[00:28] <neteffect> hello
[00:29] <awalis> hi
[00:29] <neteffect> i was looking for an email program besides Thunderbird.
[00:30] <sarnold> I like mutt okay
[00:30] <neteffect> ok
[00:30] <awalis> claws-mail
[00:31] <neteffect> ok
[00:31] <Bashing-om> neteffect: There are many - I use sylpheed.
[00:31] <oerheks> mutt i s nice ..  https://snapcraft.io/search?q=mail
[00:31] <guzzlefry> Any pointers on getting a 4K monitor to work with Xubuntu 16.04?
[00:31] <oerheks> but there are more :-)
[00:32] <neteffect> yes i noticed :D ok cool im checking these out
[01:25] <monojamoon|> hello everyone.
[01:25] <monojamoon|> my kern.log file is jammed in by these error logs
[01:25] <monojamoon|> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rW23ZMY677/
[01:25] <monojamoon|> it pops up every minute
[01:27] <monojamoon|> searches related to acer_wmi all point at the same direction, blacklist acer_wmi. And in almost all of them there was some problem related to wifi. however, my wifi seems to be working correctly. I don't understand if i should just blindly block it
[01:30] <UserGuy> Anybody here have experience setting up serial port terminal access? I can't seem to find a "how to" guide which works with 16.04
[01:37] <subcool> im having stupid issues with boot. Ive used boot-repair and grub customizer - Im having issues with boot locations. I had a multi boot system - but -- i tried to reinstall one of them. - Anyways. I appear to have two grubs.... - Boot repair refuses to work even with using it on a live usb. - When used in advanced. It see''s the boot i've rcently created, but not the one thats preventing me from booting.
[01:38] <rfm> UserGuy, can you elaborate on "serial port terminal access"?  Are you trying to log into the Ubuntu system from a terminal plugged into a serial port on the Ubuntu system?
[01:39] <rfm> UserGuy, or are you trying to connect out from something running on the Ubuntu system to a device connected to a serial port?
[01:39] <subcool> im curretnly on a live usb..
[01:40] <UserGuy> I am trying to log on to a machine running Lubuntu 16.04 using the serial port.
[01:41] <UserGuy> I have been successful in using minicom to verify that the hardware is working. I can type into the terminal and see it on minicom. But getting a login access is proving difficult and confusing for me.
[01:42] <rfm> UserGuy, probably there is not a getty spawned for the port.  I found something that talks about setting up gettys on systemd...
[01:42] <rfm> UserGuy: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html -- scroll past the console stuff to "serial terminals"
[01:43] <rfm> UserGuy, note I've never tried this (I don't think I have any systems with serial ports anymore...)
[01:45] <UserGuy> rfm, oh yes. lots of info there apparently. thank you.
[01:46] <JoeLlama> is it possible to run mIRC in linux using some kind of emulator?
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> JoeLlama: It is better to use a native application. HexChat is a popular choice
[01:47] <JoeLlama> can I open 50 channels in windows and also be on 7 networks at the same time using hexchat?
[01:48] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[01:48] <JoeLlama> neat
[01:48] <lordcirth_> Yes, much easier than a browser
[01:48] <JoeLlama> easier than mIRC?
[01:48] <pragmaticenigma> JoeLlama: Bet you could get it setup and running about 3 minutes... a few more to get all the networks configured with your authentication
[01:49] <JoeLlama> I have a lot of scripting files :(
[01:50] <JoeLlama> so like. emulator?
[01:50] <deww> JoeLlama: many years ago. mirc worked with wine
[01:50] <JoeLlama> I've had an mIRC license since forever
[01:50] <pragmaticenigma> many of them may import JoeLlama
[01:50] <JoeLlama> like the 90's
[01:50] <JoeLlama> oh ok wine yup
[01:50] <JoeLlama> is wine hard to set up?
[01:51] <deww> JoeLlama: try and find out
[01:51] <JoeLlama> I think eventually pragmaticenigma that would be the plan
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> not terribly hard to setup wine...
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> !wine
[01:51] <JoeLlama> o k deww
[01:51] <JoeLlama> ok thans pragmaticenigma too :)
[01:51] <JoeLlama> afk for a bit
[01:52] <pragmaticenigma> JoeLlama: "sudo apt install wine64"
[01:52] <JoeLlama> oh ok easy :)
[01:52] <JoeLlama> even if it's slow, irc clients generally have little overhead
[01:56] <greatgatsby> seems the mirc developer put a lot of effort into keeping it compatible with wine
[01:56]  * greatgatsby was researching irc clients earlier today
[01:57] <monojamoon|> upon entering lsmod | grep acer_wmi into the terminal i get this output:
[01:57] <monojamoon|> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pktFFDq7VT/
[01:57] <monojamoon|> what is sparse_keymap?
[01:58] <monojamoon|> does it control my FN+xx functionality?
[02:00] <eelstrebor> it's kinda weird that resolvconf doesn't keep up. i have to manually execute resolvconf -u from the cli at least once a day in order for dns to keep working.
[02:04] <doug16k> JoeLlama, wine's name is a funny recursive acronym: Wine Is Not an Emulator (it's much better and drastically faster than an emulator)
[02:10] <beatleboy07> I've never done it before...so how much would I expect to change if I installed 20.04 now instead of waiting a month?
[02:29] <neteffect> i ended up with claws mail, looks good.  I did try sylpheed and maybe i wasn't patient enough.
[02:29] <Bashing-om> \o/ neteffect
[02:30] <neteffect> o/
[02:33] <Aktive> how can I run geforce now on linux
[02:33] <Aktive> I know this cant be done directly
[02:35] <Bashing-om> Aktive: Base Nvidia is well supported - what is your issue ?
[02:37] <Aktive> if anyone knows how i can run geforce now
[02:38] <Aktive> what is the easiest way
[02:52] <Aktive> is there a way that I can run windows 10 in linux with hardware acceleration 3D
[02:53] <NightStrike> Aktive: use Wine?
[02:53] <Aktive> for what ?
[02:53] <NightStrike> for running windows under linux with hw 3d
[02:53] <NightStrike> isn't that what oyu asked? :P
[02:54] <Aktive> how can you run windows in wine ?
[02:54] <NightStrike> join #winehq
[02:54] <Aktive> no thats not what I mean
[02:54] <Aktive> lol
[02:54] <Aktive> I need to run windows on inux with hardware acceleration
[02:54] <Aktive> linux
[02:54] <NightStrike> maybe you should ask your question better
[02:55] <NightStrike> because I'm pretty sure I gave you the right answer
[02:55] <Aktive> oke
[02:55] <NightStrike> unless you mean a windows vm under vbox / vmware / etc
[02:55] <Aktive> yes
[02:55] <NightStrike> but generally, wine is how you run windows apps on linux, and the support for 3d is pretty decent
[02:55] <Aktive> geforce now doesnt work on wine
[02:56] <NightStrike> if you want to run a vm... well, 1) ask that next time, and 2) just install the vm
[02:56] <NightStrike> well not everything is 100%, but they certainly do a lot
[02:56] <NightStrike> in any case, geforce now doesn't use 3d acceleartion
[02:56] <NightStrike> it downloads video of you playing on the cloud servers
[02:56] <NightStrike> streams*
[02:56] <Aktive> yes it does
[02:56] <Aktive> or
[02:56] <Aktive> hardware encoding
[02:57] <Aktive> or whatever
[02:57] <NightStrike> that's completely different
[02:57] <Aktive> *decoding
[02:57] <Aktive> hmmm
[02:57] <Aktive> oke
[02:58] <Aktive> but it still needs gpu
[02:58] <NightStrike> "gpu"
[02:58] <NightStrike> I run it on a barebones macbook
[02:58] <NightStrike> you ca use intel hd 530 grpahics if you really want
[02:58] <Aktive> yes, this is what it says
[02:59] <NightStrike> point is, it doens't need anything fancy
[02:59] <NightStrike> in any case, if you are trying to get geforce now running under wine, ask in #winehq
[02:59] <Aktive> This error code means the Geforce NOW app is unable to find a graphics processing unit c.Blo af docadung tho vudoa farmT ESOD BP ,,,
[03:00] <Aktive> no its not working, already lookd at wine db
[03:01] <Aktive> lol
[03:01] <Aktive> capable of decoding the video format ....
[03:03] <Aktive> I run this in boxes
[03:03] <Aktive> gnome boxes
[04:19] <monojamoon||> trying to restore my backup created on Google Drive via the default Backup tool present in Ubuntu 18.04. It fails everytime with this error "Giving up after 5 attempts. Error: gdata-service-error-quark: Authentication required: Unauthorized (4)"
[04:20] <monojamoon||> I am pretty sure I am authenticated as it is able to download about 30% of the data and then it fails with this error?
[04:22] <monojamoon||> Is it a particular file that needs special authorization? I have the less secure apps enabled in my Google account!
[05:05] <UserGuy> I have returned to say that you people are awesome!
[05:07] <UserGuy> I read all the links provided to me about setting up Serial Port login to a Ubuntu machine. I managed to get it working on all 4 serial port terminals.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> UserGuy: you still remember who helped you?
[05:13] <UserGuy> first time here so not familiar with any nicks. but it was a very short one. 3 characters i believe. started with r i think.
[05:16] <UserGuy> seems rfm is the only one here who meets those criteria right now. looks familiar. probably was.
[05:19] <UserGuy> i became so excited upon seeing the light at the end of the tunnel that i sorta just hopped off IRC and went reading and typing and testing
[05:43] <beatleboy07> I've never done it before...so how much would I expect to change if I installed 20.04 now instead of waiting a month?\
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !final | beatleboy07
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> beatleboy07: join #ubuntu+1 for more info
[05:45] <beatleboy07> What is #ubuntu+1?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> beatleboy07: the 20.04 support channel
[05:45] <beatleboy07> Oh cool.
[05:45] <beatleboy07> Thanks!
[05:45] <beatleboy07> I'm using Manjaro. But decided I want to work with a more mainstream distro.
[05:46] <Delemas> What is broken with dpkg when it wants to unpack a package over one that isn't installed?
[05:48] <Delemas> I had a system run out of space and it got quite unhappy... fsck is clean but it keeps device locking attempting to install linux-headers-4.15.0-91. Antique I know but I need to upgrade through it...
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Delemas: Please !pastebin the output of the commands you're running.
[05:55] <Delemas> I'm simply trying to do an apt-get install -f. It's going through and attempting to install the kernel set linux-*-4.15.0-91*.
[05:56] <Delemas> Every time it starts unpacking linux-headers-4.15.0-91-generic it devices locks 2% in and never returns.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Delemas: use a pastebin of your whole apt output what you are trying, as Jordan_U adviced
[05:58] <Delemas> That's rather challenging in a virtualbox console on another system...
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info pastebinit | Delemas
[05:59] <Delemas> I cannot install anything on the system...
[06:00] <Bashing-om> Delemas: ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ; df -h ' give any hints ?
[06:01] <Delemas> linux-generic-hwe-16.04 was updated which is what is triggering the updated kernels to install.
[06:01] <Delemas> sec I'll try that...
[06:02] <Bashing-om> Delemas: No fix - just info to maybe point to where the root of the issue lies .
[06:03] <Delemas> iU linux-headers-4.15.0-91 and iHR linux-headers-4.15.0.91-generic
[06:04] <Delemas> Currently 1 CPU is pegged due to a device locked dpkg trying to install linux-headers-4.15.0-91-generic
[06:04] <Bashing-om> Delemas: Gonna have to fix the kernels - then remove old ones, what kerenl is booted presently - as we can not mess with the currently booted kernel. uname -r .
[06:05] <Delemas> Clearly something is going south during unpackaging. I've got one working kernel left.
[06:05] <Delemas> I meant unpacking...
[06:06] <Delemas> The current kernel is 4.15.0-72
[06:06] <Delemas> generic if it matters.
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Delemas: How well can you read command syntax ? As is with no info, I can give you a handy dandy that you must adapt to your install situation.
[06:10] <Delemas> System managed to fill it's root with old kernels which was impressive...
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Delemas: Is it possible that you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[06:11] <Delemas> I'm pretty good normally. I haven't seen this failure mode before.
[06:11] <Bashing-om> Delemas: Once you have the system stable one can set to "autoremove" that also takes care of old kernels.
[06:11] <Delemas> No 16GB / with minimal install.
[06:13] <Delemas> I did manage to autoremove the old kernels without issue. Things went south after removing all the VM snapshots in Virtualbox.
[06:14] <Delemas> There were 6 snapshots going back 2 years...
[06:17] <HiDeHo> Hi all anyone know if ubuntu studio server is having some issues? its been 2-3hrs and still trying to download.
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Delemas: Do you have curl installed?
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Delemas: Something like: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image{,-modules,}-4.15.0-{46,49,52}-generic linux-headers-4.15.0-{46,49,52}{,-generic} '. excude the current kernel! Be aware I have no experience with a VM.
[06:18] <Delemas> Jordan_U, no. I do have wget though... libcurl3 is there though.
[06:19] <Delemas> Bashing-om, that's what I did to uninstall all the old kernels but the current one.
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Delemas: Can you ssh into the guest from the host, so that you can more easily use pastebin?
[06:24] <Bashing-om> Delemas: The install status iu == installed but only Unpacked ; iHR == installed Half installed Reinstall required .
[06:26] <Delemas> Bashing-om, I know... I can clean them up with a dpkg --purge --force-all and those two packages but even when I totally clear the apt cache the same problem happens again.
