[06:18] <cpaelzer> migth I ask a SRU team member for https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/britney/hints-ubuntu-xenial-pg-update-march-2020/+merge/380811
[06:18] <cpaelzer> that is the only one holding back a xenial update for postgres
[06:18] <cpaelzer> well it might hold up more than that, but of that I know
[09:37] <LocutusOfBorg> hello seb128 libhandy sync?
[09:37] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, hey, feel free if you want?
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> ack! I wanted to check the diff with you before
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> I see your changes merged differently in debian
[09:46] <LocutusOfBorg> lets see if autopkgtests are green
[10:52]  * Laney eyes icu and eveything a bit
[11:19] <jamespage> please can the ceph 14.2.7 updates in eoan UNAPPROVED be rejected - 14.2.8 has been out a while now so not worth putting users through two sets of updates
[11:30] <rbalint> Laney, could you please eye LP: #1868500, too for systemd? :-)
[11:31] <Laney> rbalint: would love to, but not in ubuntu-archive
[11:31] <Laney> :'(!
[11:31] <rbalint> ah, my bad, doko then?
[11:55] <sil2100> jamespage: done
[11:56] <sil2100> rbalint: I guess I could take a look
[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ceph [source] (eoan-proposed) [14.2.7-0ubuntu0.19.10.1]
[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ceph [source] (eoan-proposed) [14.2.7-0ubuntu0.19.10.1]
[11:57] <jamespage> sil2100: ta
[12:00] <rbalint> sil2100, thanks, please!
[12:23] <Laney> why does this node-chokidar test work when I run it manually but not when it's triggered by the worker :(
[12:25] <Laney> even from the same machine
[12:36] <sil2100> rbalint: commented on the bug with a question, if you could take a look
[12:46] <rbalint> sil2100, thanks, checking
[13:08] <ahasenack> hi release team, I'd like to update bind9 to 9.16.1 (from 9.16.0), here is the FFe bug with details on what changed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/1868272
[13:54] <coreycb> hello release team, I'd like to upload python-decorator 4.4.2 (currently 4.3.0). it's mostly bug fixes with one slight new feature that is backward-compatible. here's the delta of commits: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nkGmDRxjkF/  -- the new version is needed by new versions of python-openstacksdk
[14:02] <stgraber> can an ubuntu-release team member look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxcfs/+bug/1867541 please?
[14:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: pydrive (focal-proposed/primary) [1.3.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:47] <rbalint> Laney, could you please check the systemd hint review again?
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libinih [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [48-1] (no packageset)
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[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libinih [amd64] (focal-proposed) [48-1]
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libinih [armhf] (focal-proposed) [48-1]
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libinih [s390x] (focal-proposed) [48-1]
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libinih [arm64] (focal-proposed) [48-1]
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libinih [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [48-1]
[15:32] <mfo> sil2100, hey Lukasz.  If you still have a chance (sorry, I see it's almost 5PM there) the util-linux SRU for bionic has a autopkgtest regression failure on mysql-5.7 that's unrelated to the upload (confirmed by running w/ the version in the updates pocket), so if it's at all possible to release it based on that info, or maybe later this week, that would be nice :)  thanks!
[15:57] <sil2100> mfo: hey! I have a few meetings right now, but I'll look into that once I'm done with those ;)
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ec2-hibinit-agent (bionic-proposed/main) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~18.04.3 => 1.0.0-0ubuntu4~18.04.4] (no packageset)
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ec2-hibinit-agent (eoan-proposed/main) [1.0.0-0ubuntu7 => 1.0.0-0ubuntu7.1] (no packageset)
[16:24] <rbalint> sil2100, could you please take a look at these, too? ^
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> Hello all. I have a bug 1868280 opened, and teward and I would like some clarification since there seems to be some disagreement from other flavor leads about whether or not a simple theme update even needs a UIFe/FFe since it doesn't contain significant color changes.
[16:36] <mfo> sil2100, ack, thanks!
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> So, if we can get that one question answered, whether or not we even need that FFe/UIFe bug, then that would be nice. It'd be something we can simply take off of the release team's plate.
[16:40] <teward> Laney: sil2100: ^ re: materia-gtk-theme if one of you gets a minute
[16:40] <teward> (you were both around recently, hence the ping)
[16:49] <dannf> does enabling the build of a new utility from a source package require an FFe (adds lib deps)? i filed one at LP: #1868174 in case it does
[17:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ceph [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [15.1.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[17:16] <sil2100> Eickmeyer, teward: I'll try looking into that today or tomorrow straight in the morning o/
[17:17] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: The question is even if the FFe/UIFe bug is even necessary. There seem to be some disagreements.
[17:19] <ahasenack> hi release team, python-geoip2 mir is done (https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.html), task is marked "in progress" but there is nothing else to do on my side
[17:19] <ahasenack> vorlon`: that was part of that seed change
[17:20] <ahasenack> "that seed change" = https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/380547
[17:20] <Laney> Eickmeyer: If you have a documentation team then you should consult with them. Otherwise, don't bother imho
[17:21] <Laney> rbalint: Sorry, missed your message, will try to look if possible today
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> Laney: Yeah, there's no documentation changes whatsoever on that one.
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> teward: ^
[17:22] <teward> ack
[17:22] <teward> Laney: so JFDI then?
[17:24] <Laney> Eickmeyer: It doesn't mean 'there is no documentation in the change'.
[17:24] <Laney> It means that the change doesn't affect the documentation, i.e. if there are screenshots then they would be broken.
[17:26] <Eickmeyer> Laney: No screenshots are broken by this change.
