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AlligatorJoewow there is only 54 people here with crap video cards that need to run ubuntu mate01:29
AlligatorJoei am just checking in...the ubuntu-mate welcome program asks us to check into this channel01:32
AlligatorJoei thought there would be more people with crap video cards that would like to use ubuntu mate as a desktop01:33
AlligatorJoeit seems to make a decent desktop without requiring heavy graphics processing power.01:36
m4they my video card isn't crap!!!02:05
m4t;)02:05
AlligatorJoewell mine is not too good...but it manages to run mate which i am thankful for.02:08
AlligatorJoem4t what card do you have.02:08
m4tgeforce 650 ti02:08
m4tits kinda old tbh02:09
AlligatorJoewell geforce 650 can run some apps and it may be able to run plasma or gnome3...i don't know because i have not tested that card....but i am thankful that mate exists for poorer video cards like many people have.02:10
AlligatorJoeconsider mate the proletariat version of gnome02:12
m4ti originally switched because gnome3 wouldn't work on my old thinkpad t42p (circa 2005)02:13
AlligatorJoeand it is in pretty good shape02:13
m4ti was using gnome 2.32 but it was discontinued. i prefer the "classic" look to newer gnome look so i stuck with it even if my newer hardware could handle something fancier.02:14
AlligatorJoem4t..yes that is what a lot of people are going to run into...that is why i was surprised that only 54 people are here now02:14
m4tthere's #mate too02:14
AlligatorJoem4t...oh i did not know about that....the ubuntu-mate welcome app recommends this channel02:15
m4ti don't think irc users is necessarily representative of total users though02:15
AlligatorJoem4t...well maybe not...but it is a number that is readily available as a proxy...for possibly a proportional adjustment02:16
m4t¯\_(ツ)_/¯02:17
AlligatorJoem4t hey that is an interesting emoticon...reminds me of the days then games had characters as graphics objects02:18
AlligatorJoewhen not then02:18
m4thttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsu_(kana)02:18
AlligatorJoem4t oh ok i see the link....and i guess then that set of characters is a language...well it looks like an emoticon and it reminded me of very early days of the trs80model 1 and the airraid game with character symbols moving around the screen rather than graphically detailed objects02:21
m4tyeah it's a "shrug"02:22
AlligatorJoem4t ok thanks for letting me know02:22
AlligatorJoem4t i really like the font setting features in the mate desktop because my eyes are deteriorating and i can read larger text better...so i use ctrl++ a couple of times in the mate terminal and it is very nice but i had to change the colors to get better readability of various types of filenames such as links, directories, files,etc...and i changed the menu title font to 13 or so to get a much easier to read list of03:12
AlligatorJoeapps....and all in all it is a pretty good desktop...i don't see any weaknesses in it03:12
AlligatorJoei really like the ctrl++ in the terminal and it also works in firefox...but in links2 i had to set the font size to 30 and the html font option to 25 or so to get a nice readout of the slashdot website.03:14
AlligatorJoei have to use links2 because i have a very slow internet connection most of the time03:15
AlligatorJoeso i just made a new profile called testing for the mate terminal rather than changing the default in case i needed to go back to it...and i told the mate terminal to use the testing profile on application launch...and it works very well03:17
AlligatorJoeand the original default is still there in case something ever goes wrong03:18
AlligatorJoei also had to change the theme to custom where i made a couple of changes to the traditional theme to get much better readability on things.03:20
AlligatorJoeand the mate-desktop was able to handle all of that quite well03:20
AlligatorJoeevery so often the brisk menu crashes for various reasons but it seems to be able to recover in every case so far03:23
AlligatorJoealso i had to compile nautilus anyway because acetoneiso and some other apps only have hookins for nautilus and the kde file manager and thunar...or so...but it really doesn't have any features that caja lacks. ...so caja is just as useful...and i guess i could have made a link to caja called nautilus to solve the hooks issues...but i needed to compile the gnome-builder code anyway so natilus was not difficult once the03:26
