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| nova | brainwash: I'm trying your suggestion of using a profile (for my display issue). I had already saved a profile but I also had disabled monitor detection on that same dialog, which also disabled automatic profile loading. I had hoped that just disabling detection would work. | 02:49 |
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| max12345 | hey all, my laptop locks my screen after some time | 04:33 |
| max12345 | I don't want that, I have screensaver off, the power management set to do nothing when plugged in, yet it still happens. what do? | 04:34 |
| Hamilton | Should I install xubuntu or ubuntu+xfce? I plan to use i3wm. I want a usual dev environment for embedded, node, ...I want the least heacdache setup | 08:44 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: I would go with Xubuntu. It has all the stuff you need to get going, and doesn't suck like the other option you mentioned. | 08:58 |
| Hamilton | Fernando-Basso[m, I have a few apps that may be dependent on gtk3...I mean I just can install it on xubuntu, yeah? | 08:59 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: Unless you want to go a little more hardcore. If you are not going to use Xfce, then you could try Arch Linux instead, install the minimal command line system, and go from there. | 08:59 |
| Hamilton | Fernando-Basso[m, no I don't want to mess with too many things... | 09:00 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: I have been using Arch Linux for about 10 years. Used with Openbox, then later ended up with Xfce. Not sure how are the ubuntu packages for i3wm. But I would bet you would face no major problems. | 09:00 |
| Hamilton | About xubuntu, since Ubuntu is more popular, deos it mean that setup process, boot stuff and other headachy stuff is better handled in Ubuntu? | 09:01 |
| brainwash | Hamilton: it's exactly the same | 09:01 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | I don't think so. The installation stuff is the same. | 09:01 |
| Hamilton | good | 09:01 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Anyway, Xubuntu is the distro I most recommend this days. | 09:02 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Xfce itself is very configurable. | 09:02 |
| Hamilton | I have ubuntu+xfce on another machine. It is perfect. I even mapped arrow keys to snap the windows left and right but it would not be similar to i3wm... | 09:03 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Cool. Just go with i3wm then. I myself used Xmonad for about 6 months years ago. | 09:04 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | But I eventually ended up preferring the simpler and more traditional stuff, therefore, Xfce. | 09:04 |
| Hamilton | Fernando-Basso[m, why you returned from tilings? I don't have experience with tilings but all kool kidz these days rock i3, dwm,... | 09:05 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | For me, it is simple, but very configurable, and it has several plugins I find useful. | 09:05 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: I don't know exactly. I think I lost too much time with Haskell attempting config stuff in Xmonad, and and ended up just preferring the (subjectively) easier life of a traditional desktop, with a panel, a tray, and the likes. | 09:06 |
| Hamilton | I briefly tested Xubuntu 18 on a flash...the scaling seemed a bit off...there is a option to fix it right? | 09:07 |
| brainwash | Hamilton the cool kids already moved on to wayland based wms | 09:07 |
| Hamilton | Screen is FHD btw | 09:07 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: I have used vim for about 12 years. It is amazing, but sometimes it is so much easier to just grab the mouse and click here and there. I guess I felt something similar with Xmonad. Cool, we can use only the keyboard (if we want) to deal with windows and panes, but I felt a little tired of it after some time. | 09:08 |
| brainwash | Xfce 4.14 has scaling (x2) | 09:08 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | I still use vim daily, but not as much as until about two years ago. | 09:08 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | brainwash: What is that? | 09:08 |
| brainwash | scaling? | 09:09 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Yeah, in the sense of Xfce. | 09:09 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | What does it do for the users? | 09:09 |
| brainwash | it scales windows to be bigger | 09:10 |
| brainwash | the whole window | 09:10 |
| brainwash | not only fonts | 09:10 |
| brainwash | "Go to Settings Manager > Appearance > Settings > Window Scaling and select 2 as the scaling factor." | 09:11 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Wow! Cool. I didn't seen anything becoming pixelated! | 09:13 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | s/seen/see/ | 09:13 |
