[00:42] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, now I'm confused - what version is the snap-store branch supposed to be on?
[01:29] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: snap-store branch is 3.34.x
[01:29] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, can you force push your branch to snap-store? I stuffed it up and rebased that one.
[01:30] <kenvandine> Sure
[01:31] <kenvandine> the goal is to stabilize what's on snap-store-3-36 and then push that to snap-store, but not until it doesn't crash :)
[01:32] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: i force pushed the snap-stsore branch
[01:33] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, thanks. Should be all good now. snap-store-3-36 is rebased.
[01:34] <kenvandine> thanks
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:59] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[06:59] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:14] <sa-ghosts> any news on the Xorg crash in 20.04 ?
[07:14] <duflu> sa-ghosts, please tell us the bug ID, or create one by running 'ubuntu-bug xorg'
[07:15] <sa-ghosts> it's already reported
[07:16] <duflu> sa-ghosts, yes there are thousands of them, so which one do you mean?
[07:16] <duflu> Any more details?
[07:17] <sa-ghosts> yup, can't login to xorg session
[07:17] <duflu> Again there are plenty of those
[07:17] <sa-ghosts> I have to use wayland (in VM)
[07:18] <duflu> sa-ghosts, I think I can guess based on your comments so far. Let me see
[07:18] <sa-ghosts> give me 5 min I will give you a link
[07:19] <duflu> sa-ghosts, sounds like maybe bug 1864644
[07:19] <duflu> If you would like updates for any bug you can subscribe to each one
[07:21] <sa-ghosts> bug 1796437
[07:25] <didrocks> good morning
[07:26] <duflu> sa-ghosts, looks like there's no news, and nobody working on it :(
[07:26] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:27] <jibel> morning all
[07:28] <duflu> Morning jibel
[07:33] <tjaalton> sa-ghosts: is this with vbox?
[07:34] <didrocks> hey duflu, jibel
[07:34] <duflu> sa-ghosts, meet the Ubuntu Xorg maintainer :)
[07:35] <tjaalton> though it sounds like the systemd fixes would be needed
[07:35] <tjaalton> the assert is just misleading
[07:38] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel
[07:40] <didrocks> oSoMoN: salut. ça va ?
[07:42] <duflu> tjaalton, the original bug isn't a VM though. You're saying most cases of it would be?
[07:43] <duflu> Ah yes. Three of the duplicates are VMs
[07:45] <tjaalton> it's possible to hit the race with native hw
[07:45] <tjaalton> though seems uncommon these days
[07:45] <duflu> Because virtual hardware is faster at something?
[07:46] <tjaalton> probably
[07:47] <duflu> I remember that used to be true for Windows VMs, when I used them many years ago. VMs actually did some things faster
[07:48] <tjaalton> they have less hw to probe, so the boot process is quicker?
[07:48] <duflu> Even same hardware, just less laggy than the silicon implementations in some areas
[07:54] <tjaalton> Laney: any hope to get systemd fixes for 1864644 in focal, or a ppa maybe?
[07:55] <duflu> I meant bug 1745345
[07:55] <tjaalton> yes, and this should fix that
[07:57] <oSoMoN> didrocks, bien, et toi?
[08:00] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ça va :)
[08:10] <ricotz> good morning desktopers!
[08:10] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz
[08:10] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hey
[08:10] <jamesh> morning
[08:10] <oSoMoN> hey jamesh
[08:11] <ricotz> could someone approve vala 0.40.19 which sits in the bionic/queue?
[08:19] <didrocks> hey ricotz, jamesh
[08:22] <bigon> 21:33 < jdstrand> bigon: actually, /bin/{,ba,da}sh ixr, << the thing is that ubuntu has the same profile, so I'm surprised you don't have that too
[08:25] <ricotz> didrocks, hi
[08:28] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:29] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va?
[08:29] <seb128> oSoMoN, lut, ouais! et toi en forme ?
[08:30] <oSoMoN> seb128, la forme :)
[08:33] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:33] <duflu> seb128, I am trying to switch to any non-spinner theme for comparison but just get a black screen. What am I missing?
[08:34] <duflu> Oh the black screen was partly a successful boot to the wrong VT
[08:34] <duflu> Still no useful plymouth theme
[08:36] <duflu> seb128, nevermind. Just force reinstalling plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo fixed it up.
[08:36] <duflu> Meaning there's something missing from the spinner uninstall process
[08:49] <seb128> duflu, hey. Ok, I will look at that problem, probably the alternative didn't get restored properly or something
[08:50] <duflu> Yes I saw a message about that during the reinstall
[09:03] <Laney> hey ho
[09:03] <Laney> tjaalton: foundations (probably rbalin_t) are handling that one
[09:04] <tjaalton> Laney: ok, I'll poke him
[09:08] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[09:12] <duflu> Hi Laney
[09:28] <didrocks> hey hey Laney
[09:36] <Laney> hey oSoMoN duflu didrocks!
[10:14] <rbalint> tjaalton, Laney i'm waiting for ubuntu-release approval for LP: #1867972
[10:14] <rbalint> to bring the fix in
[10:16] <rbalint> Laney, vorlon handled the ffe, but he is sleeping now, could you maybe give the green light?
[10:17] <tjaalton> rbalint: nice :)
[10:17] <rbalint> Laney, also please do highlight me, so i can see what is going on when i connect to the bouncer
[10:19] <Laney> rbalint: I'd rather not as Steve will have done a review that I've not done yet --- but you could upload a final build to a silo and then ask the approving release team member (vorlon) to hit 'publish' for you at the same time.
