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robert_ancellkenvandine, now I'm confused - what version is the snap-store branch supposed to be on?00:42
kenvandinerobert_ancell: snap-store branch is 3.34.x01:29
robert_ancellkenvandine, can you force push your branch to snap-store? I stuffed it up and rebased that one.01:29
kenvandineSure01:30
kenvandinethe goal is to stabilize what's on snap-store-3-36 and then push that to snap-store, but not until it doesn't crash :)01:31
kenvandinerobert_ancell: i force pushed the snap-stsore branch01:32
robert_ancellkenvandine, thanks. Should be all good now. snap-store-3-36 is rebased.01:33
kenvandinethanks01:34
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:52
dufluMorning oSoMoN06:59
oSoMoNhey duflu06:59
sa-ghostsany news on the Xorg crash in 20.04 ?07:14
duflusa-ghosts, please tell us the bug ID, or create one by running 'ubuntu-bug xorg'07:14
sa-ghostsit's already reported07:15
duflusa-ghosts, yes there are thousands of them, so which one do you mean?07:16
dufluAny more details?07:16
sa-ghostsyup, can't login to xorg session07:17
dufluAgain there are plenty of those07:17
sa-ghostsI have to use wayland (in VM)07:17
duflusa-ghosts, I think I can guess based on your comments so far. Let me see07:18
sa-ghostsgive me 5 min I will give you a link07:18
duflusa-ghosts, sounds like maybe bug 186464407:19
ubot5bug 1864644 in systemd (Ubuntu Focal) "I get logged out immediately after login to an X session (QXL Xorg driver on kernel 5.4)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186464407:19
dufluIf you would like updates for any bug you can subscribe to each one07:19
sa-ghostsbug 179643707:21
ubot5bug 1745345 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1796437 Xorg assert failure: Xorg: /usr/include/xorg/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion `key->initialized' failed." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174534507:21
didrocksgood morning07:25
duflusa-ghosts, looks like there's no news, and nobody working on it :(07:26
dufluMorning didrocks07:26
jibelmorning all07:27
dufluMorning jibel07:28
tjaaltonsa-ghosts: is this with vbox?07:33
didrockshey duflu, jibel07:34
duflusa-ghosts, meet the Ubuntu Xorg maintainer :)07:34
tjaaltonthough it sounds like the systemd fixes would be needed07:35
tjaaltonthe assert is just misleading07:35
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, jibel07:38
didrocksoSoMoN: salut. ça va ?07:40
duflutjaalton, the original bug isn't a VM though. You're saying most cases of it would be?07:42
dufluAh yes. Three of the duplicates are VMs07:43
tjaaltonit's possible to hit the race with native hw07:45
tjaaltonthough seems uncommon these days07:45
dufluBecause virtual hardware is faster at something?07:45
tjaaltonprobably07:46
dufluI remember that used to be true for Windows VMs, when I used them many years ago. VMs actually did some things faster07:47
tjaaltonthey have less hw to probe, so the boot process is quicker?07:48
dufluEven same hardware, just less laggy than the silicon implementations in some areas07:48
tjaaltonLaney: any hope to get systemd fixes for 1864644 in focal, or a ppa maybe?07:54
dufluI meant bug 174534507:55
ubot5bug 1745345 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg assert failure: Xorg: /usr/include/xorg/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion `key->initialized' failed." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174534507:55
tjaaltonyes, and this should fix that07:55
oSoMoNdidrocks, bien, et toi?07:57
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va :)08:00
ricotzgood morning desktopers!08:10
oSoMoNgood morning ricotz08:10
ricotzoSoMoN, hey08:10
jameshmorning08:10
oSoMoNhey jamesh08:10
ricotzcould someone approve vala 0.40.19 which sits in the bionic/queue?08:11
didrockshey ricotz, jamesh08:19
bigon21:33 < jdstrand> bigon: actually, /bin/{,ba,da}sh ixr, << the thing is that ubuntu has the same profile, so I'm surprised you don't have that too08:22
ricotzdidrocks, hi08:25
seb128good morning desktopers!08:28
oSoMoNsalut seb128, ça va?08:29
seb128oSoMoN, lut, ouais! et toi en forme ?08:29
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oSoMoNseb128, la forme :)08:30
dufluMorning seb12808:33
dufluseb128, I am trying to switch to any non-spinner theme for comparison but just get a black screen. What am I missing?08:33
dufluOh the black screen was partly a successful boot to the wrong VT08:34
dufluStill no useful plymouth theme08:34
dufluseb128, nevermind. Just force reinstalling plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo fixed it up.08:36
dufluMeaning there's something missing from the spinner uninstall process08:36
seb128duflu, hey. Ok, I will look at that problem, probably the alternative didn't get restored properly or something08:49
dufluYes I saw a message about that during the reinstall08:50
Laneyhey ho09:03
Laneytjaalton: foundations (probably rbalin_t) are handling that one09:03
tjaaltonLaney: ok, I'll poke him09:04
oSoMoNgood morning Laney09:08
dufluHi Laney09:12
didrockshey hey Laney09:28
Laneyhey oSoMoN duflu didrocks!09:36
rbalinttjaalton, Laney i'm waiting for ubuntu-release approval for LP: #186797210:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1867972 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please accept systemd 245.2-1ubuntu1 to Focal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186797210:14
rbalintto bring the fix in10:14
rbalintLaney, vorlon handled the ffe, but he is sleeping now, could you maybe give the green light?10:16
tjaaltonrbalint: nice :)10:17
rbalintLaney, also please do highlight me, so i can see what is going on when i connect to the bouncer10:17
Laneyrbalint: I'd rather not as Steve will have done a review that I've not done yet --- but you could upload a final build to a silo and then ask the approving release team member (vorlon) to hit 'publish' for you at the same time.10:19