[06:29] <Delemas> The drive the VM is using for storage is otherwise good. Smart health check is ok.
[06:29] <Bashing-om> Delemas: Jordan_U has the fresher mind - as he is willing, might be best to follow his lead. in the end we want that all files in /usr/src/, /lib/modules/, and /boot to match.
[06:30] <Delemas> It's 2:30am and tomorrow is a work day. I'm going to have to give up for tonight... Thanks for trying guys. I'll see if I can sort out something paste bin compatible tomorrow.
[06:31] <Bashing-om> Delemas: Good deal - we be here in the event there is still an issue :D
[06:32] <Delemas> oh what the heck. It suddenly undevice locked and finished the install after many hours....
[06:33] <snake-venom> i am trying to setup Virtual host on my ubuntu 18.4 desktop..  but after all steps its throwing "Unable to connect"
[07:16] <Malsasa> Hello, #ubuntu community! Glad to come back here again after so many years.
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> welcome back Malsasa
[07:17] <Malsasa> lotuspsychje wow, thanks for welcoming me! I wish you all safe and sound in this worldwide emergency situation.
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> thank you Malsasa feel free to also join #ubuntu-discuss
[07:18] <Malsasa> lotuspsychje wow, a new channel to me. Thanks a lot.
[07:18] <Malsasa> lotuspsychje I am still using 16.04 today.
[07:18] <Malsasa> What about you?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Malsasa: lets discuss that in the channel i linked you
[07:19] <dhsathiya> I have a laptop which's graphics card got some issue and is not fixable. So the screen and external monitor doesn't work. I want to install ubuntu or ubuntu server on it. How can I do it?
[07:20] <Malsasa> lotuspsychje oh, thanks, sorry for my ignorance. It feels like too long time since I left IRC for Telegram.
[07:21] <blue1> dhsathiya: you might be able to ssh into the box.  It's esentially a headless system
[07:22] <blue1> i have never tried to ssh with off of an install disk - I suppose you can though
[07:23] <dhsathiya> It had Windows installed in it. I have to do install Ubuntu without any inputs. Like attach USB and Installation starts and at the end add my SSH key.
[07:29] <Drecondius> Is it possible to remove ownership from a folder and all of it's sub folders so anyone can read/write them?
[07:31] <Malsasa> Drecondius, hello, I think it is possible though changing the permission instead of ownership.
[07:31] <Drecondius> i know chown -R but i don't want any owners so it can be freely written from multiple sources
[07:34] <Malsasa> Drecondius, speaking honestly, doing chmod -R 777 to a folder will make it freely writable from multiple sources.
[07:34] <Malsasa> Drecondius, however, in server, that practice is bad for security as far as I know.
[07:35] <Drecondius> it's only going to be done on an external hdd, which, shouldn't have any permissions defined as it's ntfs
[07:36] <Drecondius> i'm going to attach it to my modem to use as a household nas of sorts
[07:36] <Drecondius> but right now, my pi has mucked up permissions on the disk making it  impossible to modify anything on the drive
[07:38] <EdFletcherT137_> Drecondius: https://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-do-i-use-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[07:38] <Drecondius> Ok, I forgot i reflashed my pi and the ssh key changed and now i can't connect to it, anyway i can fix that from the client machine?
[07:39] <EdFletcherT137_> Dragnslcr: password auth is disabled? then no
[07:39] <Drecondius> password auth still works
[07:40] <Drecondius> but this machine won't connect because i usually wait till it's connected to enter the password
[07:42] <Drecondius> scrap that last question, it told me in the terminal, I just wasn't paying attention
[07:48] <Drecondius> i don't have to have screen on the client machine to use it on a remote one correct?
[07:57] <Mrhubris> so, this is probably a rather stupid question but it didn't catch my eye before. How come apt isn't showing everything that is upgradable anymore? I mean, Software updates says there's an update for ubuntu base but apt update says everything is up to date ..
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | Mrhubris
[07:59] <Mrhubris> that's just my point
[07:59] <Mrhubris> apt update says that everything is up to date
[07:59] <Mrhubris> yet i'm looking at a screen for software updater that clearly has an update for ubuntu base (security indeed)
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> Mrhubris: wich ubuntu version and kernel are you on please?
[08:00] <Mrhubris> 19.10
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic eoan
[08:00] <Mrhubris> Linux desktop 5.3.0-42-generic
[08:00] <Mrhubris> seems about right
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> seems good Mrhubris
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> Mrhubris: does software centre mention package versions?
[08:01] <Mrhubris> sorry can't remember i installed it it's gone :-)
[08:01] <Drecondius> Ok, so i was installing tmux remotely, forgot that I was connected, thought i was installing on this machine, and triggered a remote reboot
[08:02] <Drecondius> can i fix it somehow
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Mrhubris: after an apt update, it should show you how many package can be updated
[08:03] <Mrhubris> well that's what i expected but that wasn't the case today
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> Mrhubris: its possible repos were syncing perhaps, did apt give you another warning?
[08:03] <ducasse> Drecondius: fix what?
[08:04] <Mrhubris> nope
[08:05] <ducasse> Mrhubris: you can use 'apt list --upgradable' to list available upgrades
[08:05] <Drecondius> well, I thought i was installing tmux locally but was installing it on a remote machine, triggered a reboot on the remote machine during install, but it appears to work because there were no errors when starting tmux
[08:05] <Mrhubris> ducasse: i did. Nothing
[08:05] <Mrhubris> it's not a big problem but it was just weird. I'll keep an eye out for this in the future
[08:07] <ducasse> Mrhubris: sometimes there can be discrepancies between apt and the gui tools. if and when this happens i tend to trust apt.
[08:09] <Bluerate> hello all, I followed this link https://askubuntu.com/questions/975827/whats-a-good-free-vpn-for-ubuntu to install openvpn but doesn't work "connection failed" .. how to resolve that?
[08:10] <dhsathiya> Bluerate, check your ovpn file for the IP address of the server.
[08:13] <dhsathiya> Bluerate, for ease you can use: https://github.com/angristan/openvpn-install . I am using it since a while.
[08:58] <zetheroo1> can someone please help me out ... I am connected via OpenVPN to work but the internal DNS keeps dropping in and out.
[08:59] <zetheroo1> this is Ubuntu 18.04
[09:11] <beiz> hello. i just got my hands on a lenovo ideapad S540, and am dealing with some issues.
[09:11] <beiz> when the computer goes to sleep, the screen freezes.
[09:11] <beiz> when the computer goes into suspend, it won't wake up again and requires a reboot.
[09:12] <beiz> and there is no sound.
[09:12] <beiz> sound just says "dummy output"
[09:13] <beiz> i also don't have supercharger feature but that seems to be a general incapability of linux.
[09:14] <beiz> and battery life is far worse (from 18 hours down to 4 hours), albeit i activated auto-switching of graphics and at least now it says 9 hours, but it still rains 1% per minute from just idle.
[09:14] <Bluerate> dhsathiya: I run the script and generated .ovpn file at home ... how to run that .. I break it up into ca.cert, certifiacte.crt and key.key and import on openvpn configuration but doesn't work
[09:15] <Bluerate> did i miss something?
[09:16] <dhsathiya> Bluerate: `apt install openvpn` on your local system where you want to use the VPN
[09:18] <Bluerate> dhsathiya: it's already installed
[09:18] <dhsathiya> Bluerate: Then settings > network. Click on small + icon in the right of the VPN. Select Import from file. Select the .ovpn file
[09:18] <dhsathiya> Bluerate: No need to break the ovpn file.
[09:21] <Aryan> hi
[09:21] <Aryan> i have a shadow socks config, i don't know how to connect with ss-local (shadowsocks-libev) package
[09:21] <Aryan> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZXtQVDq4By/
[09:23] <Aryan> :'(
[09:31] <Bluerate> dhsathiya: when openvpn is connected, internet is not working.. why
[09:33] <dhsathiya> That's strange. check your ports are open or not.
[09:34] <akem> Bluerate, Try to ping a domain, then an IP, check your DNS server.
[09:38] <sixwheeledbeast> I'd be thinking DNS
[09:38] <Bluerate> which ports .. internet is working when openvpn is disconneted
[09:41] <Bluerate> I know that is insecure.. but my open ports https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tNpY4svFDr/
[09:45] <dhsathiya> something is wrong on the remote machine
[09:45] <sixwheeledbeast> Does openvpn have an option to set a DNS in the options?
[09:45] <Bluerate> what do you mean
[09:46] <Bluerate> which machine
[09:47] <dhsathiya> when you installed openvpn from the link I provided, does it asked for an IP address?
[09:50] <Bluerate> yes ... check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z3ZwtbGmrV/
[09:52] <dhsathiya> what is the IP address of the machine in which you ran it? In simple terms you have to use the IP address with which you SSH in.
[09:53] <dhsathiya> i.e. Public IP address
[10:00] <Bluerate> which interface tun0 or wlp2s0
[10:00] <Bluerate> I used wlp2s0 inet ip address that was not working as you know
[10:02] <dhsathiya> I am not sure about the interface.
[10:02] <dhsathiya> try tun0 this time. :P
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> beiz: did you update your bios to latest?
[10:04] <beiz> lotuspsychje, not sure if there are any
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> beiz: check your dmesg, bios date should show there
[10:05] <beiz> can bios be updated from ubuntu?
[10:05] <tarelerulz> Can you run a Linux installer iso from inside ?  so you could use the installer with its graphics.  I know you can use cronroot and install manually , hard done gentoo and arch.
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | beiz
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> beiz: some brands and newer computers might offer firmware updates via software centre aswell
[10:08] <beiz> well this computer came out like a month ago
[10:08] <beiz> so maybe
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> beiz: if you pastebin your dmesg, volunteers can also take a look for you if you want
[10:10] <beiz> i found bios listing
[10:10] <beiz> BIOS-e820, is that it?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> beiz: found where?
[10:11] <beiz> in the dmesg
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> beiz: ah, it should give a date next to it aswell
[10:13] <beiz> https://pastebin.com/6CCmWQvd
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> beiz: DMI: LENOVO 81XA/LNVNB161216, BIOS CLCN25WW 10/10/2019
[10:14] <Bluerate> dhsathiya: still not working..
[10:14] <tarelerulz> why update the bios?
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> beiz: your no sound issue, might be to a known kernel 5.3 -42 bug, try booting -40 to see if sound works again
[10:15] <dhsathiya> bluerate, used public IP?
[10:15] <Bluerate> sixwheeledbeast: DNS is set Automatic on IP4
[10:16] <Bluerate> I connected over wireless :: 192.168.43.42 this one is used
[10:16] <sixwheeledbeast> ah ok, so maybe you would only need that if you want you DNS queries via the VPN.
[10:17] <Bluerate> need to make openvpn working at the moment
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> beiz: you also have secureboot enabled, some unwanted (hardware) behaviour could happen
[10:20] <dhsathiya> Now I am not sure why this is happening.
[10:21] <zetheroo1> can someone please help me out ... I am connected via OpenVPN to work but the internal DNS keeps dropping out after 10min or so.
[10:23] <zetheroo1> here is the output of 'systemd-resolve --status'   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MW2VJf4hwy/
[10:24] <zetheroo1> here is the output of 'route' https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wSFCJxszpV/
[10:24] <beiz> lotuspsychje, sound works fine in zorin and arch. so it is likely the kernel bug.
[10:25] <beiz> lotuspsychje, oh, okay. i will disable secure boot.
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> beiz: it is known yeah, bug #1867803
[10:25] <beiz> why hasn't there been a fix to the kernel bug? :/
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> beiz: work in progress, -proposed kernel has the fix
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> beiz: so a bit more waiting
[10:27] <beiz> it will be available in 20.04 i presume?
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> beiz: 20.04 should not suffer this bug, another kernel version
[10:27] <beiz> great
[10:27] <beiz> so the only real issue then is suspend i guess :)
[10:27] <beiz> you think updating bios would help?
[10:28] <beiz> when i was googling i found like 30 different answers, tried a few but none worked.
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> beiz: doublecheck lenovo's site for that bios, think you are pretty up to date
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust ; )
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> beiz: there are a lot of lenovo acpi issues out there, biosupdate and !acpi play might be able to help yes
[10:29] <beiz> lotuspsychje,  what is acpi?
[10:29] <beiz> !acpi
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje: :)
[10:34] <zetheroo1> and here is resolv.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sGQBZH95pS/
[10:36] <zetheroo1> why doesn't resolv.conf show any of the tun DNS server IP addresses?
[11:08] <hextreme> Hi.     Can display server (x11 or wayland) directly access hardware by bypassing kernel?
[11:14] <ducasse> hextreme: hardware access goes through the kernel, what is your issue?
[11:18] <hextreme> Thanks ducasse.         I was refering this link (  https://blogs.igalia.com/itoral/2014/07/29/a-brief-introduction-to-the-linux-graphics-stack/ )to understand linux distro graphics stack. In figure, he made arrow bypassing kernel which made me wonder.
[11:19] <ducasse> hextreme: for exact details, you should ask in ##linux, but in general the job of the kernel is to handle hardware access
[11:20] <hextreme> ducasse     thanks buddy
[11:22] <ducasse> np
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:34] <thomasfedb> Of the available Cloud Images for 18.04 (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/current/) which image should I be using with OpenStack? Are there QCOW2 images available?
