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jammorning all04:45
Chipaca1 2 3 tasting08:52
Chipacajam, niemeyer, do you read me?08:57
niemeyerMoin!09:06
jammorning Chipaca09:08
ChipacaWoo, it works! Good morning09:11
jamback in a bit, working on math homework :)09:14
ChipacaI was running low on things, went to one supermarket yesterday after dinner and there was a bunch of stuff I couldn't get. So I had an early breakfast and came to a different supermarket only to find it was only open for OAPs until 9... Hence irccloud09:26
ChipacaOn the upside I got everything but tea, now09:27
=== __chip__ is now known as Chipaca
Chipacafacubatista: thank you for letting me know. "checkpoint" is just a note to myself, "this is how far I got"09:56
Chipacaglad you were able to get deeper into it with gustavo y'day09:57
Chipacahmm, how can we avoid pydoc showing the license as the module's description?10:51
jamIf there are 3 spheres of radius 1, inside a cylinder of height 2 with radius just enough to hold the spheres, what is the fraction of volume of the cylinder occupied by the spheres.10:55
jambeen a long time since I did that kind of math.10:55
jamwas kind of fun10:55
Chipacafacubatista, jam, niemeyer, WDYT? https://github.com/chipaca/operator/blob/docs-take-2/README.md11:11
facubatistaMuy buenos días a todos!11:12
niemeyerHey hey11:12
Chipacafacubatista: gooooooooooood  morning!11:12
facubatistaaló aló11:12
facubatistajam, volume of the cylinder minus 2 * volume of the sphere11:13
Chipacafacubatista, jam, niemeyer, to be clear i'm asking if you like the README, the TBD links are still TBD :)11:13
facubatista(as you had two spheres)11:13
facubatistaChipaca, will read11:14
niemeyerChipaca: I like how it starts, but there's something missing before "testing your charms"11:14
Chipacaniemeyer: "breaking your charms"11:14
* Chipaca hides11:14
niemeyerChipaca: The part of the current document that explains the overall strategy for writing the charm seems important11:14
Chipacaniemeyer: I can put the minimal requirements for writing a charm there, then11:15
Chipacathe current "recommendation" for the layout is not nice, and I'd like us to stop recommending it, or at least to not make it so front-and-centre11:16
niemeyerChipaca: Yeah, it seems important to provide some kind of "north" to people that open an editor and need to do something11:16
Chipacasounds good11:16
ChipacaI had that, but then it got too long winded and so i nuked it. I should've instead pared it down... :)11:17
Chipacaalso, note i mention rpdb but that's just because i wanted to see how it tasted, having a "require this, and optionally this other thing to get this extra bit"11:18
Chipacaand it seems to be fine11:19
facubatistaChipaca, even before; I think it's valuable to mention at least once that this is about charms in the intro before getting started11:19
ChipacaI'll try :)11:19
facubatistaI don't want people reading "The Operator Framework provides a simple, lightweight, and powerful way of encapsulating operational experience in code" and thinking "nice, k8s"11:19
Chipacawhat is k3s, btw?11:20
facubatista"nice, ansible"11:20
facubatistaetc11:20
Chipacaso I should mention juju and charms in that same sentence, then11:20
ChipacaI think we still had a tiny bit of space before the mobile rendering got pushed off screen, so it should work11:21
facubatista"The Operator Framework provides a simple, lightweight, and powerful way of building charms, the best way to encapsulate operational experience in code."11:21
Chipacafacubatista: *juju* charms?11:25
facubatistaChipaca, or maybe the charm word itself is a link to somewhere which includes what is a charm11:27
Chipacagoogling "what is a juju charm" is not a nice look11:27
facubatistaChipaca, shall we provide a PR on that readme? how we can add comments?11:28
Chipacafacubatista: I'll push a PR shortly11:28
Chipacai linked to the WIP one to see if I was completely MFT11:28
niemeyerk3s is a self-contained k8s..  Think microk8s, but a different implementation of it11:28
Chipacalooks like somebody took a planer to the 811:29
facubatistaChipaca, "MFT"?11:33
Chipacaer11:33
Chipacafacubatista: urinating outside of the appropriate receptacle11:33
Chipacaprobably a grulic-ism11:33
facubatistais understable also in the rest of .ar, I guess11:34
Chipaca:)11:36
jamChipaca, k3s is a minimialist install/installer of kubernetes. https://k3s.io/11:37
jamMissing the F'n Target11:38
facubatistaChipaca, use capital P in Python unless you're really meaning the command; we'll not use rpdb; "dive into the tutorial" I thought it was telling me to go off and read more about juju and charms, but it looks it's an operator itself tutorial?;11:40
Chipacaok wrt python11:41
facubatistaChipaca, "pydoc3 ops.testing has the details for that" you're telling me to clone the project and run a command just to see more about testing harness? gross11:41
Chipacatutorial is our tutorial11:41
Chipacafacubatista: until we have something better, that is the best i can do11:41
Chipacai mean, yes, gross, but what else should i do?11:41
Chipacaextra gross because pydoc's description will be the copyright (eww)11:42
facubatistaack11:43
Chipacajam: heh, i like that backronim :)11:52
Chipacabackronym11:53
jamseems they are conducting "National Sanitization" over the weekend, and will be restricting grocery store access, etc. So I need to do grocery shopping before the weekend, and chances are good they will get overwhelmed if I'm late.11:58
jamMy wife just found out from her work, so we're heading out. I'll try to be back for standup.11:58
Chipacajam: good luck!11:59
Chipacafacubatista: https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/190 FWIW11:59
ChipacaI'm going for a run, and then a quick lunch11:59
facubatistaeverybody: this is refreshed now https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zKwzo26bNVFgohaRB_kdUCsFPY3OcjfcpQklGpkOHpc/12:38
Chipacafacubatista: ack13:23
facubatistaniemeyer, Chipaca, this is refreshed with all we talked about: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zKwzo26bNVFgohaRB_kdUCsFPY3OcjfcpQklGpkOHpc/15:49
facubatistanote that having one env var is nice and simple, it complicates a little the case for multiple hooks, there is one comment (the only one I left) for this15:49
* facubatista -> lunch16:16
* facubatista -> lunch, for real now16:37
* Chipaca intercepted facu before his lunch16:37
Chipacamea culpa, mea culpa, etc16:37
* facubatista is back17:47
* Chipaca celebrates17:50
=== Chipaca_ is now known as ChipaPhone
ChipacaI'm going to go ahead and EOD18:20
Chipacay'all be good18:20
* facubatista eods20:26

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