[15:01] <Hamilton> I just installed xubuntu 18.04. How to migrate to latest xfce 4.14?
[15:01] <Hamilton> Is it even advisable to do so?
[15:02] <Kumool> Hamilton: upgrade to 19
[15:03] <Kumool> I was about to but then I noticed 20.04 will be released in april
[15:03] <Kumool> so just wait a bit and you can get the latest xfce
[15:03] <Kumool> with some modicum of stability
[15:03] <Kumool> wtf does modicum even mean
[15:04] <Kumool> oh, guess I used it correctly
[15:05] <Hamilton> Kumool, Why thunar doesn't accept themes?
[15:06] <Kumool> thunar accepts themes
[15:07] <Hamilton> I copy pasted my xfce 4.04 setting from another laptop to this one and it went so smoothly
[15:08] <Hamilton> oh I meant it didn't went so smooth :(
[15:08] <Kumool> well, configuring xfce is not so difficult
[15:09] <Kumool> it'll take an hour
[15:09] <Kumool> just configure it normally
[15:10] <Hamilton> Kumool, Would the upgrade to 20.04 be headache-free?
[15:12] <Kumool> I have not upgraded since its not released yet, it will be in april, but ubuntu is relatively stable
[15:28] <Hamilton> https://github.com/EliverLara/Ant
[15:28] <Hamilton> If I manually download it to ./themes, would xfce recognize it?
[15:28] <Hamilton> Is this a good precedure?
[18:16] <Hamilton> http://i.imgur.com/XcdXb5G.png
[18:16] <Hamilton> Why is there 2 independent power managers in the taskbar?
[18:16] <Hamilton> Each of them has a feature that the other does not have
[18:18] <Hamilton> And why the icons are so small...I changed the DIP to 150, everything changes except these icons
[18:19] <Hamilton> Changing the size, increase *some* icons not all of them
[18:22] <diogenes_> Hamilton, you should have started with the beginning of the story about how you end up with a mess like that.
[18:23] <Hamilton> diogenes_, nice name btw...move along I want to see the sun
[18:23] <Hamilton> diogenes_, I just installed xubuntu 18.04
[18:24] <diogenes_> yes Alexander, and you preserved thd /home from the previous installation?
[18:25] <Hamilton> diogenes_, No its a clean install
[18:25] <Hamilton> dual boot with Win but that is not relevant oh Mighty Master of Stoics
[18:26] <diogenes_> Hamilton, but you did a lot of changes, that is not how default looks.
[18:28] <Hamilton> diogenes_, Yeah I did. The point is there is two battery icons (one from xfce4-powermanager and another from Power Manager plugin)..their features are mutually independent
[18:28] <diogenes_> go to settings > power manager and untick "System tray icon".
[18:29] <Hamilton> diogenes_, nice
[18:29] <Hamilton> diogenes_, Are you really stoic?
[18:29] <diogenes_> Hamilton, kinik.
[18:30] <Hamilton> diogenes_, You Turkish? Still could be Stoic though
[18:30] <Hamilton> Why bluetooth turns itself on on restart?
[18:32] <diogenes_> Hamilton, that's kind of a bug but with a simple autostart script it can be set to disable on login.
[18:32] <Hamilton> diogenes_, What about the tray iconssmall size
[18:34] <diogenes_> Hamilton, try increasing panel size.
[18:34] <Hamilton> diogenes_, some of the icons increase but most of them stay fixed
[18:36] <diogenes_> look in panel preferences > appearance, if that won't help, file a bug.
[18:36] <Hamilton> How can I increase the length of each window on panel?
[18:36] <Hamilton> Currently it doesn't show much of the window name
[18:38] <diogenes_> Hamilton, there used to be a hack for panel window buttons to increase the length but i can't remember it.
[18:46] <Hamilton> diogenes_, Thanks
[18:46] <diogenes_> no problem.
[18:46] <Hamilton> What font size do you guys use for thems, window themes and terminal?
[18:46] <Hamilton> Me: 12,11,12
[18:47] <diogenes_> 10, 10
[18:47] <Hamilton> Screen resolution?
[18:48] <diogenes_> 1020x1080
[18:48] <diogenes_> 1920*
[18:49] <Hamilton> so my eyesight is deteriorating
[18:51] <diogenes_> mine is not good too but i have zoom :)
[18:52] <Hamilton> :D
[19:21] <Hamilton> Scroll direction is not respected in Xfce4-terminal. How to change it?
[20:52] <Vulpo> Hello, I am stuck with having only a single workspace an I can't add any
[20:52] <Vulpo> trying to add some from the workspaces menu does nothing
[22:55] <Vulpo> didn't even notice I got disconnected
[22:56] <Unit193> You want xfwm4-workspace-settings, Vulpo.
[22:57] <Vulpo> https://imgur.com/a/ZP5MrKw
[22:57] <Vulpo> tried that
[22:57] <Vulpo> it says I raised it to 4 and then never actually adds more workspaces
[23:00] <Unit193> Well huh, interesting.  I have 2 set for me now, with scoll on the desktop turned on and the little pager in the panel.
[23:04] <Vulpo> Got it
[23:04] <Vulpo> it was because I turned on Compiz
[23:05] <Unit193> Ah, that does replace xfwm as compositor. :P
[23:06] <Vulpo> yeah lol
[23:08] <Vulpo> Though i'm still confused as to why Viewports do not work under compiz
[23:19] <Vulpo> wmctrl -d returns 1280x1024
[23:19] <Vulpo> which is my resolution
[23:19] <Vulpo> but considering I'm using compiz, it should not be
[23:19] <Vulpo> it should be 4x my resolution
[23:46] <Vulpo> I got it
[23:46] <Vulpo> forgot to actually add the viewports