[11:58] <greatgatsby> the .img files are qcow2
[11:59] <greatgatsby> thomasfedb, ^^^^
[12:00] <thomasfedb> greatgatsby: okay, thankyou! Is this documented anywhere? I couldn't find anything
[12:01] <greatgatsby> not sure, I just happened to have used one this week, and it's qcow2 and worked flawlessly with qemu
[12:01] <greatgatsby> probably can guess looking at the filesize that it's not raw, and raw wouldn't make sense at that size since there would be no addition space, if that makes sense
[12:05] <TomyWork> can anyone recommend a good sip client that's available from the ubuntu 18.04 repos?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> TomyWork, linphone is in the repos
[12:25] <DuckyDev> Hi guys, I've been handed a Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS image (vbox) I've tried to upgrade the system with dist-upgrade, hoever it always fails and when it restarts I just get a blinking cursor after the grub menu.
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> DuckyDev: try to enter grub recoverymode and fix things from there
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> TomyWork: there's also Ekiga .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
[12:33] <CrazySam> Is "rsh" part of Ubuntu?
[12:33] <TomyWork> would surprise me if not
[12:33] <TomyWork> BluesKaj, MonkeyDust thanks for the suggestions, i'm testing linphone right now
[12:40] <pragmaticenigma> CrazySam: Would help if you expanded the acronym... there is "Restricted Shell" and "Remote Shell" which both is "rsh" acronym
[12:41] <geirha> they mean remote shell, the predecessor to ssh
[12:43] <pragmaticenigma> geirha: I'm so glad that you are telepathic and can answer for other people. Let's wait for the Original person to respond before making assumptions
[12:43] <CrazySam> Remote sh.
[12:44] <geirha> Ah, this is #ubuntu, it was discussed in ##linux earlier
[12:44] <pragmaticenigma> !info rsh-server
[12:44] <CrazySam> Yes geirha
[12:44] <pragmaticenigma> !info rsh-client
[12:44] <ses1984> i'm trying to use nvidia x server settings to configure x server display, and even though i "save to x configuration file" the settings dont seem to stick, i dont see any errors in xorg log, i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong
[12:45] <CrazySam> pragmaticenigma: it's not installed on Ubuntu by default?
[12:45] <CrazySam> "rsh" appears to be an alias for "ssh" on Ubuntu?
[12:46] <pragmaticenigma> CrazySam: Being that it is in universe, no it is not installed by default
[12:47] <pragmaticenigma> CrazySam: rsh was superseeded by ssh
[12:47] <pragmaticenigma> https://www.ssh.com/ssh/rsh
[12:48] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: You have to save the file to your local user directory, and then use sudo to copy it to the /etc/X11 folder
[12:51] <ses1984> pragmaticenigma: pretty sure that's not the case, it asks for sudo when copying to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and i also did copy to my desktop and diff the files they are the same
[12:52] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: Then it is a problem with the nvidia application, which means you will need to contact nvidia through their support channels for assistance
[12:55] <Bromite> guys what's the best way of deploying a react app to ubuntu?
[12:59] <ses1984> pragmaticenigma: if i generated the xorg conf it would be a problem with me, not the nvidia app. nvidia app was just a tool to generate the conf. interpreting xorg logs to find whats wrong has nothing to do with nvidia app
[13:00] <ioria> ses1984, are the changes actually written to xorg.conf ?
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> Bromite: For recommendations, polls, and opinions, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. Your question is not a support related
[13:01] <ses1984> ioria: looks like they are, when i write to a new file location and inspect the file it looks like it is what i want, and when i diff that against /etc/X11/xorg.conf they're the same
[13:01] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: What exactly are you setting through the nvidia gui that isn't possible with the Display settings in Ubuntu's settings area?
[13:03] <ses1984> just checked ubuntu display settings and i guess nothing. i'll try to use it and see how it works
[13:04] <ioria> ses1984, if it fails,  i 'd suggest to backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it directly (or overwite with the  nvidia-settings previw output)
[13:05] <ses1984> for some reason i thought i couldn't adjust refresh rate in the ubuntu display settings. the option shows up for one monitor, not the other, which is fine with me i only want a non-default refresh rate on one monitor
[13:05] <ses1984> it's working great, thanks
[13:11] <subcool> help please.. maybe i just need the right app. I have a multi boot system. I reinstalled one of the two systems, but install grub on a different partition. I have grub-customizer, and boot-repair. Grub cusomtizer only seeing the newest install, (the one i cant boot to). ANd Boot-repair seeing the other installation, but - keep saying my LIVE USB isnt a live usb - and disables its features. Help
[13:12] <EriC^^> subcool: you can't boot right now/
[13:12] <EriC^^> ?
[13:13] <Bashing-om> subcool: "multi boot system" all linux distros ?
[13:13] <oerheks> grub on different partition../
[13:13] <oerheks> really?
[13:13] <oerheks> i think you want to say different drive ..
[13:15] <TomyWork> BluesKaj, MonkeyDust hmm, linphone can't register (no idea what's wrong) and ekiga can't pick up calls unless I set it to automatically answer all calls
[13:15] <TomyWork> whether i click accept or reject, it always rejects the call
[13:19] <TomyWork> on windows i use yate and that works fine
[13:19] <TomyWork> i'll try twinkle
[13:20] <subcool> EriC^^: no - cant boot.
[13:20] <subcool> Bashing-om: debian and ubuntu
[13:21] <subcool> oerheks: Yeah... debian did it. --- i think?
[13:21] <oerheks> 2 grubs means chainloading...
[13:21] <subcool> From what i can see. Debian installed grub to /boot/ attached to - LVM - blahblahblah/root/
[13:22] <subcool> oerheks: yes, if i foul up the first grub during boot, itll load the second one. which - doesnt work anymore. lol
[13:22] <TomyWork> yay, twinkle works
[13:22] <Bashing-om> subcool: Boot up a liveUSB and show the channel in a pastebin the output pf ' sudo parted -l ' so we know what we are working with,
[13:22] <subcool> when i installed ubuntu, i tried to setit up on the same as debian- but it install grub to ... blahblahblah/kubuntu -
[13:23] <subcool> kk
[13:23] <Tuor> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 18.04 and I'm wondering why unattended-upgrade is not run daily. This is my /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KyZ9cYhDst/ and when I run unattended-upgrade --dry-run a lot of packages are listed for installation. What is supposed to run unattended-upgrades? How more simple how can I get automatic updates for my Ubuntu 18.04 (server)?
[13:24] <subcool> im going to sign off here. brb
[13:24] <Bashing-om> subcool: If LVM this might be a job for super-Eric^^ :P
[13:25] <subcool> lol
[13:25] <subcool> thanks
[13:28] <Bomber4Chats> Having trouble getting my headphone's in-built mic to be detected by linux mate on my asus laptop. Details:   Linux version 4.15.0-92-generic.   driver=snd_hda_intel    No errors in journalctl -f  when connecting disconnecting device
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> Bomber4Chats: what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[13:31] <Bomber4Chats> -Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS \n \l
[13:33] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZwsWpmVxXQ/
[13:33] <subcool> EriC^^:
[13:35] <Bashing-om> subcool: Yup ! ^^ EriC^^ :P
[13:36] <EriC^^> :D
[13:37] <subcool> Thanks btw
[13:37] <subcool> i know its a stupid issue- my only resolve is to reinstall.... lol.
[13:37] <subcool> which i already did - lol.. it lead me to understand how i have a grub issue.
[13:39] <EriC^^> subcool: it looks like there's one install right now not 2
[13:39] <EriC^^> ?
[13:39] <subcool> i've been hacking away at it
[13:39] <subcool> but its there
[13:39] <EriC^^> on which partition?
[13:40] <EriC^^> i see a lvm kubuntu install
[13:40] <subcool> debian install something to /boot/ - and its my mayjor malfunciton. - i think lvm blahblahblah/root
[13:40] <subcool> i deleted the /root install trying to get rid of it
[13:40] <subcool> lol
[13:40] <subcool> deleted the partition. but- it still boots to it
[13:40] <subcool> and now it doesnt chain load to the other one.
[13:40] <EriC^^> subcool: you have kubuntu and debian on same hdd?
[13:41] <EriC^^> there's also a 128gb usb with a live iso on it?
[13:41] <subcool> use to
[13:41] <subcool> lms?
[13:42] <subcool> thats all the same drive.
[13:42] <EriC^^> right now there's just a lvm partition taking up 128gb, it has kubuntu , home, var, tmp and swap as the partitions
[13:42] <EriC^^> kubuntu is 15.7gb
[13:43] <subcool> yeah...
[13:43] <subcool> here, maybe this'll help. hold on.
[13:43] <EriC^^> ok
[13:43] <subcool> boot repair has a great readout
[13:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:45] <subcool> but its convinced my LiveUSB is a real install
[13:45] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YCgYDJbZ9g/
[13:48] <neteffect> Hello I'm trying to open a file with Freeplane, a mindmapping program written in java.  When I click open, the dialog box will not browse my USB drives.  When I select /media, no files or folders will even appear.  I click 'create folder', for fun, and I get a java.io.IOException error.  Can anyone shed any light on this?
[13:49] <ducasse> neteffect: is it installed as a snap?
[13:49] <neteffect> i installed it though Ubuntu Software.  Then I even updated my Java.
[13:50] <neteffect> is that snap?  sry i don't know
[13:50] <EriC^^> subcool: i still dont see any mention of debian, except in the uefi list
[13:50] <EriC^^> subcool: anyway's let's get kubuntu booting for now i guess, did you have anything important on the debian install?
[13:50] <subcool> yeah, i deleted the partition.
[13:50] <subcool> nope- its gone
[13:50] <EriC^^> oh, i thought you said both exist right now
[13:51] <EriC^^> ok
[13:51] <subcool> in grub they do
[13:51] <subcool> kinda
[13:51] <EriC^^> subcool: anyways, type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" and le tme know if it find dirs or says no such file
[13:53] <subcool> sudo ls /sys/firmware/efi
[13:53] <subcool> config_table  efivars  esrt  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars
[13:55] <ducasse> neteffect: it can be either, check with 'snap list'
[14:01] <gstafraff> Hello Guys, I'm new here, and I hope I'm in the correct Channel... Anyway I just Installed Ubuntu server on my old notebook, and now it wont boot, it tells that I should install an OS. Do you know this problem? Do you have an Idea why it wont boot?
[14:01] <subcool> i honestly think icould makeit work myself ifi could get boot-repair to reailze its in USB mode. I was about to burn a CD :/
[14:02] <benfrancis> How come there are both armhf and arm64 builds of Ubuntu Core for the Raspberry Pi, and how should I choose which one to use? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/
[14:03] <pragmaticenigma> benfrancis: I think the armhf is for the 32bit ARM processors
[14:04] <pragmaticenigma> nope... looks like that isn't correct
[14:04] <pragmaticenigma> benfrancis: armhf stands for "arm hard float", and is the name given to a debian port for arm processors (armv7+) that have hardware floating point support.
[14:05] <benfrancis> pragmaticenigma: Thank you but I already know that, unfortunately it doesn't answer my question
[14:05] <waveform> benfrancis, armhf is a 32-bit variant, arm64 is a 64-bit variant - both run on all the pis we support which is the pi2, 3, 3+, and 4, but there's one exception the pi2 doesn't support arm64 (currently)
[14:05] <benfrancis> waveform: Thank you :) Are there any downsides to choosing 64 bit?
[14:06] <waveform> which one you pick is largely up to what you intend to do with it - there's some minimal performance advantage to arm64, but armhf (currently) has better hardware support - there are some things on arm64 which are problematic (but which are being worked on either upstream or here)
[14:07] <waveform> e.g. last I checked the pigpiod daemon doesn't work on arm64, and there were issues with the camera firmware on arm64 - I know the latter has been worked on (might be complete now - haven't had the time to look into it)
[14:08] <subcool> no local cd's
[14:08] <benfrancis> waveform: OK, thanks. I will test both.
[14:09] <oerheks> gstafraff, make sure you set boot in the bios to the hdd/
[14:09] <oerheks> gstafraff, also, there is #ubuntu-server here on #freenode
[14:14] <subcool> now boot repair is complaing ab out open package manager
[14:15] <zetheroo> is there a possibility that Ubuntu is limiting my WiFi speed?
[14:17] <oerheks> zetheroo, interesting thought; i do not think so.
[14:17] <Pettis> Please can anyone suggest a log file to `tail -f` which might tell me why my monitors are randomly loosing signal?  `/var/log/syslog` isn't bearing fruit (bionic)
[14:17] <zetheroo> connected via Ethernet to the router I get about 250mbps down, whereas on WiFi (less than a meter from the router) I get about 95mbps down max
[14:17] <zetheroo> this happens on both Ubuntu 18.04 laptops I have
[14:18] <zetheroo> thing is that the WiFi devices are all rated as being able to do a lot more than ~95mbps
[14:18] <oerheks> depends what type of wireless..
[14:19] <oerheks> if you test from laptop wireless to laptop wireless, both have to use the same bandwidth, right?
[14:19] <zetheroo> well the router is a fritzbox 3490 and I am connected via the 2.4ghz network
[14:20] <oerheks> so, together 190 mbs.. pretty good
[14:20] <zetheroo> ?
[14:20] <zetheroo> I don't get 190mbps
[14:20] <oerheks> 95 up, and 95 down..
