[00:20] <pieq> Morning all
[00:20] <pieq> bluez and pulseaudio, my nemesis(es)
[00:21] <pieq> the issues I was having the other days are gone, but now BT devices don't connect anymore, and the "Test speakers" in g-c-c doesn't do anything even though the sound output works properly...
[06:01] <jibel> Morning everyone
[06:07] <pieq> salut jibel
[06:08] <jibel> Bonjour pieq , ça va?
[06:11] <duflu> Morning jibel
[06:12] <jibel> hi duflu
[06:23] <pieq> jibel, ça va! Fighting with bluez and pulseaudio issue on my daily laptop
[06:24] <pieq> but I don't have much time to spend on this at the moment
[06:27] <jibel> pieq, i've similar issue, the broken "Test speakers" thing is a recent regression
[06:28] <pieq> jibel, good to know!
[06:30] <jibel> pieq, actually I thought it was just me and my device which never worked very well
[06:30] <jibel> I'll file a bug
[06:31] <pieq> jibel, ok!
[07:00] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:04] <jibel> morning oSoMoN
[07:05] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:07] <jibel> oSoMoN, ça va?
[07:07] <oSoMoN> bien, et toi?
[07:08] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:08] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[07:09] <jibel> oSoMoN, tranquillement, confiné toutes les journées se ressemblent un peu
[07:09] <jibel> salut seb128
[07:09] <seb128> jibel, salut, comment ça va ?
[07:09] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ici tout va bien
[07:10] <oSoMoN> et toi?
[07:10] <jibel> seb128, plutôt bien, je manque un peu d'exercice et toi?
[07:10] <seb128> un peu pareil!
[07:11] <seb128> ils ont fermé le tennis club, j'ai fait qu'un footing de la semaine :-/
[07:11] <oSoMoN> perso je ne me suis jamais autant entraîné… enfin je ne cours pas, je n’ai pas besoin de beaucoup d’espace
[07:11] <jibel> ici pas de footing, 1km et 1h max / jour, ça ne fait pas bien loin
[07:13] <oSoMoN> sinon pour substituer le footing: le saut à la corde
[07:15] <seb128> aux info ils ont montré un gars qui a fait un marathon sur son balcon
[07:15] <seb128> 6000 aller-retours :)
[07:16] <jibel> j'ai compté que pour faire un 10km, il faut que je fasse 200 tours de jardin :)
[07:16] <seb128> ben voilà :-)
[07:42] <didrocks> good morning
[07:43] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:44] <didrocks> ça va oSoMoN ?
[07:48] <oSoMoN> didrocks, bien, et toi?
[07:53] <didrocks> oui oui :)
[07:57] <duflu> Morning seb128, oSoMoN, didrocks
[07:58] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:01] <duflu> Phew, my first visit to a supermarket since Frankfurt. Actually went well aside from a couple of missing items
[08:03] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:24] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[08:25] <duflu> seb128, hey going well. I think I've caught up the gnome-shell issues and will make progress on plymouth this evening
[08:25] <duflu> You?
[08:25] <seb128> duflu, I'm good!
[08:25] <seb128> duflu, sorry for the plymouth emails spam
[08:26] <duflu> seb128, no problem. You can assume I will get the bug updates anyway
[08:26] <seb128> at least I feel like we have things in a state where we can start working on the code now
[08:26] <duflu> Yes, without system tests though. But I will look at implementing the protocol spec first
[08:26] <seb128> duflu, k, noted for next time but since you were not assigned/subscribed to e.g the fsck one I was unsure
[08:27] <seb128> duflu, well, I've added steps on the fsck bug to test on the real system as well
[08:27] <seb128> but using the casper script and the plymouth command interface should make easier to iterate/test code changes than having to reboot
[08:30] <duflu> seb128, just a reminder, the growing number of windowing bugs in gnome-shell 3.36.0 need this to be updated in the next upload: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1070.patch
[08:33] <seb128> duflu, ack, Trevinho^
[08:33] <duflu> Oh... seb128 the new plymouth logo has broken ubuntu-logo a little
[08:33] <duflu> Missing some spacing on the left to balance it
[08:33] <seb128> ah :/
[08:33] <duflu> Also it is 49px high and gnome-shell squishes it to 48px
[08:33] <duflu> but that is fixed in 3.36.1
[08:34] <seb128> we can probably but one line out of that's better
[08:34] <seb128> if you send me an updated image I can squeeze it in the next plymouth upload
[08:34] <duflu> OK, to the gimp
[08:39] <duflu> Actually the new design is not possible to reduce to 48px. Nobody will notice and gnome-shell 3.36.1 fixes it anyway
[08:41] <seb128> k
[08:42] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:42] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va ?
