[00:00] <Aleric> It being an opeion might make things different though, CaptRanger.
[00:01] <AlligatorJoe> tripelb..have you tried sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[00:03] <tripelb> no AlligatorJoe (like the GD alligator?) could you link me to something explaining that too? I believe you but I remember better if I understand. (Now searching the google or the duck on that command.
[00:03] <AlligatorJoe> tripelb what os are you using
[00:05] <AlligatorJoe> tripelb..if you have ubuntu...try sudo apt-cache search usb-creator-gtk and see if you get an installable program listed
[00:05] <tripelb> first 2 links didnt work so I am just doing it AlligatorJoe 18.04
[00:06] <tripelb> AlligatorJoe, says it is already installed
[00:06] <AlligatorJoe> well if it is...just type that name in a linux terminal
[00:07] <akem> As root, or with sudo btw.
[00:07] <tripelb> now I have to learn how to use it. (I am doing a vanilla installation. I have too many cd"s dvd's I Oh mushrooms (shitaki) this is a cd. FAIL)
[00:07] <akem> But this is for USB sticks, not disks.
[00:07] <tripelb> Oh tiny tiny details.
[00:07] <AlligatorJoe> tripelb...good grief.;..what is there to learn...it is just push-buttons
[00:08] <AlligatorJoe> tripelb oh you want to burn a bootable cd
[00:08] <tripelb> AlligatorJoe, that is what I needed to learn. 10}it is for usb 20 itis pushbittpm
[00:09] <tripelb> well ubuntu is too big for cd these days. I have to see if I have any dvds or find a free usb.
[00:09] <tripelb> AlligatorJoe, ^^
[00:09] <tripelb> off to search.
[00:16] <AlligatorJoe> i don't know anything about "only in the US" and bartenders...i never was able to get a job as a bartender so i know they were not talking about me
[00:19] <AlligatorJoe> and my bogus degree is in mathematics....of which i can say that smartphones, computers, satellites, rocket ships, the aerospace industry, automobiles, electrical machines like washers, dryers, PET scans, CAT scans, MRi's etc...are all evidence that math simply works.
[00:22] <AlligatorJoe> oh and i sure don't want to leave out the math underpinnings of vibrations in various quantum fields...for the structures of atoms among other things, and most importantly, music, melody and harmony all because math simply works
[00:24] <Aleric> Is anyone else getting an error when you do:
[00:24] <Aleric> ls /usr/share/doc/flex/NEWS.Debian.gz/
[00:24] <Aleric> note the trailing '/'
[00:24] <rfm> tripelb, pretty sure the network installer (mini.iso) still fits on a cd.. https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[00:28] <rfm> Aleric, I would expect putting a trailing slash to give "not a directory" on anything that's not a directory...
[00:29] <AlligatorJoe> and i certainly don't want to engage philosophers about the truth of anything...so i just settle for math simply works...nothing more...nothing less.
[00:29] <Aleric> sean:/usr/share/man>ls /usr/share/doc/flex/NEWS.Debian.gz/
[00:29] <Aleric> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/doc/flex/NEWS.Debian.gz/': Too many levels of symbolic links
[00:30] <Aleric> it is a symlink and it is pointing to itself
[00:31] <Aleric> My second linux box is suddenly connecting to ipv6 when I do 'apt get' WTF?
[00:31] <Aleric> 'man' broke on my main machine :((
[00:31] <Aleric> everything goes wrong :((
[00:39] <iKarus987> hi
[00:40] <chucara> Hi. I'm having an issue exposing port 443 from docker running on Ubuntu Server. Can anyone tell me how to diagnose whether something is blocking that port on my server? I can run "curl localhost:443" and get a response from a terminal, but I can't access it from other machines on my network.
[00:40] <AlligatorJoe> to say math can work...is a "call it good , call it bad, but its the best tool we had" for pragmatic uses...as less desirable than the truth....but well it is what it is.
[00:42] <AlligatorJoe> and that is the "honky tonk truth"
[00:45] <AlligatorJoe> not to be confused with "the truth"
[00:45] <rfm> Aleric, what release of Ubuntu? I just downloaded flex 2.6.4-6 (current in 18,04) and its NEWS.Debian.gz is ok.
[00:46] <rfm> AlligatorJoe, please take chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:46] <AlligatorJoe> rfm...i am just "killin time" waiting for the links browser to get a file
[00:47] <DalekSec> Perhaps you could kill time in a social channel, AlligatorJoe.
[00:48] <AlligatorJoe> DalekS...i don't know anything about social channels....me and Crocodile Lily were very private people and she's not around so i just work on lots of broken stuff
[00:50] <Aleric> Well, using a symlink for /usr/share break 'man' :/.
[00:50] <Aleric> I had to copy it back in place.
[00:51] <Aleric> breaks*
[00:51] <akem> chucara, Have you tried disabling firewall?
[00:51] <Aleric> yup, that version.
[00:52] <chucara> akem: No, my experience with network on ubuntu is very limited, but I will try.
[00:52] <iKarus987> HI i am having issues with openvpn anyone has idea where this client.conf file is located in ubuntu? i need to edit it
[00:52] <iKarus987> thanks
[00:52] <rfm> Aleric, perhaps "apt install flex --reinstall" will get the symlink overwritted with the real file...
[00:52] <akem> chucara, Check to see if you can ping the server from your other machines. If yes try to disable firewall on the server with "sudo ufw disable", just for testing.
[00:52] <chucara> akem: "sudo ufw status" says it is inactive
[00:53] <Aleric> rfm: now I ended up with:
[00:53] <Aleric> sean:/usr>ls -l /usr/share/doc/flex
[00:53] <Aleric> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 dec  4  2013 /usr/share/doc/flex -> libfl-dev/
[00:53] <chucara> akem: I can access the same docker container service if I just change the port to 444
[00:55] <akem> chucara, That's weird.
[00:56] <Aleric> rfm: it is definitely broken.
[00:56] <Aleric> lrwxrwxrwx 10 root root    22 feb 22  2018 NEWS.Debian.gz -> ../flex/NEWS.Debian.gz
[00:56] <Aleric> It's a loop. So what you got then?!
[00:58] <akem> Then i don't know.
[00:59] <rfm> Aleric, I have https://termbin.com/n3jx
[00:59] <chucara> akem: Well. At least I'm not completely dumb here then :D
[00:59] <Aleric> rfm: how is that not broken?
[01:00] <rfm> Aleric, so for me /usr/share/doc/flex has the real files and /usr/share/libfl-dev is symlinks to files in ../flex
[01:01] <rfm> Aleric, this works fine, but throw in that symlink you have from flex to libfl-dev and all goes pearshaped
[01:01] <Aleric> What is the output of: ls -ld /usr/share/doc/flex
[01:02] <Aleric> what package is ls -ld /usr/share/doc/flex part of? (I assume flex, but please do: dpkg -S /usr/share/doc/flex)
[01:03] <iKarus987> Hi guys what is the command to see if there is openvpn running in the background?
[01:04] <iKarus987> the command ps does not show anything running in the background
[01:04] <rfm> Aleric, yes, it's flex.  I suspect you should purge flex and all its dependencies, make sure /usr/share/doc/flex is gone, and reinstall
[01:04] <iKarus987> but there is openvpn running i dont know how to spot it, i can confirm it because i am connected to the remote server via vpn
[01:04] <Aleric> ok - I purged flex - deleted both dirs and reinstalled. Now it looks the same as yours.
[01:04] <drkjstr> iKarus987: have you tried: ps aux | grep openvpn
[01:04] <akem> iKarus987, Try: ps fax | grep -i vpn
[01:05] <Aleric> Oh I got to remember ps fax
[01:06] <rfm> Aleric, who knows how you got that mess.. this trick of having doc dirs symlink to each other is common when Debian or Ubuntu has split an upstream distribution into multiple packages...
[01:06] <AlligatorJoe> well i have some other things to work on today so i will say adieu...and reboot into some other headaches that have yet to be resolved...social channels are not for me...anyway the hottest girls in the world are in the video games...like tifa, aeris, princess garnet, yuna, seoul, lynne, rikku, lightning, lara croft, and i'm sure more will be found with a story to tell.
[01:06] <iKarus987> what em i seeing akem please ?
[01:06] <iKarus987> i see lots of openvpn stuff
[01:06] <rfm> Aleric, ... but you seem to have gotten trapped by changing the way the symlinks run...
[01:06] <Aleric> rfm: I'm pretty sure that I never tinkered with that. Must have happened as a result of an apt (dist-)upgrade
[01:07] <rfm> Aleric, yes, looks very like the structures of the packages changed and you got only part of an update at one point...
[01:07] <akem> iKarus987, Every process that includes "vpn" somewhere in the process name.
[01:07] <iKarus987> so these are the things running at the moment?
[01:07] <iKarus987> ...
[01:07] <AlligatorJoe> oh and i dont want to forget quistis..what a girl.
[01:07] <akem> Yeah.
[01:08] <rfm> Aleric, I note in the NEWS that the last change was tinkering with the dependencies
[01:08] <iKarus987> ohh my... that answers my question
[01:08] <iKarus987> akem sorry man but i am new to linux, how do i kill all of them?
[01:08] <Aleric> man killall
[01:08] <iKarus987> ...
[01:09] <iKarus987> i have hard time believing that
[01:09] <iKarus987> aleric nothing personal
[01:09] <Aleric> it opens the manual page of killall
[01:09] <iKarus987> ah k
[01:09] <Aleric> I'm not going to tell you a command that kills stuff
[01:09] <iKarus987> thx
[01:10] <drkjstr> iKarus987: also man kill
[01:10] <iKarus987> kill is like going into task manager?
[01:10] <iKarus987> and ending a process yea?
[01:11] <Aleric> kill sends a signal to a process by PID
[01:11] <Aleric> if that signal is the kill signal, then it kills it.
[01:11] <Aleric> aka, kill -9 4293828
[01:11] <Aleric> would kill process 4293828
[01:11] <iKarus987> the option -9  ?
[01:12] <iKarus987> like force ?
[01:12] <Aleric> that's the hardest kill possible
[01:12] <Aleric> yup
[01:12] <Aleric> certain death
[01:12] <Aleric> if you want it to give it time to maybe shutdown you could try other signals
[01:13] <iKarus987> damn so if i have 27 chrome windows open
[01:13] <iKarus987> "web brwosers"
[01:13] <Aleric> Thats normal unfortunately
[01:13] <iKarus987> i cant not just do "kill google-chrome"
[01:13] <Aleric> I wouldn't do that no
[01:13] <iKarus987> i have to remember those numbers and kill 1 by 1?
[01:13] <Aleric> no, killall kills by name
[01:13] <iKarus987> in windows kill 1 and rest fallow
[01:14] <iKarus987> so "killall ps"
[01:14] <iKarus987> ?
