[04:45] morning all [08:52] 1 2 3 tasting [08:57] jam, niemeyer, do you read me? [09:06] Moin! [09:08] morning Chipaca [09:11] Woo, it works! Good morning [09:14] back in a bit, working on math homework :) [09:26] I was running low on things, went to one supermarket yesterday after dinner and there was a bunch of stuff I couldn't get. So I had an early breakfast and came to a different supermarket only to find it was only open for OAPs until 9... Hence irccloud [09:27] On the upside I got everything but tea, now === __chip__ is now known as Chipaca [09:56] facubatista: thank you for letting me know. "checkpoint" is just a note to myself, "this is how far I got" [09:57] glad you were able to get deeper into it with gustavo y'day [10:51] hmm, how can we avoid pydoc showing the license as the module's description? [10:55] If there are 3 spheres of radius 1, inside a cylinder of height 2 with radius just enough to hold the spheres, what is the fraction of volume of the cylinder occupied by the spheres. [10:55] been a long time since I did that kind of math. [10:55] was kind of fun [11:11] facubatista, jam, niemeyer, WDYT? https://github.com/chipaca/operator/blob/docs-take-2/README.md [11:12] Muy buenos días a todos! [11:12] Hey hey [11:12] facubatista: ｇｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｏｄｍｏｒｎｉｎｇ！ [11:12] aló aló [11:13] jam, volume of the cylinder minus 2 * volume of the sphere [11:13] facubatista, jam, niemeyer, to be clear i'm asking if you like the README, the TBD links are still TBD :) [11:13] (as you had two spheres) [11:14] Chipaca, will read [11:14] Chipaca: I like how it starts, but there's something missing before "testing your charms" [11:14] niemeyer: "breaking your charms" [11:14] * Chipaca hides [11:14] Chipaca: The part of the current document that explains the overall strategy for writing the charm seems important [11:15] niemeyer: I can put the minimal requirements for writing a charm there, then [11:16] the current "recommendation" for the layout is not nice, and I'd like us to stop recommending it, or at least to not make it so front-and-centre [11:16] Chipaca: Yeah, it seems important to provide some kind of "north" to people that open an editor and need to do something [11:16] sounds good [11:17] I had that, but then it got too long winded and so i nuked it. I should've instead pared it down... :) [11:18] also, note i mention rpdb but that's just because i wanted to see how it tasted, having a "require this, and optionally this other thing to get this extra bit" [11:19] and it seems to be fine [11:19] Chipaca, even before; I think it's valuable to mention at least once that this is about charms in the intro before getting started [11:19] I'll try :) [11:19] I don't want people reading "The Operator Framework provides a simple, lightweight, and powerful way of encapsulating operational experience in code" and thinking "nice, k8s" [11:20] what is k3s, btw? [11:20] "nice, ansible" [11:20] etc [11:20] so I should mention juju and charms in that same sentence, then [11:21] I think we still had a tiny bit of space before the mobile rendering got pushed off screen, so it should work [11:21] "The Operator Framework provides a simple, lightweight, and powerful way of building charms, the best way to encapsulate operational experience in code." [11:25] facubatista: *juju* charms? [11:27] Chipaca, or maybe the charm word itself is a link to somewhere which includes what is a charm [11:27] googling "what is a juju charm" is not a nice look [11:28] Chipaca, shall we provide a PR on that readme? how we can add comments? [11:28] facubatista: I'll push a PR shortly [11:28] i linked to the WIP one to see if I was completely MFT [11:28] k3s is a self-contained k8s.. Think microk8s, but a different implementation of it [11:29] looks like somebody took a planer to the 8 [11:33] Chipaca, "MFT"? [11:33] er [11:33] facubatista: urinating outside of the appropriate receptacle [11:33] probably a grulic-ism [11:34] is understable also in the rest of .ar, I guess [11:36] :) [11:37] Chipaca, k3s is a minimialist install/installer of kubernetes. https://k3s.io/ [11:38] Missing the F'n Target [11:40] Chipaca, use capital P in Python unless you're really meaning the command; we'll not use rpdb; "dive into the tutorial" I thought it was telling me to go off and read more about juju and charms, but it looks it's an operator itself tutorial?; [11:41] ok wrt python [11:41] Chipaca, "pydoc3 ops.testing has the details for that" you're telling me to clone the project and run a command just to see more about testing harness? gross [11:41] tutorial is our tutorial [11:41] facubatista: until we have something better, that is the best i can do [11:41] i mean, yes, gross, but what else should i do? [11:42] extra gross because pydoc's description will be the copyright (eww) [11:43] ack [11:52] jam: heh, i like that backronim :) [11:53] backronym [11:58] seems they are conducting "National Sanitization" over the weekend, and will be restricting grocery store access, etc. So I need to do grocery shopping before the weekend, and chances are good they will get overwhelmed if I'm late. [11:58] My wife just found out from her work, so we're heading out. I'll try to be back for standup. [11:59] jam: good luck! [11:59] facubatista: https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/190 FWIW [11:59] I'm going for a run, and then a quick lunch [12:38] everybody: this is refreshed now https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zKwzo26bNVFgohaRB_kdUCsFPY3OcjfcpQklGpkOHpc/ [13:23] facubatista: ack [15:49] niemeyer, Chipaca, this is refreshed with all we talked about: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zKwzo26bNVFgohaRB_kdUCsFPY3OcjfcpQklGpkOHpc/ [15:49] note that having one env var is nice and simple, it complicates a little the case for multiple hooks, there is one comment (the only one I left) for this [16:16] * facubatista -> lunch [16:37] * facubatista -> lunch, for real now [16:37] * Chipaca intercepted facu before his lunch [16:37] mea culpa, mea culpa, etc [17:47] * facubatista is back [17:50] * Chipaca celebrates === Chipaca_ is now known as ChipaPhone [18:20] I'm going to go ahead and EOD [18:20] y'all be good [20:26] * facubatista eods