[08:42] <duflu> seb128, fixed: bug 1869150
[08:43] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:43] <seb128> didrocks, thanks for the fsck hints, with the systemd service hacked to remove the initramfs check and the mock instead of /sbin/fsck I get the disk check messages displayed on boot now
[08:43] <seb128> didrocks, ça va bien :)
[08:44] <seb128> duflu, thanks
[08:45] <didrocks> seb128: phew, the mock is still working thus! :)
[08:45] <seb128> didrocks, yes, quality code :)
[08:47] <didrocks> heh :)
[09:04] <Laney> hullo
[09:05] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[09:08] <Laney> moin oSoMoN
[09:08] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:16] <oSoMoN> all good, you?
[09:19] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you
[09:19] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:22] <RikMills> is much ubiquity work planned land before the beta? I want to get LP: #
[09:23] <RikMills> LP: #1863073 fixed
[09:23] <jibel> RikMills, I can hav ea look
[09:23] <jibel> I've something else to land for oem
[09:23] <RikMills> but no point in advocating for a specific upload, if it can land with other work
[09:23] <RikMills> ok. great
[09:25] <RikMills> I would appreciate it then if the linked merge could go in when other things do :) thanks
[09:27] <Laney> moin seb128 didrocks
[09:27] <Laney> yeah doing ok, this 10 year prison sentence is boring though
[09:27] <Laney> you?
[09:28] <seb128> doing well, but yeah it's frustrating to be locked down, especially that summer arrived
[09:28] <seb128> would be perfect weather to play some tennis :-/
[09:28] <Laney> indeed
[09:33] <jamesh> Here they still seem to be saying individual outdoor exercise is okay
[09:34] <seb128> in France they say it's ok to go 1km away and alone
[09:39] <pieq> seb128, my sister lives 200 meters from a river, and the river has been locked down. She is not allowed to access it, even for just a small walk, or else she faces 135 EUR fines
[09:40] <pieq> France became worse than the worst authoritarian regime on Earth! :D
[09:50] <tkamppeter> seb128, My libmtp printer fix made it all the way through to Debian and upstream:
[09:50] <tkamppeter> https://github.com/libmtp/libmtp/issues/24
[09:50] <tkamppeter>  https://salsa.debian.org/debian/libmtp/-/commit/01797b1808e5e01115af10d30b557c14d85a8d1b
[09:50] <gitbot> libmtp issue 24 in libmtp "Printer HP LaserJet P1102 gets "mtp-probed" and this messes it up in CUPS" [Closed]
[09:51] <Laney> yeahhhhhh upstream!
[10:08] <seb128> tkamppeter, great
[10:09] <tkamppeter> seb128, but note that Debian did not upload yet. So if they do not do this by the end of the week please upload our package as you had originally planned.
[10:10] <seb128> tkamppeter, I've uploaded now, we can sync over once Debian does an upload
[10:10] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks for upstreaming to Debian
[10:10] <tkamppeter> seb128, great, thanks.
[10:10] <Laney> there was an upload to unstable commit 59 minutes ago
[10:11] <seb128> Laney, too late to undo the dput sorry
[10:11] <Laney> it's ok if someone remembers to come back and do the sync :-)
[10:12] <seb128> I will do, version has a nice section for things which are on the same version than Debian just a revision behind
[10:12] <seb128> I review that on regular basis
[10:12] <seb128> nice to see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages being a reasonable list :)
[10:16] <Laney> |o/
[10:17] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/470693878/unity-settings-daemon_15.04.1+20.04.20200311-0ubuntu1_15.04.1+20.04.20200325-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[10:17] <Laney> bileto generating weird changelog entries for me
[10:18] <Laney> I remember asking robru about that back in the day and he blamed my setup
[10:18] <jamesh> preferred email address on your LP account maybe?