[01:15] <Aleric> killall -9 openvpn
[01:16] <rfm> I don't use openvpn, but I suspect "systemctl stop openvpn.service" would be the first thing to try
[01:19] <hggdh> Aleric: pkill can kill by name; see 'man pkill'; both pkill and kill send (by default) a SIGTERM to the target process. If you want to kill a process, then the *default* signal -- SIGTERM -- should be tried first. IF SIGTERM does not do the trick, then you can try -9 (SIGKILL). But SIGKILL does not give the target process any chance of an orderly shutdown, so kittens may die
[01:20] <hggdh> Aleric: so it is your call. I stringly suggest reading the man pages
[01:20] <Aleric> You mean iKarus987
[01:20] <hggdh> Aleric: I am sorry, I stand corrected :-)
[01:20] <iKarus987> i will take that advice too
[01:21] <iKarus987> :)
[01:21] <iKarus987> thx Aleric
[01:30] <iKarus987> okay i killed all the ouput that i go from ps fax | grep -i openvpn
[01:30] <iKarus987> except i cant kill this
[01:30] <iKarus987>  8035 pts/6    S+     0:00          \_ grep --color=auto -i openvpn
[01:30] <iKarus987> the pid keeps changing
[01:31] <Aleric> lol
[01:31] <hggdh> iKarus987: why would you want to kill grep?
[01:31] <Aleric> That's the command you are executing to print that output
[01:31] <Aleric> ps fax | grep -i openvpn
[01:31] <Aleric>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[01:31] <iKarus987> hmm okay
[01:31] <iKarus987>  8035 pts/6    S+     0:00          \_ grep --color=auto -i openvpn
[01:31] <iKarus987> so from this prespective
[01:32] <iKarus987> what is the name of this process?
[01:32] <hggdh> iKarus987: also, using pgrep instead of grep helps, because the process grep will not be listed
[01:32] <Aleric> Besides, it is 'grep' not openvpn
[01:32] <drkjstr> iKarus987: like Aleric says, that is the grep process you are using to to find the openvpn processes.
[01:32] <iKarus987> i know
[01:32] <iKarus987> now
[01:32] <iKarus987> but how do you know it is that?
[01:33] <iKarus987>  8035 pts/6    S+     0:00          \_ grep --color=auto -i openvpn
[01:33] <iKarus987>  for me openvpn is also there
[01:33] <iKarus987> how you know it belongs to grep?
[01:33] <Aleric> it starts with grep
[01:33] <hggdh> because this the command name. openvpn is a parameter
[01:33] <drkjstr> iKarus987: because of the grep -i openvpn that is listed in it (grep --color=auto -i openvpn)
[01:33] <Aleric> the first is the command, then follow arguments.
[01:34] <iKarus987> for instance i saw these
[01:34] <iKarus987> 29652 ?        S      0:00  |   \_ openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/client.ovpn
[01:34] <Aleric> first is the command
[01:34] <Aleric> so 'openvpn'
[01:34] <iKarus987> okay
[01:34] <iKarus987> 29651 ?        S      0:00  \_ sudo openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/client.ovpn
[01:34] <Aleric> like you'd type it on the command line
[01:34] <iKarus987> and this?
[01:34] <Aleric> Well, sudo is the command here.
[01:35] <iKarus987> so sudo is the process name?
[01:35] <Aleric> yes
[01:35] <iKarus987> wow
[01:35] <Aleric> it starts 'openvpn /etc/openvpn/client/client.ovpn' as root.
[01:35] <Aleric> so I guess the next line was the previous one
[01:35] <blue1> make me a sandwich.  NO.
[01:35] <blue1> sudo make me a sandwich
[01:35] <blue1> ok
[01:35] <iKarus987> i see, very strange
[01:35] <iKarus987> but i can dig it
[01:35] <iKarus987> i have no choice
[01:36] <blue1> sudo is like mother may I
[01:36] <iKarus987> so i can imagine like, sudo is a program
[01:36] <Aleric> Don't confuse him :p
[01:36] <iKarus987> that's running another program?
[01:36] <Aleric> yes
[01:36] <Aleric> It stands for '(as) Super User DO'
[01:37] <iKarus987> that i know :- that's why i am puzzled
[01:37] <iKarus987> now i should not be able to access my remote server testing
[01:37] <iKarus987> killed every openvpn stuff
[01:37] <iKarus987> testing ... :>
[01:38] <iKarus987> nice enabling openvpn again
[01:39] <drkjstr> iKarus987: the equivalent in Windows is the Run as Administrator option. Like when you install a program and asks for administrator privileges. In Linux GUI programs some are smart enough to ask for the privileges. Like when using the Software Center.
[01:40] <iKarus987> so interesting i wanted to test out,, gave wrong command   "openvpn client.opvn"
[01:40] <iKarus987> client.opvn does not exist.
[01:40] <iKarus987> now i checked for fun "ps fax | grep -i openvpn
[01:40] <iKarus987> "
[01:41] <iKarus987> that's process is running
[01:41] <iKarus987> hmm
[01:41] <iKarus987> ofc the the actual openvpn is not running,
[01:41] <iKarus987> so even if you give wrong commands, it's considered as a process you will have to kill?
[01:42] <iKarus987> ahh ok i am dumb
[01:42] <iKarus987> sorry guys, it's grep actually xD
[01:43] <drkjstr> iKarus987: the client.opvn location is /etc/openvpn/client/client.ovpn. It probably is looking for client.opvn in the current directory without the full path to the file.
[01:46] <iKarus987> how do i disown this process
[01:46] <hggdh> iKarus987: again. Use 'pgrep openvpn' instead of 'ps fax | grep -i openvpn'
[01:47] <iKarus987>  8447 pts/6    T      0:00  |       \_ sudo openvpn /home/dope/Desktop/GNS3Opvn/for openvpn/client.ovpn
[01:47] <iKarus987> i wanna detach it from terminal window
[01:47] <iKarus987> i been using "disown %1" it does not work
[01:48] <iKarus987> ahh it works now,  i did 1% instead of %1
[01:49] <iKarus987> ah ok i will try that command instead thanks
[01:49] <iKarus987> ahh it's a shortcut
[01:49] <iKarus987> i like the other output tho hggdh xD
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[01:52] <iKarus987> hggdh why ? :<
[01:52] <pavlos> you should be a ble to kill that process, ... sudo kill -9 8447
[01:56] <pgnd> afaict, gcc-10 is distro-pkg'd only for focal+.  is there a backports repo that builds it for bionic hiding out here somewhere?  or DIY ... ?
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> pgnd: Is there a particular reason that you need a specific version of gcc?
[01:57] <blue1> anyone know how to get a ryzen 3 to work with Linux?
[01:57] <pgnd> yep, lots of em.
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> pgnd: Only the software packages available in the official Ubuntu software repositories are supported here. All software provided is patched against known vulnerabilities and bugs. Ubuntu releases strive for stability, which is why sometimes version do not match the latest a developer offers, however, patches have been applied.
[02:00] <pgnd> not asking for support, just if anyone knows of an available repo -- unofficial or otherwise.  if not, I'll DIY.
[02:00] <pragmaticenigma> pgnd: It's a DIY... volunteers here stick to whats available in the official repos
[02:02] <pgnd> ansible's my friend
[02:06] <bleb> plug exfat hard drive into a mac -> automounts and can be accessed
[02:06] <bleb> plug into ubuntu computer -> nothing
[02:06] <bleb> exfat-utils and exfat-fuse are installed
[02:07] <bleb> as root, running mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt hangs
[02:07] <bleb> is there anything i can try?
[02:07] <bleb> (already tried restarting)
[02:09] <blue1> fsck
[02:10] <blue1> I don't remember what file you have to touch in root to make that happen
[02:10] <pavlos> bleb: sudo mount -t exfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt fails?
[02:11] <blue1> okay here it is:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/353732/how-to-use-fsck-in-ubuntu#353733
[02:11] <blue1> oh exfat?  I think you have to add somethings to make that work
[02:12] <bleb> pavlos: i didn't try -t exfat
[02:12] <bleb> i'll have to try it when i can
[02:12] <blue1> did you install the exfat utils?  sudo apt install exfat-utils
[02:12] <bleb> yes
[02:13] <blue1> yeah the -t exfat may make a difference - I have to do that will ntfs volumes
[02:13] <blue1> well -t ntfs
[02:13] <Bashing-om> bleb: Mac file system ? See: in terminal ' apt show hfsprogs '.
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> Bashing-om: They're trying to work with exfat
[02:14] <Bashing-om> pragmaticenigma: ack :(
[02:15] <blue1> did you check the error log?
[02:16] <blue1> something like:   sudo tail -150 /var/log/syslog | more
[02:21] <lisbeths> what's the command to see what my default version of java is?
[02:22] <pavlos> java --version
[02:25] <lisbeths> Thank you.
[02:29] <bleb> blue1: i did not, and i will have to check later since my only access to this machine is via phone calls with my parents :(
[02:30] <bleb> i tried to set up ssh access and it worked a couple times, but then stopped working.  seems to be some bullshit related to port forwarding on the comcast router...
[02:31] <blue1> bleb: yeah you have to port forward port 22 to the machine
[02:32] <bleb> i did a different port and changed the listening port in sshd_config
[02:33] <bleb> could it be systemd fuckery preventing sshd from listening on the alternative port?
[02:33] <bleb> i assumed it was comcast fuckery
[02:34] <bleb> it did work at least a couple times, albeit sporadically
[02:36] <iKarus987> anyone ever used gns3 with ubuntu?
[02:36] <bleb> lol it was comcast
[02:37] <drkjstr> bleb: I've successfully used Comcast router/modems to forward custom SSH port traffic. Are you using a dynamic DNS service to track any changes in IP from the ISP?
[02:37] <bleb> the xfinity user site says "there were attempts to access nuc5cpyh from a known malicious source. We've blocked 3 of those this week.
[02:37] <bleb> this is part of the innovative "easier than ever" decision to force you to manage port forwarding through the myxfi (web)app instead of just doing it directly on the router
[02:38] <bleb> sshing from a ramnode vps is a "known malicious source"
[02:38] <drkjstr> bleb: Yes. I had to do it through that. And, you might need to turn off the Advanced Protection option.
[02:39] <bleb> drkjstr: how do you do that
[02:39] <drkjstr> bleb: You download the mobile app. Login with the credentials for the account. Should be under Network, Advanced.
[02:40] <help_me_pls> Hello, how to save my nvidia settings in 19.10 ? I put 144hz but when I go off for 5min and come back and login its 60hz again
[02:40] <Sc0utonLinux> Hello is it possible to create a raid 0 network drive accross two ubuntu servers that can be used on a 3rd ubuntu desktop as a single network drive ?
[02:41] <Woet> Sc0utonLinux: that sounds absolutely insane.
[02:43] <Sc0utonLinux> Woet, great :D
[02:43] <bleb> drkjstr: i don't have apps but i have a web browser and there seems to be a myxfi web app
[02:43] <drkjstr> Sc0utonLinux: I've heard of stuff like that using JBODs on Windows as a clustered share, I would thionk it would have to be something similar, but I have no pointers.
[02:44] <drkjstr> bleb: That might work, I primarily did it through the mobile app.
[02:45] <Sc0utonLinux> my reasoning .. would be to get double write and read speed out of a network drive accross connected to two identical pcs
[02:45] <Sc0utonLinux> a like boosted nas
[02:46] <drkjstr> Sc0utonLinux: Yeah, I get that. One of my old companies used the setup as a MS based hyper-flex environment. Again, I have no pointers for Linux.
[02:46] <pgnd> Sc0utonLinux: it's certainly doable ... using network block devices. great way to shoot holes in your own feet, imo.  you're completely ignoring net latency/etc ...
[02:46] <pgnd> disks are cheap. get a NAS.
[02:47] <Twist> Does anyone know offhand why KVM (qemu-system-x86) might be running at 100% CPU? I set this up with gnome boxes, if that matters.
