| ducasse | good morning | 07:15 |
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| lotuspsychje | !snap | 09:29 |
| ubot5 | Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | think there was one | 09:30 |
| TJ- | hmmm | 09:30 |
| lotuspsychje | #snappy | 09:30 |
| TJ- | Found the issue with the broken juju charmed install of kuernetes... they're running the snap core unconfined and it is causing its copy of /usr/bin/ssh to be linked to the host's libpthread.so ... which doesn't contain a symbol 'ssh' expects. The libpthread.so in the snap isn't being used because of the LD_LIBRARY_PATH ! | 09:31 |
| TJ- | Thanks lotuspsychje you're a star as always | 09:31 |
| ducasse | #snapcraft should also exist | 09:31 |
| ducasse | at least it did | 09:32 |
| lotuspsychje | thats confusing, whats the difference between the 2? | 09:32 |
| ducasse | i _think_ #snappy is partially about ubuntu core too | 09:33 |
| lotuspsychje | wich of the 2 would fit best in the factoid? | 09:33 |
| ducasse | #snapcraft, probably | 09:34 |
| TJ- | yeah; got them now... alis didn't being them up for a search of *snap* | 09:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !snap is <reply> Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io and #snapcraft | 09:36 |
| TJ- | aha! it's because I surrounded the argument with ' makrs | 09:36 |
| TJ- | e.g. not '*snap*' but simply snap | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | ima snap noob :p | 09:38 |
| TJ- | this is a pretty major problem... incompatible libraries between host and snap core... and on the to-be LTS releasing next month! | 09:41 |
| TJ- | this is what happens when core services are taken outside the packaging/testing/QA system | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | and the server installer revamp too.. | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | think that gonna give fireworx/bugs | 09:42 |
| TJ- | dunno not touched the installer; easier to use debootstrap! | 09:42 |
| TJ- | this 'fad' for hiding techy stuff behind a gui is getting out of hand - this JuJu / conjure-up creates a fancy TUI and when it is bootstrapping the Juju controller into an LXD container puts up a python animated progress indicator which has no relevance to the fact the thing died in the background. 20 minutes later it fails and suggests a log file to look at which says it timed out after | 09:44 |
| TJ- | waiting 20 !! minutes doing nothing | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | : o | 09:44 |
| TJ- | Personally I'd take these devs out behind the barn and shoot them! | 09:44 |
| TJ- | Dev ops my arse! | 09:44 |
| lotuspsychje | that sounds yikes | 09:46 |
| lotuspsychje | hey knightwise | 10:55 |
| lotuspsychje | working from home today? | 10:55 |
| knightwise | hey lotuspsychje | 10:55 |
| knightwise | Yeah , have been for the whole week. | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | neat | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | im from belgium too by the way | 10:56 |
| knightwise | Yeah ... i guess , I'm not complaining but i have to say working from home an entire week is quite intens | 10:56 |
| knightwise | ha :) Same here :) Tongeren (Eastside, near Liege) | 10:56 |
| lotuspsychje | nice, bruges here | 10:57 |
| knightwise | been tinkering around with a second hand Lenovo Yoga I got online. Put ubuntu on it and getting the final touches ready | 10:57 |
| lotuspsychje | final touches as in 20.04? | 10:57 |
| knightwise | 18.04 , i'm an LTS man :) | 10:58 |
| knightwise | have you played around with it ? | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | 20.04 is also lts :p | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah im running it | 10:58 |
| knightwise | major improvements or just a good polishing ? | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | i always help bug out lts in early stages | 10:58 |
| knightwise | bless you :) | 10:58 |
| knightwise | I mostly run windows / OSX on my systems but I have about 3 different ubuntu servers running in the house | 10:59 |
| lotuspsychje | well, they predicted it was going to be a release without much changes, but in my opinion, theres some nice goodies already inside | 10:59 |
| lotuspsychje | lovely | 10:59 |
| knightwise | ah nice :) | 10:59 |
| knightwise | Yeah , looking forward to upgrading the yoga | 10:59 |
| lotuspsychje | faster gnome, new themes, new snap software, new extensions app,amazon icon out,...etc | 11:00 |
| knightwise | the interface is nice. For work I mostly run windows and osx but I use a lot of WSL if I can. | 11:00 |
| knightwise | Snaps are de-light-full | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | not everyone likes snaps, but in some cases they can be yeah | 11:00 |
| knightwise | I have been listening to the ubuntu uk podcast for a while , popey got me into snaps big time :) | 11:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ah great | 11:01 |
| knightwise | they are especially nice when you make your own post-install script | 11:01 |
| knightwise | you dont need to add repositories and repository keys and stuff , so that is cool | 11:02 |
| lotuspsychje | you a dev? | 11:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I see the application for them but I don't agree with switching default packages to snaps. | 11:02 |
| knightwise | IT Manager and Project manager , | 11:02 |