[10:27] <rbalint> Laney, ok, that helps a bit with the publishing speed indeed
[10:29] <rbalint> Laney, also is there an autopkgtest that checks packages installed on zfs as root?
[10:30] <rbalint> Laney, arch users experienced issues with zfs and systemd 245 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/15070
[10:30] <gitbot> systemd issue 15070 in systemd "[Arch Linux | systemd 245-1 & 245-2 | ZFS on root] System no longer boots - "Caught <ABRT>, dumped core as pid / Freezing execution"" [Needs-Reporter-Feedback ❓, Regression ⚠️, Open]
[10:31] <rbalint> Laney, i've tested systemd 245 with zfs as root manually, but i'd prefer not hittins similar issues later either
[10:31] <Laney> rbalint: Not sure, would be something zfs-ish if anything
[10:31] <Laney> Maybe didrocks or jibel could help you
[10:37] <jibel> rbalint, comments in the report says they have the same issue with etx4, so unrelated to zfs
[10:40] <rbalint> jibel, true, i'm still wondering if we could have a test with zfs
[10:59] <Laney> http://appstream.staging.ubuntu.com/ now with 100% snaps
[11:07] <jphilips> hi all. i'm part xubuntu team and wanted to coordinate a joint marketing and bug hunting session for all the flavors. I'm bringing together all my thoughts of it in the google doc below, which all are welcome to comment and contribute to.
[11:07] <jphilips> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r-EiIhfTILuAleEixu1dhLZTOKFah7WyfRE2CVMHFag/edit#
[11:08] <popey> welcome jphilips :)
[11:08] <jphilips> jibel: popey left you should be informed of this as the QA lead ^^^
[11:08] <jphilips> felt* you
[11:51] <jibel> jphilips, thank you, I'll read your doc.
[12:03] <jdstrand> bigon: Ubuntu has the same issue and just hasn't fixed it yet
[12:31] <seb128> Laney, great, nice job :-)
[12:32] <jphilips> does anyone know how to set this up, so we can bridge between the irc and telgram channels for the bug hunting session - https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
[13:02] <ahasenack> hi, anybody else had the mouse buttons stop working today?
[13:02] <ahasenack> whenever I click, the cursor just moves a few pixels to the right
[13:02] <ahasenack> tap-to-click (touchpad) still works
[13:02] <ahasenack> but no middle or right click with that
[13:10] <tjaalton> any idea why the nextcloud client uses wrong theming with the dock icon? it shows the colored icon when it should be b/w
[13:11] <tjaalton> and now with latest updates looks streched, so even uglier :)
[13:26] <tjaalton> oh, it's behind a config toggle
[13:54] <bigon> jdstrand: oh ok
[15:06] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:06] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth
[15:07] <hellsworth> hi oSoMoN , it will be a bit on the new LO release. need to test the new ppa pkg. so maybe monday
[15:07] <oSoMoN> hellsworth, no worries, just ping me with the source package whenever it's ready
[15:07] <hellsworth> will do
[15:14] <Eickmeyer> Hi all! I've got some very pressing issues in ubiquity that need to be taken care of. At first I had bug 1851346 back in December, but now bug 1868191 has popped up and they're both related to the manual package selection for Ubuntu Studio.
[15:15] <Eickmeyer> I see two solutions for this: 1) we fix the problem (preferable) or 2) we disable the package selection altogether.
[15:16] <Eickmeyer> Either way, I don't want these bugs landing in an LTS, and I don't have the know-how to fix them.
[15:16] <Eickmeyer> #ubuntu-devel has been largely unresponsive on this front.
[15:16] <ogra> hmm ... has anyone seen the display flip upside down on the splash screen before ? i had two boots in qemu today where that happened (spinner gone, logo upside down at the top of the screen)
[15:21] <seb128> ogra, never saw that
[15:22] <seb128> Eickmeyer, try pinged bdmurray maybe? ubiquity is maintained by foundations
[15:22] <seb128> Eickmeyer, I doubt we are the resources here atm to deal with those issues
[15:23] <Eickmeyer> seb128: Just tried it, we'll see what happens. I've been referred here in the past for ubiquity issues.
[15:23] <oSoMoN> ogra, I seem to remember duflu mentioned something like that in Frankfurt
[15:24] <seb128> Eickmeyer, foundations owns it even if they are trying to tell people they are not, also we do look at issue in the frontend but images building and packages handling is their something they look at usually
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> seb128: So, basically, they need to start owning stuff they own. :)
[15:25] <seb128> Eickmeyer, bdmurray's reply seems positive on that front :)
[15:26] <Eickmeyer> seb128: Thanks, it does seem to be that way. :)
[15:42] <ogra> well, i sadly cant reproduce it reliably now
[17:33] <tjaalton> uh, anyone got a bt headset to work with focal?
[17:36] <tjaalton> getting audio to it seems quite hard
[17:38] <tjaalton> system sounds yes, but everything else goes to the speakers
[17:38] <tjaalton> including the sound test
[17:54] <seb128> tjaalton, is that similar to bug #1866194 ?
[17:59] <tjaalton> seb128: sure does, thanks
[18:00] <Laney> oh that got unassigned, how lovely
[18:07] <tjaalton> I can poke hwang4 about it, if he has some ideas
[18:20] <seb128> tjaalton, would be nice to report upstream if you can
[18:20] <tjaalton> seb128: yeah, I'll do that next week
[18:20] <seb128> thx
[18:21] <tjaalton> I've had this with eoan too, but I don't usually use a bt headset, so kinda forgot about it
[18:22] <tjaalton> there was a trick that changing the output profile made it work, or something
[18:22] <tjaalton> now that doesn't help either
[18:40] <oSoMoN> good night and good week-end all