[00:02] Flannel..okay...well i hope i am not advocating anything...i dislike choosing sides on any issuel. [00:03] Flannel it is much better to straddle the fence rather than to come down on one side or the other [00:04] AlligatorJoe: No worries. And yeah, I may have misread your last. But again, you're more than welcome to provide technical support here. We just like to keep the chatter down so it's easier for people to get technical support. That's why we provide other places for chat and conversations. [00:11] Hi all, can someone tell me what log file I'd look in to see if PHP is sending email via mail() ? [00:11] theborger: looking at this page, https://wiki.debian.org/msmtp there are some differences with your config file [00:13] Katronix, I don't think there is a log entry made for that... you might want to ask in ##php [00:14] did you set/enable in your php.ini; /var/log/phpMail.log ? [00:14] pragmaticenigma I did, they advised checking email logs. Just not sure which one to check [00:14] that is where you find the real name, if any [00:14] oerheks didn't know that was an option [00:15] it needs some steps too, chown the mail-user /var/log/phpMail.log [00:15] else it won be written, ofcourse [00:27] oerheks who did you say had to own phpMail.log? [00:29] oh there it is, ty [00:29] have fun! [00:30] not sure which owner to put it under.. same as Exim? or dovecot? [00:44] ok i am calling it a day....doesn't sound like there are too many serious problems although there are still quite a few in regards to gaming and database centers...see you later maybe...bye all === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [01:15] Hello. I am trying to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 18.04 to work with Cuda 10.0 but I cannot make it work. [01:16] I created a question here https://askubuntu.com/q/1219399/257686 Can you help me please? [01:23] Good evening [01:24] I'm having trouble logging into my desktop through the default login screen [01:24] Ubuntu studio LTS [01:24] I have a separate /home partition, and I ran into an issue where I had to resize my / partition [01:25] Ubiquity4321: Just to clarify, 20.04 or 18.04? [01:25] 18.04 [01:26] phibonacci, given the nature of your issue, I would recommend sticking to the thread you hvae on askubuntu. The community will benefit better if both your issue and solution can be found in the same place. [01:26] Ubiquity4321: Thanks. Not that I can help right now, just wanted to get that clarified for those that can. [01:26] !ubuntustudio-backports | Ubiquity4321 Also, don't forget this [01:26] Ubiquity4321 Also, don't forget this: The Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer [01:34] pragmaticenigma: I will update my question wherever the solution comes from [01:35] I just tried the .run from nvidia website without the DKMS but it did not change anything [01:41] wow. i am really surprised there is only 54 people in ubuntu-mate....i thought there would be a lot more people with crap video cards that could use a decent desktop without requiring heavy handed graphics processing power. [01:42] considering this channel lists 1,203 ubuntu users [01:44] Any recommendations/guides for a well supported graphics card? [01:45] baraba..it is hard to say as there is still ongoing work with many video drivers like vulcan and opengl and directx and the xvideo driver....so hardware manufacturers are scrambling to keep up with the ever changing specs for a deccent graphics card...so it is difficult to recommend any particular one [01:46] AMD recently put out a press release stating they want to make better linux drivers [01:47] I'm not going for bleeding edge. Just a decent GPU, proven on Ubuntu [01:49] AlligatorJoe what do you mean with decent desktop ? [01:49] baraba well i can only talk about the old days....i found that ati would run some programs and not others and the same thing was true for nvidia but they would differ on which programs the cards would run...and now intel can run a few...so they have to be considered too....but with the changing specs to accomodate future applications for the newer drivers...it is difficult to pin down which card you should use.. [01:51] baraba i recommend you talking by phone to the various hardware manufacturers that can see what apps you are interested in and let you know if they have a card or chip