AlligatorJoebuilder code was able to compile03:26
AlligatorJoeof course any changes i make ...anyone is welcome to....as part of the gnu agreement...but so far no one has asked for any files.03:28
AlligatorJoethere is a small issue and that is the colors of the traditional theme on which the custom theme is based are different from the mate login screen colors which went with the original mate theme....and i guess i will have to locate that jpeg or png or whatever that login screen is and replace it with a matching picture of this new custom theme...but that is not really a problem it is simply cosmetics and can be done03:35
AlligatorJoewhenever.03:35
AlligatorJoeand i also noticed that pluma now uses the system font ubuntu mono 14 which seems to work out quite nicely for readability of text files or whatever documents you want to load into pluma and the menus are much more readable as well.03:39
AlligatorJoeso just like in the final fantasy 9 game ....the Proletariat version of gnome....is basically just as useful as the gnome3 stuff as far as i can tell.03:43
AlligatorJoeand i really like that it doesn't mess with the sound system so apps like players and DAW apps can have sole access to the also device for better quality work.03:46
AlligatorJoealsa03:46
AlligatorJoei also made a larger mouse cursor that i could see while moving it around the screen by about 50% larger and that seems to work out much better for me personally.03:55
AlligatorJoeanyway the key point is that mate accomadated all those types of changes for personal environments that depend on a person's eyesight.04:00
AlligatorJoewell i won't be able to say much as ubuntu has banned me from the channel so i don't know how long i can use this one before being banned07:29
AlligatorJoei'll just go on record to say that mate is in fairly good shape and supports many more video cards than just the latest and greatest.07:30
AlligatorJoefor those who have better video cards they can run gnome3 or unity3d or plasma.....depending on which chips they buy and which desktops the particular gpu manufacturer supports...but they can also run the less sophisticated mate desktop if they want to.07:37
AlligatorJoeall that sophistication and snobbery reminds me of the bougoise nobility....which as you know are different than the proletariat...as depicted in final fantasy number 9 game.07:43
AlligatorJoeor perhaps Jim Croche said it well in his song "Car Wash Blues"07:45
AlligatorJoebut you would have to speak english to understand the words in Jim Croche's song with regards to high rise society news.07:56
AlligatorJoetrageically, he was reportedly killed in an airplane crash at a young age but his song remains with us.08:00
skookumjust..wow18:31
EickmeyerThey were warned several times to keep the chatter in #ubuntu to a minimum and they couldn't.18:44
GumaHello, I have problem accessing my local NAS. While back after initial fr ash install (18.04) I was able to access my NAs just fine. I guess somewhere after some updates it stop working.21:14
GumaWhen I got to Browse Network I click Windows Network and soon after I get popup dialog box sating21:14
Guma Unable to mount location in title bar21:15
GumaFailed to retrieve share list from server: No such file or directory21:16
sixwheeledbeastSo it's samba share?21:20
sixwheeledbeastCan you access it from any other devices on the LAN?21:20
GumaYes I can access from other machines just fine21:27
GumaDo I need to apt-get install samba?21:27
GumaLooks like iti s not installed on my machine that has problem. Not sure why it was removed.21:27
GumaOk installed samba. Now I see Windows Networks and icon for my hostname. Now when I enter Window Network I do not get error anymore. But my nas is not listed there. Well actually the list is enpty21:30
sixwheeledbeastyou may have either smbfs or cifs-utils21:31
sixwheeledbeastI assume you tried rebooting first?21:32
GumaSo should I uninstall samba? I do not need to run server on this machine. I just need to access remote shares21:32
sixwheeledbeastI think samba is for hosting a samba share, but it shouldn't be an issue.21:33
Gumaok I installed cifs-utils. Still can not see my share. Do I have to restart some services?21:35
GumaDo I have to have samba-ad-dc running?21:39
sixwheeledbeastMaybe just reboot?21:41
Gumalet me try reboot21:46
GumaThat did the trick. sixwheeledbeast thanx.22:01
sixwheeledbeastno problem22:01
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