| brainwash | not yet :P | 09:14 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | One thing I miss in Xfce is the ability to animate the cursor to call attention to something when I am teaching or explaining stuff. | 09:14 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Also, I love that thing people do on Mac that the part under discussion on the screen can be make bigger, like if they were using a magnifying glass. | 09:15 |
| brainwash | there is a little program (or command?) to find the mouse cursor on the screen | 09:15 |
| brainwash | to easily locate it | 09:15 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Don't know about then. | 09:15 |
| brainwash | xfwm4 has the zoom-in feature | 09:16 |
| brainwash | it zooms into the whole visible area | 09:16 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | yeah, but it zooms in the entire screen. | 09:16 |
| Hamilton | Fernando-Basso[m, Windows has 125% to 200% in steps of 25%. Xfce only has 200%? or can it be changed? | 09:16 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Hamilton: I'm not sure. I guess it has to do with the video driver, or something like that. | 09:17 |
| brainwash | Hamilton: it cannot do fractional scaling, but there is a "hack" | 09:17 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | brainwash is the person who knows the stuff around here :) | 09:17 |
| brainwash | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Xorg | 09:18 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | > there is a little program (or command?) to find the mouse cursor on the screen | 09:19 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Do you know the name if such program? | 09:20 |
| brainwash | /usr/bin/xfce4-find-cursor | 09:21 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | Cool! Already set it to a keyboard shortcut. Thanks brainwash ! | 09:23 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | There are magnifying glass options. xmag, kmag, gnome-mag, and others, it seems. | 09:26 |
| brainwash | right :D | 09:29 |
| Fernando-Basso[m | And none work :D | 09:35 |
| bodicceaII | I have an issue with printing a pdf (from atril). The document is 1 page, A4, and I would like to print 4xA6 this page on a single A4 page. In print menu, I changed "Page Setup"/"Pages per side" to 4. It did print only the top-left page. Well... I try to print 4 times the document, I got 4 A4 pages, with also only the top-left A6 document on each page. Any idea ? | 10:17 |
| bodicceaII | An alternative would be able to print page 4 times, if I could select the A6 destination part on the A4 page, but I did not see such option. | 10:19 |
| bodicceaII | Well, I copied the text in libreoffice, and duplicated it 4 times, something is missing, having to go the hard way :( | 13:26 |
| xubuntu68w | hi! I have recently switched to Xubuntu 19.10 (from 18.04). I noticed that, usually once per day, while typing on moving the mouse I abruptly get logged out from my X session and return to the user login screen. Does that ring a bell for a potential problem? I don't see something in `dmesg` There is activity in syslog but I am not sure if this is | 15:23 |
| xubuntu68w | before the problem or after I login again https://gist.github.com/vkatsikaros/671e088e92a3a53e3a5e6d08e7ed925a | 15:23 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, it might indicate a session crash. | 15:25 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_ thanks! is there a way to collect more information to find out what happened? It seems to be happening once per day, almost every day | 15:26 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, look in xorg logs and .xsession-errors. | 15:27 |
| xubuntu68w | I see a .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old The .old was last accessed when the crash occurred the latest lines are in https://gist.github.com/vkatsikaros/671e088e92a3a53e3a5e6d08e7ed925a#file-xsession-errors-old | 15:35 |
| xubuntu68w | stupid question, where can I find the xorg logs? | 15:35 |
| diogenes_ | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 15:38 |
| xubuntu68w | ah thanks! followup stupid question. I see the timestamps? are from [ 19823.845] to [ 19832.881] in the Xorg.0.log. What is the format of these timestamps and can I convert them to GMT or local time? | 15:40 |
| gnrp | xubuntu68w: That's the time in seconds after boot | 15:41 |
| gnrp | in /var/log/kern.log you will find both times at once (maybe there is a better way though) | 15:43 |
| xubuntu68w | ah ok thanks! | 15:43 |
| xubuntu68w | In case you notice something interesting, I see this in the Xorg log https://gist.github.com/vkatsikaros/671e088e92a3a53e3a5e6d08e7ed925a#file-xorg-0-log Again I am unsure if this is after or before the session crashed | 15:44 |
| xubuntu68w | I also added the last lines from the old Xorg log https://gist.github.com/vkatsikaros/671e088e92a3a53e3a5e6d08e7ed925a#file-xorg-0-log-old but they seem to go only 40 seconds after boot | 15:46 |