[10:19] <Laney> it was something on the bzr side
[10:19] <jamesh> bzr whoami
[10:19] <jamesh> author of the bzr commit then
[10:20] <jamesh> You can configure Bazaar to use different email addresses for branches checked out below different subdirectories
[10:21] <Laney> I've got a thing in my .zshrc to use different identities depending on the checkout location
[10:21] <Laney> presumably the way I'm setting the bzr one doesn't agree with bileto
[10:22] <jamesh> you can use ~/.bazaar/locations.conf -- sections are directory prefixes, and you override configuration like "email" as keys within the section
[10:22] <Laney>   export BZR_EMAIL="$NAME <$EMAIL>"       # Override email for Bazaar.
[10:26] <Laney> TIL about locations.conf though!
[10:28] <jamesh> Laney: looks like the breezy fork renamed the environment variable to BRZ_EMAIL
[10:28] <jamesh> Laney: ~/.bazaar/locations.conf probably still works
[10:30] <seb128> Wimpress, is Ccing you on launchpad bug enough to reach you or do you get launchpad spammed enough that it's likely to be missed?
[10:30] <Laney> jamesh: Indeed, looks like adding BRZ_EMAIL works
[10:30] <seb128> Wimpress, I've Cced you on bug #1869008 , it's low importance probably
[10:31] <Laney> I'd rather avoid maintaining the same thing in locations.conf that I have in my zshrc if possible
[10:31] <jamesh> Laney: I think that is probably a bug
[10:32] <Laney> you mean that Breezy isn't backwards compatible with Bazaar in this respect?
[10:33] <jamesh> Laney: yes.  The documentation even references bzr's environment variable: https://www.breezy-vcs.org/doc/en/user-guide/setting_up_email.html
[10:33] <jamesh> so what you had should have worked
[10:36]  * Laney nods
[10:50] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags 7b9be6c Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * mutter Debian release 3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/G3ZU
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 8f09aae Iain Lane * pushed 181 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3yPoF
[10:51] <Laney> w00t!
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 15d3de0 Aman Alam po/pa.po * Update Punjabi translation * https://deb.li/ECWi
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 6cd0aa4 Jonas Ådahl src/wayland/meta-window-wayland.c * window: Force placement for first placement rule * https://deb.li/3Iy8h
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 79920d6 Nathan Follens po/nl.po * Update Dutch translation * https://deb.li/X1L2
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 227eea1 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/native/ (12 files) * kms-impl-simple: Add fake cursor planes if no real ones * https://deb.li/iUg6C
[10:51] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 6e966e4 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/native/meta-cursor-renderer-native.c * cursor-renderer-native: Handle lack of cursor planes gracefully * https://deb.li/t1eg
[10:58] <seb128> Laney, well done sir :-)
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session signed tags b1cf7ab Iain Lane ubuntu/3.35.3-1ubuntu4 * gnome-session Debian release 3.35.3-1ubuntu4 * https://deb.li/3ovSV
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 1aacab4 Iain Lane * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/SvaC
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master b50718c Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ gnome-session.preinst gnome-session.postinst gnome-session.prerm * d/gnome-session.{preinst,postinst,prerm}: Don't install gdm3.css anymore * https://deb.li/3zwHG
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master eabfeba Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ control control.in * debian/control: Bump dependencies for ubuntu-session * https://deb.li/3gupc
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 728f946 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/iOHby
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 0505901 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gnome-session.preinst * control, gnome-session.preinst: Add a ~ to relations on exact ubuntu versions * https://deb.li/kvNs
[11:02] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 2589638 Iain Lane debian/changelog * changelog: fix typo * https://deb.li/37wPU
[11:03] <jamesh> no emojis?
[11:03] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master Iain Lane * [merge] merge request !5: ubuntu/master: Depend on newer gnome-shell and yaru and remove gdm3.css handling * https://deb.li/euxn
[11:03] <Laney> an unacceptable oversight
[11:04] <Laney> I'm currently updating the webhooks one by one, would be better to script that I think
[11:05] <jamesh> Laney: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/brz/+bug/1869178 about that Breezy problem
[11:05] <ogra> omg ! color TV !
