | : ) | 14:50 |
| acovrig | I'm trying to do a port forward from tun0:5060 -> IP_on_eth1:5060 using ufw and it doesn't seem to be working | 14:56 |
| acovrig | should I see 5060 in netstat -lunt? | 14:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | acovrig: I think providing the volunteers here with the exact entry you've added to ufw would help | 14:57 |
| Mi5ter | Hi, was hoping someone can help me with an issue. I have a Harman Kardon Soundsticks stereo connected to my computer, its connected straight into the motherboard audio out plug. Problem is that Ubuntu seems to put this connection in power saving mode or something like this, because it disconnected the stereo after a certain amount of time. Is there anywhere I can configure audio power mangement to disable power saving? I'm on a stationary, not a | 14:58 |
| Mi5ter | laptop. Thanks | 14:58 |
| acovrig | sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i tun0 -p udp -d tun_ip --dport 5060 -j DNAT --to phone_server_ip:5060 | 14:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | acovrig: That's not ufw... that's iptables | 14:59 |
| viktar | TJ-: are you around today? i re-ran the losetup command we were discussing yesterday as at some point during one of my earlier reboots the drive letter changed and i didn't notice... facepalm moment for sure. anyway, i see this output: /dev/sda2: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, UUID=<long string i don't want to type out> (extents) (large files) | 15:02 |
| viktar | (huge files) | 15:02 |
| viktar | that's more promising, right? | 15:03 |
| acovrig | pragmaticenigma: I guess I'm used to iptables (never used ufw), the guides I see mention ufw for allowing/denying traffic, but iptables for forwarding, can ufw not forward? | 15:05 |
| oerheks | sudo ufw allow proto tcp from any to x.x.y.y port 80 | 15:06 |
| oerheks | something like that? | 15:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | ufw can forward... however I don't know how to mix ufw with iptables... I would pick one or the other | 15:06 |
| acovrig | OK, say I pick ufw (cuz I guess it'd be good to learn it), how do I forward with it? | 15:06 |
| acovrig | oerheks: sorta? I have sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to tun0_ip port 5060, but that doesn't route it to the sip server, it just allows the traffic to the FW | 15:07 |
| acovrig | pragmaticenigma: I added "-A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 5060 -j DNAT --to-destination sip_server_ip:5060" to "/etc/ufw/before.rules" and restarted ufw, but I don't see 5060 in netstat... | 15:11 |
| donofrio | so what do I do if networkmanager is having a hard time connecting to my access point? | 15:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | acovrig: I'm not familiar with firewalls enough to help in this scenario.. I was only trying to encourage you to provide more information for other volunteers to pick up on | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | acovrig: see also the #netfilter channel | 15:14 |
| tsaka__ | Can I get some help installing Emacs26 Lucid on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS? | 15:14 |
| tsaka__ | It's not in the repo and the deb has unmet dependencies. | 15:14 |
| oerheks | tsaka__, no. | 15:16 |
| oerheks | unless you want to use an untrusted PPA https://launchpad.net/~kelleyk/+archive/ubuntu/emacs | 15:17 |
| pragmaticenigma | tsaka__: Support here is only for software that is available in the repos... installing software from other sources is at your own risk | 15:18 |
| oerheks | jups, we don't fix things in that ppa too. | 15:18 |
| lotuspsychje | tsaka__: there's an emacs snap 26.3 if you want | 15:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | tsaka__: if you require a newer version of an application... you should upgrade your version of Ubuntu, to a version that includes the targetted version of the software you wish to use. Note: 16.04 is coming up on EOL within a year | 15:18 |
| acovrig | BTW, 18.04 doesn't have emacs26 in the repo (that I've seen) - I personally either install it from that ppa or build from src | 15:19 |
| acovrig | lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll as on netfilter when I get back | 15:20 |
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| tsaka__ | the kelleyk repo doesn't package emacs-lucid :/ | 15:20 |
| oerheks | next FOcal 20.04 will .. https://launchpad.net/emacs/+packages | 15:20 |
| hggdh | tsaka__: there is emacs 26.3 as a snap | 15:20 |
| tsaka__ | hggdh: with lucid? Where? | 15:20 |
| oerheks | 16.04 = xenial | 15:21 |
| hggdh | tsaka__: snaps will run on any supported Ubuntu. Just run 'sudo snap install emacs' | 15:21 |
| tsaka__ | i'm not talking about lucid, the ubuntu version | 15:21 |
| tsaka__ | but emacs-lucid, the package | 15:21 |
| oerheks | https://snapcraft.io/emacs | 15:21 |
| tsaka__ | different GUI than emacs | 15:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | tsaka__: "snap find emacs" | 15:22 |
| hggdh | ah, no, I do not thing so | 15:22 |
| lotuspsychje | emacs-lucid - GNU Emacs editor (with Lucid GUI support) | 15:22 |
| oerheks | lucid had no emacs26... how did you get that idea? | 15:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | oerheks: Not Ubuntu Lucid... Emacs with Lucid support | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | it shows in 20.04 repos^ | 15:23 |
| oerheks | oh | 15:23 |
| oerheks | * lucid lynx was 10.04 LTS. | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | tsaka__: if you install ubuntu 20.04 you will get 26.3+1-1ubuntu1 (focal) (or higher) at final | 15:24 |
| tsaka__ | If i build from source I'll still require the same dependencies marked as missing when trying to install the deb | 15:26 |
| tsaka__ | ? | 15:26 |
| tsaka__ | probably time to upgrade the Ubuntu install yeah.. all the amazon aws deep learning images has been based on 16.04 until just a month ago I think | 15:33 |
| phigan | Hello.. Anyone happen to be good at pam.d configs? I have an issue where I'm using radius, with a file specifying a user that can bypass radius, but on 2nd password prompt it allows anyone to bypass radius. If I replace "sufficient" with some tweaks, I can make 2nd and 4th prompts always fail. | 15:44 |
| anden | every time i do a fresh install of Lubuntu 18.04 the default terminal font in lxterminal gets changed to some weird one that is hard to read. this problem doesn't happen in the live environment prior to installing, but appears as soon as i boot up the system the first time on the new install | 15:50 |
| anden | i've had it happen on 3 or 4 computers now, and on one of them it just fixed itself over time, not sure what i did, i guess it must have been some update or some package that i installed | 15:50 |
| anden | i checked the terminal font settings on both the machine with the problem and the one that got it fixed over time, and they're identical | 15:51 |
| oerheks | anden, it is easy to adjust in terminal settings | 15:51 |
| anden | it is not actually just a problem with the terminal, it also affects Discord and some other apps. i think some font package is not installed that should be | 15:52 |
