[04:27] <ubuntu> hello
[04:55] <Guest81881> hi
[04:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:57] <ubuntu_> holy shit
[04:57] <ubuntu_> testing from another vm
[04:57] <ubuntu_> this thing actually works
 Sup folks
[04:57] <Guest81881> hello
[04:57] <Guest81881> i just downloaded a linux mint 1.0 vm
[05:32] <user|31945> live version
[05:33] <user|31945> is there a live version
[07:21] <masonbee-M> Hmmm, a couple of days ago my volume control disappeared from my status and notifications in taskbar....any idea how to get it back (Kubuntu 18.04 updated).
 How are you guys
[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning
 How r u
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:42] <theMetamorphosis> Hello BluesKaj
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hi theMetamorphosis
[11:50] <theMetamorphosis> I'd like to help KDE as a translator. I can translate KDE apps from English to Persian (Farsi) which is the official language in 4 countries and is spoken by over 120 million people.
[11:50] <theMetamorphosis> I've been translating projects like Uget and MegaGlest in Transefix website, but I couldn't find any KDE projects in there.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> theMetamorphosis, you should ask in #kubuntu-devel chat about translating
[11:53] <BluesKaj> you'll need to be patient for a response
[11:54] <theMetamorphosis> Thank you
[12:44] <wallbreaker> Hey folks, sorry if I'm just being slow. I'm experiencing the issue described here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411321 Can someone tell me what the specific CLI package I need is in order to launch ovpn config networks without receiving a 'Missing VPN Plugin' error?
[12:47] <wallbreaker> Actually here's the open launchpad bug as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1841767 Same issue and user.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> wallbreaker, I'm using openvpn , but I've never come across that plugin issue. The issue might be the network-manager-openvpn plugin core. It has to be installed separately from the repo.
[13:16] <aiena> I am trying to add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa it adds fine but on update I get Err:5 https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa eoan Release   404  Not Found [IP: 64:ff9b::5bbd:59df 443]. What could be the reason?
[13:16] <aiena> the paapis fully browseable on launchpad and there is a version for eon AFAIK
[13:16] <aiena> *ppa
[13:19] <BluesKaj> aiena, I'd like to help, but ppas aren't supported here sinced they're nondefault and considered experimental. Also many will no longer work or can break your system after kernel upgrades.
[13:20] <aiena> ok can you help me remove this ppa
[13:20] <aiena> restore it to vanilla state no packages were installed from it
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !ppa purge
[13:21] <aiena> hmm bot is down?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> https://itsfoss.com/how-to-remove-or-delete-ppas-quick-tip/ ...scroll down to the terminal method
[13:23] <RikMills> aiena: that ppa works just fine here on eoan
[13:23] <RikMills> maybe wait until later on and try again
[13:23] <aiena> RikMills: I think i goofed up somewhere.
[13:24] <aiena> because I cannot ppa purge the ppa either
[13:24] <aiena> error comes "E: The repository 'https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa eoan Release' does not have a Release file."
[13:24] <aiena> I had added the launchpad url by mistake with apt add-repositoy
[13:25] <aiena> like `  add-apt-repository https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa`
[13:25] <RikMills> remove the .list file that was created for it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:25] <RikMills> you never installed anything, so don't need to purge
[13:25] <RikMills> just delete the .list file
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yup, I've done that a few times
[13:27] <aiena> I deleted a list file called kritalime-ubuntu-ppa-eoan.list after running apt-update I still see this 'https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa' in apt-update
[13:28] <aiena> so is there some other place i have to check too
[13:28] <BluesKaj> aiena, remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list as well since it looks l;ike you added it there
[13:29] <RikMills> check in /etc/apt/sources.list to see if a wrong line was added to that. if so edit it out
[13:31] <aiena> RikMills: yes thank you
[13:31] <RikMills> :)
[13:32] <aiena> i think the .list file is the correct one added on the second run and the sources.list got edited by the launchpad url command
[13:34] <RikMills> sounds right. I haven't done it woring for a long time, so didn't immediately recall
[13:34] <RikMills> *wrong
[13:35] <eric-> hello
[13:40] <aiena> RikMills: you rock thanks a lot for you help
[13:40] <aiena> its all smooth and fine now
[13:41] <RikMills> :)
[15:10] <ecov> why is it when i insert a freshly formatted usb stick into my system it's owned by root :(
[15:10] <ecov> i guess its because "root" formatted the stick with KDE partition manager?
[15:12] <theMetamorphosis> Well, I guess you can't open Dolphin as root which is a security nonesense.
[15:13] <theMetamorphosis> https://iwf1.com/linux-users-bypass-executing-dolphin-as-root-is-not-possible-and-regain-your-kde-dolphin-root-privileges
[15:13] <theMetamorphosis> This guide might help.
[15:13] <oerheks> formatted to what filesystem?