[14:21] <zetheroo> no, it's more like 50 up .. which is the max for my Internet connection anyhow
[14:21] <zetheroo> but why can't I get more than ~90mbps down?
[14:21] <akem> zetheroo, How do you test your wifi bandwith?
[14:21] <oerheks> how do you test exactly?
[14:22] <Pettis> zetheroo, late to the convo but have you tried another device or OS as reference?
[14:22] <zetheroo> https://speedtest.quickline.com/
[14:23] <oerheks> Do a gb testfile from laptop wireless to laptop wireless?
[14:23] <zetheroo> Pettis: no ... I haven't
[14:23] <zetheroo> oerheks: you mean via the router or directly?
[14:23] <jeremy31> zetheroo: have you looked at iwconfig results to see if power management is on?
[14:23] <Pettis> zetheroo, maybe try speedtest.net on your smartphone or something?
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: Wifi is affected by hundreds of factors. Your own presence in the room will have an effect, the wireless plane emitted by the router and the laptop, other wireless devices in the area, other wireless devices also communicating with the AP. You will almost never see the max throughput of your wifi device... if you look, you will always see that the rating was done in a laboratory setting under optimal conditions
[14:24] <Pettis> +1 for power management, a lot of reports of problems with Ubuntu and WiFi power mgmt on the internet
[14:24] <zetheroo> jeremy31: seems it is Power Management:on
[14:25] <jeremy31> zetheroo: in terminal>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf
[14:26] <jeremy31> zetheroo: then you can reboot, or run this command that will temporarily disconnect wifi>  systemctl restart network-manager.service
[14:26] <g105b> Hello, Ubuntu 18.04 user here. I want to run a python script using python3. The script requires me to install something via pip. I can do all that fine, but the library that I've installed via pip seems to only be availble to scripts interpreted by python2.
[14:26] <zetheroo> jeremy31: is that same and can it be easily undone if needed?
[14:26] <zetheroo> *safe
[14:27] <jeremy31> zetheroo: just switch the 2 and 3 around in the command
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: Do not use PIP to install packages on bare Ubuntu... please use pythons virtual environment to install pips
[14:27] <zetheroo> jeremy31: ok
[14:27] <EriC^^> wb subcool
[14:27] <Pettis> zetheroo, may not be the answer your looking for but if a hardware solution is appropriate maybe a powerline adapter could help
[14:27] <subcool> sorry- had to reboot. then reinstall everything
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: also run your application in the same virtual env
[14:27] <EriC^^> ah, any luck?
[14:27] <subcool> EriC^^: thanks..
[14:27] <subcool> ha. no.
[14:28] <EriC^^> subcool: what kind of pc is it?
[14:28] <EriC^^> what model
[14:28] <subcool> now i have a new error. Boot-repair says. Close all packag managers before i can make it work
[14:28] <subcool> laptop. HP ...
[14:28] <EriC^^> oh ok
[14:28] <zetheroo> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf
[14:28] <zetheroo> systemctl restart network-manager.service
[14:28] <subcool> id have to go digging for a model
[14:28] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, let's try to reinstall grub and see what can be done
[14:28] <EriC^^> subcool: nah it's ok no need
[14:28] <zetheroo> sorry, just putting it here again so I have it on my other laptop
[14:28] <Pettis> g105b, yeah, `pipenv` or similar would be etter but if you are doing in in ubuntu you may be looking for `pip3 install`
[14:28] <EriC^^> subcool: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:29] <subcool> Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[14:29] <subcool> https://termbin.com/nks4
[14:29] <subcool> i have no idea how my USB got .... compromised.
[14:30] <jeremy31> subcool: That part is normal
[14:30] <EriC^^> subcool: that's normal, it's cause of the live usb
[14:31] <subcool> >:o
[14:31] <EriC^^> subcool: type "sudo mount /dev/mapper/envy--vg-kubuntu /mnt"
[14:31] <g105b> pragmaticenigma, Pettis: thank you for pointing that out.
[14:31] <subcool> k
[14:31] <EriC^^> subcool: then type "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done"
[14:34] <EriC^^> subcool: done?
[14:36] <subcool> EriC^^: yep
[14:37] <EriC^^> subcool: type "sudo chroot /mnt"
[14:37] <EriC^^> then "mount -a"
[14:37] <subcool> k
[14:38] <EriC^^> subcool: type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here
[14:39] <subcool> https://termbin.com/mfko
[14:39] <EriC^^> subcool: usually hp are a little stubborn when it comes to uefi and linux, on my hp i have to switch the uefi files to trick the bios
[14:40] <subcool> mines ok..
[14:40] <subcool> ive thought about getting use to haveing it signed and all so i know the knew system
[14:40] <subcool> most of the time i force legecy
[14:40] <subcool> but like you said, it get stubburn.
[14:40] <gstafraff> oerheks much thanks! I will continue in the #ubuntu-server
[14:40] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, so let's first remove grub-pc
[14:41] <subcool> so i tend to have a MBR grub, and ufi
[14:41] <subcool> or whatever gets it to turn on.
[14:41] <subcool> lol
[14:41] <EriC^^> subcool: gotcha
[14:41] <EriC^^> subcool: type 'apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin'
[14:42] <EriC^^> it might ask to install grub-efi-amd64 if not, type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[14:42] <subcool> apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[14:42] <EriC^^> yup
[14:42] <subcool> roflmao
[14:42] <EriC^^> :D
[14:42] <subcool> k
[14:42] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, type 'efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:43] <Xtrem_troll> Hi
[14:43] <subcool> https://termbin.com/b7pl
[14:43] <Xtrem_troll> what is better for Ubuntu: UEFI or Bios?
[14:43] <subcool> thats new
[14:43] <Xtrem_troll> how I can find a new computer with no EUFI?
[14:43] <subcool> it still shows debian...
[14:43] <EriC^^> Xtrem_troll: both are good, uefi sometimes can be a little more involved cause of the manufacturer or the laptop/motherboard
[14:44] <subcool> Xtrem_troll: liek what we are dealing with
[14:44] <EriC^^> subcool: yeah, that's a uefi entry in the motherboard, it's just a ghost left over at this point :P
[14:44] <subcool> ah.
[14:44] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, type 'grub-install'
[14:44] <subcool> but check that out- they were both still in teh EFI folder....
[14:45] <EriC^^> subcool: yeah, it's just the bootloader
[14:45] <subcool> cant find EFI directory
[14:45] <EriC^^> interesting
[14:45] <EriC^^> subcool: type 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> Xtrem_troll: All new computers are implemented with UEFI, there might be a few that don't, but that is the direction of the overall industry. As for which is better, that depends on your use case. UEFI adds protections for preventing malicious programs or attackers from modifying boot records. Most system allow you to disable the UEFI but you will need to consult the documenation for the motherboard or computer manufacturer
[14:45] <subcool> https://termbin.com/1cf9
[14:45] <thecc> hello, how do I save my nvidia-settings?? I change it to 144hz and ubuntu keeps autochanging it to 60hz for no reason.
[14:46] <thecc> 19.10 ubuntu
[14:46] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, type 'ls /boot/efi'
[14:47] <Xtrem_troll> pragmaticenigma: thanks for your pragmatic answser
[14:47] <EriC^^> subcool: does it give back 'efi' as a dir?
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> thecc: you should be able to change it in Display in the Ubuntu settings
[14:47] <subcool> nope
[14:47] <subcool> wait...
[14:48] <EriC^^> subcool: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:48] <subcool> root@kubuntu:/# ls /boot/efi  
[14:48] <subcool> root@kubuntu:/#  
[14:48] <subcool> root@kubuntu:/#
[14:48] <thecc> pragmaticenigma i dont see any option for hz in display, only resolution
[14:48] <EriC^^> ok seems empty
[14:48] <zetheroo1> ok, so switching off the power management on the WiFi device didn't make any difference. I also tested in Windows 10 and the speed was no different. So I guess it's not the OS and not the WiFi adapter.... must be the router!?
[14:48] <subcool> mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo1: Did you not see my comment earlier?
[14:48] <EriC^^> wrong window :P
[14:49] <subcool> that went everywhere
[14:49] <subcool> a randome text pad opened up
[14:49] <zetheroo1>  pragmaticenigma: sorry, might not have ... was disconnected for a while
[14:49] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: Wifi is affected by many different factors. Your own presence in the room will have an effect, the wireless plane emitted by the router and the laptop, other wireless devices in the area, other wireless devices also communicating with the AP. You will almost never see the max throughput of your wifi device... if you look, you will always see that the rating was done in a laboratory setting under optimal conditions
[14:49] <EriC^^> subcool: odd, try closing it
[14:50] <subcool> i think my mouse just dragged. i clsed it.
[14:50] <EriC^^> it should just give a link back
[14:50] <zetheroo1>  pragmaticenigma: yes, I am aware of all that, but getting less than half of what the device should be able to do!?
[14:50] <subcool> https://termbin.com/l4uv
[14:50] <EriC^^> ty
[14:50] <EriC^^> ok lookts like /boot/efi is mounted
[14:50] <EriC^^> subcool: type "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[14:51] <zetheroo1> maybe I should try out 5G on the router and see if that's any better ...
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo1: It is entirely possible... make sure the router is up high and away from other appliances, especially microwaves, VCRs, TVs
[14:51] <subcool> grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[14:51] <EriC^^> lol what's with grub today
[14:51] <EriC^^> subcool: no worries
[14:51] <jeremy31> zetheroo1: Post URL for> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:51] <subcool> turned into a grub-worm
[14:51] <zetheroo1>  pragmaticenigma: it's in the corner of the living room (center of the house) far as it can be from any other device
[14:52] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, let's format /boot/efi again and try again
[14:52] <EriC^^> subcool: type 'umount /boot/efi'
[14:52] <zetheroo1> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/b9yc
[14:52] <subcool> umount: /boot/efi: not mounted.
[14:52] <EriC^^> weird
[14:53] <EriC^^> subcool: try 'mount /boot/efi'
[14:53] <jeremy31> zetheroo1: try this command and reboot> echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwl-opt.conf
[14:54] <subcool> ok
[14:54] <EriC^^> subcool: type "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[14:54] <zetheroo1> ok
[14:54] <zetheroo1> brb
[14:55] <subcool> that worked
[14:55] <EriC^^> subcool: awesome, try efibootmgr -v | nc termbincom 9999
[14:55] <EriC^^> subcool: ,typo,awesome, try "efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:55] <subcool> https://termbin.com/2ohr
[14:56] <EriC^^> subcool: ok it looks good, new grub entry there
[14:56] <EriC^^> can you type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" just want to see one last thing
[14:57] <subcool> https://termbin.com/fwu2
[14:57] <zetheroo> jeremy31: rebooted and speed is the same.
[14:57] <EriC^^> subcool: also type "efibootmgr -B -b 0000"
[14:57] <EriC^^> subcool: also type "efibootmgr -B -b 0001"
[14:57] <EriC^^> to clean up those entries of ubuntu & debian
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: something else to check.. use a tool like wifi analyzer to see if your router is on a congested channel. Also, check your router settings, if it offers the ability to lower the signal strength, try lowering it if it is set to max
[14:58] <EriC^^> subcool: ok, type "exit" then try rebooting using uefi
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> (wifi analyzer is a tool found for mobile devices)
[14:59] <subcool> k
[14:59] <subcool> brb.. thanks EriC^^
[14:59] <EriC^^> no problem subcool
[15:01] <jeremy31> zetheroo: Run the 2 commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480 and post termbin URL after second command is run
[15:02] <zetheroo> jeremy31: do I need to undo the last command you gave me to do?
[15:02] <jeremy31> zetheroo: not for now
[15:03] <zetheroo> ok
[15:04] <zetheroo> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/yvpxr
[15:06] <jeremy31> zetheroo: try changing the router to channel 1, and run that first command again> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf
[15:12] <zetheroo> jeremy31: no change
[15:24] <zetheroo> am I connected?
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: yes, we can see you
[15:26] <zetheroo> ok
[15:26] <TomyWork> hnnng, in kubuntu 18.04, the network-manager gui for changing passwords in a strongswan VPN connection is broken. it'll happily let you enter a password and apply, but effectively, nothing happens
[15:26] <TomyWork> this cost me about a days
[15:26] <TomyWork> -s
[15:28] <mrproper> I have a Kubuntu install that is in VMware Fusion and it's having network problems. I'm trying to do an ifup on the interface but ifconfig and ifup aren't installed...but it doesn't have network connectivity. How can I bring it up?
[15:29] <messerting> Hi, I've got a server connected to the company's AD (kerberos, PBIS, samba). How can I find the ldap address to be used in eg ldapsearch?
[15:29] <neteffect> Hmmm, I have a custom program I'd like to add to favorites, can't seem to figure it out.
[15:32] <TomyWork> mrproper, kubuntu 18.04 is using network-manager. there should be a network management icon in the task tray
[15:32] <TomyWork> looks like a screen with an antenna at the left
[15:32] <mrproper> Yeah I've got that but there's an x on it.
[15:33] <TomyWork> what do you see when you click it?
[15:33] <mrproper> I have my wired connection and VPN.
[15:34] <TomyWork> did you try to disconnect+reconnect your wired connection?
[15:34] <mrproper> In Fusion?
[15:35] <mrproper> It's really a bridge to my mac's wireless.
