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| gnrp | hrm, I am having a problem with Xubuntu 19.10: | 10:04 |
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| gnrp | Fresh installation, just some packages on top. But still standard lightdm with xfce | 10:05 |
| gnrp | however, the shutdown/restart buttons are greyed out, suspend is not even shown. | 10:05 |
| gnrp | all the "old" recommendations are consolekit stuff, but that doesn't exist anymore | 10:05 |
| gnrp | ah, and the policykit pkla files I found I tried out, but didn't work | 10:06 |
| gnrp | anybody with an idea on what to do? | 10:06 |
| gnrp | in lightdm, the shutdown/restart buttons are also greyed out | 10:06 |
| gnrp | also, when I put the suspend action on the power button via energy manager, it requires me to enter a password when I push the power button before it works | 10:08 |
| diogenes_ | gnrp, run: groups | nc termbin.com 9999 | 10:12 |
| diogenes_ | and share the link. | 10:12 |
| gnrp | diogenes_: https://termbin.com/py5j | 10:12 |
| gnrp | on my notebook, also on 19.10, shutdown and all that stuff works. There, groups are mostly the same, but due to the installed software (replace lxd by adbusers) | 10:14 |
| diogenes_ | gnrp, did you install on top of the previously saved /home? | 10:15 |
| gnrp | yep | 10:17 |
| gnrp | was an 18.04 before | 10:17 |
| gnrp | (did the same on the notebook btw, where it works) | 10:18 |
| diogenes_ | gnrp, when it comes about troubleshooting issues that occur after an upgrade, first thing i do i create a new clean user to rule out configuration issues. | 10:18 |
| gnrp | will try. At the moment I was too inpatient and I am upgrading to focal right now^^ | 10:19 |
| gnrp | but yeah, that's a good idea in general, I should follow that | 10:19 |
| gnrp | and yes, from "something doesn't work" to "using experimental releases" is not very smart. But at least I have some good corona-time now for reporting bugs, heh | 10:22 |
| diogenes_ | so it's called "corona-time" now? maybe "covid-time" :) | 10:23 |
| gnrp | depends on whether you spend time at home or you spend time drinking beers? ;) | 10:25 |
| gnrp | diogenes_: So focal does the same, and a new user also has the same issues | 10:29 |
| gnrp | (as does lightdm, btw) | 10:29 |
| diogenes_ | gnrp, hmm xfce4-session is responsible for that afaik. | 10:31 |
| gnrp | hm | 10:48 |
| gnrp | so the action required for the suspend at least is org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-ignore-inhibit | 10:48 |
| gnrp | how would I allow my user to perform tihs? | 10:49 |
| gnrp | wohooo, I made it work! :D | 11:12 |
| gnrp | suspend, hibernate, reboot, all works. Had to grant some of the org.freedesktop.login1 permissions | 11:12 |
| gnrp | although I am not happy with the result. :( | 11:12 |
| gnrp | now that I understand it I cannot insult and rant about policykit anymore. That sucks. | 11:12 |
| gnrp | and this time even the on-board documentation alone was doing ti | 11:13 |
| xubuntu45w | hello | 16:57 |
| xubuntu45w | I have strudels downloading applications | 16:59 |
| xubuntu45w | Can you help me please? | 16:59 |
| xubuntu45w | the error message is: "It is not possible to install Inkscape: cannot perform the following tasks:" | 17:04 |
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| xubuntu40w | Hi there guys! You might be able to help me out with this one. | 20:38 |
| xubuntu40w | As you guys know, the images, documents folders have different icons. | 20:39 |
| xubuntu40w | I added a Games folder, but I can't set a different icon for it, how do i do that? I'd appreciate some guidance. | 20:39 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu40w, you can make it a link and specify the desired Icon= or right click > properties > emblems, maybe there are other ways too. | 20:42 |
