| cpaelzer | hmm nothing | 12:50 |
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| cpaelzer | yay I misread my clock by 2h, ignore the noise :-) | 12:50 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: you are allowed to be confused only next week :) | 13:18 |
| cpaelzer | glad to know that didrocks | 13:22 |
| cpaelzer | I'll stop for now ... | 13:22 |
| cpaelzer | thanks for making me smile didrocks :-) | 13:28 |
| didrocks | :p | 13:29 |
| * ddstreet grabs coffee before mtg o/ | 13:59 | |
| cpaelzer | o/ | 14:00 |
| didrocks | hey | 14:00 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: doko: didrocks: sarnold: joeubuntu: ping | 14:00 |
| joeubuntu | hey cpaelzer ! | 14:02 |
| doko | hi | 14:02 |
| cpaelzer | ok lets get this party started then ... | 14:02 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:02 |
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| cpaelzer | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:02 |
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| cpaelzer | I had the action from Frankfurt sprint to reork the wiki (you all should have got a mail) | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | There is a suggested new page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcessNEW | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcessNEW | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | That unifies the old chaos of everal places (harder to find and unsure where to look at) | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRTeam | 14:03 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | in addition to merging those I have added the review-templates that I've shown in frankfurt | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | is anyone against using the new page? | 14:04 |
| cpaelzer | Once we agree I can do the changes to replace one of the existing pages and have the others refer to it | 14:05 |
| didrocks | thx for working on that, I have a couple of remarks on the page and unsure how we should fix them | 14:05 |
| didrocks | for instance, there is a discrepancy between how we give a MIR to the security team and the diagram below | 14:05 |
| didrocks | the text is: | 14:05 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: the content is mostly the same as before - are your remarks new issues or already bad before my sugegsted change? | 14:05 |
| didrocks | " * They might also delegate portions of the review to other teams, assign it to them, and set it to Incomplete; common cases are getting a thorough security review from the security team " | 14:05 |
| didrocks | -> the diagram shows only "new" as a valid status though | 14:06 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:06 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: I think this was pre-existing, but as we consolidate in one page now, it’s more visible :) | 14:06 |
| cpaelzer | yes didrocks | 14:06 |
| cpaelzer | in recent times we really only kept incomplete if the bug-reporter had to come back later with tasks | 14:07 |
| didrocks | (it’s minor, the rest is really really good) | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | the security Team was fine to pick the tasks in state "new" as well as long as they are assigned | 14:07 |
| didrocks | ok, I’ll update the diagram to match this | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | na | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: lets change the text | 14:07 |
| didrocks | let’s set on incomplete | 14:07 |
| didrocks | yep | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | the diagram is the simpler version | 14:07 |
| didrocks | ack | 14:07 |
| cpaelzer | one less state change | 14:07 |
| doko | hmm, the process is "hidden" after the review description ... maybe should be moved up | 14:08 |
| doko | we use incomplete for a placeholder bug, missing subscriber, missing stuff in the MIR | 14:09 |
| cpaelzer | doko: we can makd #4 to become 3.1 would that work better for you? | 14:09 |
| cpaelzer | doko: yes incomplete is "please comeback once XXX is fulfilled" | 14:09 |
| cpaelzer | which can be subscribers, or "please add a test" or "needs new version" and such | 14:09 |
| cpaelzer | doko: I'll move the process states up that is a good suggestion | 14:10 |
| doko | I would make 4 -> 2 | 14:10 |
| cpaelzer | like an overview before the detail then | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | sure that can work as well | 14:11 |
| doko | yes | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | done | 14:11 |
| cpaelzer | the state chare has incomplete the way we use it | 14:12 |
| cpaelzer | it is state #7 | 14:12 |
| cpaelzer | it is missing in the long text thou | 14:12 |
| cpaelzer | I'll add at "Filing a MIR bug" as 4.2 | 14:13 |
| cpaelzer | done | 14:15 |
| cpaelzer | anything else that anyone wants to change immediately | 14:15 |
| cpaelzer | it is - after all - a wiki so you can do that at any time | 14:15 |
| cpaelzer | but I know that this probably is the one time we really read and modify it | 14:16 |
| cpaelzer | for quite a while | 14:16 |
| cpaelzer | so is everyone ok now? | 14:16 |
| cpaelzer | FYI - the one URL that will stay (=the page this unified content will take over) is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess | 14:16 |
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| cpaelzer | and the other two will be come blank referrals (not sure if the wiki allows auto-referral but a link will do as well) | 14:17 |
| cpaelzer | I'd be bold and consider silence = yes | 14:19 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: heh, good plan :) | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | last remarks to hold me back before we go on with the agenda? | 14:19 |
| sarnold | I really like the new page | 14:19 |
| sarnold | and removing two others is excellent value :) | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | thanks sarnold | 14:19 |
| didrocks | for me, +1 :) | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | we realized when introducing ddstreet that we did ourselve not know on which page it was - so the task became obvious :-) | 14:19 |
| cpaelzer | ok lets go on then | 14:20 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:20 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:20 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:20 |
| cpaelzer | geoip2 is ready for promotion | 14:21 |