[15:37] <jeremy31> zetheroo: Try disabling IPv6 in Network Manager for your connection and also do> sudo iw reg set CH
[15:49] <zetheroo> jeremy31: I connected to the 5Ghz network on my fritzbox and I get the full 250mbps speed now
[15:49] <subcool> my bad -
[15:49] <subcool> its up
[15:50] <jeremy31> zetheroo: I also noticed your country code was set to China and it seems you are in Europe
[15:50] <TomyWork> mrproper, no, in KDE's network management widget
[15:50] <zetheroo> jeremy31: country code?
[15:50] <zetheroo> yes, I am in Switzerland
[15:50] <jeremy31> zetheroo: the iw reg get  command will show result
[15:50] <zetheroo> where is it set/changable?
[15:51] <jeremy31> zetheroo: use command>  sudo iw reg set CH
[15:52] <zetheroo> ok, thanks
[15:52] <zetheroo> are there any other settings I need to/should undo/redo?
[15:53] <jeremy31> zetheroo: I would double check router encryption settings to see if TKIP is enabled and causing an issue
[15:54] <zetheroo> jeremy31: it's set to WPA2 (CCMP)
[15:58] <mrproper> TomyWork: How do I disconnect it?
[16:00] <jeremy31> zetheroo: Might be as good as it gets
[16:00] <mrproper> TomyWork: The connection doesn't show up in the little popup. Only when I go into network connnection.s
[16:13] <TomyWork> mrproper, there's the nmcli command which has excellent tab completion
[16:13] <TomyWork> type "nmcli connection down" and press tab to see which connections you have
[16:13] <TomyWork> then "up" on the same connection
[16:22] <bitblit> anyone using getmail with gmail? can't get it to delete messages. I have set delete = true and move_on_delete = "[Gmail]/Trash"
[16:24] <mceier> bitblit: move it to [Google Mail]/Bin then store \Deleted flag (if you're talking IMAP); you need to make Bin visible in IMAP through gmail settings
[16:26] <mceier> bitblit: I had to remove a bunch of mails few days ago, since I was approaching 15GB and the above is what I did ;)
[16:37] <MyroSVK> https://www.rouming.cz/upload/stay_home.png
[16:42] <beiz> !updatebios
[16:42] <beiz> !biosupdate
[16:44] <oerheks> MyroSVK, no spam here, please, thanks!
[16:44] <oerheks> or on #freenode
[16:47] <MyroSVK> links are spam? lol
[16:48] <oerheks> MyroSVK, read the topic, ubuntu technical support, not the playroom
[16:48] <dax> MyroSVK: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, #freenode is for general technical support, #debian is for Debian technical support, etc. Crossposting offtopic stuff to multiple channels is a bad idea, apart from anything else it's likely to irritate the anti-spam bot.
[16:57] <realies> can you do groupmod changes without having the package?
[16:57] <realies> trying to minimise the additional dependancies from ubuntu:bionic docker image
[16:57] <realies> *to
[17:00] <realies> groupmod package does not exist and the command is not found in the docker image either?
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> realies: Docker images are not supported here. They are typically customized by their creators to suit a particular purpose, and thus you need to contact the maintainer of that image directly
[17:02] <realies> pragmaticenigma, Maintained by: Canonical and Tianon (Debian Developer)
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> realies: Support would be available if you were using the Ubuntu Core images. To the best of my knowledge Canonical has not officially created any Docker images. Docker Hub does not presently verify claims of who makes the images. This channel is run by volunteers that leverage the documentation provided through Ubuntu's official domain sites. There is no documentation there for Docker images.
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> realies: In standard Ubuntu installs, groupmod is provided via the passwd package
[17:15] <mrproper> TomyWork: "Connection activation filed: No suitable device found for this connection (device ens33 not available because device has no carrier)."
[17:15] <TomyWork> acquire pigeon
[17:16] <mrproper> I can't get out of the house to pick one up due to the virus.
[17:16] <TomyWork> oh ok
[17:16] <TomyWork> ens33 is what?
[17:16] <TomyWork> your VM's interface?
[17:17] <mrproper> I believe it should be, yes. That's always worked in the past.
[17:17] <TomyWork> wild idea: did your wifi driver change or something?
[17:18] <mrproper> I don't think the wifi driver did. However, this did become a problem, I think, when I upgraded (minor version) VMware Fusion.
[17:18] <TomyWork> maybe you need to tell fusion to use the new wifi interface
[17:19] <mrproper> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Q7KtClW2/image.png
[17:22] <mrproper> TomyWork: I'm going to try to reboot my host. brb
[17:29] <mrproper> TomyWork: And now it works. Who knows.
[17:33] <TomyWork> ^^
[17:34] <TomyWork> es we say in germany, Reboot tut gut
[17:34] <TomyWork> as*
[17:35] <mrproper> Oh well, thank you for your help!
[17:37] <TomyWork> np
[17:40] <TomyWork> i have a problem of my own, btw: "{systemd-resolve,nslookup,ping,host} internally-resolvable-name.mycompany.de" can't resolve that name, but "nslookup internally-resolvable-name.mycompany.de <company dns>" can. <company dns> is set as the primary dns
[17:41] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, systemd-resolve --status ?
[17:41] <TomyWork> i can even verify that systemd-resolved knows about <company dns> using, "systemd-resolve --status" and by sending sigusr1 to the daemon and looking at the journal
[17:42] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/8ba028f3f56b90a3ce1dc1b88a299dc0
[17:42] <TomyWork> <correct primary dns> is <company dns>
[17:42] <TomyWork> <correct secondary dns> is the other company dns :)
[17:43] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, and is your IP on enx34298f961107 ?
[17:43] <TomyWork> according to wireshark, when doing a --flush-caches and resolving something, only <my home router's DNS forwarder's IP> is queried
[17:43] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, same as my router's IP except for the last octet
[17:44] <TomyWork> oh "is your IP on", not "what is your IP on"... uh what do you mean by that? what IP should be on there?
[17:45] <TomyWork> oh i forgot to mention this is a VPN type situation
[17:45] <TomyWork> the company DNS is behind VPN and the VPN connection is established
[17:45] <TomyWork> oddly enough, i can't find any tun devices, but that might be normal
[17:45] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, The DNS settings are on enx34298f961107. If that's not where the IP you are using is, it might not work properly.
[17:45] <lordcirth_> Any errors in "journalctl --unit systemd-resolved -S today"?
[17:46] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, but i'm querying a name... how do i use an IP while querying a name?
[17:46] <TomyWork> i know that systemd-resolved does interface-specific dns configuration, but not how
[17:46] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, IIRC, the DNS settings are set depending on which interface is currently your default one.
[17:47] <TomyWork> how do i tell which one is the default?
[17:47] <TomyWork> nmcli says "        ip4 default, ip6 default" under that interface, is it that?
[17:47] <lordcirth_> Which one is used to reach the default gateway, I think.
[17:48] <TomyWork> isn't the default gateway a per-interface setting?
[17:48] <TomyWork> default         fritz.box       0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 enx34298f961107
[17:48] <TomyWork> that'S from "route"
[17:48] <TomyWork> apparently it's not a per-interface setting :)
[17:48] <Pettis> I think I just accidentally my whole packages.  I did `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` and then `sudo apt-get install`ed some i386 libs but didn't notice the `518 to remove` and dpkg started nuking my system.  Shall I just reinstall all uninstalled and hope for the best or try to remove the i386 architecture first?
[17:49] <TomyWork> Pettis, is a complete reinstall of the system an option?
[17:49] <TomyWork> cause that would be the easiest :)
[17:50] <TomyWork> otherwise, there's some log file with packages installed
[17:50] <Pettis> TomyWork, haha, well, it's always an option but less than ideal
[17:50] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, each interface can have routes that are set up when the interface is turned on, but which default route is actually in place matters
[17:50] <TomyWork> it's at /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:51] <Pettis> I still have the output so was thinking I could just copy and paste all those removed into a new install command? :/
[17:51] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, that seems to be the enx interface
[17:51] <TomyWork> Pettis, might work. after all, dpkg/apt doesn't remove your config files unless you actually purge
[17:53] <Pettis> TomyWork, thanks... that's what I was thinking.  I am just wondering if there is any risk it's going to try to install :i386 versions... or does it only do that if the package names are explicitly suffixed?
[17:53] <TomyWork> the later
[17:54] <Pettis> great, thanks.  Will give it a crack
[17:58] <jlna> Ubuntu 19.10 after updating my sound is gone, only the dummy output remains. I have a machine that uses the the intel_hda module
[18:00] <nshire> hrm I'm getting an infinite blank purple screen when trying to boot normally
[18:00] <gstafraff> Hello, as I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu server, I thought if there's a possibility to install the normal Ubuntu distro without a GUI, this would also be an option...
[18:00] <gstafraff> So is this possible?
[18:00] <nshire> and when booting into recoery it just stick on "loading initial ramdisk"
[18:00] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, so the default route goes to the interface that the company DNS is configure for. any idea why systemd-resolved might not be using that DNS server?
[18:01] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, Any errors in "journalctl --unit systemd-resolved -S today"?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> jlna: there is a known bug on kernel 5.3 -42 with alsa
[18:02] <TomyWork> Server returned error NXDOMAIN, mitigating potential DNS violation DVE-2018-0001, retrying transaction with reduced feature level UDP.
[18:02] <TomyWork> and also "Using degraded feature set (UDP) for DNS server 192.168.178.1."
[18:02] <TomyWork> that's my router
[18:02] <lordcirth_> Ok, that's normal
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> jlna: please check bug #1867803 to see if you can reproduce
[18:02] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, you might want to contact your company's IT about their VPN config
[18:03] <TomyWork> i'd need to be specific
[18:03] <TomyWork> cause it works on windows and the linux settings are kinda my doing
[18:12] <TomyWork> lordcirth_, what do you think is wrong with their VPN config?
[18:12] <lordcirth_> TomyWork, I have no idea.
[18:12] <TomyWork> and do you mean server-side or client-side config
[18:12] <lordcirth_> It might not be wrong, either
[18:12] <TomyWork> oh
[18:16] <stevelanday> EriC^^, Good day!  when you have a moment for me, wanted you to know that I believe I was sucessfull at backing up my APPLE drive.
[18:18] <wingedrhino> Hi! Is there an opensource tool to create and manage private apt repositories? Specifically, I want the ability to restrict access to these repositories, which seems to be supported by apt https://web.archive.org/web/20190722115404/https://debian-administration.org/article/513/Restrict_Access_To_Your_Private_Debian_Repository
[18:19] <sarnold> wingedrhino: you can build an apt repo using apt-ftparchive (don't let the name scare you off, works fine via eg nginx or apache) or a more specialized tool like aptly
[18:19] <jlna> lotuspsychje, thank you, I'll check that bug.
[18:19] <sarnold> wingedrhino: at least nginx and apache have incredibly detailed access controls if you want; I don't know much about aptly, but it's go SO MANY FEATURES that I have to imagine access control is one of them
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> jlna: normally -40 or -43 would fix this
[18:24] <EriC^^> stevelanday: great!
[18:24] <EriC^^> stevelanday: you could try using testdisk to recover the files or partition, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[18:26] <wingedrhino> sarnold, Aptly looks interesting! I forgot to mention, I also need some form of high availability. The idea is to create a private apt repo for Ubuntu/debian instances managed by a company and prevent unauthorized users from accessing it
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> wingedrhino: The tools mentioned manage the packages, the access is controlled by the service provider you choose (Apache, Nginx, etc)
[18:31] <wingedrhino> if I understand it correctly, an apt repository is just a set of files under a root folder, right? And access management should happen via the mechanism used to access these files, like SSH, FTP, HTTP w/ BasicAuth, etc?
[18:36] <Intelo> I have fresh ubuntu 19 now. How to make sure I use the latest ruby and not the one that "is going to be" installed with passanger
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> wingedrhino: yes
[18:42] <stevelanday> EriC^^, working on that, install of testdisk appears complete, however im not seeing it anywhere yet. hmmm...looking
[18:44] <sarnold> wingedrhino: HA is *easy*, it's just http. run as many servers as you need.
[18:47] <EriC^^> stevelanday: can you screenshot what you see?
[18:47] <EriC^^> stevelanday: you want to do sudo testdisk > then choose your disk
[18:47] <EriC^^> keep the partition type as it is by default, then go to analyze quick search
[18:48] <jlna> lotuspsychje, thank you, my speaker sound has been restored. My microphone still does not work however. I use an external headset that connects straight to the audio jack, so no USB issues.
[18:48] <stevelanday> EriC^^, yep, i just read about how to on a tecmint site, standby
[18:48] <EriC^^> ok
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> jlna: ok, affect yourself to the bug, and wait till the fix comes out
[18:49] <jlna> lotuspsychje, I have already "affected" mysel to the bug
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[18:50] <jlna> lotuspsychje, howver, it does stand in the way of having a remote meeting. For that I need my microphone. As so many I'm currently in quarantaine and need to stay at home.
[18:50] <jlna> howver -> however
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> jlna: wich kernel did you boot now?
[18:51] <jlna> lotuspsychje, but thank you so much. Having audio output restored is a step forward.
[18:52] <jlna> lotuspsychje, 5.3.0-7642-generic
[18:52] <stevelanday> EriC^^,                                  ihave a screen print for ya, whats proper proceedure to send it
[18:52] <EriC^^> try imgur.com
[18:52] <EriC^^> stevelanday:
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> jlna: try 5.3 -40 maybe as a test, if you still have that version?
