[04:16] <roadrunneratwast> hi. i am trying to install the software for my wifi card.  for this, i need to first have build-essential and dpkg, or just make.  apt-get --print-urls gives me "no candidate for make/build-essentials/dpkg". Do I have to download all dependencies individually from https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/devel/build-essential?  I will need to go back and lookup my arch, right?  Is there an easier way?
[04:21] <roadrunneratwast> neever mind.  got it
[10:30] <Hamilton> I installed i3-wm and somehow dunst replaced the original xfce4-notification. How can I get my original xfce4-notif
[10:31] <brainwash> Hamilton: uninstall dunst
[10:31] <Hamilton> brainwash, But can I use xfce4-notif in i3wm?
[10:32] <brainwash> in? you mean "with"
[10:32] <brainwash> sure you can
[10:33] <Hamilton> brainwash, thing is, with i3 I have to call my own pactl and xbacklight and the like. But if I use xfce's who controls those stuff? Aren't they part of DE?
[10:34] <brainwash> well yeah. Xfce has components to manages various things.
[10:36] <brainwash> the pulseaudio panel plugin handles multimedia keys, the power manager reacts to brightness key presses
[10:36] <brainwash> xfsettingsd applies many settings (display, themes, etc.)
[10:38] <brainwash> i3 is only a window manager
[10:39] <Hamilton> brainwash, So I have to write my own notifs with dunst with non-xfce utilities in the i3 config file...Another question
[10:39] <Hamilton> How to use Xfce's own locker, light-dm, instead of i3lock since I installed i3 as a new session and it seems improper to have another locker control logging in
[10:39] <brainwash> the easiest approach would be to replace xfwm4 with i3 though
[10:39] <Hamilton> When I invoke dm-tool lock, it could be bypassed by switching to and back from tty
[10:39] <brainwash> you install/use light-locker
[10:39] <brainwash> or any other screen locker
[10:40] <Hamilton> brainwash, Isn't light-dm a screen locker?
[10:40] <brainwash> no
[10:40] <brainwash> it's a display manager
[10:40] <Hamilton> I mean the one Xubuntu comes with preinsatalled
[10:40] <brainwash> that one was light-locker (which is using lightdm-gtk-greeter as unlock interface)
[10:40] <Hamilton> When I boot to the login page, what exatly is the name of that program? (From there I can enter password or change session)
[10:41] <brainwash> in recent Xubuntu versions we have the new xfce4-screensaver
[10:41] <Hamilton> My xubuntu is 18.04
[10:41] <brainwash> lightdm-gtk-greeter is the visual interface for login/unlock
[10:42] <brainwash> lightdm is the backend
[10:42] <Hamilton> In Xubuntu, screen lock goes to lightdm-gtk-greeter, yes?
[10:43] <brainwash> right
[10:43] <Hamilton> I want this behaviour in i3wm also. So I don't manage two lockers
[10:43] <brainwash> then put "light-locker" in your autostart list
[10:44] <brainwash> and use light-locker-command --lock
[10:44] <brainwash> to lock the session
[10:44] <Hamilton> nice...Can I check it in terminal?
[10:44] <brainwash> yes
[10:45] <Hamilton> light-locker-command -l
[10:45] <Hamilton> ** Message: 15:14:51.621: Received error message from the locker: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver was not provided by any .service files
[10:45] <brainwash> you did not start light-locker
[10:46] <brainwash> or?
[10:47] <Hamilton> exec --no-startup-id xss-lock --transfer-sleep-lock -- i3lock --nofork
[10:48] <Hamilton> i3 is starting its own "lock process", right?
[10:49] <brainwash> ...
[10:49] <Hamilton> brainwash, I did not start light-locker
[10:49] <brainwash> why not?
[10:49] <Hamilton> Since I fear it ocnfilits with this xss-lock
[10:50] <brainwash> if you are unsure, please ask in the i3 channel
[10:50] <brainwash> keep in mind that this is the Xubuntu support channel
[10:50] <Hamilton> brainwash, ok. In 20.04 light-lock stuff is going to be dropped?
[10:50] <Hamilton> with xfce-screensaver?
[10:51] <Hamilton> Why? Because of security?
[10:52] <brainwash> because of bugs due to how locking with lightdm + lightdm-gtk-greeter works
[10:52] <brainwash> mostly caused by graphics drivers
[10:53] <brainwash> or when suspending the system
[10:58] <Hamilton> brainwash, you are one of the devs?
[10:59] <brainwash> no
[11:09] <rhode> hi guys
[11:10] <rhode> I know that I cat tile windows in XFCE, and already have binding with Super+Left|right to tile Left and right
[11:11] <rhode> This gives me a 50% / 50% split of the realestate
[11:11] <rhode> Is ther any way in XFCE to resize the windows (like its done in e.g. i3vm) so that a keypress will e.g. reduce left windows by 10% and at the same time increase the right windows by 10% ?
[12:09] <roadrunneratwast> hi.  i need to install dkms, build-essential, and make on an offline computer.  i am now on another linux box that has internet.  where can i download a .deb file that would contain these?
[12:14] <diogenes_> roadrunneratwast, you can do: apt-get download package.deb
[12:15] <roadrunneratwast> ok thanks
[12:16] <diogenes_> make sure you got dependences too.
[12:16] <roadrunneratwast> build-essentials has a ton of dependencies
[12:16] <roadrunneratwast> will the apt-get download all of them?
[12:17] <roadrunneratwast> i am trying to build the driver for my network card
[12:18] <roadrunneratwast> so i need build-essentials, make, dkms
[12:18] <diogenes_> i don'd think so, you can try: a[t-get download pack1 pack2
[12:18] <diogenes_> apt-get*
[12:18] <roadrunneratwast> oof
[12:18] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[12:22] <Unit193> See also: apt-offline
[12:28] <roadrunneratwast> build-essential deb is just a list, not actual packages
[12:28] <roadrunneratwast> just the dependency list
[12:32] <diogenes_> yeah a meta package.
[12:51] <roadrunneratwast> when i do apt-get print-uris <package> i receive the message "<package> has no insallation candidate
[13:18] <roadrunneratwast> oh.  but xenial has build-essentials installed by default?
[13:18] <roadrunneratwast> ok.  that would be easier
[15:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> Err:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 libquadmath0 amd64 8.3.0-6ubuntu1~18.04.1
[15:57] <CrazyLikeAFox>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.39 80]
[15:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> Err:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 libgfortran4 amd64 7.4.0-1ubuntu1~18.04.1
[15:57] <CrazyLikeAFox>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.39 80]
[15:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> I seem to have broken packages tht depend on these files
[16:01] <CrazyLikeAFox> According to synaptic, I have 3 broken packages: libarpack2, libhdf5-100, and liblapack3
[16:02] <CrazyLikeAFox> If I try to just remove any of them, they list a bunch of stuff dependant on them, especially the 3rd one, which includes stuff that's currently working fine
[16:13] <CrazyLikeAFox> hrm, synaptic at least won't let me remove the former two, as the main thing depending on them doesn't work to start with
[16:13] <CrazyLikeAFox> with the 3rd package broken still