[02:47] <help_me_pls> Hello, how to save my nvidia settings in 19.10 ? I put 144hz but when I go off for 5min and come back and login its 60hz again
[02:47] <Twist> The guest shows under 5% CPU, so it's not windows running amok.
[02:48] <Sc0utonLinux> pgnd well I have two old pcs each with a 320 GB hd (bare bones) .. i was hoping to create a 640 gb network nas out of them
[02:48] <Sc0utonLinux> I like trying to reuse stuff I already have rather than buying new things :D
[02:48] <help_me_pls> Sc0utonLinux lul why dont u just connect them to one pc as raid 0?
[02:48] <Sc0utonLinux> out of principle you know
[02:49] <Sc0utonLinux> well because then that pc would need to be on for all the other pcs on the network to access it
[02:49] <Sc0utonLinux> and my bare bones use the least amount of electricity
[02:49] <Woet> Sc0utonLinux: then put both drives in one of your "bare bones"
[02:49] <Sc0utonLinux> mz proper pcs have like 1000w psus
[02:49] <Woet> if you want performance, don't use networked RAID 0 drives..
[02:50] <Sc0utonLinux> i don't know if bare bones is the right word they are like mini pcs with atom processors that pull hardly any power
[02:50] <help_me_pls> Sc0utonLinux having a 1000w psu doesnt mean u are using 1000w
[02:50] <Sc0utonLinux> they only have 1 sata port each
[02:50] <bleb> drkjstr: yeah i found it in the web app.  waiting for the changes to propagate now.
[02:51] <Sc0utonLinux> I actually have 3 of them .. i took out one Sata and added it to an old USB sata controller I had.. you think would be better to create a raid out of that and just connect a single PC to the network as nas for higher speed?
[02:52] <drkjstr> bleb: Awesome. Hope that will help out.
[02:52] <pgnd> well, i guess some folks _do_ strap rocket engines onto cars to make 'em go faster ...
[02:52] <Sc0utonLinux> help_me_pls, true .. but all the attached PCi cards such as GFX card and the watercooling pump and lights and bells and whistles I have on it pulls power :)
[02:52] <Sc0utonLinux> CPU .. ect
[02:52] <Sc0utonLinux> pgnd haha :D
[02:53] <help_me_pls> so disconnect extra lights  etc? your gfx is not gonna be calculating by itself just by being conneted
[02:54] <iKarus987> Escape character is '^]'.
[02:54] <iKarus987> what does this mean?
[02:54] <iKarus987> does it mean to press a button?
[02:55] <drkjstr> iKarus987: pretty sure that is the CTRL key
[02:55] <Sc0utonLinux> help_me_pls, Well I use that pc for the GFX its my main computer ..for gaming and so on .. i just need a NAS for shared network access for my other devices .. backups .. media storage ect so dont want to change my main desktop setup >D
[02:55] <iKarus987> ctrl key not doing anything
[02:56] <help_me_pls> try Ctrl ] for ^].
[02:56] <drkjstr> Sc0utonLinux: I would look into using the drives in one machine to create a DIY NAS, than to try and make a storage cluster.
[02:56] <drkjstr> iKarus987: What help_me_pls said. You would do the CTRL and the ]
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> !ot | drkjstr Sc0utonLinux
[02:58] <Sc0utonLinux> lotuspsychje, yeah i guess my question is not specific enough about ubuntu .. although i wanted to know if it was specifically possible on ubuntu .. if there are such packages to allow me to make a nework raid
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> Sc0utonLinux: reccomends & discussions try #ubuntu-discuss
[03:00] <Sc0utonLinux> lotuspsychje, ill check it out !
[03:00] <Sc0utonLinux> thank you all anyway :)
[03:00] <Sc0utonLinux> I think I have the basic info i was looking for anyway :)
[03:03] <help_me_pls> How do I save my nvidia settings in 19.10 ? I put 144hz but when I go off for 5min and come back and login its 60hz again
[03:03] <golden_ticket> When I close my laptop the screen turns black and wont wake back up (after I have reopened it, obviously). Can anyone help me figure out what's going on and how to fix it?
[03:11] <iKarus987> help_me_pls tell me more about this
[03:11] <iKarus987> i installed today  ubuntu
[03:11] <iKarus987> all i did was install some nvidia driver
[03:11] <iKarus987> the things is sitll choppy when i move boxes around
[03:12] <iKarus987> you have to do more magic ? to make it smoother
[03:12] <Stealthy> ubuntu 18.04 -- how can i make sure that i'm currently using the IGP instead of my 1060?
[03:12] <help_me_pls> like when i open nvidia-settings in terminal and chant auto to 144hz then it looks good. but when it goes to sleep/restarts its at 60hz again i can feel it
[03:12] <help_me_pls> *change
[03:19] <Aaaaand> Hi, I have trouble connecting to a VPN. It's a L2TP/IPsec with preshared key, using MSCHAPv2 as authentication method. I'm running Ubuntu 18.04, I've installed Libreswan, network-manager-l2tp and network-manager-l2tp-gnome. I now have the option to add an l2tp connection in the GUI, but I can't make the connection. Anybody knows more about it?
[03:22] <Aaaaand> Tried adding some phase algo's in the ipsec options, nothing works
[03:30] <iKarus987> org.gnome.desktop.background is that a location ?
[03:38] <bleb> blue1: fyi i got access to the ubuntu box
[03:38] <bleb> the one that was having trouble mounting an exfat hard drive
[03:38] <bleb> uninstalled and reinstalled exfat-utils and exfat-fuse
[03:38] <bleb> same behavior
[03:39] <bleb> and i don't see any errors in tail -150 /var/log/syslog
[03:41] <bleb> what was it i should try?
[03:41] <bleb> fscking the exfat drive?
[03:43] <bleb> i have a couple mount processes that are refusing to exit
[03:44] <bleb> in ps aux: root      1711  0.0  0.0  32908  1364 ?        D    20:28   0:00 mount /dev/sdb
[03:44] <bleb> 1 /home/cm/mnt
[03:44] <bleb> root      2342  0.0  0.0  32908  1280 pts/1    D+   23:32   0:00 mount /dev/sdb
[03:44] <bleb> 1 /mnt
[03:44] <bleb> kill -9 1711 does not stop the process
[03:44] <bleb> kill -9 2342 doesnt stop that process either
[03:44] <bleb> one of them is hanging in my ssh session
[03:45] <bleb> the other one was started in some terminal that has since closed
[03:45] <bleb> i'm guessing i need to kill these processes but how?
[03:47] <hay207> I m in love
[03:47] <hay207> with ubuntu
[03:56] <M_aD> hay207: that's great but keep in mind that this is a support channel :)   In #ubuntu-offtopic you can chitchat about anything as much as you like ;)
[03:57] <hay207> That's all i wanted to say
[04:08] <rando181214> hi
[04:08] <rando181214> i need tech support
[04:09] <SlidingHorn> rando181214: feel free to ask your question in as much detail as possible, and preferably all on one line if possible
[04:09] <rando181214> ty
[04:09] <hay207> When updating linux, should i install headers+image package because i noticed they are not dependent on each other
[04:10] <rando181214> so i managed to get a usb with ubuntu, booted and installed with the option to use LVM. but i realised i could get encryption for specific parts. so i restarted, but i restarted mid install
[04:10] <rando181214> now i cant boot LOL
[04:10] <rando181214> it says "something went seriously wrong"
[04:10] <rando181214> then
[04:11] <rando181214> import_mok_state() failed
[04:11] <rando181214> two questions: does installing change the data on my usb, and also how do i wipe my hard drive
[04:15] <rando181214> :)
[04:15] <rando181214> still here
[04:16] <hay207> So, you can not boot from usb anymore?
[04:16] <rando181214> no
[04:16] <rando181214> it just says "import_mok_state() failed"
[04:16] <rando181214> and then turns off again
[04:17] <rando181214> i enabled LVM and encrypted my hard drive but realised i didnt need to, and turned off my laptop while still in the installation process
[04:18] <AlexPortable> is there any way to resize a terminal more than the screen size?
[04:26] <hay207> Found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1085550/cant-install-ubuntu-18-10-on-xps-15-efi-boot-mmx64-efi-not-found
[04:26] <hay207> But i guess he went
[04:29] <hay207> AlexPortable: which desktop environment?
[04:29] <hay207> kde?
[04:30] <AlexPortable> gnome
[04:31] <hay207> press Alt then move window
[04:31] <hay207> Hold Alt
[04:31] <AlexPortable> yes but then i have to drag it a bit
[04:31] <AlexPortable> every time
[04:31] <AlexPortable> drag it off screen, make it a tiny bit bigger
[04:31] <AlexPortable> drag it again
[04:31] <AlexPortable> i tried resize -s 500 500, but this seems to limit the window size to my resolution
[04:33] <hay207> How to resize bigger than screen without dragging?
[04:33] <AlexPortable> yes
[04:34] <hay207> You want a scroll bar?
[04:34] <hay207> Im asking
[04:34] <AlexPortable> no
[04:34] <AlexPortable> i just want it higher resolution
[04:34] <hay207> oh
[04:35] <AlexPortable> trying to make a screenshot of top with 4k resolution, currently using 800x640
[04:35] <AlexPortable> i have the screenshot part sorted out, but it's limited by the terminal size
[04:36] <hay207> Is it terminal/tty console?
[04:37] <AlexPortable> terminal yes
[04:39] <hay207> I found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/58379/how-can-i-permanently-change-the-text-size-for-gnome-terminal
[04:39] <hay207> But this changes only font size i guess
[04:41] <AlexPortable> yep not what im looking for
[04:45] <golden_ticket> Anyone have any idea on how to fix this hibernation issue?
[04:46] <hay207> AlexPortable: Is this what you want?
[04:46] <hay207> https://superuser.com/questions/950794/per-application-window-scaling-in-xorg-for-high-dpi-display
[04:47] <OERIAS> Hi everyone, I need help
[04:47] <OERIAS> my bluetooth is not working
[04:47] <OERIAS> is there a way to activate it?
[04:47] <TJ-> AlexPortable: sounds like taking a screenshot is not what you want; what you need is something that captures the entire content of a text console
[04:48] <TJ-> OERIAS: "not working" isn't very useful - what specifically have you tried? what investigations have you done?
[04:49] <hay207> You can capture contents of a window using spectacle / other program
[04:52] <hay207> Which screenshot program you using AlexPortable?
[04:56] <hay207> Wow, i tried to capture size larger than screen, failed
[04:58] <hay207> Can he send output of top to a file?
[04:59] <TJ-> I'd use tmux or screen and capture the text not a bitmap
[05:04] <kinghat> should an user scoped app be installed to ~/local/share/application/ or ~/local/bin/application/?
[05:04] <kinghat> nothing ive installed on my system has used ~/local/bin as i dont have that dir.
[05:10] <iKarus987> hi guys i am on ubuntu
[05:10] <iKarus987> i'm trying to unpack .tar.gz zip file
[05:10] <iKarus987> how do i do it ? i dont wanna use the gui
[05:12] <OERIAS> TJ-, well it is true, It isn't working
[05:13] <OERIAS> I am not able to connect a pair of bluetooth devices like headphones
[05:17] <TJ-> OERIAS: 1. Does the kernel recognise the bluetooth hardware? 2. Does the kernel create an HCI device for the hardware? 3. is kernel loading firmware for the driver? 4. can the bluetooth daemon talk to the hardware?