[18:53] <jlna> lotuspsychje, I'm afraid not. In trying to troubleshoot I issued an apt autoremove
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> jlna: ah ok, and i would not really reccomend the fixxed 43 from proposed, as you could also get in trouble
[18:54] <gbear14275> When apt is looking for a Y/n answer... does it just check if the first letter is y or something else?
[18:54] <jlna> lotuspsychje, yes kernel proposed is not really suitable for a business laptop
[18:55] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/HEeCWJH
[18:55] <EriC^^> ty
[18:55] <jlna> lotuspsychje, I would have chosen a stable Ubuntu 18.04, but my laptop was too new for that O_o
[18:55] <fraktor> I just installed Ubuntu, but I'm using a fairly minimal desktop environment with i3, compton, and polybar.  I'm using nm-applet for network management, but it's saying that my ethernet device is not managed.  I've gone through several advised steps to add it to network manager, but nmcli reports that it is still unmanaged.
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> jlna: ah, you could fix that with choosing an LTS with the HWE kernel also in the future
[18:56] <jlna> lotuspsychje, I'll fire up aptitude or synaptic to see if I can still revert to the old kernel.
[18:56] <EriC^^> stevelanday: those are the current partitions in the table, try typing "sudo testdisk" then choose sda, then efi gpt, then analyze then quick search
[18:56] <jlna> lotuspsychje, Yes, looking forward to Focal
[18:57] <stevelanday> EriC^^, standby
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> jlna: no i meant like 18.04 with HWE kernel support, probably fixxing the issues on your newer hardware
[18:58] <EriC^^> stevelanday: roger that
[18:58] <EriC^^> :D
[18:58] <jlna> lotuspsychje, I didn't know that was possible. Good to know!
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | jlna for the future ; )
[18:58] <jlna> Niiice :-D
[18:59] <stevelanday> EriC^^, results from entering sudo testdisk were 3 choices: Create, Append, No Log  (i'm gonna guess I'm creating a new log file?)
[18:59] <wingedrhino> sarnold, thanks! guess I'll finish reading up on aptly first, set things up without auth and then figure out access control.
[18:59] <akem> fraktor, It should be added automaticly AFAIK, do you see your ethernet card with ifconfig?
[19:00] <sarnold> wingedrhino: cool! I always kinda wanted to use aptly, it's so well documented/promoted, hehe, but I just don't need its features
[19:00] <fraktor> akem: ifconfig is not installed on my machine, but ip link shows it.
[19:01] <wingedrhino> BTW are there any tools to automate distro version upgrades across multiple machines? Reckon I could use aptly itself to switch sources from old mirrors (eg: 18.04) to new ones (eg: 20:04) ?
[19:02] <wingedrhino> I assume that would be a VERY BAD IDEA if I wasn't doing adjacent version upgrades....
[19:02] <fraktor> I should mention that I switched from debian unstable to ubuntu, and I kept my home directory and configuration files.  So it's possible it's a problem with that.
[19:03] <wingedrhino> I forgot to mention, this would be for unattended IoT devices
[19:03] <akem> fraktor, I see...Well maybe try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager ?
[19:03] <wingedrhino> Also maybe desktops. But the primary use-case is to upgrade some Raspberry Pis running custom software.
[19:04] <EriC^^> stevelanday: yeah, create log
[19:04] <akem> fraktor, It shouldn't affect the ethernet and the Network-manager, since it's at the system level.
[19:05] <fraktor> That's what I assumed, but I thought I would mention it in case it was relevant.
[19:05] <yates> i have a system with an AMD66 and Turks GL video.
[19:05] <akem> fraktor, Ok, yeah good to know, we never know...
[19:05] <tacctical> Is there anyway to prevent ubuntu 19.10 from changing my 144hz setting to 60hz all the time?
[19:06] <yates> i just received a 4K 3840x2160 monitor and, while it's using the entire monitor area, it is shift
[19:06] <yates> shifted
[19:06] <yates> i.e., the left edge of the desktop is not at the left edge of the display, rather somewhere around 60 percent to the right. and it wraps back to the left.
[19:07] <yates> do i need a driver or something?
[19:07] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/CSNN7aV
[19:07] <yates> another system i have with nvidia works fine
[19:07] <yates> same monitor
[19:07] <zutat> yates: does it connect with two cables?
[19:07] <akem> fraktor, If reconfigure doesn't change anything, i would try to apt remove --purge it, then reinstall the Network-manager.
[19:07] <yates> zutat: no
[19:08] <sarnold> wingedrhino: I think you've just got to run do-release-upgrade on each system. this might be something landscape can automate, but it's occasionally an interactive process, "how do you want to handle these changes?" kind of thing. probably best to drive them manually.
[19:08] <yates> just one
[19:09] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok, hit quick search
[19:09] <stevelanday> EriC^^, done
[19:09] <EriC^^> look for anything that seems macos
[19:09] <yates> a display port cable, liek this: https://www.cdw.com/product/Tripp-Lite-DisplayPort-Cable-w-Latches-Digital-A-V-4K-6ft-EXCLUSIVE-PRICE/1561875?cm_cat=google&cm_ite=1561875&cm_pla=NA-NA-Tripp%20Lite_CC&cm_ven=acquirgy&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIzLipyqm26AIViZyzCh2e2AclEAQYASABEgLEOvD_BwE:G:s&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzLipyqm26AIViZyzCh2e2AclEAQYASABEgLEOvD_BwE&s_kwcid=AL!4223!3!47988697099!!!g!325576862781!
[19:09] <EriC^^> stevelanday: is it searching?
[19:09] <stevelanday> EriC^^, yep highlighted both partitions now green
[19:09] <people398594> Hi, I don't want my external drives to show up in the sidebar
[19:10] <yates> i have both systems connected to the same monitor, the nvidia/fedora with hdmi, and the amd/ubuntu with displayport
[19:10] <EriC^^> stevelanday: aha, it should start giving some potential partitions it found
[19:11] <stevelanday> EriC^^ https://imgur.com/undefined
[19:11] <stevelanday> ooops
[19:11] <stevelanday> EriC^^,  https://imgur.com/ZIKDSsJ
[19:12] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok press enter
[19:12] <EriC^^> i think it should offer a 'deep search'
[19:12] <yates> anyone?
[19:12] <yates> need a video driver?
[19:13] <stevelanday> EriC^^,  https://imgur.com/VMxQmB1
[19:15] <stevelanday> EriC^^, working now
[19:16] <stevelanday> EriC^^, could take a while, will post results when finished
[19:16] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok
[19:18] <jlna> ubuntu 19.10 headphone microphone is not selectable as input, does not show up in alsamixer either. the builtin microphone is selectable however
[19:19] <jlna> acpi_listen shos that the system detects the insertion of both the microphone plug and the headphone plug
[19:19] <jlna> acpi_listen shows that the system detects the insertion of both the microphone plug and the headphone plug
[19:19] <stevelanday> EriC^^, its doing sylinder analyze so heres what it sees https://imgur.com/XRnIht8
[19:24] <yates> dudes?
[19:24] <EriC^^> stevelanday: i see, i think it might not be able to find the old macos partition in case the swap overwrote its stuff, but testdisk has another program called photorec, you can choose which types of files to get, or all, and it will go over the hdd or partition and get them, but you won't have the file structure, directory or filenames etc, but the data will be there
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> !patience | yates
[19:25] <EriC^^> stevelanday: anyways let deepsearch run, if it shows any promising partitions that'd be nice, also if you have an old paste or text of your old partition table that woul be helpful to try to manually mount it using its sector location
[19:26] <stevelanday> EriC^^, gotcha  its already found another one, "Unkown 116983208" so yea, i'll let this run
[19:27] <sarnold> yates: you may need to more concisely state what you're doing; I see a bunch of three-word lines from you that don't communicate if you're trying to solve something for yourself or if you're trying to suggest to someone else what might fix their problem
[19:47] <people398594> Hi, I don't want my external drives to show up in the dock
[19:48] <oerheks> easy to find; http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/11/hide-mounted-drives-left-dock-ubuntu-19-10/
[19:48] <oerheks> and more interesting options there
[19:49] <people398594> Thanks
[19:49] <people398594> Gah
[19:49] <people398594> HTTP
[19:49] <oerheks> but you get cookies though
[19:49] <oerheks> nom nom
[19:49] <people398594> nom
[19:50] <akem> FTP would have been easier? :)
[19:51] <oerheks> or irc://
[19:54] <people398594> only uucp over carrier pigeon will suffice
[20:08] <loru> Hello, what's the IRC channel for focal fossa?
[20:09] <loru> It's #ubuntu+1
[20:09] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1
[20:09] <loru> Thank you :D
[20:09] <EriC^^> yw :D
[20:10] <Intelo> How to check whats running on port 80. Nmap says its closed?
[20:10] <nacc> Intelo: `sudo netstat -pan`
[20:11] <Intelo> nacc,  no netstat package
[20:11] <EriC^^> Intelo: or lsof -i:80
[20:11] <Intelo> EriC^^, nothing
[20:12] <EriC^^> Intelo: sorry try with sudo
[20:12] <tripelb> Where is my power adaptor? HP ProBook. I
[20:12] <Intelo> EriC^^, nothing
[20:12] <tripelb> (heh)
[20:13] <oerheks> Inso your ruby app is not porking properly..
[20:13] <oerheks> Intelo ^
[20:14] <EriC^^> Intelo: maybe something isnt running on port 80?
[20:15] <oerheks> he could have told us the same details as in ##linux
[20:15] <oerheks> but noooooooooooo....
[20:16] <oerheks> now he asks in an other channel
[20:18] <lenio> my internet is too slow
[20:18] <lenio> only at ubuntu
[20:18] <lenio> when i use linux mint its ok
[20:18] <EriC^^> hehe o
[20:18] <EriC^^> oerheks:
[20:19] <kostkon> lenio, wifi?
[20:19] <lenio> yeah
[20:20] <jeremy31> lenio: Do you have Mint and Ubuntu installed?
[20:20] <shinobi_> I use samba to run a network file share for windows clients.  I want something similar for linux clients. Would that be NFS?
[20:20] <lenio> yes
[20:20] <lenio> and zorin and elementary
[20:20] <lenio> and MX Linux
[20:21] <oerheks> comparing speed, at different times?
[20:21] <lenio> and Manjaro
[20:21] <lenio> yes
[20:21] <lenio> different
[20:22] <oerheks> show us download stats please
[20:22] <lenio> 1 min please
[20:23] <oerheks> and make sure you are the only client on the wifi?
[20:24] <akem> shinobi_, Samba also works for Linux.
[20:24] <lordcirth_> Yeah, but it's annoying if you want to do anything with permissions or users
[20:25] <akem> Yes.
[20:26] <akem> But i don't know how NFS compares to Samba. I know streaming and sharing works fine with Samba and cooperates well between Windows/Linux/Android...so i kept using it.
[20:27] <lordcirth_> Samba should work fine for basic stuff, if you already have it setup
[20:28] <nshire> my 18.04 lts install keeps getting stuck on "loading initial ramdisk" right after grub and then it freezes. it happens on all the boot options.
[20:28] <nshire> any advice?
[20:29] <shinobi_> akem: How does linux share files if there were no windows users?
[20:29] <lordcirth_> shinobi_, usually people use NFS.
[20:30] <akem> shinobi_, You just add new users with a command.
[20:30] <ioria> nshire, Recovery
[20:30] <nshire> ioria, recovery options also get stuck at loading ramdisk
[20:30] <ioria> shinobi_,  then use livecd
[20:31] <nshire> was that meant for me
[20:31] <ioria> nshire, yes, sy
[20:31] <nshire> would I just do a reinstall after copying out my /home folder or is there a better way?
[20:31] <akem> shinobi_, Yeah try NFS, and if it doesn't satisfy you then you can still go the Samba way.
[20:32] <ioria> nshire, what ?
[20:32] <nshire> is there an actual recovery option on the liveusb or does it just blidnly reinstall everything
[20:33] <ioria> nshire, boot the livecd, mount the partition, chroot and inspect the problem
[20:34] <akem> There is a boot recovery tool, but i'm not sure it would help in your case.
[20:35] <akem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:36] <tomreyn> nshire: what's the hardware, did this system boot fine with the same major.minor kernel version previously?
[20:37] <nshire> 2016 XPS 13 9350, last on kernel 4.18 I believe. and yeah everything was running fine
[20:37] <tomreyn> nshire: and if it worked fine before, then what may have changed between when it did and now? did you also try booting into an older kernel version?
[20:37] <ioria> 4.18
[20:38] <nshire> last thing I did was a gnome reset and package upgrade
[20:39] <tomreyn> there's no supported kernel 4.18 on ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[20:39] <ioria> it's cosmic, hwe 18.04.2
[20:39] <nshire> what it actually was
[20:40] <nshire> sorry 4.15
[20:40] <ioria> feb 2019
[20:41] <nshire> current options are 4.15.0-91-generic and 4.15.0-88-generic
[20:41] <tomreyn> and neither of them boots past "loading initial ram disk" now?
