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IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> {{{hugs}}} for @Valoriez Superb job on the Kubuntu Test Week 20.04 reads great.07:00
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valoriethanks @Sick_Rimmit I lacked the energy to get it put onto our site last night19:30
valorie<--- needs more coffee19:31
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Hi Val {{Hug}} You want me to put it up ?19:32
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Looks like I can attend akademy this year!19:37
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q1/006078.html19:41
jphilipsvalorie: in case you didnt get my messages, i left you some more edit suggestions in the google doc :D19:51
valorie@Sick_Rimmit lemme give the doc one last runthough20:00
valorie@RikMills wow, since I had months ago decided I didn't want to fly to Europe this year, that's welcome news20:01
valorietook 'em long enough to decide though20:01
valorieotoh everyone is agonizing about such decisions20:02
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I'll be appearing on Big Daddy Linux Show on Saturday and I will be talking about the 20.04 Testing initiative, try to get the message out20:03
valoriecool!20:06
valoriedo we have a simple key combo to open a konsole?20:06
valorieI always use yakuake so dunno20:06
valoriebut most of our users don't20:06
valoriemy instructions are to use the actual terminal20:07
valoriewould be simpler to use konsole I suppose20:07
valorieand less scary to people who rely on the gui20:07
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> @RikMills, Are you going to show your face though?20:19
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Sadly webcam is broken (or will be)20:20
valorielol20:44
valorielove you, RikMills20:45
jphilipssorry to disturb you again valorie, but i added a few more and you had some typos :D20:58
jphilips@Sick_Rimmit: look forward to see you on BDLL and thanks for spreading the word20:59
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Sure thing, are the any key messages you want me to discuss about the Ubuntu Testing week ?21:00
jphilipsyou would likely know best, as you've likely been to ones before and i havent :D21:01
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> No problem, leave it with me.21:02
valoriethanks jphilips, I've been doing that very thing for gsoc students on their proposals21:12
valorieit's a valuable service21:13
valorie:-)21:13
jphilips:D21:20
valoriei rarely get the luxury of having someone follow behind me, cleaning up21:25
valorie:-)21:25
valorieok, I think I've finalized it for you, @Sick_Rimmit21:44
valorienow to deal with my gsoc students21:44
valoriewe've been given a week breathing room, thank goodness21:45
jphilipsthe benefit of Ctrl + Alt + T over Ctrl + Alt + Fn is that they dont have to login to their account another time and dont have to use another shortcut to get back to the GUI. We want to limit users having to touch the terminal as much as possible :D21:54
valoriea crash can dump you there, so people should know what to do then22:14
* valorie has learned these things the hard way22:15
keithzg[m]Yeah it's always risky to go "oh, well we've set things up so this should never be needed", if you don't have a reliable fallback for when things don't Just Work™ then you don't have a fallback when people need it most!22:21
jphilipsdefinitely true, but not sure the announcement is the time to be teaching them more than what they need to know22:28
jphilipsvalorie's instructions don't mention having to login22:28
jphilipsbefore they can 'ubuntu-bug packagename'22:28
valorieusers are prompted to login if they don't have one22:45
valorieI mentioned it then removed it22:45
valorieand I thought about leaving out the terminal based on your feedback but IMO it is especially important to get bug reports from actual crashes22:46
valorieif possible22:46
jphilipsactual crashes bring up the crash dialog, so there is no going into the terminal for that22:53
keithzg[m]You hope the crashes do! Depends what crashed . . .22:55
* keithzg[m] still has battle scars from trying to run NVIDIA cards for many years ;)22:55
jphilipsoh okay. i've seen crashes loading up ubuntu and xubuntu isos and assumed it was like for all the flavors22:57
keithzg[m]It is indeed the same for all flavours. You've just been lucky enough not to have a crash that actually kills (or otherwise makes inoperable) X11 or Wayland :)22:58
jphilipsoh those kinds of crashes. :D23:02
jphilipswell lets hope users dont go through that as they definitely arent going to know what to do23:03
keithzg[m]Well the first step is, they hit something like ctrl+alt+F2 . . . ;)23:04
valoriehopefully people practice this ahead of time, but....23:09
valoriemy son made me practive23:09
valoriepractice23:09
valorie:-)23:09
valoriejust like my dad made me change a tire before he'd let me practice driving23:10
valorieit's true that I've not had a crash like that for awhile23:11
valoriebut I do have nvidia, and would rather not deal with a dark screen more than necessary23:12
valorieoff to do student proposals23:12

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