| lotuspsychje | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, i dont like taking the choice away neither | 11:02 |
| knightwise | If I can write a bash script a dinosaur can dedode i'm happy | 11:03 |
| knightwise | sixwheeledbeast: Snapps are replacing debs ? | 11:03 |
| knightwise | that is a big difference with other debian distro's | 11:03 |
| lotuspsychje | some packages come snap as default on ubuntu now, is what he means | 11:03 |
| lotuspsychje | like the snap software will be on 20.04 for example | 11:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It was mentioned in IRC that a handful of packages that come with 20.04 will be snaps as default. | 11:04 |
| lotuspsychje | but on 18.04 there are also | 11:04 |
| knightwise | well, if you select software from the store its sometimes hard to spot de difference between a .deb and a snap | 11:05 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah id wish they divided that | 11:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have removed snapd from my 18.04 so i won't be getting snaps. | 11:05 |
| knightwise | for the end user it doesnt make a lot fo difference. | 11:05 |
| lotuspsychje | knightwise: it does, cause some snaps come broken by default | 11:05 |
| knightwise | ah :( THAT is indeed true. But isnt the same true for deb apps ? | 11:06 |
| lotuspsychje | so the user will sometimes install a software that doesnt launch | 11:06 |
| knightwise | or is ther better vetting and testing for those | 11:06 |
| lotuspsychje | i havent seen much broken packages from apt yet | 11:06 |
| lotuspsychje | but there surely also are yeah | 11:07 |
| knightwise | true. I have been trying out a few snaps because I wanted a youtube download interface that was simple and reliable | 11:07 |
| knightwise | so far no luck | 11:07 |
| knightwise | so i'll just stick to youtube-dl | 11:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | There are a few wrappers for youtube-dl | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | snap find youtube shows some list | 11:08 |
| knightwise | yeah i tried a few but as you say : a lot of them are broken | 11:08 |
| knightwise | So i decided to write my own little (simple) script to capture the different app options | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah, so thats the bad part about it, the user gets stuck with broken software | 11:08 |
| knightwise | I download quite a bit of video material and audio from youtube. Love to do that | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | i see | 11:09 |
| knightwise | the only thing i miss is a decent stable command line based youtube player | 11:09 |
| knightwise | mps-youtube used to do that wonderfully but the package today is terribly broken | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | knightwise: cant vlc play yt from cli? | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | !info streamlink | 11:11 |
| ubot5 | streamlink (source: streamlink): CLI for extracting video streams from various websites to a video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.0+dfsg-1 (bionic), package size 34 kB, installed size 151 kB | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | or^ | 11:11 |
| knightwise | well, playing the urls is not realy a problem. Its more that mps-yotube had a coulple of very cool ways to search and build playlists | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i see | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | gonna grab a lunch first here | 11:14 |
| knightwise | but i'm mananging today :) I copy the urls of the video's I want to keep in 2 textfiles (one for the video download , the other ones for the audio only download) then I have 2 youtube-dl scripts that parse the files , download the video's , convert them to the right format and then clear out the files | 11:14 |
| knightwise | me too :) Catch you guys on the flipside _ | 11:14 |
| lotuspsychje | idle around and we meet again :p | 11:14 |
| knightwise | ok :) nice chatting with you guys _ | 11:14 |
| lotuspsychje | ; ) | 11:14 |
| lotuspsychje | knightwise: what purpose does your ubuntu servers have? | 13:07 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: 950 of his dmesg uvcvideo 1-5:1.0: Entity type for entity Extension 4 was not initialized! | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychje | and uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control : -110 (exp. 26). | 14:09 |
| lotuspsychje | another kernel 5.3 -42 dupe joined bug #1868376 | 17:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 1867803 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1868376 ALSA: No soundcards found after updating kernel to 5.3.0.42.36" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867803 | 17:06 |
| akem | That's a pretty anoying bug... :) | 17:09 |
| oerheks | This alligater joe is really a pita | 18:45 |
| oerheks | https://www.xda-developers.com/developer-ports-ubuntu-touch-to-the-xiaomi-redmi-note-7/ | 21:23 |
| oerheks | Developer ports Ubuntu Touch to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 | 21:23 |
| akem | I thought Ubuntu touch was dead. | 21:30 |
| oerheks | mope | 21:30 |
| daftykins | it is for anything that matters :P | 21:31 |
| oerheks | there are transitions to come, split away from that funny plugin | 21:31 |
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