| anden | probably due to a bug, since the problem doesn't happen while in live environment | 15:52 |
| oerheks | sounds like you have a 4K monitor? | 15:52 |
| anden | nope. 1080p. but it happens on low res monitors too | 15:52 |
| anden | the first machine i had it happen on is an X230 with a 1366x768 monitor | 15:52 |
| eliyahuTBR | Hello all. Can anyone recommend a program that will allow me to record my screen and do a voice over? | 16:02 |
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| enriooooooo | what is password for sudo under ubuntu-latest | 16:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | enriooooooo: The sudo password should be the same as the password you used to login into the system with | 16:09 |
| enriooooooo | well i setup the docker | 16:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | enriooooooo: Docker images are not supported here... you have to reach out to the maintainer of the docker image for support | 16:10 |
| enriooooooo | not sure what is default password when i pull ubuntu-latest | 16:10 |
| oerheks | interesting, did you check the docker manuals? | 16:12 |
| DrJ | is it possible to make the entire ubuntu system immutable? so that with each reboot all changes are lost? | 16:24 |
| DrJ | setting up laptops that are for the sole purpose of running vmware horizon client and hoping to prevent the possibility that end user can do anything to mess it up | 16:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | DrJ: that is what the live images are for... you could technically DD write the live ISO to a drive (like you would a USB) and have the same effect | 16:25 |
| ncuxo | DrJ: give the live images | 16:25 |
| ncuxo | lol | 16:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | DrJ: as far as the extra software you need... I'm not sure how to integrate that... kind of surprised a tutorial for this scenario doesn't exist somewhere on the web | 16:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | DrJ: You can also make sure the system runs with an unpriveledged users... that would prevent them from modifying system level settings and prevent package installation | 16:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | it would not prevent them from using portable applications saved to their local /home directory | 16:28 |
| ncuxo | or maybe boot from a pxe server and use a kickstart file | 16:28 |
| DrJ | these are laptops they will be taking home with them to work during this stupid coronavirus | 16:29 |
| DrJ | so the pxe server is not an option | 16:29 |
| ncuxo | then install whatever they will need and get them a low priv users | 16:30 |
| DrJ | that's what I've done | 16:30 |
| ncuxo | lock the grub bootloader | 16:30 |
| ncuxo | ! | 16:30 |
| DrJ | but just figured I'd see if there is a 100% way where I could say just restart the laptop if you have a problem | 16:30 |
| ncuxo | well use tails :D | 16:31 |
| DrJ | tails? | 16:31 |
| ncuxo | after each install it will be the original system | 16:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | tails is not supported here... and I would not recommend that as a solution as it runs all network connections through Tor proxy servers | 16:32 |
| ncuxo | it was a joke | 16:32 |
| ncuxo | if he gives them tails they will have high privs | 16:32 |
| ioria | DrJ, some additional details might help, but if you replace gdm with lightdm you can re-enable and use the Guest Session | 16:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | DrJ: You've done your best, there is never a 100% assurance that a User will not find a way to muck things up. At the issuance of each laptop, make sure they're aware that if anything goes wrong, you can't help them right away | 16:33 |
| acovrig_afk | DrJ: Could you use LVM with snapshots and revert the snapshot on boot? Would it also be an idea to mount /home with the noexec? flag to not allow things to be executed from /home? (I just jumped in, so take my thought with a grain of salt) | 16:40 |
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| Peppi | hello | 16:42 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/24pl | 16:43 |
| Peppi | how messed up is the hard drive and can I fix it? Will a format work? | 16:43 |
| randy^ins | I would not trust my life on that drive. | 16:47 |
| lordcirth_ | 2 self-tests failed with read error? yeah, it's failing | 16:47 |
| lordcirth_ | Peppi, get the data onto a good drive ASAP, or preferably a ZFS pool of multiple drives. | 16:49 |
| randy^ins | What filesystem do you have on it? | 16:49 |
| randy^ins | Worst case, you could do a fsck.ext4(for example) -c to find bad blocks and add them to the badblock list. That way the OS won't use them. Still, get a new drive. | 16:50 |
| Peppi | lordcirth_, the drive has all ready been migrated | 16:53 |
| Peppi | randy^ins, so the drive is garbage? | 16:53 |
| Peppi | is there no way to fix bad sectors? | 16:53 |
| Peppi | would a format not "fix" it? | 16:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: The drive would be fine for a scratch disk till it actually dies... but would not use it for anything vital | 16:54 |
| randy^ins | Peppi: There is, you could do a fsck with the -c option. | 16:54 |
| oerheks | bad sectors grow .. | 16:54 |
| lordcirth_ | Peppi, if you were using, eg, ZFS raidz2, you could justify using it a bit longer. Or just for scratch space/cache. | 16:54 |
| randy^ins | I agree with oerheks and lordcirth_. You should really not rely on the drive. If you *need* to use it however, there are tricks like the badblock option. | 16:55 |
| randy^ins | Which is a temporary solution to get data of the drive and such. | 16:56 |
| Peppi | I'm just not confident it's actually bad... I had it in my NAS and it all happened when I copied something to it. I'm not convinced the sectors are actually bad. Is SMART ever wrong? Does formatting the drive reset the bad sectors? If I format and do a SMART scan will it still find those bad sectors? | 16:56 |
| lordcirth_ | SMART frequently misses problems, but rarely raises false alarms | 16:56 |
| lordcirth_ | You can run a badblocks scan | 16:56 |
| Peppi | lordcirth_, how do I do that? | 16:57 |
| myphs | hi, is there a way to open the context menu by executing a command? | 16:57 |
| lordcirth_ | Peppi, man badblocks | 16:57 |
| randy^ins | Peppi: fsck -c | 16:57 |
| Peppi | randy^ins, isn't that just going to "hide" the bad blocks? | 16:58 |
| EriC^ | Peppi: on the contrary it should uncover them | 16:58 |
| randy^ins | Peppi: It will add them to a list of bad blocks and tell the operating system not to use them. It won't magically fix them, no. | 16:58 |
| lordcirth_ | It records the bad blocks in metadata and the filesystem won't use them | 16:58 |
| oerheks | but bad sectors grow .. | 16:59 |
| EriC^ | yeah if bad sectors start it's time to get a new hdd | 16:59 |
| Peppi | my premis is there are no bad blocks | 17:00 |
| Peppi | the drive is only 4 years old | 17:00 |
| EriC^ | Peppi: didn't you say smart test showed some? | 17:00 |
| lordcirth_ | Most drives have 3 year warranties at most | 17:00 |
| lordcirth_ | a 4-year-old drive failing isn't surprising at all. | 17:00 |