| xubuntu40w | diogenes: Uh this is weird, but if I click one of the emblems, it unclicks itself. | 20:44 |
| diogenes_ | indeed weird. | 20:45 |
| xubuntu40w | Any suggestions? | 20:49 |
| diogenes_ | maybe someone else could suggest something, it's too late for me so i'm off, if you won't find anything, come again tomorrow and maybe we could find something. | 20:52 |
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| xubuntu40w | Alright, thanks anyways! | 20:53 |
| DarkTrick | Sometimes when I'm shutting down my computer,some programs hang | 22:34 |
| DarkTrick | This prevents ubuntu to shut down immediately | 22:34 |
| DarkTrick | in the shutdown-phase it hangs with a "waiting for a process to finish"-like message. This has a 2 min timeout. | 22:35 |
| DarkTrick | If 5 apps hang at the time, the computer won't shut down for 10 minutes. | 22:35 |
| DarkTrick | Q1.) Is there anything I can do (in that situation) to stop the waiting and tell the computer to immediately shut down? | 22:36 |
| DarkTrick | Q2.) The system won't show which process it's waiting for, until the time is up. Is there any setting, that will make the system show which process it's waiting for? | 22:37 |
| brainwash | DarkTrick: maybe "sudo systemctl poweroff" will do the job | 22:53 |
| DarkTrick | brainwash, then I would have to shutdown my system like that all the time. Isn't there any antimeasure when I'm in the situation of a hanging process? | 22:54 |
| DarkTrick | I would expect something like CTRL+\ to work | 22:54 |
| brainwash | no idea | 22:55 |
| brainwash | I guess I would need a reproducer | 22:56 |
| brainwash | something that triggers your scenario | 22:56 |
| brainwash | I know that a running Virtual Box instance can block logout/shutdown | 22:57 |
| DarkTrick | brainwash, hm... that's difficult, I guess | 22:57 |
| DarkTrick | yes, I also figured that the last time | 22:57 |
| DarkTrick | my most recent example is a not shutting down mousepad | 22:57 |
| brainwash | huch | 22:58 |
| brainwash | interesting | 22:58 |
| brainwash | probably due to unsaved changes, right? | 22:58 |
| DarkTrick | I can't tell | 22:58 |
| DarkTrick | Mousepad was hanging *before* I tried to shut down | 22:58 |
| brainwash | oh I see | 22:59 |
| DarkTrick | I opened a file, window opens, but mousepad hangs | 22:59 |
| DarkTrick | btw: why would a virtual box instance block from logout/shutdown? | 22:59 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14429 | 23:00 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 14429 in General "XFCE session won't logout when Virtualbox is running" [Normal,New] | 23:00 |
| DarkTrick | brainwash, ok, so it's been working on | 23:02 |
| DarkTrick | I guess I should comeback with my stuff, if I can reproduce it securely | 23:02 |
| DarkTrick | thank you brainwash! | 23:03 |
| brainwash | what gives you the impression that someone is working on it? :) | 23:03 |
| DarkTrick | :D | 23:04 |
| DarkTrick | because it's in the system | 23:04 |
| DarkTrick | well.. I was struggeling sending out that sentence :D | 23:04 |
| brainwash | your case sounds a bit different though | 23:05 |
| brainwash | I mean you that dialog window with a timeout | 23:05 |
| brainwash | you get | 23:05 |
| DarkTrick | In my case Xorg already finished an I'm on TTY1 | 23:05 |
| DarkTrick | It looks like this | 23:06 |
| DarkTrick | [ **] Waiting for process to finish [ 1s / 1m59] | 23:06 |
| brainwash | ah okay. that is systemd. | 23:07 |
| DarkTrick | So 'Systemd is waiting for a process to finish' is the right description I guess(?) | 23:08 |
| brainwash | I think it is | 23:11 |
| brainwash | grep Timeout /etc/systemd/system.conf | 23:11 |