[11:07] <mantas-baltix> Hi, could someone accept simple patch for console-setup, see bug #1863001
[11:07] <Laney> jamesh: ah, I did too, sorry for not saying, I will dupe mine to yours
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell signed tags 205ea40 Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/rDg0
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 2559d11 Iain Lane * pushed 184 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3fvJ2
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 303d71e Iain Lane debian/ control control.in * control: Breaks: gnome-shell-extension-appindicator << 33 * https://deb.li/MIKi
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master d2eb49a Iain Lane debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/i40ah
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 130c918 Iain Lane debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/7ISN
[11:08] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 122fc7b Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gnome-shell.install gnome-shell-extension-prefs.install * Split gnome-shell-extension-prefs out into its own binary package * https://deb.li/3F0nx
[11:09] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 3f59bc1 Iain Lane debian/patches/ (5 files) * Cherry-pick a few patches from 3.36.1; see patch descriptions for more details * https://deb.li/avvg
[11:09] <KGB-2> gnome-shell ubuntu/master Iain Lane * [merge] merge request !36: ubuntu/master: Update to 3.36.0 * https://deb.li/02hj
[11:09] <seb128> mantas-baltix, hey, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors ?
[11:18] <mantas-baltix> seb128, done, ubuntu-sponsors subscribed :)
[11:24] <Wimpress> Morning destoppers o/
[11:30] <jibel> Hello Wimpress 
[11:34] <mantas-baltix> seb128, I created merge-request a month ago, but no reaction from Debian developers :( , see https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/console-setup/-/merge_requests/3
[12:24] <KGB-1> gnome-session signed tags 85c7d1d Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * gnome-session Debian release 3.36.0-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3JF5F
[12:43] <jphilips> hi all, i was running the daily ISO and the universe repo wasn't checked in software & updates. is this normal?
[12:45] <seb128> hey jphilips, I think it is yes, it's not supposed to be on in the live image, but it's on in the installed system
[12:46] <jphilips> oh okay, as i was banging my head trying to install synaptic and audacious before thinking to check it
[12:53] <jphilips> seb128: does ubuntu come with the system tray extension preinstalled?
[12:58] <mantas-baltix> seb128 , it's very important for Lithuanian users to have included this simple patch for console-setup before 20.04 beta will be released, how I can speed up the process? see bug #1863001
[13:00] <tjaalton> mantas-baltix: is it in debian?
[13:02] <mantas-baltix> tjaalton, my patch isn't included in Debian - I created merge-request a month ago, but no reaction from Debian developers :( , see https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/console-setup/-/merge_requests/3
[13:03] <tjaalton> so it's at least submitted, that's good
[13:20] <mantas-baltix> tjaalton, it would be good if the patch would be accepted ;)
[13:28] <seb128> mantas-baltix, did you submit to the bts as well? some maintainer don't notice salsa merge requests/are not used to work with it yet
[13:32] <seb128> jphilips, the appindicator one is installed by default yes
[13:32] <seb128> tjaalton, do you want to sponsor that console-setup one?
[13:33] <tjaalton> seb128: I could
[13:33] <seb128> tjaalton, k, let me know if you do. If you don't I will have a look later or tomorrow
[13:34] <jphilips> seb128: thanks. strange that the audacious icon doesnt appear in it :(
[13:36] <xnox> mantas-baltix:  uploaded to unstable
[13:37] <tjaalton> even better
[13:43] <xnox> tjaalton:  but that would still need sponsor into ubuntu or a merge in ubuntu
[13:43] <xnox> because it is forked a lot
[13:50] <tjaalton> ok
[14:01] <tjaalton> mantas-baltix: please provide a debdiff for it
[14:01] <tjaalton> against the current pkg in focal
[14:02] <ogra> kenvandine, nothing new from me this week ... do you have anything ?
[14:02] <kenvandine> ogra: nope
[14:02] <kenvandine> ogra: thanks!
[14:02] <ogra> :)
[14:22] <ricotz> hello desktoppers
[14:22] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz 
[14:22] <ricotz> are there rules about using non-default gcc for a specific arch?
[14:22] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi
[14:27] <ricotz> e.g. using the available gcc-8 on bionic for armhf build
[14:28] <seb128> hey ricotz
[14:28] <ricotz> seb128, hi
[14:53] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:55] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth 
[14:55] <hellsworth> hi kenvandine 
[15:02] <didrocks> good morning hellsworth 
[15:03] <hellsworth> hi didrocks how are you doing?
[15:05] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth, kenvandine 
[15:05] <hellsworth> o/ oSoMoN !
[15:08] <didrocks> hellsworth: I’m good, thanks, and you?