| Peppi | my premise is the NAS added the blocks as bad when they weren't | 17:01 |
| EriC^ | Peppi: pastebin the output of 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdx' where sdx is your hdd | 17:01 |
| Peppi | https://termbin.com/24pl | 17:01 |
| EriC^ | 30 bad sectors | 17:02 |
| EriC^ | hdd is failing | 17:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | The drive controller sets the bad sectors, not the OS Peppi ... your theory is incorrect | 17:03 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, ok. then it is what it is... to the drill it goes lol | 17:04 |
| Peppi | EriC^, how do you read 30? | 17:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: That's why we're all saying the drive would be fine for something non-critical, like scratch for a video/photo editing or swap space for a database. | 17:04 |
| EriC^ | Peppi: Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 199 199 140 Pre-fail Always - 30 | 17:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | The last value for ID# 5... the RAW value represents the number of failed sectors for that particular reading | 17:05 |
| Peppi | EriC^, got it thanks | 17:06 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, got it thanks | 17:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: "VALUE" is a count down, the closer to "THRESH" is bad | 17:06 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, wait I don't understand that | 17:06 |
| Peppi | ooh | 17:07 |
| Peppi | wait ok | 17:07 |
| EriC^ | i think threshold is like a 'critical sectors' when it reaches that it's really bad, i'm guessing | 17:07 |
| Peppi | this is the other drive (sister drive) https://termbin.com/59eg7 | 17:07 |
| EriC^ | Peppi: that one's clean as a whistle | 17:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | Threshold in the case of bad sectors represents a point when the drive may not be able to reliable reallocate sectors from the available unallocated | 17:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: Are these drive mounted in close proximity to one another? | 17:08 |
| Peppi | anyhow it's bad and it has nothing to do with my stupid NAS. SMART is failing and that's that right? | 17:08 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, they were... in my 4 bay NAS | 17:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: Check to make sure the bushings to dampen vibration are in there or in the caddies. | 17:09 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, I assume so. I have 2 other drives that are around the same age. In the NAS | 17:10 |
| Peppi | I currently have the drive in my odriod hc2 | 17:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | Peppi: I would double check... drives don't like vibration. If this is a dedicated NAS, I'm hoping you are purchasing drives designed for NAS enclosures | 17:12 |
| jg_agility | hello, any one here familar with netplan? I am having a issue with the response codes that netplan try returns. if i run a /usr/sbin/netplan try --config-file /etc/netplan/99-network-config.yaml and there are errors in the config I still get exit code 0 from the command even though it failed | 17:13 |
| Peppi | pragmaticenigma, it's a QNAP 4 bay NAS I assume they have what they need | 17:14 |
| Peppi | my odriod hc2 though is another story I guess | 17:14 |
| Peppi | brb | 17:14 |
| j`ey | im on 18.04, whenever I click an item on the menu it seems to want me to drag it around to re-order it | 17:25 |
| j`ey | why is that? can I stop that | 17:25 |
| j`ey | adding it to the favourites fixed it | 17:26 |
| jg_agility | is there somewhere better for me to ask me question? maybe another channel? | 17:36 |
| al3xandr0s | ask and wait | 17:37 |
| jg_agility | thanks | 17:37 |
| jg_agility | i will continue to wait | 17:37 |
| al3xandr0s | ask your question and someone will see it and replay to you | 17:39 |
| al3xandr0s | maybe i'll help you if i know | 17:39 |
| jg_agility | I am having a issue with the response codes that netplan try returns. if i run a /usr/sbin/netplan try --config-file /etc/netplan/99-network-config.yaml and there are errors in the config I still get exit code 0 from the command even though it failed | 17:40 |
| Squall5668 | jg_agility: If I make a typo in netplan and use try it correctly returns 1 with "Error while loading /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml, aborting." | 17:42 |
| Squall5668 | what kind of error does your file have so I can give it a try? | 17:42 |
| al3xandr0s | sudo crontab -e | 17:42 |
| al3xandr0s | @reboot /usr/sbin/netplan apply | 17:42 |
| jg_agility | Squall5668 /etc/netplan/99-network-config.1584466848.8961432.yaml:10:7: Error in network definition: invalid prefix length in address '10.0.2.15/256' | 17:43 |
| jg_agility | it is a "fake" error that i manually put in the file to test | 17:43 |
| Squall5668 | yup, just tested the same thing. It did return 0, hm | 17:44 |
| jg_agility | it is weird to me, because it is very non standard for linux commands to return code 0 on failure | 17:44 |
| jg_agility | unless netplan is telling me that the revert succeeded even though the attempt to use the new file failed | 17:45 |
| jg_agility | at the end of the day what i am really trying to do is validate the config before I apply it. deploying a bad config and then applying it may leave a vm in a bad state | 17:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | jg_agility: The issue is that you can't rely on the return code when the function is a test... The reason you get a zero when you check the config is because the application successfully checked the config file for errors an reported them. The program itself didn't error out | 17:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | The return code of an application indicates if the application that ran had an error... not what it was processing | 17:53 |
| jg_agility | sure but that make the return code of that subcommand of netplan fare less usefull | 17:53 |
| jg_agility | because now there isnt a reliable way to know if there were errors during the checking of the config | 17:54 |
| pragmaticenigma | jg_agility: You would have to capture the output. One thing you can do is see where the output is being sent. most application send "informational" messages to stderr, while stdout will contain the actual report | 17:55 |
| firewire1394 | h | 17:55 |
| jg_agility | hmm, ok. it going to be tricky because netplan produces multi line output that is not easy to parse | 17:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | jg_agility: I do it all the time, however, such discussion is off topic here unfortunately | 17:57 |
| lordcirth__ | jg_agility, have you tried calling netplan generate? Maybe it will return failure | 17:57 |
| jg_agility | pragmaticenigma: ok thank you. | 17:58 |
| jg_agility | lordcirth_ the difficulty with generate is that it will write to disk, so the bad changes are persisted | 17:58 |
| jg_agility | pragmaticenigma out of curiosity i double checked with visudo and it's behaviour is much more in line with what i expected | 17:59 |
| jg_agility | returns error code if the file fails to parse: /usr/sbin/visudo -c -f sudo-test | 17:59 |