| cpaelzer | doko: could you do that right away? | 14:21 |
| doko | sure | 14:21 |
| cpaelzer | the bug is linked in the svg as usual | 14:21 |
| cpaelzer | FYI that was the long tail of a geoip -> geoip2 change triggered by the last bind9 updates | 14:21 |
| cpaelzer | other things worth to mention are libfido2 / libcbor which are worked on | 14:22 |
| cpaelzer | more interesting for this section of the agenda might be the totally new bits | 14:22 |
| cpaelzer | doko: I know you asked xnox about the seed change with python-is-... is the "what-is-python" related? | 14:22 |
| doko | perl don't hurt me | 14:24 |
| sarnold | don't hurt me, no more | 14:25 |
| doko | yeah, I'm +0 thats we need that in main ... | 14:25 |
| cpaelzer | do you know who is driving that? | 14:25 |
| doko | xnox. I don't care if it's in main or not | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | ok he will let us know if he needs anything | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | he knows the people and the process | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | if we decide to do something abotu it it might be wrong | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | he will know better | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | next weould be apport depending on terminator | 14:26 |
| cpaelzer | does anyone know more about that? | 14:27 |
| cpaelzer | that is from binary apport-gtk | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | recent uploads by bdmurray | 14:29 |
| cpaelzer | for now highlighting him is all that comes to mind, I'd expect him to file a MIR if one is need on this | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | other opinions? | 14:30 |
| didrocks | I think let’s wait for bdmurray to see his reason, but terminator in main doesn’t really make much sense to me | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | doko: are you filing MIRs once you see them in mismatches usually - or are you pinging the uploaders? | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: maybe it is an unintended pickup of the dependency, the changelog doesn't mention it | 14:30 |
| didrocks | I think so | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | ok next agenda item | 14:31 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: I think it may be unrelated to apport itself though -- at least on my lists, apport-gtk Depends: on x-terminal-emulator | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | open MIR to assign to us | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: yes on my focal it has x-terminal-emulator as well | 14:31 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: this may be a bug in whatever tool generates the svg, I don't know why terminator specifically was chosen to satisfy this dependency, nor why it recently changed | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: it has "Provides: x-terminal-emulator" | 14:32 |
| doko | apport should have a real package as the first alternative | 14:33 |
| sarnold | doko: ahhhhh | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | yep it directly lists it in depnds | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: ^^ would you fix that in apport? | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | doko: can you carry that to him in whatever the next team meeting is for you? | 14:34 |
| sarnold | on my big pile of unpacked packages, terminator is only ever mentioned in code, likely as a fallback option http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jK7CgH5JWS/ | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:34 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:35 |
| bdmurray | cpaelzer: the foundations team has a trello card to fix component-mismatches iirc | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | ok thanks bdmurray | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I'll make sure cbor goes forward | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I already did a review and have an open MP I need to review | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | to check if it fulfills my needs for 2new version" | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | it also is assigned to security | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | so no need to add further people to that | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | the other two are | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware-raspi2/+bug/1867813 | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1867813 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linux-firmware-raspi2 to restricted" [High,New] | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd-agent-loader/+bug/1868572 | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1868572 in lxd-agent-loader (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lxd-agent-loader" [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | anyone feeling like picking either of them? | 14:38 |
| sarnold | for the security part, I think I'd just like to give the binary package a quick re-review after it enters -proposed or similar, just to make sure the usual sanity checks are done | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | it seems security has already looked at lxd-agent-loader and it is a trivial package | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: ack, that comment was for libcbor right? | 14:38 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: yes | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | I'll do lxd-agent-loader somewhen today or tomorrow | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | anyone willing to take https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware-raspi2/+bug/1867813 plese ? | 14:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1867813 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linux-firmware-raspi2 to restricted" [High,New] | 14:39 |