[17:27] <Laney> You don't have to answer me on this change, I'm giving you the toolbox to answer for yourself. :-)
[17:27] <Eickmeyer> Ok, cool.
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> This does remind me, though, that I need to start working on release notes. ;P
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu7.1]
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~18.04.4]
[17:38] <Eickmeyer> Laney: so, to reiterate teward's question: JFDI?
[17:40] <Laney> You can do if you decide it doesn't need an exception
[17:41] <Eickmeyer> Laney: Thanks.
[18:01] <teward> Laney: we JFDI and uploaded, it's been accepted and is being processed.
[18:01] <teward> thanks for peeking at it :)
[18:01] <teward> OH I need to bother you on other things too :P)
[18:01] <teward> but that can wait until post-release
[18:58] <ahasenack> hi release team, I'd like to update bind9 to 9.16.1 (from 9.16.0), here is the FFe bug with details on what changed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/1868272
[19:04] <ahasenack> sil2100: ^ if you can
[19:57] <cpaelzer> an SRU member around to consider merging https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/britney/hints-ubuntu-xenial-pg-update-march-2020/+merge/380811 ?
[20:13] <ahasenack> stgraber: could you perhaps please take a look at the bind9 ffe above?
[20:14] <stgraber> ahasenack: yeah, will take a look. You don't have anyone on the server team who's on the release team do you? I'd have some FFEs to trade :)
[20:14] <ahasenack> hah, there's a thought
[20:14] <ahasenack> what are the requisites?
[20:14] <ahasenack> we have MIR, SRU
[20:14] <ahasenack> not release
[20:15] <bryce> stgraber, josh mentioned you were available to help with removing php-horde-*?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-horde/+bug/1868281  Steve made good progress Friday but it's a long list of packages.
[20:16] <bryce> stgraber, I am trying to rework my list to just the php-horde items needed to unblock php-defaults, but the whole php-horde-* stack will need to go eventually
[20:16] <stgraber> ahasenack: granted
[20:16] <ahasenack> stgraber: as is, without reverting upstream's decision on those pthread locks?
[20:17] <ahasenack> fwiw debian took the same route
[20:17] <stgraber> ahasenack: right, focal has the needed glibc bits, so no need to undo upstream's change
[20:17] <ahasenack> cool, thanks
[20:17] <stgraber> and I'm not super fond of random userspace having their own implementation of bits like that :)
[20:17] <ahasenack> that's so true
[20:17] <ahasenack> I watched a bind9 presentation the other day, where they were talking about this development cycle
[20:17] <ahasenack> and "code cruft"
[20:18] <ahasenack> they had many things implemented by themselves, because early OSs didn't have the features they needed
[20:18] <ahasenack> think, I don't know, vax/vms
[20:18] <ahasenack> old solaris, that kind of stuff
[20:18] <ahasenack> and they took this 9.16 cycle to start to get rid of that
[20:18] <stgraber> bryce: if you can comment with the list of packages that still need to go away, that'd be helpful
[20:20] <bryce> stgraber, ok will do
[20:42] <bryce> stgraber, I've posted the updated dependency tree of all php-horde-* packages.
[20:43] <bryce> stgraber, I'm working on identifying the specific priorities to remove, that should let php-defaults migrate, but the dependency tree is a bit tricky.
[20:43] <mwhudson> uh should our autopkgtest infra set all of http_proxy, HTTP_PROXY, no_proxy, NO_PROXY etc etc
[20:45] <stgraber> bryce: that's a lot of packages :)
[20:47] <bryce> stgraber, indeed :-/
[20:47] <bryce> like I said, I'm working on making a narrower list but the dependency network is pretty thick
[20:48] <bryce> stgraber, also I think there might be a bit of circular dependency with php-horde itself
[20:48] <stgraber> bryce: since the goal is to remove php-horde and php-horde-* I'm currently checking whether there are any rdepends or r-build-depends outside of that set
[20:48] <stgraber> bryce: if not, I'd just nuke the entire set
[20:48] <bryce> stgraber, that would be great
[20:49] <bryce> I haven't spotted anything outside this set
[20:49] <stgraber> what we don't want is to cause breakage outside of php-horde* but if there's nothing outside of those that rdepends or build-depends on it, then it should be fine
[20:49] <bryce> right
[20:49] <stgraber> just running a loop of reverse-depends and reverse-depends -b to make sure
[20:51] <stgraber> yeah, nothing outside of that set is going to break
[20:51] <stgraber> bryce: and you've confirmed that this is all the php-horde-* packages?
[20:51] <bryce> stgraber, correct
[20:52] <stgraber> bryce: all in the release pocket or are there some that need nuking from proposed too?
[20:54] <bryce> stgraber, I believe php-horde-* only has stuff in released, but I wouldn't swear by it.
[20:54] <bryce> looking...
[20:54] <stgraber> nuking from release pocket now
[20:55] <bryce> php-horde-image is in proposed
[20:55] <stgraber> ah, will need to do a special run for that one then
[20:56] <bryce> also php-horde-icalendar
[20:57] <bryce> those two are only ones I'm spotting on update_excuses.html
[20:58] <stgraber> yeah, the package index agrees with that
[21:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-dev-tools [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.175~18.04.1]
[22:02] <bryce> stgraber, thanks :-)
[22:03] <stgraber> np, I just hope I didn't break anything :) getting a bit rusty
[23:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (eoan-proposed/main) [5.3.0-1017.18] (core, kernel)
[23:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-5.3 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-1017.18~18.04.1] (no packageset)
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