| Eickmeyer[m] | Oof... I think hexter might be dead upstream. | 16:52 |
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| OvenWerk1 | not dead... just not well maintained | 17:09 |
| OvenWerk1 | I think the ladspa part is probably ok... not sure about the GUI | 17:11 |
| OvenWerk1 | works in 18.04 though | 17:12 |
| OvenWerk1 | on the other hand, I think we do ship dexed | 17:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | Carla doesn't seem to realize I have any dssi plugins anyway | 17:18 |
| OvenWerk1 | qtractor says we have fluidSynth (we have that anyway), Hexter, Whysynth, and Xsynth | 17:22 |
| OvenWerk1 | The last two are the same so far as I know (forks of each other) | 17:22 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | The GUI is toast on Fedora. I might have to retire it from Fedora (I just became the maintainer there). I'm thinking replacing hexter with dexed might be in order. | 17:23 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I'm filing a "life check" issue with hexter on github. | 17:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | No commits for two years to the day tomorrow. | 17:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Carla might just needed to be pointed to the right path. | 17:25 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | *need to be | 17:25 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | My native language doesn't work before I've completed my second cup of coffee. | 17:26 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | We don't ship dexed. There is no package, not even in Debian. | 17:27 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Would definitely be worth packaging though. | 17:28 |
| * OvenWerk1 wonders how come he has it then | 17:28 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Unless you compiled it yourself... | 17:31 |
| OvenWerk1 | Ah, I seem to have downloaded it from somewhere | 17:31 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I just did a package search, and we don't have it. | 17:31 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Maybe Filipe has it in his repos? | 17:31 |
| OvenWerk1 | no need, LV2s don't really need a package | 17:31 |
| OvenWerk1 | (well they do to include in a distro) | 17:32 |
| OvenWerk1 | but because they should not system libs and the xorg lib API is static they should run on any system | 17:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, he doesn't have it. Just checked. | 17:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, I guess I'll get to work on that. | 17:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I honestly doubt I'll hear back from smbolton (hexter). | 17:33 |
| OvenWerk1 | he has asnwered email in the past | 17:33 |
| OvenWerk1 | but he has generally said he no longer wishes to work on it. | 17:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Looks like he is local to me. | 17:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, if he doesn't wish to work on it, then I guess I'll retire it in Fedora and we'll remove it from the seed starting next cycle, replacing it with dexed. | 17:36 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It's suffering from some severe bitrot with the GUI not functioning. | 17:37 |
| OvenWerk1 | dssi is dead basically. Ardour doesn't load them though qtractor does. But out of the four plugins only the two work | 17:37 |
| OvenWerk1 | qtractor does load lv2s | 17:37 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yep. Might be worth removing dssi plugins from the seed altogether going forward then. | 17:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Bitrot is a thing. | 17:38 |
| OvenWerk1 | That may mean removing q-synth | 17:40 |
| OvenWerk1 | hmm maybe not | 17:42 |
| OvenWerk1 | It seems fluidsynth-dssi is a dssi wrapper around fluidsynth it self | 17:42 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Interesting. | 17:44 |
| OvenWerk1 | BTW I am not sure how up to date dexed is either | 17:45 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Last commit = Feb 6, 2020. | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | So, at least it's active. | 17:46 |
| OvenWerk1 | good | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Last release was 2 years ago tomorrow. hehe | 17:47 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | However, it's VST and actively developed. | 17:48 |
| OvenWerk1 | do we have dragonfly? | 17:50 |
| OvenWerk1 | https://github.com/michaelwillis/dragonfly-reverb/ | 17:51 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Doesn't look like it. | 17:51 |
| OvenWerk1 | I know that one is actively developed | 17:51 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, it is. It's not in Debian, Ubuntu, or Fedora. Arch and Manjaro have it. | 17:52 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Looks easy enough to package. | 17:54 |
| OvenWerk1 | we should export an LV2 path | 18:02 |
| OvenWerk1 | default LV2_PATH is $HOME/.lv2:/usr/local/lib/lv2:/usr/lib/lv2 | 18:04 |
| OvenWerk1 | but it should also include: /usr/lib/ardour5/LV2, and the /opt/*/lib/LV2 | 18:08 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Agreed. We need something in default-settings with our paths. | 18:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | I don't know if * works in a path :) | 18:10 |
| OvenWerk1 | but we could create a file at boot that did that | 18:11 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | ^ That's what I mean, that or at login. | 18:11 |
| OvenWerk1 | right | 18:11 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | The .session file could handle it. | 18:11 |
| OvenWerk1 | wouldn't that be in /etc/skel though? | 18:13 |
| OvenWerk1 | maybe something in /etc/X11/ | 18:13 |
| OvenWerk1 | I think if we added afile to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ that would work | 18:15 |
| OvenWerk1 | unless we wanted to add a plugin path setting to -controls... | 18:16 |
| OvenWerk1 | I personally don't think we should do that though | 18:20 |
| OvenWerk1 | I think the place for it might be /etc/X11/Xsession.d/56ubuntustudio-session because we already add that | 18:24 |
| OvenWerk1 | We could even do it outside the "if" statement | 18:25 |
| OvenWerk1 | except I guess we don't install that file except with xfce | 18:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | so it would not work for studio on top of flavour | 18:26 |
| OvenWerk1 | best to just call it 50set-lv2-path | 18:28 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Nah, /etc/skel is dead. | 18:46 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | What I was thinking was using 56ubuntustudio-session for that. | 18:47 |
| OvenWerk1 | Except it won't work for studio over flavour | 18:47 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Well, if we want to make it DE-agnostic, then we should do something like 50set-audio-plugin-paths since there's more paths to be set than LV2. | 18:48 |
| OvenWerk1 | sure | 18:48 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Would that be appropriate to add to -controls? | 18:49 |
| OvenWerk1 | no | 18:49 |
| OvenWerk1 | not in my opinion | 18:49 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Didn't think so. Probably -performance-tweaks then (subpackage of -default-settings). | 18:50 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Probably needs a rename though. | 18:50 |
| OvenWerk1 | What I want to cover are packages like Mixbus that include plugins the user paid for and may want to use with something other than just Mixbus | 18:51 |
| OvenWerk1 | So they should just show up in carla or Ardour or qtractor | 18:51 |
| * OvenWerk1 is off to the bank | 18:52 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yep. | 18:52 |
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