| brainwash | #DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s | 23:11 |
| brainwash | but that's 90s or 1m30 | 23:11 |
| brainwash | and you got 1m59 | 23:11 |
| DarkTrick | hm... maybe my eyes played a trick on me...? I'm pretty sure it was 1m59, though | 23:14 |
| DarkTrick | I will change this time and watch my system for a while | 23:14 |
| brainwash | you can check the journal entries for the previous boot | 23:16 |
| brainwash | if persistent logging is enabled | 23:17 |
| DarkTrick | brainwash, I could, but I would need some guidance for that | 23:17 |
| brainwash | it is enabled when /var/log/journal exists | 23:19 |
| DarkTrick | brainwash, does not exist | 23:19 |
| brainwash | sudo mkdir /var/log/journal | 23:20 |
| DarkTrick | (funny... there's already stuff in the newly created folder) | 23:21 |
| brainwash | and with "journalctl -b -1" you can access the log entries from the previous boot | 23:21 |
| DarkTrick | `No journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions.` | 23:22 |
| DarkTrick | and with sudo | 23:22 |
| DarkTrick | "Data from the specified boot (-1) is not available: No such boot ID in journal" | 23:22 |
| DarkTrick | I guess, I'll leave it like this and the next time I experience the problem, I check there? | 23:23 |
| brainwash | you didn't reboot yet | 23:24 |
| brainwash | so there is no previous boot log data | 23:24 |
| kgb | seems like there's nobody alive in #vbox, what size of partition should I use for Oracle VM - like 10, 20 GB (less?) | 23:28 |
| brainwash | for what purpose? | 23:29 |
| kgb | (just need it for messing around, maybe trying to build Firefox with less features. :)) | 23:29 |
| kgb | I mean, I'll use.VDI right so I can expand and all that | 23:29 |
| DarkTrick | kgb: I would use 20G or even more. And set the option to "dynamically allocated" | 23:29 |
| kgb | DarkTrick: yessir. that's cool!..:) ty | 23:30 |
| brainwash | mine is 10GB | 23:30 |
| kgb | um, encrypt the swap?? | 23:30 |
| brainwash | but I only keep things installed that I need | 23:30 |
| brainwash | encrypt swap? what you mean? | 23:31 |
| kgb | the swap partition, should i encrypt it - or just not bother with that?? oh and what RAM... I've got 16GB, is there any need of using more than 2 ?? .o0 | 23:32 |
| kgb | maybe 4GB, if I'll be compiling and all that, yeah? | 23:33 |
| DarkTrick | kgb: I'm using 1 - 2GB. Works fine for compiling smaller applications. Remember, that you always change those settings :) | 23:34 |
| kgb | DarkTrick: ugh, sure - bt, it (_always?!?) takes a while to manipulate the partition(s) size(s)? | 23:35 |
| kgb | hm | 23:35 |
| DarkTrick | kgb: I was talking about RAM | 23:36 |
| DarkTrick | That should be changed with a reboot and 10 seconds of mouse clicking | 23:36 |
| kgb | DarkTrick: well, yeah - the RAM is the actual size of the swap partition, no?! :-o | 23:37 |
| DarkTrick | kgb: I don't know. I though "swap partition" is for an actual partition. The RAM is only used in case there is no specific 'partition' for swap (setup in /etc/fstab) | 23:38 |
| DarkTrick | **But I might be wrong** | 23:39 |
| kgb | hey SRY about all the questions, bt how about CPU number - I'm on a Asus FX505DU laptop with AMD Ryzen 7 3750H | 23:39 |
| kgb | more than 2, or will two be alright?? | 23:39 |
| kgb | *running it!..:) | 23:42 |
| DarkTrick | kgb: I'd say, the same thing again: just try and change if necessary :) I personally use only 1 core and it runs fine. | 23:44 |
| kgb | cool, cool! :D just... I *really* want to build Firefox; maybe even for, like, F-Droid or something | 23:45 |
| kgb | (for sure for personal use, without a BUNCH of stuff. :)) | 23:45 |
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