[03:05] <nt0> is there any way to use a menu that's closer to gnome's classic menu of yesteryear in 20.04?  i websearched and found a tool called "gno-menu" but this doesn't appear to be in the repos any longer.
[05:15] <mason> nt0: You could look at Mate and actually have old Gnome.
[05:15] <mason> nt0: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/daily-live/current/HEADER.html for instance
[05:17] <nt0> mason: thanks m8.  i've already created a vanilla ubuntu VM that i'm tinkering around in, so don't think i'll rebuild just for that.  could always install mate alongside gnome/unity i suppose.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> good morning
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[10:05] <ttamm> I'm on 20.04 using radeon driver and I have no mouse cursor on login screen or wayland session
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: you said it works fine on ubuntu(xorg) session, how did you login in xorg without your mouse?
[10:08] <ttamm> with my keyboard tabbing over the session icon, the mouse does work but it's hard to do it blindly
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: is your graphics card a hybrid intel/nvidia ?
[10:17] <ttamm> lotuspsychje: no they're both amd
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: your driver is loaded correctly? check sudo lshw -C video ?
[10:22] <ttamm> It think so? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kGhC575tVx/
[10:22] <ttamm> I*
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: you use 2 cards in 1 system?
[10:23] <ttamm> lotuspsychje: It's a laptop with integrated and dedicated gpu
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> i see..
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: can you pastebin your dmesg plz?
[10:27] <ttamm> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MHYYp7pNtk/
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: your bios is from 2011 you might wanna take a look their website to update that
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: your card indeed is switchable: vga_switcheroo: detected switching method \_SB_.PCI0.VGA_.ATPX handle
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> but im not sure of the right procedure of that, there is a switcheroo package in our repos you could try
[10:33] <ttamm> It does give me an option for launching apps using dedicated gpu on right click
[10:50] <ttamm> lotuspsychje: looks like switcheroo-control is installed by default, should I try removing it?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> ttamm: no, think you need that to specify wich card you need to use
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[15:55] <lotuspsychje> if anyone tests a recent daily, check also this bug please Bug #1867909
[15:55] <ubottu> bug 1867909 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymoth spinner can not show the messages after installation. " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867909