[20:42] <nshire> correct
[20:43] <nshire> (thats only displayed when I take "quiet" out of the boot options. otherwise its just a blank purple screen)
[20:43] <tomreyn> you probably need to use mitigations=no then as a temporary workaround, and upgrade you bios
[20:43] <nshire> just did a bios upgrade 4 hours ago while trying to toubleshoot
[20:44] <nshire> did that through windows and it worked fine
[20:44] <ioria> nshire, if you can't access your system with another kernel or recovery, you can only boot the livecd
[20:44] <nshire> I do have a windows partition thats working fine but thats probably not helpful
[20:45] <nshire> yah I put my liveusb in, not sure what to do with it exactly
[20:45] <ioria> nshire,i told your (if you read it) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[20:45] <tomreyn> actually it's mitigations=off
[20:47] <ash_guest> my usb drive won't show up anymore
[20:47] <ash_guest> That's really upsetting
[20:47] <nshire> so that boot-repair tool: I need to burn that separately from a normal liveusb installer?
[20:48] <ash_guest> I tried it on another laptop running the same OS too
[20:48] <oerheks> ash_guest,  usb devices die over time, does it show up in lsusb?
[20:49] <ash_guest> oerheks I don't think so. Not all the line items are very specific
[20:49] <ash_guest> for example: Realtek Semiconductor Corp
[20:49] <akem_> nshire, No you can start it from the live CD, or you may need to apt install it directly from the live CD, but i doubt it would help, it's for fixing grub usually, and you are past this point.
[20:49] <oerheks> one could try a fsck .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[20:49] <ash_guest> but the output doesn't change if I unplug it, so my guess is "no"
[20:50] <ash_guest> oerheks how long do they normally last
[20:50] <ash_guest> ?
[20:51] <tomreyn> i am convinced the only problem nshire is dealing with is an intel microcode update, making both installed kernel images (of which certainly one must have booted fine previously) stop working during the "loading initial ramdisk" phase now
[20:51] <ash_guest> I really hope it's not completely dead
[20:51] <oerheks> i have one 2gb, now useless for the larger isos, it works since 2009 ..
[20:51] <oerheks> others died in 3 years
[20:52] <ash_guest> this is a sandisc; fairly new afair; usb 3.0
[20:52] <ash_guest> in any event; is there a way to recover data from it?
[20:52] <ash_guest> or at least validate that it is in fact dead
[20:53] <ash_guest> despite the descrete notion that it is given it was working like 2 days ago
[20:54]  * ash_guest crosses fingers
[20:55] <oerheks> see the wiki ?
[20:55] <EriC^^> ash_guest: what did the smart test give
[20:55] <ash_guest> oerheks @me? what wiki?
[20:55] <ash_guest> EriC^^ smart test?
[20:55] <nshire> tomreyn, I did notice that the apt update last night mentioned something about downloading new firmware
[20:56] <EriC^^> ash_guest: yeah, the smart test is a test to see if an hdd is dead due to bad sectors etc
[20:56] <ash_guest> is that a out of the box utility for ubuntu?
[20:57] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install smartmontools, then sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX   <-replace your hdd instead of sdX
[20:57] <ash_guest> an*'
[20:57] <EriC^^> it's in the universe repo
[20:57] <ash_guest> I see
[20:58] <tomreyn> nshire: well did you try mitigations=off, yet?
[20:58] <nshire> yeah that left me with a purle screen and no text output at all
[20:58] <ash_guest> wants me to configure mail services. I guess it monitors email as well?
[20:59] <ash_guest> How should I know what sd* is associated with the USB drive?
[20:59] <ash_guest> EriC^^ ^
[20:59] <tomreyn> nshire: and if you combine it with removing "quiet" and "splash"?
[21:00] <nshire> I only removed quiet... ill do both now
[21:00] <EriC^^> ash_guest: try 'sudo parted -ls' it should show the drives and name /dev/sdX
[21:00] <tomreyn> nshire: does it get past "loading initial ramdisk" then? if not, then it's actually more likely that you broke your initrds somehow.
[21:01] <tomreyn> !bootlog | nshire
[21:01] <EriC^^> ash_guest: yeah i think it also installs a daemon and whatnot
[21:01] <tomreyn> nshire: what ubottu just told you only applies after the initrd (initial ramdisk) loaded, though
[21:02] <nshire> ill add that debug line before I try
[21:02] <nshire> should "debug systemd.log_level=info" be on the linux line or its own line?
[21:02] <tomreyn> on the "linux" line
[21:03] <Intelo> What seem to be wrong here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QbHnKnX2fv/
[21:03] <ash_guest> EriC^^ there are 2 basic, 1 EFI, 1 Windows and 1 blank partition
[21:03] <ash_guest> the blank one is ext4
[21:04] <nshire> tomreyn, yeah stuck on loading initial ramdisk still
[21:04] <ash_guest> a flag on one of the basics says msftdata; so I guess that's part of the windows dual boot
[21:04] <ash_guest> the flags on the other basic are hidden,drag
[21:04] <ash_guest> diag*
[21:05] <EriC^^> ash_guest: how many hdds do you have?
[21:05] <EriC^^> you just need the disk name not the partitions
[21:06] <ash_guest> the listings do not change when I remove the USB flash drive
[21:06] <tomreyn> nshire: you need to boot off a different but compatible system (such as a live/installer usb), run fsck and smartctl -x against everything and chroot into the installed system and have it rebuild the initrd
[21:06] <EriC^^> ash_guest: hmm, try typing "dmesg -w" in a terminal, and plug in the usb
[21:06] <ash_guest> um... 1 hybrid drive iirc
[21:06] <ash_guest> wait, type that first, or after plugging in?
[21:07] <EriC^^> ash_guest: it's a usb in question or usb hdd?
[21:07] <EriC^^> ash_guest: first
[21:07] <ash_guest> EriC^^ my _guess_ is that my very import backup usb flash drive is dead
[21:07] <ash_guest> which is what I am attempting to discover
[21:07] <EriC^^> i see
[21:08] <ash_guest> and further discover is any data on it is recoverable
[21:08] <ash_guest> as far as dmesg -w
[21:08] <EriC^^> try a different port
[21:09] <ash_guest> before plugging in, I already get several messages that say "usb 2-1: device not accepting address [n], error -71"
[21:09] <ash_guest> do you still want me to try plugging it into the same port or a different port with dmesg?
[21:10] <jeremy31> ash_guest: have many USB devices plugged in?
[21:10] <ash_guest> EriC^^ too late; i tried the same port
[21:10] <EriC^^> ash_guest: i mean, it's worth a try i guess
[21:11] <ash_guest> looks like dmesg shows it detecting it
[21:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:11] <ash_guest> last message was: [747649.426596] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[21:11] <EriC^^> nice, so it's sdb
[21:11] <EriC^^> ok, great
[21:11] <ash_guest> also, it was hot when I pulled it out last before any dmesg operation
[21:11] <EriC^^> type "sudo parted /dev/sdb print"
[21:11] <ash_guest> eventually I'm getting those -71 messages again
[21:11] <ash_guest> ^C'ed: trying your command
[21:12] <ash_guest> could not stat
[21:13] <ash_guest> after the cache: disabled message:
[21:13] <ash_guest> [747685.583572] usb 2-1: Disable of device-initiated U1 failed.
[21:13] <ash_guest> then U2, then: [747696.080537] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Timeout while waiting for setup device command
[21:13] <ash_guest> I guess I'll remove it again
[21:14] <ash_guest> the tip is hot
[21:14] <ash_guest> final dmesg output after plugging in and waiting was: [747707.009637] usb usb2-port1: unable to enumerate USB device
[21:16] <EriC^^> hmm, no idea
[21:16] <marcodiego> the screen of my laptop flickers. Mostly some time after boot. Looks like backlight suddenly turns off and on quickly for seconds
[21:16] <EriC^^> did you try it on another pc ash_guest ?
[21:16] <stevelanday> EriC^^, Scan is complete, here is what it looks like  https://imgur.com/i9EyXH6
[21:16] <marcodiego> seems to stop if activity is low
[21:16] <ash_guest> EriC^^ yes
[21:17] <ash_guest> "Device not responding to setup address." is a common message in dmesg
[21:17] <EriC^^> stevelanday: awesome, can you pastebin 'sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print' to compare?
[21:17] <stevelanday> EriC^^, also this is the top of the list: https://imgur.com/PhJzW23
[21:18] <EriC^^> stevelanday: aha
[21:18] <stevelanday> EriC^^, I'll wait until you see my second photo before pasting...
[21:18] <EriC^^> saw it
[21:18] <stevelanday> EriC^^, ok here goes, standby
[21:19] <EriC^^> there's basically 2 partitions, one mac hfs one, but the size in sectors isnt that large
[21:19] <EriC^^> the first one seems promising though, big size
[21:20] <stevelanday> EriC^^, to confirm, i'm to paste and enter this: sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print'
[21:21] <EriC^^> stevelanday: yeah, or run 'sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999' itll upload it for you and give a link back
[21:22] <stevelanday> EriC^^, since i'm still in that testdisk app in terminal, should i open a new terminal and enter it there?
[21:23] <EriC^^> stevelanday: yeah sounds good
[21:23] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/tgpa
[21:24] <ash_guest> EriC^^ so, what do you think; is the drive itself damaged?
[21:25] <EriC^^> ash_guest: it seems so, i'm not entirely sure though, i'd try on another pc if you havent who knows
[21:25] <marcodiego> the screen of my laptop flickers. Mostly some time after boot. Looks like backlight suddenly turns off and on quickly for seconds. How can I disable the OS messing with the screen light and leave it always on?
[21:25] <ash_guest> EriC^^ i tried another one
[21:25] <stevelanday> EriC^^, FYI, from my testdisk window, after I entered Continue, it gave more info:  https://imgur.com/TWyG9i4
[21:25] <ash_guest> actually, this *is* the other one
[21:26] <EriC^^> stevelanday: thanks
[21:26] <jlna> ubuntu 19.10 headphone microphone is not selectable as input, does not show up in alsamixer either. the builtin microphone is selectable however
[21:26] <jlna> acpi_listen shows that the system detects the insertion of both the microphone plug and the headphone plug
[21:27] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok, let's try mounting a bunch of these filesystems, see which is which and stuff
[21:27] <stevelanday> EriC^^, ok
[21:29] <EriC^^> stevelanday: first install hfsutils to read the mac fs, sudo apt-get install hfsutils
[21:29] <stevelanday> EriC^^, oh NO!  I selected the first MAC HFS and hit enter, which didnt really show anything useful, QUIT was the only option, so I selected that and i'm not back at the ANALYSE ADVANCED, GEOMETRY, etc dialog
[21:29] <stevelanday> NOW not NOT
[21:30] <EriC^^> stevelanday: no worries, we have the sectors in the screenshots + the logs i beleive
[21:30] <stevelanday> EriC^^, finished the sudo apt-get install hfsutils
[21:30] <EriC^^> *believe
[21:31] <EriC^^> ok cool
[21:31] <stevelanday> EriC^^, currently at a prompt
[21:31] <stevelanday> EriC^^, not the root prompt though
[21:31] <EriC^^> stevelanday: let's try the big one first, sudo mount -o offset=$((842272064 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[21:32] <stevelanday> EriC^^, response was: steve@steve-Macmini:~$ sudo mount -o offset=$((842272064 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[21:32] <stevelanday> mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop13, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[21:33] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok trying the next one, sudo mount -o offset=$((842418272 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[21:33] <stevelanday> EriC^^, similar response
[21:34] <EriC^^> ok how about sudo mount -o offset=$((947213536 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[21:34] <stevelanday> EriC^^, FYI those were both LOOP 13, in case thats important.
[21:34] <EriC^^> nope not really
[21:35] <EriC^^> any luck?
[21:35] <stevelanday> EriC^^, same response
[21:36] <stevelanday> EriC^^, I see, we are sending the same question to each of the results, shall i keep going
[21:41] <EriC^^> stevelanday: yeah, it's very much trial and error at this point
[21:41] <EriC^^> did you try the last one?
[21:42] <EriC^^> sector 947...
[21:42] <EriC^^> stevelanday: try sudo mount -t hfsplus -o offset=$((842272064 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[21:43] <EriC^^> maybe specifying the filesystem will help
[21:48] <marcodiego> how do I set the backlight of my laptop to be always on max?
[21:50] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ?
[21:53] <longstride> Hey guys, looking for some insight.  I have a few games I play in Ubuntu and the experience is flawless in 18.04.  I play Minecraft with BSL shaders, and Factorio through Steam.  In 20.04 I have some issues, basically some minor screen tearing and the camera pan in Minecraft just isn't as buttery smooth as in 18.04.
[21:55] <longstride> Now is this something that just goes away once 20.04 is officially released?  If it works in an older version, it should technically work in the newer version as well, right?
[21:55] <EriC^^> longstride: the guys in #ubuntu+1 might know more fwiw
[21:56] <longstride> EriC^^, thanks, I wasn't quite sure where I should post this.  Just wanted some opinions.  I'll post there as well
[21:57] <knstn> ubuntu desktop 18.04: to have it start in console mode (no GUI), "systemctl set-default multi-user.target" is enough, or i also have to add "text" to /etc/default/grub ?
[22:00] <memphisto> knstn: systemctl command will suffice
[22:04] <puff> Good afternoon, my new thinkpad t580 has a PrtSc button in between the right hand alt and ctrl buttons. It's annoying as hell, in addition to the new thinkpad keyboard.  Is there a way to disable it?
[22:05] <puff> Hm, maybe this https://askubuntu.com/questions/976748/how-to-change-prtsc-key-to-right-click-in-ubuntu-17-10
[22:07] <memphisto> puff: first find whats the code of that key:run in terminal xev -event keyboard
[22:09] <puff> KeymapNotify event, serial 26, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys:  4294967234 0   0   0   16  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[22:10] <memphisto> try not to disable the wrong key
[22:10] <memphisto> test again
[22:10] <puff> I did it a few times, same result.