| brainwash | xubuntu68w: could it be caused by firefox? | 16:16 |
| xubuntu68w | brainwash I use browsers a lot :P firefox more than chrome/chromium but all are usually open at the same time. How could I verify/test that? | 16:25 |
| brainwash | xubuntu68w: maybe there is a crash dump in /var/crash | 16:35 |
| xubuntu68w | brainwash: hm nothing from today in /var/crash | 16:37 |
| brainwash | any crash dump for Xorg though? | 16:38 |
| brainwash | not sure if it will save duplicates | 16:39 |
| brainwash | for every crash | 16:39 |
| brainwash | a general tip would be to monitor RAM usage I guess | 16:39 |
| brainwash | no free RAM may end in a crash of the graphical session | 16:40 |
| brainwash | and you mentioned having two RAM eating web browsers running at the same time | 16:40 |
| xubuntu68w | brainwash: no crashes at all captured today in /var/crash TBH I don't track performance (mem, cpu etc) on my laptop/maybe this is a good excuse to add something | 16:48 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, what GPU? | 16:49 |
| xubuntu68w | I ran into Xfwm 4.14 Compositor issue (thanks again for the help there!!) Is this `inxi` information helpful https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=57109#p57109 ? | 16:52 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, run: inxi -G | nc termbin.com 9999 | 16:55 |
| diogenes_ | share the link. | 16:56 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: https://termbin.com/acyk | 16:58 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, and now run: apt list --installed | grep intel | 17:01 |
| diogenes_ | and | 17:01 |
| diogenes_ | !pastebin | 17:01 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:01 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: https://pastebin.com/9CjXfMM1 | 17:04 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, run: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ what do you get? if it's less than 3 lines you can just copy/paste here without pastebin. | 17:08 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: dir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d doesn't exist (/etc/X11/ obviously does) | 17:09 |
| diogenes_ | now: sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d | 17:10 |
| xubuntu68w | done! | 17:11 |
| diogenes_ | now run the following command as ahole: http://dpaste.com/09RXYVE | 17:11 |
| diogenes_ | whole* | 17:12 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: done, file created | 17:13 |
| diogenes_ | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:13 |
| diogenes_ | share | 17:13 |
| xubuntu68w | https://termbin.com/isjr | 17:13 |
| diogenes_ | now after reboot notice if crashes still happen but keep in mind if you get a black screen or can't login then you do the following: | 17:15 |
| diogenes_ | ctrl+alt+f4 | 17:16 |
| diogenes_ | login | 17:16 |
| diogenes_ | sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf | 17:16 |
| diogenes_ | startxfce4 | 17:16 |
| diogenes_ | done | 17:16 |
| diogenes_ | if crashes still happen then change Option "AccelMethod" "sna" to Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" | 17:18 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: will check for the next reboot and the following days, thanks! | 17:20 |
| diogenes_ | ok and come with a feedback. | 17:20 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: the ctrl+alt+f4 will switch to a tty, right? out of curiosity is there a reason for the number 4? | 17:23 |
| letho4 | j'ai besoin d'aide qui peut m'aider à débloquer une imprimante ? | 17:23 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, not a big difference just different distros assign different TTYs for graphical desktop, some assign it to TTY2 some to TTY7. | 17:26 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: thanks | 17:26 |
| diogenes_ | no problem. | 17:26 |
| xubuntu68w | diogenes_: survived reboot and login (tested with and without my 2nd screen turned on) so I'll now look out for further crashes | 17:33 |
| xubuntu68w | weirdly my wallpaper settings got lost - anyhow just mentioning not a problem | 17:34 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu68w, ok, also as brainwash mentioned, to rule out some browser related issues, try one browser at a time. | 17:35 |
| bleb | dpkg --configure -a is stalling | 18:17 |
| bleb | it's been stuck there for about 10 minutes | 18:17 |
| bleb | should i wait longer? or is there something i can try? | 18:18 |
| xubuntu9w | Hello | 21:16 |
| xubuntu9w | I'm trying to set up a scanner to scan an image but no software can detect it | 21:17 |
| xubuntu9w | it's an Epson ET-4750 | 21:17 |
| xubuntu61w | Hello everyone. :) I'm looking for a distribution where RDP from a Win10 machine works, after installing XRDP. I have not been able to get RDP woking after trying 3 distributions. Have spent lots of time to find the issue. | 21:27 |
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