[05:17] <OERIAS> I just fixed it
[05:17] <TJ-> OERIAS: 5. Are other BT devices connecting (is it just this device) ?
[05:17] <OERIAS> turns out the latest update fixed the issue
[06:04] <SlidingHorn> iKarus987: tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
[06:05] <SlidingHorn> iKarus987: for more information, enter    man tar    in a terminal and read up
[07:30] <steve07> hi
[07:30] <sumagna> hi
[07:35] <guiverc> sumagna, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (try and keep to a single line & someone will answer when they can)
[07:36] <sumagna> i just said hi to steve
[07:36] <sumagna> because he said hi
[07:36] <sumagna> i dont have a question
[07:37]  * guiverc scared another one off :(
[07:39] <sumagna> what?
[07:39] <sumagna> if you are talking about me, then i was not scared
[07:39] <sumagna> i was fixing something
[07:39] <a|ien> So I just turned on my Ubuntu desktop fileserver after being off two weeks. It is now prompting me for a password before it will allow me to access my data drives but will not accept my admin/account password. I have no clue what changed or happened. Can anyone tell me why my OS is posessed?
[07:43] <a|ien> Actually, it looks like the only user account on the system lost its sudo access. How is this possible? I am the only person using this machine and it has not even been on a network since its last use.
[07:45] <a|ien> anyone? hello?
[07:46] <sumagna> is this a server or a desktop version of ubuntu?
[07:46] <SwedeMike> sumagna: both.
[07:46] <a|ien> desktop
[07:47] <sumagna> press ctrl+alt+f2
[07:47] <a|ien> just a machine i use for filesharing
[07:47] <sumagna> btw where are you doing this messaging stuff from?
[07:47] <a|ien> it just says my account is no longer a member of the sudo group
[07:48] <a|ien> I dont understand the question
[07:48] <eliyahuTBR> morning all. somehow my pulseaudio isn't running on start up. how do i change that?
[07:48] <a|ien> doing what messaging stuff?
[07:48] <sumagna> are connected to this channel from another computer/
[07:48] <sumagna> ?
[07:48] <a|ien> yes
[07:48] <eliyahuTBR> nor do my speakers at all. only headphones
[07:48] <a|ien> the fileserver is physically next to me
[07:49] <eliyahuTBR> even after i manunally start pulseaudio
[07:49] <a|ien> and on my local network
[07:49] <sumagna> press ctrl+alt+f2 on it
[07:49] <sumagna> the desktop i mean
[07:49] <a|ien> thats just a login screen
[07:49] <a|ien> i can login to the console, to the desktop, via SSH
[07:49] <a|ien> i just lost my sudo permissions
[07:49] <cixx> how can i disabled screen lock on privacy settings but it already shows date time screen after a while
[07:50] <cixx> what should i disable that date time screen(possibly screen saver, i am not sure)
[07:50] <sumagna> ctrl+alt+f2 can be pressed from anywhere
[07:51] <a|ien> right, and all that does is bring me to a new shell prompt
[07:51] <a|ien> is it supposed to do something else?
[07:51] <sumagna> write your username first
[07:51] <a|ien> ive been using linux for 20 years, i know how to log on :/
[07:52] <a|ien> i know i can go into the recovery prompt and re-add myself that way, im just not understanding how i could suddenly lose access on a machine thats been powered down for 2 weeks
[07:52] <sumagna> there you login and see what you can do
[07:52] <a|ien> im logged in
[07:53] <a|ien> geo@vette:~$ sudo su
[07:53] <a|ien> [sudo] password for geo:
[07:53] <a|ien> geo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:53] <a|ien> this is the problem
[07:53] <sumagna> Ohh
[07:54] <a|ien> im trying to figure out what could have happened to cause the only user account on the system to suddenly lose its sudo access
[07:54] <a|ien> so it doesnt happen again
[07:54] <sumagna> first you fix it
[07:54] <sumagna> then you see what happened
[07:58] <a|ien> sudo is fixed
[07:58] <a|ien> now how do i figure out what went wrong?
[07:59] <a|ien> it was literally powered down from a fully working state /
[08:00] <sumagna> fixed?
[08:00] <sumagna> Oog
[08:00] <a|ien> i readded my account to sudo
[08:00] <sumagna> https://www.tecmint.com/fix-user-is-not-in-the-sudoers-file-the-incident-will-be-reported-ubuntu/
[08:00] <sumagna> read this
[08:01] <sumagna> it lists some things that might have happened
[08:04] <a|ien> none of those things could have happened
[08:04] <a|ien> the machine was powered down from a fully functional state, no permission issues, and i for sure didnt remove myself from sudo
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: ask an ubuntu related question all in one line, then wait patiently till volunteers help you
[08:05] <a|ien> im having a conversation with someone that is helping me
[08:05] <a|ien> what are you talking about?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: keep things divided bewteen discussion and actual support please
[08:06] <a|ien> im trying to figure out how this happened
[08:06] <a|ien> how the hell do i do that without having a conversation?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: figure out in silence, till your next ubuntu question
[08:07] <a|ien> the question is, what caused UBUNTU to remove my sudo on its own
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: you already akes that, now patiently wait
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> asked
[08:07] <a|ien> the link i was given in response described 3 ways it could have happened, im explaining that that those things did not happen
[08:07] <a|ien> I was having a conversaion with sumanga about it
[08:08] <a|ien> i dont know why you have to step in and be a dick about it
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: plz mind your language too
[08:08] <a|ien> I am
[08:08] <guiverc> a|ien, you'll get more responses with honey (not vinegar), and not spamming all of us.
[08:08] <mkquist> lotuspsychje: he was
[08:08] <a|ien> if i wasnt minding my language i would called you something much worse
[08:09] <a|ien> you are just being rude for arguements sake, if you dont have something to add to what I am asking you should just put me on ignore and not worry about me
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> a|ien: feel free to discuss this more in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:09] <a|ien> last i checked the topic says this is the support channel
[08:10] <a|ien> support usually calls for more than a single question and a single answer to wrap it all up neatly
[09:04] <dunams> hi, can someone advise how to create a local domain dev certificate to be trusted by chrome? (dev.domain.com for example)
[09:28] <BromaxSux> hi aLL
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome BromaxSux
[09:45] <lapion> So how can I prevent my laptop from having to redetect every display connected to it whenever it the displays up from powerdown ?
[10:19] <jarnos> Anyone running 18.04 or 16.04 (which?) can you tell the output of `/bin/kill -l QUIT; /bin/kill -l 3` ?
[10:30] <SwedeMike> jarnos: 18.04 says they correlate
[10:30] <SwedeMike> jarnos: so I get 3 vs QUIT
[10:33] <jarnos> SwedeMike, thanks
[10:35] <jarnos> SwedeMike, I know that this did not work in Ubuntu 14.04
[10:39] <oerheks> interesting, someone actually uses that command.
[10:53] <cixx> h'/
[10:53] <cixx> hi.
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:54] <cixx> my first internet connection requests always slow
[10:54] <cixx> after the first connection, it works normally
[10:54] <cixx> what should i check to find the problem
[10:54] <oerheks> why is it a problem?
[10:57] <cixx> because my first request was not slow before on any other operating systems
[10:57] <cixx> and it is not a good thing
[11:00] <jarnos> oerheks, https://stackoverflow.com/a/29383998/4414935
[11:02] <oerheks> jarnos, hence i wondered why ..
[11:13] <woenx> Hi. I am using Thunderbird in Ubuntu 18.04 in Unity. Does anyone know if there is an indicator to show the number of unread email? I know there was in the past, but not anymore. Thanks.
[11:14] <jaakkos> Anyone else experiencing resume-from-suspend problems on X1 Carbon 7th gen or similar, Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS? I'm getting black screen when I open the lid, and nothing happens until I hard-reboot with 4sec power button press. This used to happen "sometimes" before but after latest upgrades it seems to be 100% of the time.
[11:14] <oerheks> https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/enhanced-desktop-notifications/
[11:14] <asphyxia> hey guys, I'm trying to find out how much space I have left on my hdd. I ran df -h, but it only brings up info about loop drives, and not my drive which I want which is encrypted... would that be why it can't tell how much space is left?
[11:15] <woenx> oerheks: thanks. Although that only works with older version of thunderbird, and I already receive notification of new mail. I was looking for someting to show the unread message count on the icon itself
[11:15] <woenx> (it was like this in the past)
[11:16] <jaakkos> For some background, my configuration is pretty much "defaults" except for setting "Sleep state support" = Linux in UEFI; encrypted LVM + ZFS /home; dual-boot with Windows with UEFI
[11:16] <cixx> is there shortcut to go to desktop on centos 7? i tried ctrl + alt + d but it didn't work for me
[11:18] <ducasse> cixx: try #centos, not here
[11:20] <livingbeef> Yo. Is there some official-ish ppa for thunderbird?
[11:20] <oerheks> cixx, you keep comming back with centos questions.. please do not abuse our volunteers
[11:20] <oerheks> stupid is a choise
[11:21] <livingbeef> I need to migrate a thunderbird profile, but the version on ubuntu is too old, I'll need some newer version of thunderbird
[11:21] <livingbeef> (18.04)
[11:21] <oerheks> there is a thunderbird snap
[11:22] <cixx> just wrong channel.. i have both ubuntu and centos to try ansible
[11:22] <livingbeef> Ah. I'll try that, thanks
[11:22] <oerheks> not that different, 68.4.1/2 https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird
[11:23] <livingbeef> hmm, snap has beta and edge; beta is the more stable one, right?
[11:24] <oerheks> yes.
[11:24] <livingbeef> it's possible that it's just one minor version behind. I'm migrating from gentoo, which afaik follows the official stable releasees qutie quickly
[11:25] <oerheks> 18.04 aims for stable.
[11:26] <oerheks> so no, i see no huge version jump in our repos https://launchpad.net/thunderbird/+packages
[11:26] <livingbeef> Yeah. Stable can still follow the official lts thunderbird release closely
[11:27] <livingbeef> not that I mind too much
[11:29] <cannabis_indica> livingbeef: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.mozilla.Thunderbird [ flatpak version is 68.6.0 ]
[11:30] <cannabis_indica> livingbeef: snap has a version as well
[11:33] <livingbeef> hmm, it doesn't look like the snap version uses ~/.thunderbird
[11:33] <oerheks> libnotify-mozilla in the repos?
[11:35] <livingbeef> nvm, got it, it's in ~/snap
[12:03] <Bomber4Chats> I'm using linux mate, I'm using a headset with an in-built microphone. It's not being detected in pulse. any suggestions how to fix?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: whats your current kernel version please?
[12:07] <Bomber4Chats> 4.15.0-92-generic
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: sudo lshw -C sound , shows your driver= loaded at bottom?
[12:08] <Bomber4Chats> driver=snd_hda_intel
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: did it work before on your current install?
[12:09] <eliyahuTBR> morning all. somehow my pulseaudio isn't running on start up. how do i change that?