| ddstreet | i would, but i already took lp #1868154 and lp #1868159 and don't want to take too many since i'm new to the process | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1868154 in realmd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] realmd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868154 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1868159 in adcli (Ubuntu) "[MIR] adcli" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868159 | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | agreed ddstreet | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | anyone else? | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | doko: this seems to be a foundations-case anyway - would you be able to give this one a look? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | I mean 1867813 | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | it seems everone is busy or unwilling :-/ doko since it is from sil2100 you probably are the closest member anyway - so he will bother you first :-) | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | we can wait for an answer int he last section of the meeting | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | lets go on for now | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:46 |
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| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:46 |
| doko | ugh, not sure how to review that. I'll ask lucascz | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | thanks doko | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | openstack team seems to work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octavia/+bug/1864666 but it is still incomplete and got mentioned to be for 20.10 now | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1864666 in python-octavia-lib (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-octavia-lib, ovn-octavia-provider" [Medium,Incomplete] | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | no action on that | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ec2-instance-connect/+bug/1835114 I know that rbalint is waiting on rharper | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1835114 in ec2-instance-connect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ec2-instance-connect" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | neither of the recent incomplete bugs is "for us" | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:47 |
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| cpaelzer | this was long already, anything else by any of you? | 14:48 |
| sarnold | nothing from me | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | ddstreet: I know you wanted second opinions on some reviews - is that ready for discussion? | 14:48 |
| ddstreet | for lp #1864667 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1864667 in neutron (Ubuntu) "[MIR] neutron-ovn-metadata-agent" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864667 | 14:49 |
| ddstreet | i started review, but as it's a binary pkg from a src already in main, i noted as such, and changed to 'In Progress' waiting for AA to handle it | 14:49 |
| ddstreet | is that correct procedure? | 14:49 |
| ddstreet | i haven't got to the other 2 i took for review yet | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | yeah, I usuaully do a quick sanity check but other than that new binaries on src-in-main does not need a new MIR | 14:50 |
| ddstreet | do i need to subscribe any other person/team to the bug, or will an AA see it and handle it? | 14:50 |
| ddstreet | i.e. putting the new binary pkg into main | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | TBH I don#t see that in mismatches | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | root@f:~# apt-cache policy neutron-ovn-metadata-agent | 14:51 |
| sarnold | I think that requires Fix Committed, from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcessNEW | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | neutron-ovn-metadata-agent: | 14:51 |
| ddstreet | i think the binary pkg is still stuck in focal-proposed | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | Installed: (none) | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | Candidate: 2:16.0.0~b2~git2020020712.d5b33ffc77-0ubuntu2 | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | Version table: | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | 2:16.0.0~b2~git2020020712.d5b33ffc77-0ubuntu2 500 | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-proposed/main amd64 Packages | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-proposed/main i386 Packages | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | it is already done | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | I thnik this bug is useless extra effort | 14:52 |
| ddstreet | ok well it's still good knowledge for me :) | 14:52 |
| ddstreet | so it should be fix committed? | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | well, it is more like "invalid" | 14:52 |
| ddstreet | ah since no action needed, got it | 14:52 |
| sarnold | heh I would have thought Fix Released, since it's "resolved by an AA" :) | 14:52 |
| * doko leaves the meeting, have to run for an appointment | 14:52 | |
| cpaelzer | cu doko | 14:53 |
| ddstreet | doko o/ | 14:53 |
| ddstreet | ok i'll put it into 'fix released' just to avoid confusion about whether it belongs in main or not | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | ddstreet: I updated the bug | 14:53 |
| didrocks | bye doko | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | coreycb: will come back if needed | 14:53 |
| ddstreet | ah ok thnx cpaelzer :) | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | ok we are done then ... | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | anything else? | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | 10 | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | 5 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 3 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 2 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 14:54:08 2020 UTC. | 14:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-03-24-14.02.moin.txt | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | thanks to everyone | 14:54 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | I know this was a long one | 14:54 |
| ddstreet | thnx! bye o/ | 14:54 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: I like the logarythmic countdown :) | 14:54 |
| coreycb | cpaelzer: I think neutron-ovn-metadata-agent should be ok now, fixed it yesterday. | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: sort of reverse fibonacci due to all the rabbits dying of a virus | 14:54 |
| didrocks | thx :) | 14:55 |
| sarnold | lol | 14:58 |
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