[15:08] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[15:10] <seb128> cpaelzer, @vte, we should get 0.60.1 for focal, 0.59.91 is a rc1 for 0.60, we are lacking behind merging the stable version from Debian but it's on our backlog (kenvandine was look at that one), the .1 is part of GNOME 3.36.1 which we plan to get before release (I would understand if you would like to backport a patch to help testing rather than waiting though)
[15:12] <kenvandine> i don't know when i can look at that again
[15:15] <seb128> kenvandine, what was the issue? did that much change between 0.59.91 and 0.60.0 ? that seems weird :/
[15:15] <kenvandine> i was probably doing something wrong :)
[15:15] <kenvandine> lots of conflicts to resolve
[15:16] <kenvandine> and I didn't have a ton of time to dig through it as I had other things to finish that day
[15:17] <kenvandine> seb128: i also tossed everything and stepped through your instructions again and had the same issue
[15:18] <kenvandine> iirc there are maybe some package name differences between debian and ubuntu?
[15:22] <seb128> kenvandine, weird
[15:23] <kenvandine> seb128: yeah, i was probably doing something wrong :)
[15:35] <oSoMoN> hey all, I'm applying for upload rights to the mozilla packageset (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OlivierTilloy/MozillaPackageSetApplication) and I'd appreciate your endorsements
[15:36] <seb128> kenvandine, it's the same name in debian and ubuntu, vte2.91 in debian as well, I probably gave you vte wrongly
[15:36] <oSoMoN> this is mostly paperwork as I already have upload rights for firefox and thunderbird, but the process has to be followed
[15:37] <kenvandine> seb128: no, i did get the right one.  I might be missremembering where the conflicts were
[15:37] <seb128> kenvandine, $ git merge salsa/debian/master
[15:37] <seb128> gives conflict on symbols/control.in/changelog
[15:37] <seb128> which is expected, those are the ones we need to rebase usually
[15:37] <seb128> symbols due to some patches
[15:37] <seb128> changelog is usual
[15:37] <seb128> control as well
[15:38] <seb128> kenvandine, I can drive you through the steps again if you want to do another try
[15:38] <kenvandine> i had tons of conflicts
[15:38] <kenvandine> i can't today, meetings nearly back to back all day
[15:39] <Laney> FWIW you can at least avoid the changelog one by using dpkg-mergechangelogs - see man dpkg-mergechangelogs the last section there
[15:50] <sa-ghosts> what happend to the gdm3.css alternative in focal?
[15:50] <sa-ghosts> after the last gdm update I can no longer user the vanilla one (without the ubuntu theme)
[15:51] <sa-ghosts> use*
[15:51] <seb128> Laney, thanks, that's useful
[15:51] <seb128> Trevinho, ^
[15:52] <seb128> Trevinho, the ping is about the gdm/css question
[15:53] <seb128> oSoMoN, I will write something on your application, I didn't realize you didn't have access to that set yet
[15:53] <oSoMoN> seb128, it's a long overdue piece of paperwork which I kept delaying because I was lazy to write the application wiki page…
[15:55] <Laney> sa-ghosts: It's a GResource now, see what yaru-theme does for inpspiration
[15:58] <sa-ghosts> the problem is I don't use the ubuntu session and the yaru-theme gdm doesn't really fit vanilla gnome.
[16:00] <Laney> You can configure the gdm3-theme.gresource alternative
[16:00] <Laney> sudo update-alternatives --configug gdm3-theme.gresource
[16:00] <sa-ghosts> ah, thank you!
[16:00] <Laney> fix my spelling, don't like to make it too easy for people
[16:10] <cpaelzer> seb128: could you state that we get vte 0.60.1  before focal release soemwhere on the bug?
[16:10] <cpaelzer> I'm absolutely fine to leave that to people that feel more at home with vte
[16:10] <cpaelzer> bug was https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1868116
[16:20] <KGB-2> mutter Marco Trevisan 150293 * commented merge request !57 * https://deb.li/3jjpN
[16:20] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [close] merge request !57: ubuntu/master: Update to 3.36.0 * https://deb.li/pF0g
[17:10] <sa-ghosts> what happend to the new gnome Extensions program?
[17:10] <sa-ghosts> I can no longer see it in the app grid
[17:10] <sa-ghosts> cant use the terminal to bring it up also
[17:11] <sa-ghosts> not talking about tweaks
[19:10] <mitya57> sa-ghosts: it was split out to a separate package, gnome-shell-extension-prefs
[19:47] <oSoMoN> good night all