that will accomodate them [01:52] ...That sounds rather unlikely to work out. [01:54] well i can't think of any better way than to get the advice from the specific graphics gpu hardware specialist about what apps their various cards have been able to run....since they are not all the same [01:54] AlligatorJoe, Please again, stop [01:56] pragmatic....well okay but i am just trying to state "Caveat Emptor" and the need to make careful decisions with regard to applications desired and which hardware can accomodate them. [01:56] Good day people [01:57] on Ubuntu 16.04, I got this error "E: Method https has died unexpectedly!" when doing an "apt-get update" [01:57] I wonder what can I do to fix this [01:57] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sCz2GRkXkp/ [01:57] AlligatorJoe, This is a support channel, topics are limtied and should only pertain to receiving and offering specific help to the issue at hand. Discussion about personal feelings or history of linux is not allowed here and you have been asked several times to discontinue it. Stick to the support only, and leave your personally feelings and musings for #ubuntu-offtopic [01:58] Hi all, can someone look at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mP3RZJpJw3/ not sure why I'm getting this error, can't find the character that awk says I have in the file. [01:59] pragmatic...okay but baraba had a question about what graphics card he should invest in [02:15] fairuz, maybe paste your sources list [02:16] thx, AlligatorJoe, basically I'm just looking for a screen tear less experience, and I want them all apps to work LOL, is that too much to ask [02:20] baraba https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qn437c9dQF/ [02:22] Katronix, those quotes (around cwd= and the awk code) are in fact high bit characters. Did you copy/paste this in from some word processor doc? [02:23] no I copied it from a website [02:23] Hullo. I used pv [02:23] should I just replace them with ' ? [02:23] maybe normal quotes [02:24] fairuz, any in the sources.list.d dir? [02:25] baraba yes, there are quite a number [02:25] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/85mRdJJq4T/ [02:25] baraba: To be fair though, what you've told us so far, is about the most unspecific description of what you really want to use your system for. Based on that, even a built-in Intel graphics should be sufficient. [02:26] thanks rfm [02:27] my PC restarts randomly on linux when I use integrated graphics :( krytarik, it's a relatively new board [02:27] Hullo. I was screwing around, making a thumb drive, and I used "pv XP32bit.iso > /dev/sdb" when I really meant "/dev/sdc" soooo, I lost about 800MB at the beginning of my external hard drive and torched the file system. Can anyone suggest a way to recover whatever's left of my data? [02:28] baraba: Well, not mine by a long shot. [02:30] fairuz, maybe run the update with some debug logging [02:30] Moogus_Show, I assume you stopped using drive as already suggested, but easiest fix is just restore backups.. you likely wiped your partition table so recovery isn't quick/easy; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery maybe helpful [02:32] I guess its a good thing that that command didn't return anything === lestac is now known as don_memorario [02:34] baraba how to do that if I maya sk [02:34] *may ask [02:34] guiverc, I'm learning as I go. I've been running foremost for, like, eternity and I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right. I know at this point I'm looking at forensic-type stuff [02:37] fairuz, https://askubuntu.com/questions/347830/how-can-i-get-a-verbose-apt-get-exit-code === don_memorario is now known as lestac === zbenjamin is now known as Guest1518 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === nt0_ is now known as nt0 === Roey is now known as duckgoose === duckgoose is now known as Roey === Roey is now known as FixedDuckGoose === FixedDuckGoose is now known as Roey === PornFish is now known as ViCi [04:03] ViCi: PornFish was a great nick [04:04] :) [04:33] hello everyone i have installed ubuntu 18.04 on my vps also i have installed nginx and i want to open port 80 but when i check the ip address and port 80 on some test open port they says the port is close ? [04:35] iresf: is nginx running? [04:35] ires..isn't nginx just YAWS or yet another web