[12:09] <eliyahuTBR> nor do my speakers at all. only headphones
[12:09] <eliyahuTBR> even after i manunally start pulseaudio
[12:09] <Bomber4Chats> i'm not. don't think so
[12:09] <Bomber4Chats> i'm not sure*
[12:10] <eliyahuTBR> happy to be pointed at any relevant resources
[12:10] <oerheks> this is an annoying current bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867803
[12:10] <oerheks> for some, a fix for audio ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1218041/ubuntu-18-04-audio-disappeared-after-update/1218063#1218063
[12:11] <eliyahuTBR> well, it makes me feel better (somewhat) to know that its not just me
[12:12] <oerheks> roll back a kernel, selecting in grub
[12:12] <eliyahuTBR> how do i check my kernel version and roll it back if possible? this is effecting my work (since I'm working from home)
[12:13] <oerheks> uname -a # shows your current.
[12:15] <eliyahuTBR> 5.0.0-1043-oem-osp1 #48-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 12 09:53:48 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:15] <eliyahuTBR> seems like that probably isn't my issue
[12:16] <eliyahuTBR> and how often does ubutnu update the kernal?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> eliyahuTBR: when its out
[12:17] <eliyahuTBR> sorry. wasn't thinking. i'm on the stable release
[12:17] <eliyahuTBR> or whatever its called
[12:17] <BluesKaj> eliyahuTBR, which audio device/soundcard are you using ? sudo lshw -C sound
[12:17] <oerheks> oke, no !hwe enabled
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: journalctl -f and plug out/back in your headset, see if you get errors?
[12:18] <eliyahuTBR> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8YMKNgYrCn/
[12:18] <Bomber4Chats> lotuspsychje non
[12:20] <Bomber4Chats> the internal microphone of the headphone works, for example when I connect it to my phone.
[12:20] <Bomber4Chats> just not detected on my laptopt
[12:21] <oerheks> Bomber4Chats, so, is it a headphone with 1 plug?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> eliyahuTBR, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure relevant vol ctls are not muted including automute which should be disabled
[12:21] <oerheks> maybe your laptop uses a mic port seperatly
[12:21] <oerheks> hardware issue, not software
[12:27] <ailion> How to do-release-upgrade in chroot environment?
[12:28] <ailion> I got an error "Must be connected to a terminal".
[12:28] <eliyahuTBR> is there a way to roll my system back by a week?
[12:31] <oerheks> alina, no
[12:34] <BluesKaj> eliyahuTBR, why do you ask ?
[12:35] <ailion> eliyahuTBR: You may find old kernels in /boot if you didn't run 'apt autoclean'.
[12:35] <ailion> If that's the case, 'apt install linux-image-xxx' may help you out.
[12:37] <ailion> The pre-assumption is that the issue is caused by kernel or kernel modules that bound to this specific version.
[12:38] <chucara> Hi guys. Can anyone help me solve a conundrom. If I run 'python3 -m http.server 443' I can only access it from within the server itself, but not from other machines. Anyone other port works fine. (Ubuntu Server 18.04 LTS)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> eliyahuTBR, I forgot to mention, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, (this is an old bug that's never really been fixed)  then you need to reboot to make sure the driver loads
[12:39] <ailion> chucara: very likely to be a firewall issue
[12:39] <ailion> 'sudo ufw status'
[12:40] <chucara> ailion: sudo ufw status -> Status: inactive
[12:40] <ailion> emmm 443 https
[12:41] <ailion> do you have SSL correctly installed and configured?
[12:41] <chucara> That is the original problem I'm trying to solve. I have letsencrypt working with traefik on docker, but I simply cannot get a response out of port 443
[12:42] <chucara> I figured that the port should work regardless of traffic. But I'm not 100% on how curl works. Still, I can do it from localhost.
[12:46] <ailion> I don't know much about python but https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ may help with the SSL issues.
[12:49] <chucara> python was just to expose a service on that port. I could be anything, really.
[12:54] <akem> chucara, You can test your port with netcat.
[12:55] <akem> chucara, disable docker or anything listening on port 443, then run: "sudo nc -l 443" on the server. Then on another machine type: "nc <SERVER_IP> 443" then enter some text with return.
[12:56] <akem> It should display the text on the server in the terminal where you started the "nc -l ..." .
[12:57] <chucara> akem: Ok, will try that.
[12:58] <akem> If it works it means the problem is with docker itself.
[12:59] <chucara> akem: Nope, that doesn't work
[13:00] <akem> chucara, Try "nc 127.0.0.1 443" in another terminal on the server to see if it works in loopback.
[13:02] <chucara> Hm.. It doesn't. I take it I'm doing something incorrectly then.
[13:02] <akem> Yeah, you can test another with another port too.
[13:03] <chucara> However it does take longer if the "backend" service is running
[13:03] <akem> I was thinking maybe your router is filtering port 443, because of what you told me yesterday.
[13:04] <chucara> I have another machine with 443 working with SSL and all. So at least not externally.
[13:05] <chucara> I just changed the IP of the firewall rule to my new server
[13:06] <chucara> Oh wait. I'm an idiot. :p
[13:06] <chucara> I though the text was supposed to be a command line argument - not that it started an interactive session
[13:07] <akem> Yeah, sort of like telnet.
[13:07] <chucara> 443 works fine. Though I need to sudo the command to run on 443, but not other ports
[13:08] <chucara> But it only works locally though
[13:08] <akem> Yeah, all ports < ~1024 needs root.
[13:08] <chucara> Makes sense
[13:09] <akem> If it works only in loopback it has to do with your firewall or router then.
[13:09] <akem> Check port 444.
[13:09] <akem> If it works from the other machine.
[13:10] <chucara> Yup - something is blocking 443 externally.
[13:11] <chucara> But specifically for this machine, which seems unlikely.
[13:14] <akem> Sounds like the only option. You got something blocking port 443 on your network.
[13:17] <chucara> It's just strange that it works in the other direction. If I do a nc out from my new server into my old, it works fine.
[13:21] <akem> chucara, Don't you have some port forwarding rule or mapping or something on your router somewhere?
[13:21] <chucara> akem: Sure, there is NAT against my public IP, but this is all internally within my LAN
[13:22] <akem> Yeah i know, but if you have anything related to port 443, or HTTP/HTTPS i suggest try to disable it, and test again with netcat.
[13:24] <chucara> I will try to check later. Thanks a lot of your help. If nothing else, I have narrowed down what the problem is. And can definitely exclude docker as a cause.
[13:24] <akem> Yeah. Np.
[13:24] <chucara> I have kids yelling at me so it'll have to wait. :D
[13:37] <iKarus987> Hi what pdf programs are good
[13:37] <iKarus987> in linux >.
[13:37] <iKarus987> i just seen adobe does not support linux i checked that on the official page
[13:38] <lemoldu> iKarus987, you should already have a pdf program in ubuntu
[13:38] <lemoldu> I use Atril
[13:39] <xskyz> I use default gnome pdf viewer
[13:39] <akem> And Evince i think.
[13:39] <xskyz> I think it is called evince
[13:39] <akem> Yeah.
[13:39] <akem> It works great.
[13:40] <oerheks> i have no reason to switch, from evince standard
[13:40] <oerheks> but sure, try something else? tons of them in softwarecenter
[13:42] <Aleric> My partitions are running full :/.  What is a good harddisk these days?  Should I buy SSD? For which partitions?
[13:45] <sumagna> i am setting up ssh for remote access
[13:47] <sumagna> but what address to give to the ListenAddress in sshd_config file?
[13:48] <akem> Aleric, SSDs are faster, but more expensive, if you got your / onto it, programs will load faster, but maybe you should try #hardware or something like that.
[13:49] <sumagna> what should i give?
[13:49] <skookum> sumagna: do you have a reason to limit which interface is listening for connections?
[13:49] <skookum> because by default it will listen on all interfaces.
[13:50] <sumagna> i am trying to connect from an app on my phone
[13:51] <skookum> You won't need a listen address on your phone unless you are trying to connect to the phone.
[13:51] <sumagna> the apps name is juicessh
[13:51] <skookum> so you should be able to give 127.0.0.1 for localhost, or 0.0.0.0 for all interfaces
[13:52] <sumagna> btw what should be in place of username?
[13:53] <skookum> sumagna: it should be the username that you have on the computer you are connecting to
[13:54] <oerheks> we have a good wiki for ssh server and client stuff
[13:54] <sumagna> please give me the link
[13:54] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html .. you did not look for it?
[13:55] <skookum> oerheks: this one probably more so: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/ConnectingTo
[13:59] <lestac> hello! anyone have some "index" of begginer tutorials in ubuntu? thanks :)
[14:01] <oerheks> lestac, tons of wiki pages on help.ubuntu.com, blogs about what to do first on your XX.YY ubuntu install
[14:02] <lestac> thanks oerheks!
[14:04] <oerheks> omgubuntu, askubuntu, and hang in here for some interesting Questions and Answers
[14:04] <oerheks> that is how i started
[14:05] <oerheks> lestac, oke 1 tip from me; install synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter :-)
[14:05] <oerheks> !info synaptic
[14:05] <oerheks> that is how you find extra stuff, or dedicated country packages
[14:07] <lestac> oerheks installing and searching, thanks!
[14:28] <R0b0t1``> so I install kubuntu onto an x200
[14:28] <R0b0t1``> it won't boot
[14:31] <oerheks> Rothe arch wiki gives some clues https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X200
[14:32] <oerheks> not my choice for linux
[14:33] <oerheks> acpi_osi=Linux comes back in any guide, as grub boot parameter
[14:35] <iKarus987> guys i am using Steam to comunicate to my friend using voice chat, he is in windows. SInce i went over to ubuntu and he still on windows. Our voice communication keeps skipping
[14:36] <iKarus987> we keep getting disconnected
[14:36] <iKarus987> anyone know the reason?
[14:36] <oerheks> there is a dedicated channel for steam issues
[14:36] <oerheks> ##steam or #steam ?
[14:37] <iKarus987> join #steam
[14:37] <oerheks> it is not our binairy blob :-P
[14:37] <iKarus987> join ##steam
[14:38] <sixwheeledbeast> maybe #ubuntu-steam ?
[14:42] <leshaste> printing from firefox is taking 5+ minutes to start. From top I can see gs at 100%. Is there any way to speed this up?
[14:43] <elias_a> R0b0t1``: I am running Ubuntu 18.04 on X201 without problems.
[14:43] <oerheks> depends what you want to print, complicated jobs can take some time
[14:44] <R0b0t1``> elias_a: this was prepped by a third party. it just doesn't seem to see the disk. I put a 1tb ssd in it.
[14:44] <R0b0t1``> compatibility issues?
[14:46] <R0b0t1``> notably the bios does not seem to give me the option of a grub command line
[14:46] <R0b0t1``> so I can't change kernel line
[14:46] <R0b0t1``> mfw
[14:46] <AlexPortable> TJ-: well that's what im doing. but the output of the terminal is limited to the physical size of it (for example 24x80)
[14:53] <TJ-> AlexPortable: can you use 'stty' to set the terminal cols rows ?
[14:53] <elias_a> R0b0t1``: I am not sure what you mean. Can you see the SSD in BIOS settings?
[15:05] <R0b0t1``> elias_a: bios was replaced with libreboot, unsure
[15:06] <oerheks> i have his feeling your issue is not about ubuntu at all, R0b0t1``
[15:07] <R0b0t1``> no... it probably is
[15:07] <R0b0t1``> I just have no idea what the developers did
[15:07] <R0b0t1``> and, probably, neither do they
[15:08] <oerheks> you blame ubuntu developers?
[15:08] <R0b0t1``> kind of. something changed, no one has any idea what, and this computer no longer works
[15:08] <oerheks> lolz
[15:08] <R0b0t1``> has happened before. mostly systemd related.