| jg_agility | >>> sudo-test: syntax error near line 1 <<< | 17:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | I guess then it would appear it's a developer decision. could file a bug against it | 18:00 |
| jg_agility | guess i could file a bug, but it seems like they mostly get ignored and languish forever when they are not important. and more likely i am going to be told that it is the intended behaviour | 18:01 |
| jg_agility | thank you for you help. I will fumble my way through parseing the output | 18:02 |
| drvy | Hello guys, I'm trying to install some packages like "Slack" and "GitKraken" on Ubuntu 20.04 (current daily) but I keep getting unmet dependencies: Depends: python but it is not installable. Any guess? Thanks | 18:06 |
| leftyfb | !ubuntu+1 | drvy | 18:06 |
| ubottu | drvy: Focal Fossa is the codename for Ubuntu 20.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 | 18:06 |
| drvy | ugh, sorry! | 18:06 |
| bleb | dpkg --configure -a is stalling | 18:16 |
| bleb | this is what i see: http://ix.io/2evN | 18:16 |
| bleb | it's been stuck there for about 10 minutes | 18:16 |
| bleb | should i wait longer? or is there something i can try? | 18:17 |
| r3muxd | i think my GPU is dying | 18:17 |
| r3muxd | on a lot of Valve games on linux, the screen becomes extremely scrambled and flickers | 18:17 |
| r3muxd | the UI looks like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389102232747900929/689535466826891435/unknown.png and the game itself looks like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389102232747900929/689536207079997488/Screenshot_from_2020-03-17_14-09-00.png | 18:18 |
| lordcirth__ | r3muxd, might be. Any errors in dmesg? | 18:20 |
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| r3muxd | [112736.742446] hl2_linux[139836]: segfault at dff44 ip 00000000eff91f1f sp 00000000fffe0360 error 4 in vphysics.so[efe5d000+1a7000] | 18:20 |
| r3muxd | [112736.742453] Code: 45 a0 89 c6 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 f3 0f 10 43 28 0f 57 c9 f3 0f 5c 43 18 0f 2f c8 76 4e 0f b7 43 2e c1 e0 04 03 43 24 8b 40 0c <8b> 10 f3 0f 11 44 24 08 89 5c 24 04 89 04 24 ff 52 04 83 ee 01 79 | 18:20 |
| r3muxd | which is weird | 18:20 |
| r3muxd | because it didn't crash | 18:20 |
| Guest73723 | heya guys i'm running ubuntu 18.04 and i'm trying to get my external screen to run 640x480. This resolution is not available from the drop down menu so i have to force it using xrandr | 18:20 |
| === Guest73723 is now known as `mist | ||
| `mist | how do i go about making the change permanent | 18:21 |
| `mist | none of the solutions available on google seem to work. putting it in Xsession.d, .profile, and whatever other places i've put it | 18:21 |
| r3muxd | actually i can only recreate it under two conditions: it's an old (as in pre-2013) source engine game, and the game has been open for more than 30 minutes | 18:23 |
| sarnold | bleb: probably best to wait a bit; how long has it been going? is there anything in top or dmesg that looks out of place or may explain what's going on? | 18:24 |
| oerheks | r3muxd, what do you think ubuntu can do about this? | 18:24 |
| oerheks | replace cpu? | 18:24 |
| oerheks | err gpu | 18:24 |
| r3muxd | it only happens on those games now that i think about it and only on linux | 18:24 |
| oerheks | try some lower graphical settings? | 18:24 |
| bleb | sarnold: 20 minutes now | 18:24 |
| r3muxd | doesn't even matter if i'm actually in-game, just leaving it at the menu will have it slowly degrade into what looks like a TV in-between two channels | 18:25 |
| ioria | bleb, why don't you open another tab and run dmesg ? | 18:25 |
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| bleb | ioria: okay | 18:27 |
| bleb | what should i look for? | 18:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | r3muxd: Who are you speaking to? Steam client and associated games are not supported here. If you are having difficulty with the client and/or the games, you need to contact Valve's support options | 18:27 |
| ioria | bleb, well, for starter, you can tell us why you're running dpkg --configure -a (as root) | 18:28 |
| ioria | bleb, it's a dual boot system ? did you removed manually some kernel packages ? did you stop a previous upgardes ? etc. etc. | 18:29 |
| bleb | ioria: i was following this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1109982/e-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-frontend-open-11-resource-temporari | 18:30 |
| bleb | because some auto-upgrade thing was holding the locks and preventing apt upgrade | 18:31 |
| sarnold | yikes | 18:33 |
| sarnold | so you interrupted an update already in progress to do .. what? | 18:34 |
| bleb | i don't know if there was an update in progress | 18:34 |
| ioria | bleb, ps auxf | cat | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:34 |
| bleb | but the goal was to update the software on my system | 18:34 |
| bleb | i think there is a gui thing that pops up periodically on xubuntu, asking the user to click "confirm" or something | 18:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | bleb: If there is an error when you are trying to update... come here first... and don't follow articles with big banners at the top that say closed, and relocate you to another post that is 9 years old | 18:35 |
| pragmaticenigma | should have been a warning | 18:35 |
| bleb | that may have been running and waiting for a gui user to click okay | 18:36 |
| bleb | ioria: https://termbin.com/scev | 18:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | bleb: the locks happen periodically because apt is trying to update the package listing in the background. If you have unattended upgrades, that could also cause the issue. Last, if you interrupted a previous update prematurely the lock files may have gone stale and weren't removed | 18:36 |
| ioria | bleb, are you working via ssh ? | 18:38 |
| bleb | ioria: yeah | 18:38 |
| ioria | bleb, disk space is ok ? df -h | 18:39 |
| bleb | pragmaticenigma: i already did this: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock | 18:39 |
| bleb | sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock | 18:39 |
| bleb | sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock* | 18:39 |
| bleb | ioria: says i have 6.2G available | 18:39 |
| ioria | bleb, i think it's probing something ... | 18:41 |
| sarnold | bleb: alright, so my guess: kill 16997 17301 17407 17424 17425 17426 22649 23423 23427 23428 23582 23583 23587 23588 23429 23430 31609 32385 32389 32390 32545 32546 32550 32551 5559 6334 6338 6339 6493 6494 6498 6499 6595 6596 6597 11926 12701 12705 12706 12860 12861 12865 12866 12707 12708 13035 | 18:42 |
| ioria | bleb, and unattended is doing the same job as dpkg | 18:42 |
| bleb | ioria: motd said there were 8 packages with uninstalled security updates | 18:43 |
| bleb | so i don't think unattended was doing its job | 18:43 |
| bleb | but yeah it could be running in the background even though i killed it | 18:44 |
| ioria | well, it's doing now | 18:44 |
| ioria | bleb, what's on /dev/sdb1 ? | 18:44 |
| bleb | ioria: an external hard drive i think | 18:45 |