[15:14] <ecov> ext4
[15:16] <oerheks> chown it to your user?
[15:18] <ecov> i guess i figured a newly created usb stick would be automatically chowned :P
[15:18] <ecov> dumb assumption
[16:39] <alexander__> hl
[16:47] <franzpow> I need help with my kubuntu pc. It's important. Today I can't boot my system. When I try to boot it up, after bios, I got the message of kernel starting and it stucks on loading initial ram disk...
[16:48] <franzpow> I can't do anything at this point. I can boot into command line and try something but I don't know where to start. Yesterday I installed OBS and maybe I updated my system that's all
[16:50] <diogenes_> franzpow, try an older kernel.
[16:51] <franzpow> I tried to boot with legacy.. but Had no luck
[16:51] <franzpow> I have installed low_latency and liquorix. Actually using the last one
[16:52] <masonbee-M> Hold Shift while booting to display grub and choose another kernel
[16:52] <masonbee-M> Can you boot off a USB stick?
[16:53] <franzpow> I can click on advanced boot options and select liquorix 5.5. or linux 5.3 generic and low latency but at this point nothing changes. Even if I select recovery mode
[16:53] <franzpow> It loads kernel and get stuck on loading initial ramdisk...
[16:54] <masonbee-M> That's fine, I was thinking more does the home volume exist and to back it up before anything else.
[16:56] <franzpow> I am booting via usb now
[16:56] <franzpow> I am gonna check if the disk is ok.. But I ran dell diagnose via bios and it gave me no errors
[16:59] <franzpow> I booted kubuntu via usb stick. What should I do now?
[17:03] <masonbee-M> Unfortunately the baby woke up but I would, unplug everything and try rebooting in case it is a hardware fault somewhere,  back up the home folder (eg; the important stuff) and then usually I just reinstall but that is cheating (it's just faster a lot of the time)/ run through these options, but back up first. http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/ways-to-rescue-or-recover-grub-menu
[17:04] <masonbee-M> diogenes_: What do you think?
[17:06] <franzpow> Is there a way to recover all the programs installed? I can't just fresh install.. too much work to reinstall anything
[17:06] <franzpow> would like to recover this installation.. maybe reinstalling an older kernel??
[17:07] <franzpow> Tried to reboot and starting again but I had no luck. Same error
[17:07] <franzpow> This is a laptopo
[17:07] <franzpow> *laptop
[17:08] <diogenes_> masonbee-M, when i just started with linux, i used to re-install the system several times a day until i learned how to handle it so yeah, re-installation is a panacea.
[17:11] <franzpow> Is there a way to backup all the files and program installed without reinstalling everything from scratch? If not I need to save this installation. I have to work with this pc.. my fault I didn't backup anything but I was using this machine with gloves to prevent things like this to happen..
[17:27] <franzpow> any of you guys can help?
[17:28] <theMetamorphosis> If you want to clone the whole disk (like what Norton Ghost does in Windows) you can try Clonezilla which is an FOSS alternative.
[17:28] <theMetamorphosis> Otherwise you can manually backup your data and you know what to do.
[17:29] <oerheks> !clone
[17:29] <oerheks> !backup
[17:30] <masonbee-M> Well, backup first but I have used the 4th option in the link I posted a few times and it has worked. You have to choose the right disk to install grub to from memory. But really, backup first. Because booting depends on the first part of the disk (does it still on modern disks, it did on msdos ones) it can bork your partition table is something goes wrong.
[17:30] <franzpow> hmmm can I clone it with clonezilla while booting with live stick usb?
[17:31] <franzpow> Yeah.. I was trying the first method but couldn't get it to work
[17:31] <franzpow> if cloning the drive via clonezilla and usbstick is possible, I will proceed in that way
[17:32] <masonbee-M> Here is the site for the boot repair tool. https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ for further reading.
[17:34] <masonbee-M> Just before you do that though, I have a distant memory of something similar happening because if my uefi settings. I changed OS and it wouldn't boot but it was because I had another OS specified in UEFI....vague memory.
[17:35] <franzpow> mmm I have no other os or dual boot.. I bought this pc with windows pre-installed and formatted installing kubuntu
[17:38] <masonbee-M> Doesn't hurt to look. What did you say the last things you installed before reboot were?
[17:38] <franzpow> I installed OBS.. a streaming software
[17:38] <franzpow> but had no erorrs or something like that
[17:39] <franzpow> and, If I remeber correctly, did some updates
[17:39] <masonbee-M> What version kubuntu?
[17:40] <franzpow> 19.10
[17:41] <franzpow> right now I am trying to use clonezilla
[17:41] <franzpow> I will update you if after backup I could recover via bootrepair or uefi settings
[17:44] <masonbee-M> OK. Try a quick search for problems with OBS and 19.10 as well. It does affect graphics packages. Look forward to find out.
[17:54] <franzpow> I should check it but I installed the same program on my other kubuntu 19.10 installation and had no problem at all.
