| Eickmeyer | And with that, we already have an item for the backports. | 00:34 |
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| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: work is also moving on -controls so that will end up there as well | 05:17 |
| OvenWerks | I am going slow though as I have two boys to keep entertained... | 05:17 |
| teward | hey at least you have distractions I am going stir crazy right now stuck at home with everything shut | 16:11 |
| OvenWerks | Build a boat. " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats" | 16:22 |
| teward | heh. in an apartment building so would be hard. also, cant get wood - hardware store is shut | 16:25 |
| OvenWerks | My 33 year old son and I built a boat in the living room when he was about 8 | 16:26 |
| OvenWerks | It was fun getting it out the door but we did. | 16:27 |
| OvenWerks | but yeah you do need the wood | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I hear that. I've got one boy to keep entertained, but he keeps himself entertained fairly well. | 17:36 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/1868410 | 23:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1868410 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu) "Menu->Audio Production is not sorted" [Undecided,New] | 23:09 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I'll take a look and see what's up. | 23:10 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure which gnome budgie is but I suspect this is actually the system menu file that comes with budgie | 23:11 |
| OvenWerks | both the gnome 2era and the newer system menu definitions have a bug that causes this... the gnome devs do not care (having moved on to no menu) and those who do deny it is a bug | 23:12 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, I'll see what I've got compared to the order -menu does. | 23:14 |
| OvenWerks | unfortunately the sample menu definition file at freedesktop.org | 23:16 |
| OvenWerks | is broken | 23:16 |
| Eickmeyer | Looks like it's sorted for me, so I can't reproduce. | 23:16 |
| Eickmeyer | I'll check the latest ISO too. | 23:16 |
| OvenWerks | if you look at: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ar01s08.html you will find close to the top a line: <MergeDir>applications-merged</MergeDir> | 23:17 |
| OvenWerks | that line really should be the second line from the bottom | 23:18 |
| OvenWerks | that is it should be the last line before the last </Menu> | 23:18 |
| Eickmeyer | That line is missing from studio.menu. You're saying it should be there OvenWerks? | 23:20 |
| OvenWerks | That line shouold not be in that file. | 23:21 |
| Eickmeyer | It's not. I do know what he's talking about though, but in this case it's sorted in a workflow priority, not alphabetcially. Not a bug, as far as I can tell. | 23:22 |
| OvenWerks | compare: /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu with /etc/xdg/xdg/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/ | 23:22 |
| OvenWerks | the same file. | 23:23 |
| Eickmeyer | We don't touch either of those in ubuntustudio-menu. | 23:23 |
| OvenWerks | no. that wouold be the wrong package | 23:24 |
| Eickmeyer | It's in -default-settings that we have that. | 23:24 |
| OvenWerks | yes | 23:24 |
| OvenWerks | the problem would not be in our package but in the budgie package | 23:25 |
| Eickmeyer | Right, so it's completely irrellevant to us and not a bug. | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | compare to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1192002 | 23:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1192002 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "Menu config file merges menus from standard locations too soon so defaults override merges." [Low,Triaged] | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | I actually put out bug reports for flavour menu files with this problem | 23:27 |
| OvenWerks | none have been fixed except maybe xubuntu (and not xfce?) and I have heard that lx may have by now too. | 23:27 |
| OvenWerks | kubuntu/plasma/kde has always been correct | 23:28 |
| Eickmeyer | No, I tested it, and even if it has the bug, our menus are honored. | 23:28 |
| OvenWerks | you have budgie too? | 23:28 |
| OvenWerks | wow. | 23:28 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't think we can rightfully expect other desktop environments to conform to it. -menu is very specific to Xfce. | 23:29 |
| OvenWerks | yeah the menus would still work, but normally in that case the order would be wrong | 23:29 |
| Eickmeyer | Exactly. I'm going to mark the bug as "Won't Fix" because we have it in a workflow prioritization order more than an alphabetical order. His "not sorted" is intentional in our case. | 23:30 |
| OvenWerks | it was not meant to be, I actually spent a lot of time making that as generic as possible and it will work with any correct .menu file I have tried | 23:30 |
| OvenWerks | their bug description is not helpful either... a list of sub menus when correct and when broken would be much better | 23:32 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. | 23:32 |
| OvenWerks | (what I see vs. what I hoped to see) | 23:32 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. For instance, GNOME doesn't even use a menu, so they don't care. Xfce, Plasma, and LXQt honor the menu pretty well, though I think, especially in LSQt's case, it gets sorted alphabetically. | 23:37 |
| Eickmeyer | Budgie has to implement their own system altogether since they're GNOME-based. | 23:38 |
| Eickmeyer | Not sure what MATE does, but their menu plugins have difficulty conforming if they're not the old GNOME 2 style menu. | 23:40 |
| OvenWerks | Anyway, I think that is what this bug is about. If I knew which of my many bugs it works with I could mark it as a duplicate of. | 23:44 |
| Eickmeyer | I marked it invalid. He wants it "sorted" but we have it intentionally in the order we have it in. | 23:46 |
| OvenWerks | yup. | 23:46 |
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