[22:10] <puff> I'm not sure which bit from that output is the important prat.
[22:10] <memphisto> xmodmap -e 'keycode 26='
[22:10] <memphisto> that will disable it
[22:11] <puff> Yeah... but that link I pasted above says xmodmap is deprecated.
[22:12] <memphisto> you look for keycode, so no serial 26
[22:12] <puff> ?
[22:14] <memphisto> can you use xmodmap
[22:14] <memphisto> if not, we could see with what is replaced
[22:14] <puff> Crap, that disabld th lttr that coms aftr d.
[22:14] <akem_> :P
[22:14] <akem_> Shit happens.
[22:15] <puff> Givn that I can't typ that lttr, how do I undo th modmap command?
[22:15] <kostkon> nice :P
[22:16] <memphisto> logout and logback in
[22:16] <puff> Fixed it iwth setxkbmap -layout us
[22:16] <memphisto> so you have xmodmap
[22:16] <memphisto> great, now you know how to use it
[22:17] <memphisto> run xev -event keyboard and check for the keycode part
[22:17] <memphisto> and i'll check with what is xmodmap replaced
[22:17] <memphisto> setxkbmap
[22:17] <puff> Yeah
[22:25] <memphisto> i don't get setxkbmap, but we could do it with xmodmap if you want
[22:26] <memphisto> i think we have to use xmodmap for your case
[22:38] <stevelanday> EriC^^,  Sorry , i got an important phone call and got lost in that.  ok, where was i
[22:38] <stevelanday> EriC^^, , yes, sector 947 was a bust,
[22:40] <stevelanday> EriC^^, , response is: steve@steve-Macmini:~$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o offset=$((842272064 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[22:40] <stevelanday> mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop13, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[22:44] <EriC^^> stevelanday: wb, ok try 'sudo mount -o offset=$((352866220 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt
[22:44] <EriC^^> stevelanday: wb, ok try 'sudo mount -o offset=$((352866220 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt'
[22:44] <EriC^^> stevelanday: wb, ok try 'sudo mount -t hfsplus -o offset=$((352866220 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt'
[22:44] <EriC^^> stevelanday: sorry just run the last command
[22:46] <stevelanday> EriC^^, 10/4
[22:46] <EriC^^> :D
[22:46] <stevelanday> EriC^^, Same response: mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop13, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[22:46] <stevelanday> steve@steve-Macmini:~$
[22:48] <stevelanday> EriC^^, So, what if I said that I'm mostly interestted in recovering the MAC OSX files, and that I dont NEED to have regain the boot ability
[22:50] <EriC^^> stevelanday: we'd use photorec eventually
[22:50] <EriC^^> maybe try a few more sectors just incase we get lucky
[22:51] <EriC^^> stevelanday: wb, ok try 'sudo mount -t hfsplus -o offset=$((352866411 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt'
[22:51] <EriC^^> i put in the new sector
[22:51] <stevelanday> EriC^^, response is: mount: /mn: mount point does not exist.
[22:52] <EriC^^> i think you missed the 't' at the end
[22:52] <stevelanday> EriC^^, , ok, let me try again
[22:53] <stevelanday> EriC^^, response: mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop13, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[22:54] <EriC^^> ok one last try before using photorec, type 'sudo testdisk' same as before
[22:55] <stevelanday> EriC^^, yep, choices are CREATE, APPEND, NO LOG
[22:55] <EriC^^> same thing, analyze -> quick search press enter to skip it, then enter again to get the deep search, then let it just run for about 20secs til it shows the mac hfs ones etc, it should just take amin or so
[22:55] <EriC^^> stevelanday: nolog
[22:55] <EriC^^> then press enter to let it finish the deep search, then you should end up with something like this you had earlier https://imgur.com/TWyG9i4
[22:55] <stevelanday> EriC^^, no log, understood, response is: Select a media (use Arrow keys, then press Enter):
[22:55] <stevelanday> >Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362
[22:55] <stevelanday>  Disk /dev/sdb - 1000 GB / 931 GiB - WD Elements 10B8
[22:55] <stevelanday>  Disk /dev/sdd - 1000 GB / 931 GiB - Mass Storage Device
[22:56] <EriC^^> stevelanday: choose sda
[22:56] <stevelanday> EriC^^, , response is: Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362
[22:56] <stevelanday> Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done.
[22:56] <stevelanday>  [Intel  ] Intel/PC partition
[22:56] <stevelanday> >[EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...)
[22:56] <stevelanday>  [Humax  ] Humax partition table
[22:56] <stevelanday>  [Mac    ] Apple partition map
[22:57] <neteffect> hmm i'm trying to copy a large file, 3.4G, to my usb stick and it's very slow (says 8 hours).  What is wrong
[22:57] <NGravity> Dev sd
[22:58] <stevelanday> EriC^^, I pasted my choices and think i got kicked off the channel
[22:58] <Eickmeyer> !paste | stevelanday
[22:59] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/b0iJoyd
[22:59] <stevelanday> Eickmeyer, thank you
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> stevelanday: It's just a good rule of thumb because you can (and did) get auto-kicked from a channel.
[23:00] <stevelanday> Eickmeyer, I'm learning :)
[23:01] <stevelanday> Eickmeyer, So forgive me, but, since i'm able to communicate with you, am i still on the channel and commincating with EriC too?
[23:02] <EriC^^> stevelanday: no worries, choose efi gpt
[23:02] <stevelanday> EriC^^, ok thanks
[23:02] <Eickmeyer> stevelanday: We're two different people. :)
[23:03] <stevelanday> Eickmeyer, yes i know, thanks, all good now.  appreciate your guidance. :)
[23:04] <glestrade> hi all, I’m trying to work with some old source code that has some very specific requirements
[23:05] <glestrade> as such, I need to load an old version of the kernel on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[23:05] <glestrade> but GRUB doesn’t come up at all
[23:05] <glestrade> yes I held shift, disabled timeout (or whatever that advice was that I saw)
[23:05] <glestrade> I’ll find the link
[23:06] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok, then go to analyze
[23:08] <pavlos> glestrade: change GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden to GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu in /etc/default/grub, then sudo update-grub, then reboot
[23:08] <stevelanday> EriC^^, I think I got lost. Sorry. Right not its doing a /dev/sda - 500gb cylinder scan, so far its found three results, MS data, Linux Swap, and Linux swap. and is still scanning
[23:09] <glestrade> pavlos: I’ll try that. This was the link btw
[23:09] <glestrade> https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[23:10] <glestrade> I have this chat open on my Macbook. So I’ll be able to keep you appraised of what’s going on as the linux box reboots, etc
[23:10] <EriC^^> stevelanday: did you click on quick search
[23:11] <stevelanday> EriC^^, urghhhhhh, sorry, i dont remember.  maybe i selected analyise or ???  can we start over
[23:12] <stevelanday> EriC^^, STOP is currently my only other option
[23:12] <EriC^^> stevelanday: no worries, press enter it should stop what its doing
[23:12] <EriC^^> see if it says deep search at the bottom
[23:13] <stevelanday> EriC^^, here is where I am at after selecting STOP:  https://imgur.com/tU9zsSj
[23:14] <glestrade> pavlos: err my grub doesn’t have GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE
[23:17] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok press enter
[23:17] <oerheks> in 14.04, grub was at v2.02, incompatible?
[23:19] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/fdoFZzC
[23:19] <oerheks> glestrade, if you want to test 14.04 kernels, put it in a VM/KVM
[23:20] <EriC^^> stevelanday: also enter
[23:20] <EriC^^> it shoudl say quick search, do it, then press enter to stop the quick search, then enter , you should see deep search
[23:21] <stevelanday> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/rTrKExh
[23:22] <EriC^^> something isnt right, try pressing q til you reach the analyze menu stevelanday
[23:22] <stevelanday> EriC^^, i'm there
[23:23] <glestrade> oerheks: the broader context is that the particular software I’m working with probably doesn’t work when you run it on any kind of VM
[23:23] <glestrade> it needs a special wifi card, special driver software for that card, etc
[23:23] <mfoolb> hello.. could anyone point me to where I can check lasted updates applied on ubuntu 18.04 box?
[23:24] <glestrade> direct access to that interface, not virtualized
[23:24] <glestrade> if you take my meaning
[23:24] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ok press analyze
[23:25] <EriC^^> then quick search
[23:25] <stevelanday> EriC^^, two options, 1 EFI system, 2 linux swap
[23:25] <EriC^^> stevelanday: basically keep pressing enter til it says deep search at the bottom
[23:27] <stevelanday> EriC^^, crap, only option was quick search, i hit enter and now has EFI highlighted, shall i continue hitting enter with EFI highlighted?
[23:27] <EriC^^> yes
[23:27] <stevelanday> EriC^^, ok done
[23:28] <stevelanday> EriC^^, its working
[23:29] <pavlos> glestrade: you can add that option
[23:31] <glestrade> pavlos: so if I do that, it should come up by itself?
[23:31] <EriC^^> stevelanday: did you press quick search or deep search?
[23:32] <pavlos> glestrade: it forces to pop up a menu ... hidden sits silent till timeout
[23:35] <stevelanday> EriC^^, Yes, i chose whichever search i was offered, its currently analising the cylinder and has several things listed: https://imgur.com/4V5sl0i  fwiw, i would be just fine with recovering my ability to access my old MACOSX files and not regaining the ability to boot OSX. in other words, if I could just get back into the osx drive and grab out of there what I need, and so on.  if this helps.
[23:35] <faLUCE> hello. Why I can't run scripts with double clicking on 18.04 ? This is weird. It opens them with a text editor
[23:36] <faLUCE> and I can't change this behavior
[23:36] <EriC^^> stevelanday: yeah i get what you mean, the thing is using testdisk you can still see the structure and names and stuff, with photorec you'll get a bunch of random names in one dir
[23:36] <kostkon> faLUCE, try making them executable first
[23:37] <stevelanday> EriC^^, I have another macbook that works and can use to connect to the macmini once i'm able to access that old macosx stuff.  but your the expert in this stuff, so I'll follow your advice and guidance, which is MUCH appreciated. :)
[23:38] <faLUCE> kostkon: already done
[23:38] <faLUCE> and I added the shebang too
[23:38] <EriC^^> stevelanday: ah nice, sure no rpoblem
[23:38] <EriC^^> *problem
[23:39] <stevelanday> EriC^^, However, if there is a chance that I can restore the mac os x drive back to being able to boot OSX, that of course would be preferable. :)
[23:39] <EriC^^> stevelanday: as soon as the mac hfs stuff and ms data ones start showing up, press enter to stop the deep search, but be sure not to continue past this screen https://imgur.com/TWyG9i4
[23:40] <EriC^^> stevelanday: once you get there, you're going to want to highlight the mac hfs partition and other potential partitions, and press "P" to list the files if it can
[23:40] <kostkon> faLUCE, you could try this https://askubuntu.com/a/1051275/1651
[23:41] <faLUCE> kostkon: there's not a "preferences" voice in nautilus
[23:41] <faLUCE> this is weird
[23:41] <stevelanday> EriC^^, i copy that
[23:42] <stevelanday> EriC^^, sorry, trying to be cool, i understand
[23:42] <kostkon> faLUCE, hmm
[23:43] <EriC^^> stevelanday: if you're able to list those files and those are the ones you want, then you have 2 options, either to copy the dir or files by pressing "C" or you could add the partition they're on back to the table by using right arrow to make a "P" next to it instead of "D", and write the new table
[23:43] <EriC^^> stevelanday: hehe :)
[23:44] <EriC^^> stevelanday: i gtg to bed, i hope you're able to get the files back easily, good luck and if you need help tomorrow ill probably be on as well, see you
[23:45] <stevelanday> EriC^^, Oh boy, your a head of me technically here. Thank you for all the time and attention youve shown me.  I'll let this scan complete and return tomorrow.
[23:49] <smacktalk> my integrated camera isn't working
[23:49] <smacktalk> I'm trying to video conference and can't with my ubuntu laptop
[23:50] <BrokenLinuxes> Hi all, have a question about moving files over to a mounted nfs share, and carrying existing permissions over with the files.  Anyone have any experience with that?
[23:51] <pavlos> smacktalk: does lsusb show the webcamera?
[23:51] <smacktalk> lsb_release -a
[23:51] <smacktalk> ooops
[23:51] <smacktalk> didn't mean to paste that
[23:51] <smacktalk> not there anyway
[23:51] <pavlos> smacktalk: lsusb will list all usb devices on your laptop
[23:52] <smacktalk> it's an integrated camera, not usb
[23:52] <smacktalk> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
[23:53] <smacktalk> is there another command?
[23:53] <pavlos> smacktalk: probably connected to the usb subsystem, just type lsusb and see if there is a camera
[23:53] <kostkon> smacktalk, lsusb is the right one
[23:53] <smacktalk> nope
[23:54] <smacktalk> no camera
[23:54] <pavlos> smacktalk: laptop model?
[23:54] <smacktalk> missing a driver
[23:54] <smacktalk> msi
[23:54] <kostkon> smacktalk, would you mind pastebin-ing your output for us to see j-i-c
[23:54] <pavlos> some more info so I can look up the specs
[23:55] <pavlos> smacktalk: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999     aand give us the url