| ioria | bleb, can be disconnected ? | 18:46 |
| bleb | no since im working remotely | 18:46 |
| ioria | bleb, dmesg | tail |nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:48 |
| bleb | ioria: https://termbin.com/v8li | 18:50 |
| ioria | bleb, ll /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober (you can paste here) | 18:53 |
| bleb | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12059 Feb 7 2019 /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober* | 18:53 |
| ioria | bleb, ll /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests | 18:54 |
| bleb | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2543 Mar 6 2017 /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests* | 18:55 |
| ioria | bleb, well, i don't have a safe solution. i'd kill dpkg and unattended (i'd also disable it) and then i'd run again --configure -a | 18:57 |
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| bleb | i dont see any process with the word "unattended" in it | 18:58 |
| bleb | so i think i killed it already | 18:58 |
| bleb | but how would i dislble it | 18:58 |
| ioria | in general, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades | 19:02 |
| bleb | ok | 19:03 |
| bleb | trying dpkg --configure -a again | 19:04 |
| bleb | stalling at the same place for a couple minutes now | 19:07 |
| sarnold | did you kill the previous processes? | 19:07 |
| bleb | i killed /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 56 --configure --pending | 19:09 |
| bleb | and /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-5.3.0-40-generic.postinst triggered linux-update-5.3.0-40-generic | 19:09 |
| sarnold | the one from february, too? | 19:09 |
| bleb | before rerunning | 19:09 |
| bleb | those were the only two processes with dpkg in the name | 19:09 |
| sarnold | bleb: kill 16997 17301 17407 17424 17425 17426 22649 23423 23427 23428 23582 23583 23587 23588 23429 23430 31609 32385 32389 32390 32545 32546 32550 32551 5559 6334 6338 6339 6493 6494 6498 6499 6595 6596 6597 11926 12701 12705 12706 12860 12861 12865 12866 12707 12708 13035 | 19:10 |
| bleb | oh yeah | 19:10 |
| bleb | i did that earlier | 19:10 |
| sarnold | it's all the processes associated with previous os-prober runs that I figured weren';t playing nicely | 19:10 |
| bleb | ok canceling the dpkg command | 19:11 |
| bleb | heres ps auxf again | 19:11 |
| bleb | https://termbin.com/ei4m | 19:11 |
| sarnold | dang | 19:13 |
| sarnold | bleb: alright, try this: kill -9 21185 21959 21963 21964 22118 22119 22123 22124 22442 22443 27673 28447 28451 28452 28606 28607 28611 28612 28453 28454 1847 2621 2625 2626 2781 2782 2786 2787 | 19:14 |
| bleb | ok | 19:15 |
| sumagna | hello | 19:16 |
| sumagna | i need some help | 19:16 |
| EriC^ | !ask | sumagna | 19:16 |
| ubottu | sumagna: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 19:16 |
| tomeaton17 | Hi, I am having problems with my virtualised ubuntu 19.10. As fractional scaling is not enabled by default (I don't really want to change this), whenever the virtual machine opens the window is not full screen so it defaults to 100% scaling. When I go full screen I can then change back to 200% scaling. Is there a way to avoid having to do this every time? | 19:16 |
| sumagna | my computer hangs just after i login | 19:16 |
| bleb | now running dpkg --configure -a | 19:16 |
| ubuntuUser94591 | Hey there. I just installed 19.10 and have trouble with my three monitor setup. Settings > display doesen't list my second dvi-monitor, but on color tab it is listed | 19:17 |
| sumagna | i can do Nothing4You | 19:17 |
| sumagna | i can do Nothing4You | 19:17 |
| sumagna | i can do Nothing | 19:17 |
| sumagna | sorry for spamming | 19:17 |
| sumagna | the computer hangs and i can do nothing | 19:18 |
| sumagna | i have started the irc throught tty session before login | 19:18 |
| sumagna | what should i do | 19:18 |
| sumagna | i have tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but nothing happened | 19:19 |
| sumagna | so any help is appreciable | 19:19 |
| lordcirth__ | sumagna, I would look in /var/log/Xorg.*.log | 19:20 |
| sumagna | what should i do? | 19:21 |
| lordcirth__ | sumagna, also, what Ubuntu version? | 19:21 |
| sumagna | ubuntu 19.10 | 19:21 |
| sumagna | btw i cant see any xorg log file in /var/log/ directory | 19:22 |
| lordcirth__ | Ah, right, 19.10 probably has wayland | 19:23 |
| sumagna | i think SolarAquarion | 19:23 |
| sumagna | i think so | 19:23 |
| sumagna | i am always pressing tab accidentally | 19:24 |
| sumagna | sorry for quitting | 19:25 |
| sumagna | now tell me | 19:25 |
| bleb | 10 minutes and dpkg --configure -a is stalled in the same place | 19:26 |
| bleb | i guess this shit is broken | 19:27 |
| sarnold | do you have multiple OSes on your machine? | 19:29 |
| sarnold | I think I purged os-prober on my own systems because I got sick and tired of waiting for it to run all the time | 19:29 |
| sumagna | please help me about it. i cant work because it hangs so much | 19:29 |
| sumagna | it hangs so much that nothing works | 19:29 |
| bleb | sarnold: no just ubuntu | 19:30 |
| sarnold | sumagna: start up another terminal, run vmstat 1 in it, what's it look like when the system is fine vs when it's hanging? | 19:30 |
| sumagna | ok wait | 19:30 |
| sarnold | bleb: you could try purging os-prober, kill all the processes related to it again, and then try the dpkg --configure -a again | 19:30 |
| sumagna | started it | 19:30 |
| bleb | you mean try the same thing again? | 19:30 |
| sumagna | now what | 19:31 |
| sarnold | bleb: yeah | 19:31 |
| bleb | oh but uninstall os-prober | 19:31 |
| sumagna | it is giving me a table of some data which i know nothing about | 19:32 |
| sarnold | sumagna: what's the swap column look like? | 19:32 |
| sarnold | sumagna: how about the so and si columns? | 19:32 |
| sumagna | swpd? | 19:32 |
| sumagna | si and so column is 0 | 19:33 |
| sarnold | yeah, sorry, I forgot the column name isn't just plain "swap" | 19:33 |
| sumagna | swpd is also 0 | 19:33 |
| sarnold | and has your system hung recently? | 19:33 |
| sumagna | it hangs always | 19:34 |
| sumagna | yup | 19:34 |
| sumagna | it started hanging today onwards | 19:34 |
| sarnold | then my guesses aren't it, hehe; go ahead and kill that vmstat :) | 19:34 |
| sumagna | done | 19:34 |
| sumagna | now what? | 19:35 |
| sumagna | EriC^: you helped me earlier | 19:35 |
| sumagna | can you help me this time also? | 19:35 |
| bleb | sarnold: after remove --purge'ing os-prober, and killing prober related processes, dpkg --configure -a runs quickly with no output | 19:35 |
| bleb | i assume this is a good thing | 19:35 |
| sarnold | bleb: it probably is :) | 19:36 |
| bleb | lets see if apt upgrade works | 19:36 |
| sarnold | bleb: apt install -f may also be useful, I can't recall which bits it fixes vs which bits dpkg --configure -a fixes | 19:36 |
| bleb | ok ill do that | 19:36 |
| sumagna | sarnold anything much you can help? | 19:39 |
| sarnold | sumagna: not really, the only hangs I've seen also included swap usage | 19:39 |
| sarnold | sumagna: I haven't heard of other hangs | 19:39 |
| sumagna | oh | 19:40 |