[17:54] <franzpow> Other kubuntu system*
[17:58] <franzpow> Metamophosis: clonezilla gets stucked on scanning dir/tmp/oscroot_bind_root
[17:58] <franzpow> is this normal?
[17:59] <franzpow> Metamorphosis: is this normal?
[18:13] <Metamorphosis> franzpow I haven't used it in the past 5 years but they have very good documentation, alternatively you could ask them at #clonezilla
[19:11] <franzpow> nobody answered me
[19:11] <franzpow> on #clonezilla
[19:11] <franzpow> but I was thinking that's a bad idea to clone an entire disk that's not booting... when I restore it will I have problem? I think it will does not start..
[19:12] <Metamorphosis> I still don't understand your exact problem. Why don't you just copy your data to an external(or internal) hard drive and reinstall Kubuntu?
[19:13] <Metamorphosis> I prefer this approach to cloning disks which has always been risky.
[19:16] <franzpow> because I have to reinstall all the programs. Plus if I copy only home folder I will lose a lot of preset files  in the program folders.. right?
[19:17] <Metamorphosis> Sure, but that's the safest bet.
[19:17] <franzpow> I really hoped to avoid reinstalling everything cloning the ssd.. but that's not possible
[19:17] <Metamorphosis> And remember, no matter if you are reinstalling or cloning: backup your important data.
[19:18] <franzpow> I never learn by my errors.
[19:18] <franzpow> btw I successfully copied my home data with dejadup
[19:19] <Metamorphosis> That's good. A fresh install is always the best thing to do. That's my experience.
[19:49] <user|43788> how do I control the webcam and microphone? (disabling, enabling)
[19:55] <diogenes_> user|43788, applications handle that e.g. skype, discord etc.
[19:56] <user|43788> Thank you
 Hey boys
 Could someone help me restore the grub? On the Internet there are several tutorials that I have tried but none have worked for me
[21:29] <masonbee-M> This page seems OK to me. Babysitting so can't help more than that really. Backup first. http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/ways-to-rescue-or-recover-grub-menu
[21:30] <masonbee-M> Skip the windows one though unless you know you have borked your mbr.
 (Photo, 978x745) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/LCN3T9LC/file_25968.jpg Bad news Wannacry works on Kubuntu via Wine lol … (At least it does in my overlayfs sandbox)
[22:40] <franzpow> I reinstalled kubuntu and I had the same problem!
[22:40] <franzpow> I tried to switch from UEFI to legacy and finally it booted.. after that I restored it to UEFI
[22:41] <franzpow> masonbee-M: Maybe you were right afterall?
[23:14] <leaftype2> One thing that's still a problem on linux - when something doesn't work, I have no idea if it's my fault or not. Got a windows game on Steam that should be platinum no-hassle working... and it doesn't load
[23:29] <Metamorphosis> leaftype2 try explaining your problem at #steamlug
[23:30] <leaftype2> thanks Metamorphosis
[23:30] <leaftype2> will try that
[23:30] <Metamorphosis> And don't forget that Steam officially supports Linux, so you could try contacting their customer service.
[23:32] <leaftype2> Steam does, but this isn't one of their greenlisted titles
[23:32] <leaftype2> I was just relying on protondb
[23:34] <Metamorphosis> I hear you leaftype2, if you are into games, you can give FOSS games a try too. Linux gaming is really improved.
[23:37] <leaftype2> I've been on linux since 2006... have yet to see a FOSS game on par with a middle of the road commercial game
[23:37] <leaftype2> Battle for Wesnoth was pretty close though
[23:38] <Metamorphosis> If you are a fan of RTS games, give 0AD a go. Battle for Wesnoth is very deep and amazing.
[23:39] <leaftype2> Battle for Wesnoth is super deep, super amazing, workable graphics, but lacking polish in the balance, story, and UI design, last I checked
[23:39] <leaftype2> I haven't checked out 0 AD though in several years, might be worth looking at
[23:43] <Metamorphosis> Alien Arena, MegaGlest, OpenRA, Sauerbraten, The Dark Mod, The Saga of Ryzom, FreeCiv and Freedoom are also worth playing.
[23:43] <leaftype2> Though, on that note I did just learn that I'm literally getting no benefit from my fancy graphics card over the built-in vega graphics
[23:45] <leaftype2> Yeah... I've played half o fthose back before the steam days. It's what's convinced me that we gotta pay for games.
[23:45] <leaftype2> Like honestly if I could get someone to polish minetest until it was an equal UI to minecraft, I'd pay 20 bucks for it
[23:48] <Metamorphosis> leaftype2 Your contributions and donations will pave the way for better FOSS games. Feel free to help the developers.
[23:51] <leaftype2> Yeah... except that's not the relationship. If I throw hundreds of dollars at the game, it doesn't guarantee even a better \game