[15:09] <R0b0t1``> inasmuch as ubuntu developers like systemd, then yes they are to blame also
[15:09] <R0b0t1``> contacted mfr. to see if they did anything weird with libreboot install
[15:10] <elias_a> R0b0t1``: Ok. In that case I'd say it is more a libreboot issue.
[15:11] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: as far as I am aware the Kubuntu installer has no knowledge of coreboot/libreboot. libreboot contains GRUB as a payload
[15:11] <R0b0t1``> libreboot targets something like 4-5 devices in depth, I am kind of assuming it's not a libreboot issue for a reason
[15:11] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: see https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/
[15:12] <R0b0t1``> someone mentioned an acpi thing
[15:12] <R0b0t1``> yeah chainloading should work
[15:12] <R0b0t1``> (it doesn't)
[15:12] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: In libreboot the grub.cfg is stored *inside* the Flash firmware chip
[15:13] <R0b0t1``> ik
[15:13] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: so Kubuntu cannot do anything about that, cannot add itself to that config
[15:13] <R0b0t1``> ik, there is option to chainload first disk
[15:13] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: there's info here about setting up for Debian that may help  https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/encrypted_debian.html
[15:14] <R0b0t1``> I can DVD/CD boot just fine for some reason
[15:14] <TJ-> "Don’t forget to have grub-coreboot package installed, even though installing grub to MBR is irrelevant on libreboot system, grub tools are still needed to eg. generate config (grub-mkconfig)"
[15:14] <R0b0t1``> yo dawg if that is true then that is a problem with the kubuntu installer
[15:15] <R0b0t1``> I can't boot USB stuff and that does seem to be maybe a HW problem (USB ports turned off for early boot)
[15:15] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: no, it isn't. Debian-installer (which is what Ubuntu uses under the hood) doesn't support a coreboot install
[15:16] <oerheks> acpi_osi=Linux comes back in any guide, as grub boot parameter  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X200
[15:17] <oerheks> but ignore that, on a funny libreboot
[15:18] <TJ-> R0b0t1``: also you should know that on Kubuntu for the last few releases, it no longer uses the Debian/Ubuntu installer - it uses Calamares
[15:19] <AlexPortable> TJ-: yes, but it will still be limited to the physical terminal size. I've tried `resize -s 500 500`
[15:40] <Xano> Hi all! I've been having trouble with my NUC not being able to control its Intel I219-V ethernet controller due to a driver issue. It used to work fine using Ubuntu 18 until this week. Reinstalling 18.04 (using kernel 4.15) or 19.10 doesn't work. I tried other kernels on 18.04, such as 4.18 (latest available v4) or 5.0.0, but those introduced new problems where the USB keyboard wasn't recognized (mouse was fine).
[15:40] <Xano> Another friendly user in this channel tried to debug this with me yesterday, but we didn't end up finding a solution. Since then I tried downgrading the kernel to 4.15, but to no avail
[15:40] <Xano> lshw recognizes the controller and marks it unclaimed. Softwar & Updates say it's a driver issue and that it needs backport-iwlwifi-dkms, but installing that seems to have no effect
[15:47] <WoC`> Xano, you may want to try 19.10 - unless you have a specific reason for 18.04
[15:48] <WoC`> i.e. rocm or something arcane of that nature
[15:52] <TJ-> Xano: that'd have been me I think?
[15:52] <TJ-> Xano: you can ignore the backports-iwlwif-dkms -- that is specific to the Intel WiFi devices
[15:53] <Xano> WoC`, 19.10 failed after I had upgraded to it, 18 worked fine until this week, hence the downgrade
[15:53] <Xano> TJ-, That would indeed have been you :)
[15:54] <jeremy31> Is that one that uses the e1000e driver?
[15:54] <TJ-> Xano: I have a memory like a goldfish... what was I saying? ... oh.... :P  ... does the PC have other network ability such as a wifi card so we can grab some detailed logs?
[15:54] <TJ-> jeremy31: Yes
[15:55] <Xano> TJ-, *blub* Yes, there's a stable wireless connection
[15:57] <TJ-> Xano: YAY!... OK, feed me data! "pastebinit <( uname -r; sudo lspci -vvvnnk; journalctl -b 0 -k )"
[16:13] <Xano> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FDSwB3DR62/
[16:13] <Xano> TJ-, We're on 18.04 with 5.3 now
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> Xano: did you update your nuc firmware to latest?
[16:14] <TJ-> Xano: so we're dealing with 00:1f.6
[16:14] <Xano> TJ-, yup
[16:14] <Xano> lotuspsychje, not yet! Will look into that
[16:14] <Xano> lotuspsychje, It did work before, though
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> Xano: not saying its related, but for an intel NUC its pretty important you do
[16:15] <TJ-> Xano: so the cruz is line 1303 " e1000e: probe of 0000:00:1f.6 failed with error -2"
[16:15] <Xano> TJ-, yesterday (or Friday?) we established that's a driver issue
[16:16] <Xano> TJ-, You mentioned that recent kernel versions have seen lots of problems with this controller, so this morning I tried using the original kernel 18.04 came with to see if these problems were introduced this week after I upgraded the kernel
[16:17] <TJ-> Xano: can you unload the module with "sudo modprobe -r e1000e", check its gone with "lsmod | grep e100" then clear kernel ring-buffer with "sudo dmesg -C" then reload with "sudo modprobe e1000e debug=16" then show me "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[16:25] <Xano> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5h9qH7MCTh/
[16:26] <Xano> TJ-, Same output as on Friday.
[16:26] <TJ-> Xano: hmmph that didn't help us did it!
[16:27] <TJ-> Xano: I'm wondering if its the interupt mode failing. Some devices fail at MSI and need to use traditional edge/level triggered
[16:27] <TJ-> Xano: let me check the e1000e source-code for the options
[16:29] <TJ->  * legacy=0, MSI=1, MSI-X=2
[16:30] <TJ-> Xano: OK lets try again. "sudo modprobe -r e1000e; sudo dmesg -C; sudo modprobe e1000e IntMode=0; pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[16:33] <Xano> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WRtYdpY9sT/
[16:33] <TJ-> Xano: is this thing built onto the motherboard?
[16:37] <Xano> TJ-, Pretty sure. Haven't opened it up but they're tiny machines with non-standard boards.
[16:38] <Xano> TJ-, Ack, it's built onto the motherboard
[16:38] <Xano> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/95061/intel-nuc-kit-nuc7i5bnk.html
[16:38] <TJ-> Xano: yeah, it's feeling like a possible hardware issue if its failing to respond to the probe
[16:40] <oerheks> Xano, sure you have the latest bios 81 from 1/14/2020
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> its important, intel nucs had security flaws in 2019
[16:41] <TJ-> Xano: I see it is sharing the same IRQ (16) as the NVME controller. let's look at that: "pastebinit /proc/interrupts "
[16:42] <Xano> oerheks, Pretty sure it's not but am looking at installing that
[16:42] <Xano> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/chwkQ4ZgCW/
[16:43] <iKarus987> 3235 pts/1    00:00:00 wireshark <defunct>   how do i kill it good lol
[16:43] <iKarus987> it's stuck at defunct
[16:43] <oerheks> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/95064/Intel-NUC-Board-NUC7i5BNB
[16:45] <TJ-> Xano: thanks, and can you show us "pastebinit <( lspci -vvnnt )"
[16:45] <TJ-> Xano: I noticed that some PCI bridge windows are failing to be allocated
[16:47] <Xano> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4MMJ7JRD8r/
[16:51] <TJ-> Xano: have you tried booting the system without an Ethernet cable connected? so there's no media sense
[16:52] <Xano> TJ-, Yes, but I can try again and confirm these outputs
[16:53] <TJ-> Xano: no need if you have ... I'm just trying to reduce the possibilities/causes
[16:53] <djbehnke> Hello all!
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> welcome djbehnke
[16:53] <kostkon> djbehnke, hi
[16:54] <TJ-> Xano: this sounds very similar and is put dwn to a hardware fault: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2404122
[16:55] <djbehnke> I'm having an issue where the sound section in the settings "app" is not showing any audio devices (so I cannot select anything and output audio). I did notice that alsamixer shows all my devices just fine. Does anyone know how to get the settings app to display my sound devices?
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> djbehnke: wich kernel/ubuntu version do you have
[16:55] <oerheks> this is an annoying current bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867803
[16:57] <Xano> TJ-, grmbl. Thanks again for taking me through these steps. I'll try updating the BIOS (thanks oerheks and lotuspsychje for poking me to do that) and see if that changes anything. Otherwise I'll be off to try an externel ethernet interface
[16:58] <Xano> *of course* warranty expired six weeks ago...
[16:58] <Xano> :D
[16:59] <TJ-> Xano: hold on I've found indications I was on the right track... reboot with cable out... actually power off, unplug cable, leave a minute for capacitors to drain, power on without cable... and report back. See comment "mservillat - 2014-04-17 "  https://sourceforge.net/p/e1000/bugs/402/
[16:59] <djbehnke> so I need to rollback my kernel?
[16:59] <oerheks> newer biosses can roll back an update
[16:59] <oerheks> so no worries
[16:59] <oerheks> djbehnke, that is one test, yes
[17:00] <oerheks> hold shift @ boot, change kernel in grub
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> djbehnke: try if you can reproduce on the bug oerheks linked, by testing one of those other kernel versions
[17:00] <TJ-> *tap Esc at boot :)
[17:00] <djbehnke> I will try that now, thanks
[17:01] <TJ-> Xano: the comment "Chris Jones - 2014-02-19 " in that thread where the user built the module with debug symbols adds a kernel log showing what is happening, which is helpful (to me!)
[17:01] <TJ-> Xano: boils down to "MDI Read did not complete"
[17:05] <TJ-> Xano: accordin to this kernel dev's thread about a similar issue with that device, it's a timing issue ... driver needs to wait a long time (relatively) before expecting the device to answer a request... looks like the hardware is taking longer than the driver allows.  https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/8/6/653
[17:07] <iKarus987> how do i get to activates using keyboard?
[17:08] <iKarus987> kinda boring to move the mouse all the way to top screen
[17:08] <iKarus987> thanks
[17:09] <oerheks> if you are bored, volunteers tend to hang back and smile
[17:09] <oerheks> how about look in systemsettings and then the short keys section?
[17:09] <iKarus987> k thx
[17:10] <iKarus987> lol stupid question
[17:10] <iKarus987> sorry
[17:14] <oerheks> iKarus987, no stupid Q, if i answer correctly, you pass on the good stuff, and you save me a lot of time
[17:14] <oerheks> thanks!
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:17] <TJ-> is it possible to overclock Intel NUCs?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: yes its GUI bios has a lot of options
[17:18] <oerheks> o la la, good spot
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> a lot of fan schemes too
[17:18] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Xano I'm wondering if you've overclocked it and this is causing timing issues
[17:30] <Twist> Does anyone have an idea where to begin troubleshooting high host CPU from KVM? (qemu-system-x86, specifically)
[17:35] <sterkk> Hi. I've been searching, but haven't really found and answer. Is there a somewhat easy way to use my current locale (Swedish), but use english weekday and month names?
[17:36] <sterkk> To clarify. I currently use English as language, but swedish formats.
