=== GridCube_ is now known as GridCube === CrazyLikeAFox is now known as Wayward_Vagabond === ilvipero1 is now known as ilvipero [10:04] hrm, I am having a problem with Xubuntu 19.10: [10:05] Fresh installation, just some packages on top. But still standard lightdm with xfce [10:05] however, the shutdown/restart buttons are greyed out, suspend is not even shown. [10:05] all the "old" recommendations are consolekit stuff, but that doesn't exist anymore [10:06] ah, and the policykit pkla files I found I tried out, but didn't work [10:06] anybody with an idea on what to do? [10:06] in lightdm, the shutdown/restart buttons are also greyed out [10:08] also, when I put the suspend action on the power button via energy manager, it requires me to enter a password when I push the power button before it works [10:12] gnrp, run: groups | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:12] and share the link. [10:12] diogenes_: https://termbin.com/py5j [10:14] on my notebook, also on 19.10, shutdown and all that stuff works. There, groups are mostly the same, but due to the installed software (replace lxd by adbusers) [10:15] gnrp, did you install on top of the previously saved /home? [10:17] yep [10:17] was an 18.04 before [10:18] (did the same on the notebook btw, where it works) [10:18] gnrp, when it comes about troubleshooting issues that occur after an upgrade, first thing i do i create a new clean user to rule out configuration issues. [10:19] will try. At the moment I was too inpatient and I am upgrading to focal right now^^ [10:19] but yeah, that's a good idea in general, I should follow that [10:22] and yes, from "something doesn't work" to "using experimental releases" is not very smart. But at least I have some good corona-time now for reporting bugs, heh [10:23] so it's called "corona-time" now? maybe "covid-time" :) [10:25] depends on whether you spend time at home or you spend time drinking beers? ;) [10:29] diogenes_: So focal does the same, and a new user also has the same issues [10:29] (as does lightdm, btw) [10:31] gnrp, hmm xfce4-session is responsible for that afaik. [10:48] hm [10:48] so the action required for the suspend at least is org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-ignore-inhibit [10:49] how would I allow my user to perform tihs? [11:12] wohooo, I made it work! :D [11:12] suspend, hibernate, reboot, all works. Had to grant some of the org.freedesktop.login1 permissions [11:12] although I am not happy with the result. :( [11:12] now that I understand it I cannot insult and rant about policykit anymore. That sucks. [11:13] and this time even the on-board documentation alone was doing ti [16:57] hello [16:59] I have strudels downloading applications [16:59] Can you help me please? [17:04] the error message is: "It is not possible to install Inkscape: cannot perform the following tasks:" === xubuntu45w is now known as YourNick === YourNick is now known as YourNickhel [20:38] Hi there guys! You might be able to help me out with this one. [20:39] As you guys know, the images, documents folders have different icons. [20:39] I added a Games folder, but I can't set a different icon for it, how do i do that? I'd appreciate some guidance. [20:42] xubuntu40w, you can make it a link and specify the desired Icon= or right click > properties > emblems, maybe there are other ways too. [20:44] diogenes: Uh this is weird, but if I click one of the emblems, it unclicks itself. [20:45] indeed weird. [20:49] Any suggestions? [20:52] maybe someone else could suggest something, it's too late for me so i'm off, if you won't find anything, come again tomorrow and maybe we could find something. [20:52] * diogenes_ is offline [20:53] Alright, thanks anyways! [22:34] Sometimes when I'm shutting down my computer,some programs hang [22:34] This prevents ubuntu to shut down immediately [22:35] in the shutdown-phase it hangs with a "waiting for a process to finish"-like message. This has a 2 min timeout. [22:35] If 5 apps hang at the time, the computer won't shut down for 10 minutes. [22:36] Q1.) Is there anything I can do (in that situation) to stop the waiting and tell the computer to immediately shut down? [22:37] Q2.) The system won't show which process it's waiting for, until the time is up. Is there any setting, that will make the system show which process it's waiting for? [22:53] DarkTrick: maybe "sudo systemctl poweroff" will do the job [22:54] brainwash, then I would have to shutdown my system like that all the time. Isn't there any antimeasure when I'm in the situation of a hanging process? [22:54] I would expect something like CTRL+\ to work [22:55] no idea [22:56] I