server.... [04:36] ires you may need to start it with systemd if you are using systemd [04:36] illuminated yes [04:36] iresf what does "sudo ufw status" say? [04:36] @Alli [04:37] AlligatorJoe i did it [04:37] illuminated nginx full and nginx http , https. , 80/tcp [04:38] iresf does it say allow or deny on 80/tcp [04:39] allow [04:39] i can not also ping to my vps [04:39] what does systemctl status nginx say? [04:39] irest ok..well the thing is what do you want a web server for? the dot-com bust destroyed all the code usefulness of years ago...now everyone just puts their website with godaddy or someone they like since everything has been consolidated and it is usually much cheaper than trying to host your own web server. [04:40] @iresf can the firewall be the problem? [04:41] irest...many years ago i built an auction server to compete with ebay.....but it became cost probitive to try to host it on the web so everything just got consolidated into ebays site [04:43] sebasspf89 no i think [04:43] it was basically a LAMP system with a database server and some extra code to accomodate large client numbers but no one messes with that old code from many years ago...the dotcom bust put an end to all of that [04:43] maybe do a "systemctl ufw stop" or something [04:43] stop the firewall [04:43] illuminated it says nginx is active. [04:43] see if it's still having issues [04:43] yeah, but stop the firewall [04:43] make sure that isn't blocking something [04:44] ok [04:46] illuminated i did , it didnt work. [04:47] hmm... [04:48] maybe you have to do something in the provider's control panel to open up ports to your ip [04:48] idk [04:48] I believe in AWS you have to do that.. so maybe also in whatever you got goin on [04:49] if you've disabled the firewall and still can't access a web server you know to be active, then, idk [04:50] when you do a "netstat -tulpn" do you see anything listening on port 80/443? [04:51] yes i see [04:55] iresf then sorry man.. idk. you've verified the server is running and listening, and you've disabled the firewall on the system.. sounds more and more like a provider thing, like they're blocking ports before traffic even hits your box.. [04:55] Hello [04:55] *** System restart required *** [04:55] yes you are right [04:56] I found this message on my VPS after logging in today. [04:56] How can I find out specifically what is requiring the restart? [04:56] thank you illuminated [04:56] I use Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on my VPS [04:56] iresf ya man, sorry couldn't get you going.. [04:57] irest it could be part of the dotcom bust where the isp's began consolidating the web business all to themselves....and they can block traffic to your listening ports...so that it becomes cheaper and really so to just use their web hosting services. [05:06] Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings (but I can wget it, so I dunno why it says this) [06:07] New installation of 18.04 partition and I started up the computer and looked away and it's into mem test. How did this happen? [06:08] I'm going to let it run all night anyway [06:12] I installed a DE (or so I thought) of Pantheon/elementary on an Ubuntu computer and now it only sees elementary -- which doesn't work. I could drop to shell and remove this offensive stuff if I only knew how. It balks on caja- follows by 2 chars. It still looks like the previous mate except for color but the splash screen says elementary and Debian [06:12] . The gnome screen says elementary in front of each instance of Ubuntu which I believe are on different partitions. Quelle mess. [06:17] That is an HP-Probook and I cannot get throught the protections of Windows to book off a USB. (I had done it in the past but I forgot how. It was a particular boot s rwwn thing every time. O get to the boot screen but.. I am not doing whatever worked. The last time I tried that computer it would not see the Ethernet - thobit worked yesterday and wo [06:17] rks on the Pentium doing the memteat. On Ssung M461B5773CHS-CH9 chips (ram) [06:17] Even if no one answers it was good for me to express the two computers and their very unexpected problems [06:18] I've got some other RAM here but I don't know what I did with it. So morning will come. [06:20] Screenshot of my issues [06:31] i have a systemd timer that doesn't work; the service works; the script