[17:37] <zutat> sterkk: tends to break things, sadly. i use a similar setup. man locale, look at the environment variable part
[17:38] <zutat> LC_TIME and so on
[17:38] <sterkk> @zutat Ok. If i set LC_TIME, that will also change date and time formats, correct?
[17:41] <zutat> sterkk: try it out by running something like  `LC_TIME="sv_SV.UTF-8" date`
[17:45] <sterkk> zutat: Thank you. I will experiment a bit and hope i don't break something :)
[17:51] <bluesj0ts> computer says xubuntu while booting even after deleting xfce, anyone here know the fix?
[17:52] <Xano> TJ-, lotuspsychje Did not overclock. It's now powering down. Will let you know how this goes.
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> bluesj0ts: tell us the whole story please, what did you do?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Xano: ok, good luck with bios update
[17:53] <TJ-> Xano: I have a way to get detailed debug info so be back soon!
[17:53] <TJ-> Xano: We can enable dynamic_debug for e1000e which'll cause it to dump a lot of info
[17:56] <TJ-> Xano: "sudo modprobe -r e1000e; sudo dmesg -C; sudo modprobe e1000e dyndbg==mfp ; pastebinit <( dmesg) "
[17:56] <djbehnke> so I've been trying to choose my kernel at boot but my OS drive is encrypted and holding shift or esc doesn't seem to work. Is there any easier way to choose my kernel with an encrypted OS partition? For some reason this computer acts weird when booting to an encrypted partition
[17:56] <TJ-> djbehnke: you'd need to *tap* Esc repeatedly to intercept an EFI GRUB boot
[17:57] <TJ-> djbehnke: if you used the standard Ubuntu installer then /boot/ is not encrypted so GRUB is in the clear
[17:57] <TJ-> djbehnke: however, if you set GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y in /etc/default/grub then grub's 2nd-stage files, kernels and intrd.img files are encrypted and GRUB's core image will ask you for the passphrase
[17:59] <djbehnke> Okay. I can try it again. It sounds like I'm just doing something wrong.
[18:00] <TJ-> djbehnke: tapping Esc as soon as the firmware is handing over to GRUB ... you've got about 5-10 seconds to catch it usually because it hides the GRUB menu
[18:01] <djbehnke> Alright I'll pull up this channel on my laptop and try again
[18:04] <djbehnke> Thanks for the Help TJ. I was able to get another kernel loaded. We'll see if the audio is back now.
[18:04] <TJ-> djbehnke: :)
[18:04] <TJ-> ubuntu
[18:04] <TJ-> oops, helps to be in the terminal!
[18:05] <bluesj0ts> lotuspsychje, running 19.10 gnome, I installed it and removed it with sudo apt remove -y xubuntu-desktop xfdesktop4 xfce4-* libxfce4-* \ lightdm,sudo apt autoremove -y,sudo apt install -- reinstall -y gdm3, sudo reboot
[18:06] <TJ-> bluesj0ts: you've got the xubuntu plymouth splash installed
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> bluesj0ts: we usually reccomend if you like a flavour, to clean install it, if you test them ontop your ubuntu version, things get mixxed, purge gets harder
[18:07] <TJ-> bluesj0ts: see results of "apt list --installed '*xubuntu*' "
[18:07] <TJ-> bluesj0ts: you'll have "plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo" and others still around
[18:08] <bluesj0ts> ok thanks ill probably do a fresh install then
[18:10] <bluesj0ts> yeah says I have plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo, plymouth-theme-xubuntu-text, xubuntu-artwork, xubuntu-docs, xubuntu-wallpapers
[18:24] <dacencora> Hey guys. Coming back to Ubuntu after a long time. I have a laptop that has switchable graphics, however you can turn off the Intel graphics completely and use only the Nvidia graphics. When I do this, I cannot control screen brightness. I dual boot with Gentoo and it works beautifully there. On the Gentoo install my backlight is /sys/class/backlight/NVIDIA-0/ but here on Ubuntu it's
[18:24] <dacencora> /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> dacencora: a hybrid card intel/nvidia use nvidia-prime to switch between the 2 cards
[18:25] <dacencora> lotuspsychje: I don't want to use that. I have turned off the intel card completely
[18:25] <dacencora> Only discrete graphics are on.
[18:26] <oerheks> what options doo you have?  ls /sys/class/backlight/   # shows them
[18:26] <dacencora> oerheks: only acpi_video0
[18:26] <dacencora> I see the same thing on Debian, for more information
[18:27] <TJ-> dacencora: NVIDIA-0 node will come from the proprietary driver
[18:27] <TJ-> dacencora: or, from nouveau
[18:28] <oerheks> did you install nvidia drivers ?
[18:28] <dacencora> TJ-: I have the proprietary driver installed, at least according to the Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[18:28] <dacencora> Nouveau doesn't work with the 1650 Max Q card in my experience
[18:29] <TJ-> dacencora: is it in use? "lspci -nnk -d ::0300" should tell you
[18:29] <dacencora> On that settings page, it says I am 'Using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-345'
[18:29] <dacencora> *435
[18:29] <dacencora> Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[18:30] <dacencora> Hmm. I wonder if I use the nvidia_drm module on Gentoo
[18:30] <dacencora> That may be the difference
[18:32] <oerheks> maybe your fix is acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor as grub boot option
[18:32] <dacencora> I can try that too oerheks
[18:33] <dacencora> How do I get to the grub menu? When I am booting it just takes me directly to enter my encryption password
[18:34] <TJ-> dacencora: tapping Esc quickly as firmware hands over to GRUB
[18:34] <dacencora> ok thanks
[18:51] <TJ-> did we lose Xano ?
[19:04] <Xano> TJ-, Hahah, not yet! Busy laying some ethernet around the house. Unplugged the cable, rebooted, then shut down as you said, no result. Will try updating the BIOS, then maybe another OS (should have a Windows installer somewhere). Really hope it's not the hardware, but we'll see :)
[19:05] <TJ-> Xano: please do run the new dyndebug option, that'll capture accurate info
[19:05] <TJ-> Xano: "sudo modprobe -r e1000e; sudo dmesg -C; sudo modprobe e1000e dyndbg==mfp ; pastebinit <( dmesg) "
[19:05] <TJ-> Xano: if this confirms what I think about a failed read. I can build you a custom module that extends the timeout to test it
[19:26] <WoC`> any suggestions for a aarch64 device, that can boot from ssd and run ubuntu, with working OpenCL ?
[19:27] <WoC`> chroombook isnt it, proven
[19:31] <WoC`> maybe i have my expectations too high by thinking it aught to have better performance than a 80286
[19:38] <Xano> TJ-, Will do (damnit I disconnected again :/ ) Will hopefully try today, otherwise tomorrow. Gotta extend the home network considering we've got multiple people working from home these days and one AP just doesn't cut it :P
[19:48] <jost> Hi! On my server, I have configured an interface with a static IP (v4). When this server tries to connect to this IP, it does not seem do normal routing via the gateway - it seems to connect to itself. How can I force routing that IP via the gateway?
[19:54] <pgnd> jost: which instructions did you follow?
[19:55] <pavlos> jost: can you show via pastebin the /etc/network/interfaces
[19:59] <jost> pavlos: http://dpaste.com/2FDY2DW
[20:00] <jost> The background is that of a kubernetes cluster, and the IP is not necessarily routed to the actual node
[20:00] <jost> Each node has that IP configured as static IP, but the IP is routed to only one of the nodes, and in case of failure the target node is changed
[20:04] <pavlos> I dont have experience with kub ... maybe someone else can chime in ...
[20:05] <jost> Ok, I've done further analysis, routing is not the problem - seems like the request is not correctly handled by the ingress service when coming from a cluster node
[20:28] <AnonymousPepper> If somebody's free, could I please get a hand with woeusb?
[20:31] <AlligatorJoe> on the ubuntu version of pcsxr the xvideo driver doesn't seem to work with the intel graphics chipset it basically crashes....is it compiled for nvidia only or something.
[20:32] <AlligatorJoe> i am not sure who is compiling the code for the ubuntu binaries and what hardware they are using
[20:34] <AlligatorJoe> are there any ubuntu devs in here today to see who is compiling the code for the ubuntu binaries and what hardware they are using or supporting
[20:35] <oerheks> no, it depends what generation intel GPU you use ..
[20:35] <oerheks> don't blame the development
[20:36] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks oh ok...well this reports as GM45 chipset...it works with direct x drivers on windows so it seems like it should work on ubuntu also but it does not support the xvideo driver only the slow opengl driver
[20:36] <kostkon> AlligatorJoe, does the opengl driver crash as well
[20:37] <AlligatorJoe> kostokon..no it is ok...but very slow...not nearly as fast as the xvideo driver that i used to have working on my nvidia card
[20:46] <AlligatorJoe> kostkon...the xvideo driver is important for games that require a lot of speedy action such as Castlevania Symphony of the Night...i bought a playstation version but i have not been able to find and check the xbox 360 version that konami said they would produce.
[20:49] <oerheks> that might work on Intel gen 10
[20:49] <AlligatorJoe> and since there is a worldwide fanclub for Castlevania symphony of the night with gamers from all over the world trading secrets and tips it is kind of an important issue.
[20:49] <oerheks> so, get a proper videocard?
[20:49] <kostkon> AlligatorJoe, i guess you've done your research and you know more than me on the subject in question at this point. But I'd like to point out that graphics perfomance is bound to be slower with old intel graphic chipsets
[20:50] <AlligatorJoe> oeheks...i can't...this is a lousy HP laptop that my brother gave me since he got a new AMD hardware laptop
[20:51] <AlligatorJoe> but intel does support much more graphics than they did 10 years ago...so i don't count them out of the race...it is just that this hardware is kind of out of date
[20:54] <AlligatorJoe> oeheks...there is no way to put a video card in this laptop
[20:55] <oerheks> accept that you cannot play those games, done.
[20:55] <AlligatorJoe> oeheks...yes i guess you are right...but what do you do with the game software you purchased.
[20:56] <aaardvark> Is there anything I should be cautious of if I use sshfs to mount a directory on a remote server ans use it as a shared drive between that server and the one where I did the mount
[20:57] <genii> Alternately, get one of these https://www.ebay.ca/i/372289671411
[21:01] <AlligatorJoe> genii..that is an interesting url...those video hardware gurus  always seem to be coming up with something
[21:02] <genii> Plug one end in a miniPCIe in the laptop, then get some desktop video card that works with whatever you're trying to run
[21:02] <AlligatorJoe> genii...that seems like a very useful idea....but i think an easier approach is to find out what happened to the promised xbox360 version of the game
[21:03] <genii> There's also ExpressCard versions of this, if the laptop has one of those slots
[21:03] <AlligatorJoe> genii..no this lousy laptop doesn't have any expansion bus for i/o port external devices
[21:06] <AlligatorJoe> genii..but what can you do..it was a hand me down gift..and beggars can't be choosers
[21:06] <genii> Aye
[21:43] <AlligatorJoe> genii at least there are a couple of lara croft games for the xbox 360 now....so the gamers have something to work with
[21:44] <AlligatorJoe> genii.and there is the sakaguchi rpg called "the lost odysey" for final fantasy fans
[21:45] <AlligatorJoe> but the missing castlevania is a serious deficienty
[21:45] <AlligatorJoe> deficiency
[21:45] <oerheks> how is this related to ubuntu support, AlligatorJoe ?