| sarnold | sumagna: if you're using gnome, try removing all the gnome-shell plugin things you're using, I've heard those aren't good for reliabilty | 19:40 |
| sumagna | how? | 19:40 |
| sarnold | heh, no idea :) | 19:41 |
| sumagna | please tell me somehow | 19:42 |
| sumagna | i cant find it on the net | 19:43 |
| sumagna | i have disabled them | 19:47 |
| bleb | sarnold: stuff seems to be working, thanks so much for your help! | 19:47 |
| sarnold | bleb: woot! that os-prober's annoying stuff, I wish I knew better if we actually *need* it for anything | 19:48 |
| sumagna | sarnold i have disabled them | 19:48 |
| sarnold | sumagna: cool, try restarting your session and see if that helps anything | 19:48 |
| sumagna | shutdown -r now? | 19:48 |
| sumagna | command? | 19:49 |
| sarnold | or logout and log in again | 19:49 |
| sumagna | shutdown -r now works? | 19:49 |
| sarnold | sure | 19:49 |
| sumagna | sarnold | 19:56 |
| sumagna | it didnt work | 19:56 |
| sumagna | it is still hanging | 19:56 |
| sarnold | dang | 19:57 |
| sumagna | now what? | 19:58 |
| sumagna | so how to stop ubuntu from hanging after logging in? | 20:02 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: did it used to work | 20:03 |
| sumagna | yes | 20:04 |
| EriC^ | did you try creating a fresh user and see if it does the same | 20:04 |
| sumagna | until yesterday | 20:04 |
| sumagna | how? | 20:04 |
| EriC^ | sudo adduser newuser | 20:04 |
| sumagna | wait | 20:04 |
| sumagna | done | 20:05 |
| sumagna | now what | 20:05 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: logout and try the new user | 20:06 |
| sumagna | through gdm or through tty session? | 20:06 |
| EriC^ | gdm | 20:06 |
| sumagna | wait | 20:06 |
| sumagna | its working | 20:07 |
| sumagna | not hanging at all | 20:08 |
| sumagna | but what to do with my actual user? | 20:08 |
| sumagna | i want it | 20:08 |
| tripelb | how do I see the chrome menu bar (file Edit...) in 18.04 I want to do find on page. -- it int there and there is no hambug menu to the far right of the line with the url text box | 20:08 |
| tripelb | 18.04 | 20:08 |
| sumagna | EriC^: its not hanging in the new user | 20:09 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: ok, must be a bad user config then | 20:10 |
| oerheks | tripelb, there is no menubar in chrome. | 20:10 |
| sumagna | what to do? | 20:10 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: try find looking at "~/.xsession-errors" for clues | 20:10 |
| oerheks | right side there are 3 dots, look there | 20:10 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: did you add anything to your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile yesterday? | 20:10 |
| sumagna | naah | 20:10 |
| sumagna | i dont think i did | 20:11 |
| sumagna | i never touched ~/.profile | 20:11 |
| sumagna | but i think i didnt add anything to ~/.bashrc | 20:11 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: try to sequentially rename ~/.config ~/.cache ~/.gconf , see if any help | 20:12 |
| sumagna | ? | 20:12 |
| EriC^ | try "mv ~/.config ~/.config.old" attempt to log in | 20:12 |
| sumagna | i didnt understand | 20:12 |
| stock | Hello folks! | 20:12 |
| sumagna | ok | 20:12 |
| EriC^ | no dice, then rename ~/.cache, etc | 20:12 |
| EriC^ | hello stock | 20:13 |
| sumagna | i have to hard reboot everytime it doesnt start | 20:13 |
| sumagna | so its gonna take some time | 20:13 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: can't you press ctrl+alt+f1? | 20:13 |
| sumagna | yes | 20:13 |
| tripelb | thanks oerheks I am still stupid. see my screen https://pasteboard.co/IZyDRDQ.png | 20:13 |
| EriC^ | to get a tty and then login and restart gdm? | 20:13 |
| EriC^ | systemctl restart gdm | 20:14 |
| sumagna | but after logging in, it freezes and the keyboard and mouse doesnt respond | 20:14 |
| sumagna | if it works then it is normal else the above mentioned thing occurs | 20:14 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: might try to rename them all then in one go | 20:14 |
| sumagna | ok | 20:14 |
| EriC^ | if you need to reboot use sysrq btw | 20:14 |
| EriC^ | !sysrq | 20:14 |
| ubottu | In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 20:14 |
| EriC^ | that way you dont cause any filesystem corruption | 20:15 |
| sumagna | ok | 20:15 |
| sumagna | EriC^: i started from my original user and it still has everything from the new user | 20:18 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: aren't your files in the home dir? | 20:18 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: deleting .config resets the desktop, so you'll have to reconfigure it the way you customized it | 20:19 |
| sumagna | yup | 20:19 |
| sumagna | i have to reconfigure? | 20:19 |
| EriC^ | yeah | 20:19 |
| sumagna | i want the previous reconfiguration | 20:20 |
| EriC^ | well it has some bug, it'll cause it to hang | 20:20 |
| sumagna | i backed up everything btw | 20:20 |
| sumagna | on another partition | 20:21 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: if you want to revert, do "rm .config" "mv .config.old .config" | 20:21 |
| sumagna | if it hangs? | 20:21 |
| EriC^ | i mean it's your decision, why dont you just reset the background and whatnot? | 20:22 |
| EriC^ | what's the big idea | 20:22 |
| sumagna | thats all that it contains? | 20:22 |
| sumagna | what are the configurations it contains? | 20:22 |
| sumagna | what are the configurations the .config folder contains? | 20:23 |
| sumagna | only the background? | 20:25 |
| EriC^ | no for other programs as well | 20:25 |
| sumagna | what does it contain actually?q | 20:26 |
| EriC^ | you could copy it back, and try renaming stuff one by one til you find the culprit, or maybe just copy the ones you're interested in | 20:26 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: type "ls .config.old" it should show you them | 20:26 |
| sumagna | ok | 20:26 |
| ubuntuUser94591 | is there a way to get help other than being called sumagna and spamming like no tomorrow? | 20:26 |
| sumagna | thanks | 20:26 |
| sumagna | ? | 20:26 |
| ubuntuUser94591 | I have a problem with ubuntu 19.10. Can't detect one of my monitor's (third) in gui or xrand, but it shows on color settings in gui. Any advice where to next? | 20:29 |
| Bashing-om | ubuntuUser94591: channel etiquette; if no response in 20 minutes, repeat your question to gain attention form those just joining. | 20:31 |
| Bashing-om | ubuntuUser94591: :D .. sorry I have no multi-monitor experience to offer. | 20:32 |
| sumagna | hello | 20:33 |
| EriC^ | ubuntuUser94591: same here, although i sometimes see people mentioning EDID and monitors not being detected properly | 20:34 |
| Lepeco | Hello Folks | 20:35 |
| sumagna | EriC^: do you know which folder contains the information about my favourites? | 20:36 |
| akem | Hi, how can i know what graphic driver my Xorg is currently using? | 20:36 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: i think ~/.cache | 20:37 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: or actually i think it's .config/google-chrome or so | 20:38 |
| sumagna | ok gonna see to it | 20:39 |