it executes works; https://bpaste.net/raw/IROQ === th_ is now known as Guest26419 [08:55] Hello all, I'm using Kubuntu 18.04 and I can't see apps installed with Snap in the KDE menus. [08:55] Is there a workaround ? [09:01] Having trouble getting my headphone's in-built mic to be detected by linux mate on my asus laptop. Details: [09:03] inux version 4.15.0-92-generic. driver=snd_hda_intel No errors in journalctl -f when connecting disconnecting device === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 === An4l_xtrem_troll is now known as Xtrem_troll === raitless is now known as rait [10:06] Having trouble getting my headphone's in-built mic to be detected by linux mate on my asus laptop. Details: Linux version 4.15.0-92-generic. driver=snd_hda_intel No errors in journalctl -f when connecting disconnecting device. alsamixer says "This sound device does not have any capture controls." [10:39] hi. [10:39] i want to split terminal window to use 4 or 6 terminals on one screen [10:39] i know there is tmux but copy&paste between X windows and tmux is really terrible [10:40] is there an app to interact between gui and terminal easily and split terminals? [10:48] I'm trying to disable unattended-upgrades. When I run the command "sudo apt-get remove unattended-upgrades" it tells me the resource is temporarily unavailable and doesn't work. Any ideas? [11:02] good day [11:11] Hello I am trying to uninstall virtualbox and I cant do it [11:11] I get errors from dkms [11:13] actually wait, apt-get remove virtualbox-dkms worked [11:13] I was doing `remove virtualbox' previously [11:13] yay! we dit it [11:14] !cookie | p0a [11:14] p0a: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [11:14] `apt purge virtualbox*` just to be sure. :> [11:14] p0a: I urge you use apt purge .... [11:14] p0a: not apt remove .... [11:15] p0a: apt remove would leave you with all configuration files laying around. [11:15] eeos: and then what would I do instead? btw configuration files are okay [11:16] as far as I understand it the configuration files are useful in case I decide to reinstall [11:16] p0a: you are exactly correct [11:16] p0a: apt purge virtualbox* [11:17] p0a: of course, but if you decide to reinstall a later version that is not backward compatible, they may give you some issues [11:17] p0a: If you intend to reinstall later, and there was nothing wrong with your configuration, then there is no reason to use purge. However, if you believe it will be some amount of time before you reinstall, you might want to consider purge, as it will avoid unexpected behaviors later when you do decide to reinstall [11:17] p0a: (configuration files and virtual disks / images are not the same of course .... just to clarify) [11:17] got it, thank you [11:17] p0a: exactly what pragmaticenigma said! [11:36] Howdy folks [11:39] When I try to install a package on a pc with no internet access I end up with the message for unmet dependencies and a failed install. Is there a way to check unmet dependencies without installing the package? [11:39] anyone knows how to get a color profile for my screen? It's a S19E310 [11:40] Well, nvm [11:48] lestac: Were you able to figure it out on your own? [12:08] gnome it's not available for 18.04 LTS? [12:09] lestac: what are you asking? [12:13] It's going to take 401h36m15 to run PhotoRec on my external hard drive [12:18] lestac: Can you please provide more detail about what you're asking? Your question doesn't appear complete [12:20] Moogus_Show: If you were writing data to the wrong disk... the data is gone.. there is no way to recover data once it has been overwritten [12:21] *the original data is gone [12:26] pragmaticenigma: I wrote about 750MB of data to the beginning of a 1.5TB drive containing about 250GB of data. Won't the rest of my stuff be there after the section that was overwritten? [12:35] Moogus_Show: It's possible the data will still be there... however the recovery tools out there are doing a byte-by-byte scan. If it was me, I'd take it as a learning moment to back up your data, and consider the data gone. [12:38] pragmaticenigma: The drive I mistakenly wrote to was my back up your data. I'm just going to have to suck it up and run my machine for 17 days and see what I get back. [12:42] It's kind of impressive to write 750GB of data mistakenly [12:42] 750MB [12:43] oh, you only wrote 