rbalintLaney, ok, that helps a bit with the publishing speed indeed10:27
rbalintLaney, also is there an autopkgtest that checks packages installed on zfs as root?10:29
rbalintLaney, arch users experienced issues with zfs and systemd 245 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1507010:30
gitbotsystemd issue 15070 in systemd "[Arch Linux | systemd 245-1 & 245-2 | ZFS on root] System no longer boots - "Caught <ABRT>, dumped core as pid / Freezing execution"" [Needs-Reporter-Feedback ❓, Regression ⚠️, Open]10:30
rbalintLaney, i've tested systemd 245 with zfs as root manually, but i'd prefer not hittins similar issues later either10:31
Laneyrbalint: Not sure, would be something zfs-ish if anything10:31
LaneyMaybe didrocks or jibel could help you10:31
jibelrbalint, comments in the report says they have the same issue with etx4, so unrelated to zfs10:37
rbalintjibel, true, i'm still wondering if we could have a test with zfs10:40
Laneyhttp://appstream.staging.ubuntu.com/ now with 100% snaps10:59
jphilipshi all. i'm part xubuntu team and wanted to coordinate a joint marketing and bug hunting session for all the flavors. I'm bringing together all my thoughts of it in the google doc below, which all are welcome to comment and contribute to.11:07
jphilipshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1r-EiIhfTILuAleEixu1dhLZTOKFah7WyfRE2CVMHFag/edit#11:07
popeywelcome jphilips :)11:08
jphilipsjibel: popey left you should be informed of this as the QA lead ^^^11:08
jphilipsfelt* you11:08
jibeljphilips, thank you, I'll read your doc.11:51
jdstrandbigon: Ubuntu has the same issue and just hasn't fixed it yet12:03
seb128Laney, great, nice job :-)12:31
jphilipsdoes anyone know how to set this up, so we can bridge between the irc and telgram channels for the bug hunting session - https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge12:32
ahasenackhi, anybody else had the mouse buttons stop working today?13:02
ahasenackwhenever I click, the cursor just moves a few pixels to the right13:02
ahasenacktap-to-click (touchpad) still works13:02
ahasenackbut no middle or right click with that13:02
tjaaltonany idea why the nextcloud client uses wrong theming with the dock icon? it shows the colored icon when it should be b/w13:10
tjaaltonand now with latest updates looks streched, so even uglier :)13:11
tjaaltonoh, it's behind a config toggle13:26
bigonjdstrand: oh ok13:54
hellsworthgood morning desktopers15:06
oSoMoNhey hellsworth15:06
hellsworthhi oSoMoN , it will be a bit on the new LO release. need to test the new ppa pkg. so maybe monday15:07
oSoMoNhellsworth, no worries, just ping me with the source package whenever it's ready15:07
hellsworthwill do15:07
EickmeyerHi all! I've got some very pressing issues in ubiquity that need to be taken care of. At first I had bug 1851346 back in December, but now bug 1868191 has popped up and they're both related to the manual package selection for Ubuntu Studio.15:14
ubot5bug 1851346 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "Ubuntu Studio 19.10 Installer Causes Wanted Programs to be Removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185134615:14
ubot5bug 1868191 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unchecking all optional media apps, install fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186819115:14
EickmeyerI see two solutions for this: 1) we fix the problem (preferable) or 2) we disable the package selection altogether.15:15
EickmeyerEither way, I don't want these bugs landing in an LTS, and I don't have the know-how to fix them.15:16
Eickmeyer#ubuntu-devel has been largely unresponsive on this front.15:16
ograhmm ... has anyone seen the display flip upside down on the splash screen before ? i had two boots in qemu today where that happened (spinner gone, logo upside down at the top of the screen)15:16
seb128ogra, never saw that15:21
seb128Eickmeyer, try pinged bdmurray maybe? ubiquity is maintained by foundations15:22
seb128Eickmeyer, I doubt we are the resources here atm to deal with those issues15:22
Eickmeyerseb128: Just tried it, we'll see what happens. I've been referred here in the past for ubiquity issues.15:23
oSoMoNogra, I seem to remember duflu mentioned something like that in Frankfurt15:23
seb128Eickmeyer, foundations owns it even if they are trying to tell people they are not, also we do look at issue in the frontend but images building and packages handling is their something they look at usually15:24
Eickmeyerseb128: So, basically, they need to start owning stuff they own. :)15:25
seb128Eickmeyer, bdmurray's reply seems positive on that front :)15:25
Eickmeyerseb128: Thanks, it does seem to be that way. :)15:26
ograwell, i sadly cant reproduce it reliably now15:42
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tjaaltonuh, anyone got a bt headset to work with focal?17:33
tjaaltongetting audio to it seems quite hard17:36
tjaaltonsystem sounds yes, but everything else goes to the speakers17:38
tjaaltonincluding the sound test17:38
seb128tjaalton, is that similar to bug #1866194 ?17:54
ubot5bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[Zoom USB audio on Dell Inspiron 7370] shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186619417:54
tjaaltonseb128: sure does, thanks17:59
Laneyoh that got unassigned, how lovely18:00
tjaaltonI can poke hwang4 about it, if he has some ideas18:07
seb128tjaalton, would be nice to report upstream if you can18:20
tjaaltonseb128: yeah, I'll do that next week18:20
seb128thx18:20
tjaaltonI've had this with eoan too, but I don't usually use a bt headset, so kinda forgot about it18:21
tjaaltonthere was a trick that changing the output profile made it work, or something18:22
tjaaltonnow that doesn't help either18:22
oSoMoNgood night and good week-end all18:40

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