| sumagna | btw does the change happen immediately after i move from the old config folder to the new one? | 20:40 |
| EriC^ | sumagna: it depends | 20:40 |
| sumagna | depends? | 20:40 |
| EriC^ | i think if you close the browser completely and restart it might | 20:41 |
| sumagna | ok | 20:41 |
| clarkk | I am running Ubuntu 18.04 on a Dell Precision 7510 laptop. It was working perfectly for about 2 years, but in the last week the number keypad has stopped working except for on the login screen, and sometimes the trackpad stops responding (I can move the cursor around, but nothing reacts to it) | 20:42 |
| clarkk | I have installed the standard updates and a bios/firmware update (automatically delivered by ubuntu) | 20:44 |
| clarkk | can anyone suggest anything I can do to resolve it? | 20:44 |
| sumagna | and also there is a user-dirs.dirs file and user-dirs.locale file | 20:44 |
| sumagna | what are they? | 20:44 |
| nightowl_10757 | I am using bluetooth headset on 18.04, the audio is always skipping/missing/crackling in certain intervals inbetween. How can this be fixed? | 20:47 |
| sumagna | i cant remember what one of my favourite apps were so how can i restore it? | 20:48 |
| Bashing-om | clarkk: A thought: ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-all ' show fully installed ? | 20:48 |
| sumagna | found it | 20:49 |
| XsiSec | Hi folks I have a newbie question I have installed hddtemp, I have grant fully access to the program for my cureent user '-rwxrwxrwx 1 xsisec xsisec 40328 Jan 21 2018 /usr/sbin/hddtemp' though when I using the command in for instance in conky it says N/A, so basically conky havent the priveleges to the program how can I solve this? | 20:50 |
| sumagna | EriC^: how do i remove the new user i had made? | 20:50 |
| kur1j | if I add a NFS mount to my /etc/fstab and the NFS server doens't respond...will it cause the nfs server to not mount? | 21:18 |
| kur1j | errr machine to not bood? | 21:18 |
| kur1j | boot* | 21:18 |
| ubuntuUser94591 | is x11 capable of handling over 2 monitors? | 21:20 |
| ubuntuUser94591 | since wayland refuses to start out of the box | 21:21 |
| Ben64 | ubuntuUser94591: xorg, yes | 21:23 |
| Chucara | Hi. I'm having some problems setting a new DNS on a fresh install of Ubuntu server 18.08 LTS. What is the preferred approach. I tried netplan, but it seems that my configuration gets overwritten after a short while | 21:30 |
| Chucara | (Setting up the DNS settings on the network interface, not a server) | 21:30 |
| jeremy31 | Chucara: Network Manager, IPv4 manual settings | 21:31 |
| Chucara | jeremy31: Ah sorry, it's a headless server. | 21:32 |
| Bashing-om | Chucara: confirm the renderer: ' cat /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml ' . | 21:36 |
| Chucara | Bashing-om: There were no files in /etc/netplan initially, so I created my own with networkd as renderer | 21:37 |
| Bashing-om | Chucara: I am not the best versed here but did you run sudo netplan apply so the back-end configuration files are populated ? | 21:39 |
| Chucara | Bashing-om: Yes. My DNS changes for less than a minute, then reverts back again. | 21:39 |
| Chucara | Though, I'm not sure why the server doesn't get the DNS from DHCP. | 21:40 |
| Chucara | I've found 3 different articles with 3 different solutions online, and figured that I must be missing something simple. | 21:40 |
| Aleric | Bah - recovery mode is broken! I couldn't login into my PC for hours :/ | 21:41 |
| Aleric | It seems to "work", but I don't see the menu. As if it is displaying that on a monitor I don't have. | 21:41 |
| Aleric | Isn't there a way to get a prompt on the same monitory that shows grub and the following boot up messages? | 21:42 |
| Aleric | monitor* | 21:42 |
| sarnold | Aleric: at the grub menu, edit the kernel command line and add "single" or "init=/bin/bash" or "init=/usr/bin/bash" | 21:49 |
| Aleric | sarnold: I tried all those - single did the same thing: I did not get a prompt - the boot messages just stop where I SHOULD get a prompt and then the monitor image doesn't change anymore. | 21:50 |
| Aleric | Using the init= line gave me a kernel panic "trying to kill init" and froze. | 21:50 |
| sarnold | ew | 21:50 |
| Aleric | The problem was that I couldn't log into GUI anymore because I had turned that off; I needed recovery to turn it on again :/ | 21:51 |
| Aleric | Eventually I got far enough so sshd was running, then I could login remotely and turn GUI on again. But I STILL can't boot into recovery. | 21:52 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| Perfec7 | i am trying to delete var/www/html/index.html but it doesnt let me do it, why? | 22:12 |
| Mathisen | permisions most likely | 22:12 |
| tripelb | oerheks, after reboot I did get the 3 dots on the far right in chrome. (I have no understanding) I had to reboot because the nonworking youtube window told me to. FYI | 22:12 |
| Mathisen | Perfec7, sudo rm var/www/html/index.html | 22:12 |
| === bindiboi is now known as bindi | ||
| Perfec7 | Mathisen, rm: cannot remove 'var/www/html/index.html': No such file or directory | 22:14 |
| sarnold | be sure to use the path that you actually want to delete | 22:15 |
| Mathisen | indeed | 22:16 |
| Bashing-om | Perfec7: I would expect var/ to be under 'root' .. what shows / ls -al /var/www/html/ ' ? | 22:16 |
| Perfec7 | Bashing-om, you're right. worked | 22:17 |
| Perfec7 | thanks | 22:17 |
| Perfec7 | how can i define me as root all the time? | 22:18 |
| Mathisen | that is bad habbit | 22:18 |
| Mathisen | just use sudo when you acutal need to | 22:18 |
| Perfec7 | hum | 22:18 |
| Perfec7 | all right | 22:18 |
| Perfec7 | thanks | 22:19 |
| Bashing-om | Perfec7: "root all the time" is not in the ubuntu design :D | 22:19 |
| oerheks | sudo -i # for the whole terminal session | 22:19 |
| oerheks | that would be valid. | 22:19 |
| Perfec7 | the problem is that i am using an editor to save the .html and it keep saying "permission denied" | 22:21 |
| oerheks | oh oke, standard procedure, if you want easy access to your webserver, add your user to the www-data group | 22:22 |
| Bashing-om | Perfec7: open your editor in admin mode :D | 22:22 |
| oerheks | sudo useradd -g www-data <username> | 22:23 |
| oerheks | logout/login and voila | 22:23 |
| fd2 | hi all. i have problem to save nvidia configs. i have monitor 144hz, and after reboot nvidia set 60. i have xorg.conf in /etc/x11. i tried a lot advice from internet. no one work. i create xorg file in others dirs, create xorg.conf.d folder, 20-nvidia.conf file, nothing help | 22:28 |
| fd2 | pls, help me | 22:28 |
| === abirkill- is now known as abirkill | ||
| Perfec7 | Bashing-om, oerheks thanks | 22:30 |
| fd2 | in Xorg.0.log in the end i have 'systemd-logind: got pause for 13:67' | 22:31 |
| oerheks | sudo nvidia-settings', click on the X Server Display Configuration tab and select your resolution and refresh rate ?? | 22:31 |
| Aleric | You can (should?) run nvidia-settings as non-root. | 22:32 |
| oerheks | should not be a problem, it keeps the settings systemwide | 22:33 |
| oerheks | other solution; xrandr --output <connectionport found with 'xrandr'> --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144.00 ## example xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144.00 | 22:34 |