guess I would need a reproducer [22:56] something that triggers your scenario [22:57] I know that a running Virtual Box instance can block logout/shutdown [22:57] brainwash, hm... that's difficult, I guess [22:57] yes, I also figured that the last time [22:57] my most recent example is a not shutting down mousepad [22:58] huch [22:58] interesting [22:58] probably due to unsaved changes, right? [22:58] I can't tell [22:58] Mousepad was hanging *before* I tried to shut down [22:59] oh I see [22:59] I opened a file, window opens, but mousepad hangs [22:59] btw: why would a virtual box instance block from logout/shutdown? [23:00] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14429 [23:00] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 14429 in General "XFCE session won't logout when Virtualbox is running" [Normal,New] [23:02] brainwash, ok, so it's been working on [23:02] I guess I should comeback with my stuff, if I can reproduce it securely [23:03] thank you brainwash! [23:03] what gives you the impression that someone is working on it? :) [23:04] :D [23:04] because it's in the system [23:04] well.. I was struggeling sending out that sentence :D [23:05] your case sounds a bit different though [23:05] I mean you that dialog window with a timeout [23:05] you get [23:05] In my case Xorg already finished an I'm on TTY1 [23:06] It looks like this [23:06] [ **] Waiting for process to finish [ 1s / 1m59] [23:07] ah okay. that is systemd. [23:08] So 'Systemd is waiting for a process to finish' is the right description I guess(?) [23:11] I think it is [23:11] grep Timeout /etc/systemd/system.conf [23:11] #DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s [23:11] but that's 90s or 1m30 [23:11] and you got 1m59 [23:14] hm... maybe my eyes played a trick on me...? I'm pretty sure it was 1m59, though [23:14] I will change this time and watch my system for a while [23:16] you can check the journal entries for the previous boot [23:17] if persistent logging is enabled [23:17] brainwash, I could, but I would need some guidance for that [23:19] it is enabled when /var/log/journal exists [23:19] brainwash, does not exist [23:20] sudo mkdir /var/log/journal [23:21] (funny... there's already stuff in the newly created folder) [23:21] and with "journalctl -b -1" you can access the log entries from the previous boot [23:22] `No journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions.` [23:22] and with sudo [23:22] "Data from the specified boot (-1) is not available: No such boot ID in journal" [23:23] I guess, I'll leave it like this and the next time I experience the problem, I check there? [23:24] you didn't reboot yet [23:24] so there is no previous boot log data [23:28] seems like there's nobody alive in #vbox, what size of partition should I use for Oracle VM - like 10, 20 GB (less?) [23:29] for what purpose? [23:29] (just need it for messing around, maybe trying to build Firefox with less features. :)) [23:29] I mean, I'll use.VDI right so I can expand and all that [23:29] kgb: I would use 20G or even more. And set the option to "dynamically allocated" [23:30] DarkTrick: yessir. that's cool!..:) ty [23:30] mine is 10GB [23:30] um, encrypt the swap?? [23:30] but I only keep things installed that I need [23:31] encrypt swap? what you mean? [23:32] the swap partition, should i encrypt it - or just not bother with that?? oh and what RAM... I've got 16GB, is there any need of using more than 2 ?? .o0 [23:33] maybe 4GB, if I'll be compiling and all that, yeah? [23:34] kgb: I'm using 1 - 2GB. Works fine for compiling smaller applications. Remember, that you always change those settings :) [23:35] DarkTrick: ugh, sure - bt, it (_always?!?) takes a while to manipulate the partition(s) size(s)? [23:35] hm [23:36] kgb: I was talking about RAM [23:36] That should be changed with a reboot and 10 seconds of mouse clicking [23:37] DarkTrick: well, yeah - the RAM is the actual size of the swap partition, no?! :-o [23:38] kgb: I don't know. I though "swap partition" is for an actual partition. The RAM is only used in case there is no specific 'partition' for swap (setup in /etc/fstab) [23:39] **But I might be wrong** [23:39] hey SRY about all the questions, bt how about CPU number - I'm on a Asus FX505DU laptop with AMD Ryzen 7 3750H [23:39] more than 2, or will two be alright?? [23:42] *running it!..:) [23:44] kgb: I'd say, the same thing again: just try and change if necessary :) I personally use only 1 core and it runs fine. [23:45] cool, cool! :D just... I *really* want to build Firefox; maybe even for, like, F-Droid or something [23:45] (for sure for personal use, without a BUNCH of stuff. :))