750MB ? yeah your data is still there [12:43] I'm smart so I used pv as root and selected the wrong drive letter. Oops. [12:43] :-D [12:44] Moogus_Show: have you restarted the computer? [12:44] (if not, do not restart it) [12:45] p0a: yes, unfortunately, I restarted [12:45] Moogus_Show: first thing to do is clone your hard drive [12:45] p0a: Any ideas on just getting my photos out, besides running PhotoRec for 17 days? [12:46] any future attempts to fix your data should be doned in the cloned version [12:46] Moogus_Show: take a look at https://askubuntu.com/a/982649 === lestac is now known as lestac_afk [12:51] Moogus_Show: As I mentioned before, these tools are doing a byte-by-byte scan of the entire drive. It is going to take a long time to scan a large drive like that [12:52] p0a: understood. thank you for the link! I previously used Testdisk to try and recover the partition table and file system from the end of the disk. It appears it may have worked, but I am afraid to stop running PhotoRec for a couple of reasons. I can see my old disk/partition on my desktop with it's correct label, looking as if I can just right-click and mount it. [12:53] pragmaticenigma: 16.66 days, in fact! [12:53] As we speak I'm down to 399h36min54 --open to other ideas [12:54] Moogus_Show: it's possible that the drive information is cached and that's why it looks like that. chances are, you might recover some files... certainly not the files that were at the beginning of the drive. There are no other methods for data recovery. It's a painstaking process [12:54] I'm going to need a pallet of popcorn. [12:54] Moogus_Show: The only other method would be to ship the drive to a data recovery company [12:54] or to copy it to a fast computer with an SSD hard drive [12:55] p0a: that doesn't work [12:55] Oh, why not? IT would make the tool run faster [12:55] p0a: in fact p0a that would obliterate the data completely [12:55] I don't understand why [12:56] p0a: Data recovery can only be done from the original device. Without an active file allocation table... the resulting image would just be random noise on the destination media. [12:56] Yes, my computer is ancient. It's a hand-me-down from c2006. That's what I love about linux. [12:56] Hey there, trying to Dual Boot install a Linux distro onto my work laptop. Ubuntu's installer tries to install to the USB stick rather than the disk. fdisk -l doesn't contain the SATA disk in it at all. I assume this is related to Windows disk encryption. [12:57] pragmaticenigma: you can clone the device, right? [12:58] Theoretically, I would have to clone the ENTIRE 1.5TB device, right? Is there any way to just work with the section that actually has data on it? [12:58] p0a: To put it simply, with data recovery, you must use the original device. Cloning tools will attempt to interpret the data blocks, which may put them out of order [12:58] Moogus_Show: Just please stop... I'm really getting tired of repeating myself [12:59] Copy that [12:59] Chrys3557: First question, do you have the blessing of your employer to be installing a second OS on your machine? [12:59] pragmaticenigma Not only do I have the blessing, I have been told to. [12:59] Chrys3557: Then why isn't their IT department helping you? [13:00] pragmaticenigma It's a 7 person company. There is no IT department. [13:00] Chrys3557: "sudo lsblk" to locate (names of) devices [13:01] Chrys3557: what Ubuntu release are you trying to install? [13:02] TJ- let me boot back into Ubuntu via the USB. [13:02] Chrys3557: It might be that the machine is configured for UEFI and you are using the wrong installer [13:02] TJ- Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS [13:03] TJ- "sudo lsblk" only comes up with the USB stick [13:06] Chrys3557: try `hwinfo' ? [13:07] something like `hwinfo --disk' [13:07] p0a: hwinfo not found, can't seem to install it with apt install either [13:07] Chrys3557, parted -l should see the disk also if encrypted with bitlocker, so might be a sata mode issue (from RAID to AHCI mode) [13:09] ioria: parted -l only brings up the USB [13:09] pragmaticenigma: thanks, that is something I didn't know (or expect). Surprising to me that you can't clone a hard drive byte for byte [13:09] Chrys3557: does the liveISO have network access? [13:09] Chrys3557, check in bios the SATA mode selected [13:10] Chrys3557: https://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/sata-mode3.jpg [13:10] Chrys3557: if so "sudo apt install pastebinit; pastebinit <( dmesg )" [13:11] it should be mentioned that it says online that if you change the modes, you will get a `blue screen of death' in next Windows boot [13:11] so maybe don't do that yet [13:11] ioria: Intel RST Premium with Intel Optane System Acceleration; AHCI is the other choice. [13:11] ha [13:12] Chrys3557, what machine is that ? [13:12] ioria: Asus VivoBook S15 === sorin-mihai__ is now known as sorin-mihai [13:13] Chrys3557, not sure you can install ubuntu on that device [13:14] ioria: is there another distro that I could install or am I going to have to virtual box this? [13:15] Chrys3557, i was referring to dual boot situatio (you might try to disable optane in windows) [13:15] ioria: Chrys3557: probably need to disable fast startup in windows too? [13:16] Chrys3557, go with VM (if you ask me) [13:16] pragmaticenigma: Fast Boot is already disabled [13:16] in BIOS anyway. [13:17] Chrys3557, but it would be silly to disable such a feature [13:19] ioria: Didn't change it, was already like that from the box apparently. [13:19] Chrys3557: Fast Boot != Fast Startup [13:21] pragmaticenigma, alright, going to go disable it and see if it works better after. [13:22] Chrys3557, someone did it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uXgbF3P2F8 [13:25] ioria, thanks I'll have a look. [13:32] hi [13:32] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4hM3YwmDfk/ [13:33] how could this be fixed ? [13:37] Aryan, remove the ppas from from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d file ... you're on dangerous ground with wrong release ppas as well [13:37] Aryan: remove the PPA? This channel focuses it's support on the software packages available through the official Ubuntu software repositories. PPAs are supported through their maintainers listed on their launchpad pages. [13:37] hehe [13:38] pragmaticenigma: aha thanks [13:38] Aryan: Also, do not mix release repos, you have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS installed, and included a repo for Ubuntu 19.10 which will cause a lot of issues. [13:39] pragmaticenigma: no i have 19.10 now, i upgraded bro [13:39] Aryan: either way... you have a mix of bionic and eoan in your sources... setting yourself up for some stability issues with your system [13:39] pragmaticenigma: should i wipe the 18.04 repositories ?? [13:40] Aryan: With that configuration, I don't know what the fall out would be... back up your system first before you remove them, but yes, I would suggest it is a good idea to remove the bionic references [13:41] pragmaticenigma: no worry, i'll wipe it now [13:45] pragmaticenigma: is there any option to tell apt to not resist to my PPA's ? [13:46] I don't understand the question Aryan === Roey is now known as fakeduckgoose [13:52] think referenceing this Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default [13:52] Would the bug related to alt+shift breaking other shortcuts be fixed in the upcoming release? [13:53] I mean alt+shift to change keyboard layout [14:03] Hamilton: questions regarding yet to be released Ubuntu releases should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 ... If there is a bug in your current installation of 16.04 LTS, 18.04 LTS, or 19.10, you should file a bug report. If the devs don't have a bug report, they won't know what's wrong [14:04] pragmaticenigma, ok I ask there (there is a bug report) [14:04] i am using grep to look for strings across a raw device and printing the offset, once i find locations of interest how can i read from that location? [14:06] malwar3hun73r: Please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, ##linux, #bash ... channel here is for Ubuntu support with the OS or applications not working. [14:13] before i google, anyone know off hand what the max ubuntu version is that could run on a Core2-QUad ? (I have a spare old computer i'd like to get up and running Folding@home..) [14:14] i think it's currently got version 12 on it [14:14] 12.04 , its a long time since i fired it up [14:16] davros: is it 32bit or 64bit? [14:16] the computer, not the install of ubuntu [14:16] let me check 1min [14:17] i see claims its "32 or 64bit" , i kind of assumed it was 64bit [14:17] yeah its 64bit capable [14:17] Q6600 [14:18] i know that SSE instruction set versions have moved on a hell of a lot since then [14:18] but it does have 64it support [14:19] davros: yikes, that's going to be an expensive power bill. I would suggest Lubuntu 18.04 LTS if you're just running F@H ... Lubuntu is a lighterweight DE that should allow more system resources work towards your project [14:19] pragmaticenigma, yeah you have a point about old hardware with power useage [14:19] i'm aware newer processors do the same work for less energy [14:19] its a 65nm cpu [14:20] still i was thinking that for folding, its mostly a GPU workload [14:20] i've got a GTX1080 that i could deploy in the COVID fight, lol [14:20] F@H has a cuda client, right ? [14:20] yes yes yes [14:21] WoC`: Please stay on topic [14:21] so u should be good [14:21] pragmaticenigma, yes i was thinking of 18.xxx - i'm using xubuntu18.04 on my main machine right now [14:21] just supporting his intent of mainly gpu workload [14:22] i think i have some hoops to jump through like installing a version on a HD on another machine, because this old machine isn't letting me boot off a USB at the moment (the very same USB that i've used to install a core i7 i860 recently) [14:23] i realise there might be bios issues there or this machine might just be partially broken. it's booting up into 12.04 though [14:23] You might be able to make use of Plop to help get the USB to boot [14:24] Does ubuntu have nmcli utility?? [14:26] Aryan: nmcli is part of the "network-manager" package [14:28] davros: is there an OS on that machine already? [14:29] Myle yes its booting an ubuntu 12.04 install it seems [14:30] So why don't you boot the new Ubuntu install or load the ISO from grub which is already there [14:30] You don't need to mess around with USB or anything. [14:30] yeah there's a GRUB menu that appears at the start, [14:30] I'm guessing ubuntu that old should have grub legaqcy instead of grub2 but either way, just get the ubutu iso you want, load the linux ramdisk and kernel image [14:30] it can read the USB stick once its booted [14:31] it invites me to open the media with the package manager, it detects that the usb stick has packages on it.. [14:31] Plot is just another boot loader which has usb drivers built into it, so it doesn't need bios to support USB, once plop is loaded, it can load USB or CD, but how do you load plot then? Catch22 [14:31] plot* [14:31] plot* [14:31] omg. [14:31] let me see my options [14:31] PLOP! [14:32] there's the "give up and order a ryzen machine to plug the spare GPU in" option, there's the "install it on a HD on another machne and transfer the HD across", or [14:33] davros: For example [14:33] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jfcY4Cgbwn/ [14:33] davros: This is my grub2 custom config which loads KDE Neon ISO [14:34] ok interesting. i mean i've seen grub menus manage dual booting and so on [14:34] You can do this with any ISO in grub2 [14:34] Download Ubuntu ISO, put in some hard drive. Get the UUID of the hard drive. Then just change the file location and UUID on my config and try that in grub2 [14:35] davros: I wouldn't recommend trying all this... if your intent is to get rid of 12.04... start fresh, use PLOP if you want to install from USB. Or burn a mini.iso if you don't want to waste DVD [14:35] Dont' blindly copy paste, try to understand. you set root, loopback the iso, load linux kernel and initrd ramdisk images [14:35] Nyle: This all seems highly unnecessary and possibly a way to lead to a highly unstable system. [14:35] I would highly recommend learning this. I think you're smart enough to dot his. [14:35] I don't doubt you, man. [14:36] Let others doubt you and not recommend something slightly more difficult or involved. [14:36] I think you got this. [14:36] Nyle, thanks , i mean i'm a coder, i've written driving game engines, but i can still fuck up installing things [14:36] davros: please refrain from cussing... this channel is meant to be kept family friendly [14:36] sorry hah [14:37] i'll just try my lo-tech idea - installing something on a machine that works and moving the HD across [14:37] Try stuff. Talk less. [14:37] A little less talking and little more action please! [14:38] Then you get some satisfaction, please! ha. have fun [14:43] Nyle: To find out what packages are requesting a reboot: cat /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs [14:44] pragmaticenigma: aha. Thanks. Too late now, as I already rebooted the VPS [14:44] I appreciate you taking the time to scroll up and look and answer. Cheers [14:44] Stay safe in the virus times! [14:45] Can anyone tell me if using zfs on Ubuntu encrypts the disk? [14:46] jtreminio: You mean by default or does it have the capability? [14:46] Ammmm [14:46] I'm sure ZFS does not automatically encrypt any volumes unless specifically made to do so [14:46] Nyle LVM has checkbox option on installer, I don't see anything similar for zfs [14:46] How can i change server of mirrors in ubuntu CLI?? [14:47] Aryan: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list [14:47] Aryan: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* [14:48] Nyle: in gui it has main server or US servers. [14:48] How can i change to us server in source.list? [14:49] Aryan: You can use the following format http://.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [14:50] OR you can use http://.releases.ubuntu.com/ for releases [14:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors [14:50] You can broser the web using elinks or lynx or links in cli [14:51] browse* [14:52] https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-select-the-fastest-apt-mirror-on-ubuntu-linux here's an interesting article [14:53] Aryan, or you could change the sources in your package manager gui app which wil auto change your sources list to the country you choose in tha package manager [14:54] just reading the ubuntu server download page, and it states: "Application container technology based on Docker and Kubernetes..." What exactly are they talking about here? Is there some easy-mode for k8s on Ubuntu? [14:55] I don't even touch things that have a goofy name. [14:55] i'm assuming its just saying docker is included? [14:56] based on Docker _and_ kubernetes? That makes it sound like it's something included/installable. Of course, anyone can install k8s on pretty much any Linux distro. [14:57] Where does it say that? [14:57] greatgatsby: Those are images specific to being installed into a Docker/Kubernetes... they are not hosts [14:57] https://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm [14:58] the second bullet there really makes it sound like there's some "Application container tech" on ubuntu server [14:58] just looking for more details [14:58] Yeah, no. [14:58] You're misunderstanding. It has the capability, but you'd need to install packages on server and configure it. [14:58] hahaha, ok, didn't think so, was curious about the wording [14:58] It's not something pre installed or preconfigured [14:58] here's a box full of wood, nails, and glue. This box includes wood-clock capabilities. [14:59] \o/ [15:00] ok - thanks, appreciate the replies [15:00] *nod* [15:00] Been using Ubuntu for a while now. Was on Debian for 18 years or something. === DrJ- is now known as DrJ === ezri is now known as dax === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [15:28] === lestac_afk is now known as lestac [15:39] hi [15:40] Mrhubris, hi [15:40] is this a place to ask questions? [15:40] Mrhubris: if its ubuntu related, sure shoot [15:41] i'm experiencing an issue on a new box i've setup. I installed ubuntu 19.10. rebooted. updated. rebooted again [15:41] now i can't login anymore [15:41] username is filled in and when i type my password it just gives me the login screen again [15:42] Mrhubris, press ctrl-alt-F2 to switch to a tty, and try to login there. What happens? [15:42] i tested with a wrong password and then i get a notification that my password is wrong (so i know i'm using a correct password) [15:42] ah gimmie a sec [15:42] Probably the desktop is crashing [15:43] could be but i don't understand why. It's a fresh install (apart from the updates) [15:44] via tty it's working so it seems [15:46] Mrhubris restart gdm : sudo systemctl restart gdm3 [15:47] allright!!!! [15:47] that worked. Thanks! [15:48] but what i found weird is that it persisted after reboots [15:48] Mrhubris but ... [15:48] shouldn't that also restart gdm? [15:48] sure [15:49] Mrhubris logout / in === ace_me1 is now known as ace_me [15:50] ioria, logout doesn't seem to work ... [15:51] Mrhubris you can't logout or you can't login again ? [15:52] i can't logout [15:52] Mrhubris what's your vidoe card ? nvidia ? [15:52]