| Aleric | nvidia-settings does not let me change the refresh rate. It's just 59.9 Hz. | 22:38 |
| Aleric | However, I don't think that is a problem. | 22:38 |
| Aleric | It's perfectly normal for an LCD screen with a desktop on it ;). | 22:38 |
| Aleric | fd2: So, what is the output of just 'xrandr' give you? Does it list a mode with a refresh rate of 144? | 22:40 |
| fd2 | Aleric, yes, it gives. and, also, if i set 144 in 'Nvidia X server settings' or 'Displays' - all work fine. there no problem. problem is - options doesnt save! | 22:42 |
| Aleric | Ok I see. Well, after setting it and it works you should somehow be able to get the 'modeline' that is being used at that moment (probably with xrandr). Then you have to manually add that line to xorg.conf | 22:43 |
| fd2 | oerheks, i set 144 and all fine, but after reboot pc - 60 again. and, also, i want to set '{ForceCompositionPipeline=On, ForceFullCompositionPipeline=On}' to off tiring. but for some reason my xorg.conf file don't work | 22:44 |
| fd2 | sorry for the slow responses. tight with English | 22:45 |
| fd2 | oerheks, i made it 'xrandr --output DP-0 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144.00' and set to 144 | 22:47 |
| oerheks | does that survive reboot? | 22:47 |
| fd2 | i see one solution - create script with commands and make it autorun. but i don't know how to set off tirring (how to set '{ForceCompositionPipeline=On, ForceFullCompositionPipeline=On}') | 22:48 |
| fd2 | i am going to figure out | 22:49 |
| Aleric | Can't you set THAT in nvidia-settings? | 22:49 |
| Aleric | I think you can | 22:49 |
| Aleric | He left? | 22:50 |
| fd2 | it doesn't save | 22:50 |
| Aleric | Oh you're still here :) | 22:50 |
| Aleric | What do these lines say in your xorg.conf? | 22:50 |
| Aleric | HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 | 22:50 |
| Aleric | VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 | 22:50 |
| Aleric | in Monitor Section | 22:51 |
| fd2 | and, i catch one thing - when pc reboot there are several black screens, like video setting set/reset | 22:51 |
| fd2 | Aleric, ' HorizSync 30.0 - 160.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 144.0' | 22:52 |
| fd2 | oerheks, it doesn't save | 22:52 |
| Aleric | Are you sure xrandr shows 144 refresh for the resolution that you are using? | 22:54 |
| fd2 | do you need xorg logs ? | 22:54 |
| Aleric | It would show 144 for a low resolution of course. | 22:54 |
| fd2 | Aleric, yes, i am sure | 22:54 |
| Aleric | ok | 22:54 |
| fd2 | it's gaming monitor, benq xl2411p | 22:54 |
| fd2 | '1920x1080 60.00*+ 144.00 119.98 99.93 59.94 50.00 23.98' | 22:55 |
| Aleric | Oh, I have BenQ BL2411 | 22:55 |
| fd2 | lol ) | 22:55 |
| Aleric | It's using just the first one I guess. | 22:55 |
| fd2 | destiny make us together ) | 22:55 |
| Aleric | I don't think mine can do 144 | 22:56 |
| fd2 | makes* correct? | 22:56 |
| fd2 | but your monitor bigger (1200vs1080) | 22:56 |
| fd2 | better for work | 22:56 |
| fd2 | and IPS when mine is TN | 22:57 |
| fd2 | when i came here for help - i was given a command that download on some website my files by run command | 22:58 |
| fd2 | but i didn't save that command ( | 22:58 |
| tripelb | can I set my 18,04 computer (HP Probook) so I can close the lid and let it continue functioning - not shut off or hibernate. | 23:01 |
| sarnold | tripelb: check HandleLidSwitchExternalPower= in logind.conf(5) manpage | 23:02 |
| fd2 | yes | 23:02 |
| fd2 | tripelb, you should setup 'gnome-tweaks' | 23:03 |
| fd2 | 'sudo apt install gnome-tweaks', then run it by 'gnome-tweaks', and in it 'Power' | 23:03 |
| fd2 | guys ? | 23:12 |
| fd2 | in any case i want to thanks for your help | 23:12 |
| sarnold | yes? | 23:12 |
| fd2 | sarnold, i aksed about my problem with saving video options | 23:13 |
| Aleric | GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT_UUID='f2103d9f-153a-4b18-986e-683942d2afec' | 23:14 |
| Aleric | GRUB_DEVICE_UUID='bf8a42af-8764-4759-b9f8-df5d444abbc0' | 23:14 |
| Aleric | I wonder which is which? :/ | 23:14 |
| sarnold | fd2: ah; I don't know much about nvidia stuff | 23:14 |
| sarnold | fd2: I used the autorandr tool to automate some xrandr configuration setting though | 23:15 |
| sarnold | Aleric: lsblk -f may help? | 23:15 |
| Aleric | I have stuff like: | 23:16 |
| Aleric | linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic root=UUID=f2103d9f-153a-4b18-986e-683942d2afec ro ... | 23:16 |
| Aleric | So that should be my root partition... but from the name I'd have guessed it is the /boot partition. Bad name if you ask me. | 23:17 |
| Aleric | ─sda3 ext4 f2103d9f-153a-4b18-986e-683942d2afec /boot | 23:18 |
| Aleric | hmm | 23:18 |
| Aleric | ─sda5 ext4 bf8a42af-8764-4759-b9f8-df5d444abbc0 / | 23:18 |
| Aleric | So, not a bad name.. but why on earth does grub only pass the UUID of /boot as 'root' ?? | 23:18 |
| Aleric | sarnold: Should you pass the UUID of '/' as kernel parameter? | 23:20 |
| Aleric | Shouldn't* | 23:20 |
| sarnold | Aleric: I don't know :( my world exists after init is starting services | 23:21 |
| fd2 | sarnold, i have installed autorandr, does it have GUI ? | 23:21 |
| sarnold | fd2: no | 23:22 |
| Aleric | OMG it's a bug! | 23:22 |
| Aleric | When I run 'sudo update-grub' from / it uses the other one!!! | 23:22 |
| fd2 | sarnold, how to use it? do you have some link with information ? | 23:24 |
| sarnold | Aleric: please file a bug on that :) | 23:25 |
| sarnold | fd2: https://github.com/phillipberndt/autorandr#how-to-use | 23:26 |
| fd2 | sarnold, how i understood autorandr is not i need | 23:26 |
| fd2 | sarnold, thanks | 23:27 |
| Aleric | argh, I can't find out how to report this bug | 23:27 |
| sarnold | Aleric: try ubuntu-bug grub-common | 23:27 |
| Aleric | I did - it drops me on the home page of lauchpad and there is no 'report new bug' button there anywhere. | 23:28 |
| sarnold | o_O | 23:29 |
| halvors | Hi. After my screens go to sleep the configuration of multi monitor setup is lost, anyone knows why? | 23:31 |
| halvors | I mean if i turn of both screens. | 23:31 |
| Aleric | oh I had to first log out (I was already logged in on lauchpad) | 23:31 |
| Aleric | another bug thus | 23:31 |
| sarnold | Aleric: that's even stranger :) I never log out of launchpad and file bug reports with that hting all the time :/ | 23:34 |
| === Birrosso is now known as Birosso | ||
| Aleric | And now I can't reproduce it :/ | 23:37 |
| Aleric | I just pasted it here right | 23:38 |
| Aleric | <Aleric> linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic root=UUID=f2103d9f-153a-4b18-986e-683942d2afec ro ... | 23:38 |
| Aleric | now I can't get that f210... back :/ | 23:39 |
| Aleric | I don't know, I must have been mistaken. | 23:43 |
| fd2 | why some progs dont updated in 'ubuntu software' ? for example WINE | 23:56 |
| oerheks | we consider our wine version as stable. | 23:57 |
| oerheks | and it gets updates, bugfixes. | 23:57 |
| leftyfb | !latest | fd2 | 23:57 |
| ubottu | fd2: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 23:57 |
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