[21:45] <oerheks> not again useless conversation in here please, join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[21:46] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks we are trying to work on code for emulators that will run on ubuntu at some point in the future
[21:46] <oerheks> no.
[21:46] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks well it is no right now but the code is underway it is just very alpha now and not useful at this time
[21:51] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks and it also requires video hardware that supports the vulkan drivers to even get some testing stages done
[21:52] <AlligatorJoe> oeheks as i understand it...the vulkan drivers will be made available for all linux distros
[21:53] <shinobi> If I issue ls -la /mnt I get 755 perms with root as owner and group. I issue a sudo chmod 700 /mnt with no error, but the perms don't change. Why?
[22:01] <marcodiego> I have a 6th gen Ipod. How can I copy some video files from it to my ubuntu desktop?
[22:02] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks so development requires sophisticated graphics hardware that only certain nvidia cards can accomodate but intel and amd should be working on compatible hardware to support vulkan and its forthcoming apps at this time
[22:02] <EriC^^> shinobi: it might be the mount options and filesystem
[22:03] <EriC^^> for instance ntfs/fat
[22:04] <oerheks> shinobi, one changes the mount in /mnt/ itself, not /mnt
[22:04] <oerheks> like chown $user:$user /mnt/<my partition>
[22:05] <Bromite> anyone used caddy?
[22:07] <AlligatorJoe> and as i understand it ....vulkan will be made available to android...all the linux distros like ubuntu,redhat,gentoo  etc...and probably windows as well
[22:08] <AlligatorJoe> i am not sure but i think the Chronos group is involved with vulkan at this time also
[22:08] <oerheks> AlligatorJoe, stop now.
[22:09] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks well it is a ubuntu issue since ubuntu would like get to distribute the vulkan drivers as well
[22:10] <oerheks> no, you have no actual issue, just random game talk, join -discussion or -offtopic
[22:10] <Psi-Jack> Oh, sheash... Now my sound stopped working on my laptop. :/
[22:10] <oerheks> Psi-Jack, what kernel are you on?
[22:11] <Psi-Jack> 5.3.0-42-generic
[22:11] <oerheks> this is an annoying current bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867803
[22:11] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks ok..maybe games need a separate channel since a lot of the jargon is not understandable by the average linux user
[22:11] <Psi-Jack> Yep.... That seems to be matching up.
[22:11] <genii> AlligatorJoe: This channel is primarily for assisting users who are experiencing immediate problems. Your situation does not really fall into this category.
[22:12] <AlligatorJoe> genii..yes i understand your points which is why i said maybe games issues need a separate channel but i don't know which one
[22:12] <oerheks> Psi-Jack, also related, but i would roll back a kernel .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1218041/ubuntu-18-04-audio-disappeared-after-update/1218063#1218063
[22:12] <oerheks> or go wild with proposed
[22:12] <Psi-Jack> heh.
[22:12] <oerheks> = -43
[22:13] <Psi-Jack> I'm going back to -40, to see.
[22:14] <Psi-Jack> There it is. Sound. At least the internal sound, not the sound connected via USB-C.
[22:14] <Psi-Jack> (which I don't have speakers connected to, but, still)
[22:16] <Psi-Jack> But, this is kind of bad, so many issues. Sound stops in one kernel. Network stops in another.
[22:17] <oerheks> go for Focal 20.04 ??
[22:17] <oerheks> we do need testers
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> I will, when it's released. :)
[22:17] <oerheks> you would get 5.4 ,,,
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> Which... Had even more problems.
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> I tried Fedora which had a 5.4 kernel initially, and more things didn't work. LOL
[22:19] <genii> AlligatorJoe: You may want to check out the #unity3d channel
[22:20] <AlligatorJoe> genii ok thanks for the tip  i will check in there
[22:44] <AlligatorJoe> i think chronos is really spelled the Khronos group with a K instead of a C
[22:44] <AlligatorJoe> but any i will keep the comments to the other channel
[22:47] <lestac> Anyone knows how to install a equalizer in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[22:48] <AlligatorJoe> lestac..yes that is really needed and also on win 7 .
[22:50] <AlligatorJoe> lestac what i have been doing as a workaround at this time is to use the equalizer in audacity and resave the file with new equalizer adjusted encoding
[22:50] <AlligatorJoe> lestc..but it is a pain and really time consuming.....ubuntu really needs one and so does win 7
[22:52] <oerheks> there should be one, and there is a project pulseeffects http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/06/install-audio-effects-pulseeffects-ubuntu-18-04-higher/
[22:53] <oerheks> i just use the one in clementine, video needs no adjustment for me
[22:54] <lestac> i need one to use in real time, for streamed music
[22:56] <akem> VLC also has one integrated IIRC.
[22:57] <AlligatorJoe> oerheks well i don't know about that file...is seems like they compiled to code for ubuntu stable version not the ermine version..so it might not work
[22:58] <AlligatorJoe> but the url is very interesting...however...pulse doesn't perform that well..it hiccups..when i do serious audio work i use the alsa option
[22:58] <AlligatorJoe> rather than using pulseaudio
[22:59] <AlligatorJoe> you just have to be very careful because it doen't have the server advantages of pulse
[23:09] <AlligatorJoe> take for example ogg123....you can select pulse or alsa and you don't get the hiccups with alsa like you do with pulse
[23:13] <AlligatorJoe> likewise mpg321 sounds much better using the alsa option than the esd option again but without the esd server advantages
[23:15] <AlligatorJoe> but any equalizer, even with the pulse hiccups, is better than no equalizer at all
[23:18] <AlligatorJoe> it is  a problem on windows 7 also....windows 10 seems to have an equalizer as part of the system...but i dont' like windows 10
[23:20] <AlligatorJoe> windows 10 has a lot of bullshit that stops a whole lot of games and game engine code from modifiying lots of windows folders which makes it a piece of crap
[23:21] <marz_d`ghostman> I just migrated a virtual server running Ubntu 16. I can ping it but I can't ssh to it. iptables allows ssh, and sshd is running and listening to port 22. What other possible problems may have occured?
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> marz_d`ghostman, Where is this virtual server running exactly? is this an AWS, Docker, some other containered instace? Also, Please note that version numbers are important and Ubuntu uses the YY.MM format to differentiate releases. Always remember to include both values since Ubuntu releases twice per year and it will help volunteers provide more precise help with your issue
[23:24] <AlligatorJoe> marz..maybe you need to check all the configuration options of sshd and be sure to use the right user password on your ssh client
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> AlligatorJoe, That's not how SSH works
[23:25] <AlligatorJoe> pragm...since when
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> AlligatorJoe, OpenSSH uses the system users for authentication... it does not provide it's own. Your comment is highly imprecise and implies that user authentication is handled by the sshd service
[23:26] <AlligatorJoe> pragm...well openssh is only one version of the ssh protocol
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> AlligatorJoe, you are also making the assumption they can't login ... the person has not provided details. There is no way to know if it is an authentication problem, or if the service is not responding, or some other issue is going on.
[23:27] <pavlos> marz_d`ghostman: is openssh-server installed on the server?
[23:27] <marz_d`ghostman> I just created a back up for the iptables, it appears that I need to update the interface name there. I wonder if there is something I can do so that the interface names doesn't change when I migrate. Like ens162 gets changed to ens18
[23:28] <AlligatorJoe> pragm...that is right but you have to start trying possible solutions somewhere
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> marz_d`ghostman, Interface names don't change... that is the purpose for the naming convention you see
[23:28] <marz_d`ghostman> pavlos: Got it sorted out, it was the iptables referring to a non-existing interface
[23:28] <pavlos> k
[23:28] <marz_d`ghostman> pragmaticenigma: Is there anything I can setup so it doesn't change? like ens162 -> ens18
[23:30] <pragmaticenigma> marz_d`ghostman, They won't change... Ubuntu uses what is called consistent network device naming, which ensures that the device name does not change, such that configurations are not broken if a new interface is added or removed
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> marz_d`ghostman, for more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_Network_Device_Naming
[23:36] <AlligatorJoe> pragm...i personally shun the word "open" as opposed to gnu "free"...redhat started that stuff so they could propietize things and have legal ownership of certain programs...but anyway the coders are free to choose gnu versus "open-source"
[23:37] <oerheks> how helpfull
[23:38] <pragmaticenigma> AlligatorJoe, That comment seems highly offtopic for this channel. Why don't you join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[23:38] <AlligatorJoe> pragm okay
[23:44] <theborger> anyone around that can help with msmtp setup?
[23:45] <theborger> i keep getting the error message Username and Password not accepted. gsmtp' errormsg='authentication failed (method PLAIN)' exitcode=EX_NOPERM
[23:45] <AlligatorJoe> thebor are you trying to set up a mail server
[23:46] <AlligatorJoe> thebor we used to do that on windows many years ago when email was fun before the dot.com bust
[23:46] <theborger> pastbin of config file  https://pastebin.com/0AYQ3f6f
[23:46] <oerheks> theborger, what guide did you follow?
[23:46] <theborger> oerheks: https://www.emanueletessore.com/how-to-configure-msmtp-as-a-gmail-relay-on-ubuntu-server/
[23:47] <theborger> oerheks: i'm at the Test MSMTP stage
[23:48] <AlligatorJoe> thebor..in the old days everyone wanted their own web server and email server but those days are long gone
[23:49] <pavlos> theborger: line 13 may just need to be lotec25server (w/o the gmail.com
[23:49] <oerheks> i miss "tls_starttls on"  from https://codingproductivity.wordpress.com/2018/01/18/configuring-msmtp-on-ubuntu-16-04-again/
[23:49] <AlligatorJoe> thebor now everybody just uses the ms server or the google server or the yahoo server for email purposes
[23:50] <oerheks> AlligatorJoe, he is not interested in your good old times stories.
[23:50] <AlligatorJoe> thebor the old days are gone and everything is consolidated now
[23:50] <oerheks> stop.
[23:50] <theborger> pavlos: just tried that same error
[23:50] <oerheks> !ops
[23:52] <theborger> i just need a SMTP outgoing for trouble, error, info alerts on my dell servers.  figured MSMtp was the easy way to go
[23:52] <AlligatorJoe> thebor oh you just want a local server on a propietary network of your own....well that is still very easy to do
[23:54] <krytarik> AlligatorJoe: Try tab-complete on the nick btw.
[23:54] <AlligatorJoe> thebor...but these days everything is moved to the giant network we call the internet.....so a local network has many disadvantages compared to the benefits of being a part of a giant network
[23:54] <oerheks> tls starttls on  # tls_certcheck on
[23:54] <genii> AlligatorJoe: For casual chat, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel and not here. If you persist in just contributing to noise in the channel, you cace removal.
[23:54] <popey> AlligatorJoe enough now. We've heard the old timey stories.
[23:54] <genii> cace/face
[23:55] <theborger> oerheks: add that?
[23:55] <oerheks> theborger, do you have certs on that server?
[23:56] <theborger> oerheks: like 40 or so in /etc/ssl/certs
[23:57] <AlligatorJoe> genii well okay maybe i am just getting too old...
[23:57] <oerheks> this is what if find simular in other howto's, like from our french friends https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/msmtp
[23:59] <AlligatorJoe> it is time for newer people to rise and take control and handle all these technical problems
[23:59] <Flannel> AlligatorJoe: As others have said, this channel is for technical *support*, not advocacy or stories.  Please take them elsewhere and help keep this channel on-topic.  Thanks.