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swimm3rstaring from today, I will use Ubuntu-mate :)12:21
diogenes_swimm3r, and what have you used so far?12:30
paulbanksdiogenes_, are you by any chance greek ?12:33
diogenes_paulbanks, maybe in one of my previous lifes but not now :)12:34
paulbankshaha12:34
paulbanksyour nickname is of greek descent at least :p12:34
diogenes_paulbanks, and the fact that i like it means that indeed i might have some greek roots.12:35
swimm3rdiogenes_: I used raspbian12:37
diogenes_swimm3r, oh so PI, it seems that the majority of Mate's users are PI users.12:38
sixwheeledbeastRPi image isn't out yet AFAIK12:49
sixwheeledbeastRpi4 I should say12:50
swimm3rI use a RPi 312:50
sixwheeledbeastthat's fine Mate away12:50
VeehemI've a little question about ubuntu-mate on Raspberry 3+ . For listening music, I'm use to Clementine (on Xubuntu) wich is not working on Rasbian and I'm not comfortable with LibreElec. Is Clementine working on ubuntu-mate on Raspberry 3+ ?15:37
AlligatorJoeVeehem i don't know but you can't hardly bead audacious because it has a built in equalizer for adjusting sound to your speakers15:38
AlligatorJoebeat not bead15:38
AlligatorJoesince ubuntu doesn't have an equalizer like win7 ...you can at least get equalizer benefits for all your sound files on audacious15:39
AlligatorJoeif you can get sound working worth a damn at all since it doesn't work very well on these intel chips15:40
AlligatorJoeintel seems to work fine on win 7 or win 10 but not worth a damn on pulse or possibly alsa too15:41
VeehemThanks @Alligatorjoe on Raspbian, its even not possible to install properly the soft15:42
AlligatorJoeVeeham well i don't have a raspberry but it can probably use the equalizer built into audacious if it plays sound ok on pulse15:43
AlligatorJoeVeehem you have some choices for which sound device you want to try as options in audacious15:44
VeehemAlligatorjoe, maybe somebody else has experience with raspberry15:44
AlligatorJoeVeehem well my brother has two of them...and he would probably know but he has one of them tied up with the retropie 128 gig games platform...and the other one tied up with the kodi tv streaming platform15:45
AlligatorJoeVeeham so i can only recommend that you try the audacious file on raspberry and try a few sound devices options and see if it works for you15:46
VeehemThanks Alligatorjoe, my question is more a question of software (problem between Raspbian & Clementine) than a question of sound. Sound is ok with VLC e.g.15:48
AlligatorJoeVeehem oh ok15:48
AlligatorJoeVeehem it is really crazy to use a raspberry pi to play 128 gigabytes of free games on the retropie system but he did it just to see how powerful the raspberry was16:07
AlligatorJoebut it only has a sample of the many games that are out there and does not have for example...Scarlet Grace:Ambitions16:08
AlligatorJoe128 gigabytes of games is a drop in the bucket considering the enormous world of global gamione16:09
AlligatorJoegaming16:09
AlligatorJoenot gamione16:09
AlligatorJoeit also does not have final fantasy SHADOWBRINGERS and many other cutting edge games16:11
AlligatorJoebut while people are told to stay indoors during this coronavirus pandemnic...a lot of game platforms are telling people to just stay home and play16:15
AlligatorJoewhat is the big idea of disconnecting me from this channel and the ubuntu channel and the ubuntu-mate channel17:56
AlligatorJoesounds like ambitious people have a problem with the story of Scarlet Grace : Ambitions17:57
AlligatorJoeor maybe many other stories about issues in the newer games18:02
AlligatorJoemaybe they could learn something if they "stay home and play"18:03
AlligatorJoeafter all it takes a lot of math to make these stories available in electronic form on hardware built out of purified sand from the desert full of free sand18:07
AlligatorJoewhere the characters come alive and many creative worlds can be explored and many consequences can be associated with the dynamics of interactive environments for learning18:14
AlligatorJoewith real time graphics rendering engines rather than just prepared already rendered 3d movies that you can't participate in18:16
AlligatorJoesome people walk around in the desert without mathematical training and never think about using the free sand to create computers that can offer dynamic interactive gaming environments for elaborating on many important issues of societies18:18
AlligatorJoea lot of them just become camel jockeys...and do nothing at all with their lives.18:19
AlligatorJoejust like some people step out into the daylight and never think about using the beams of light to carry their information baggage around the globe18:20
AlligatorJoeand it is such a trivial thing in mathematics to create a laser diode for generating a monochromatic beam of light and modulating its intensity with an electronic signal waveform and then setting up a receiving photocell that can detect the intensity changes and reproduce electronically the modulating signal to obtain its information18:29
AlligatorJoeand the to add some complexity with multiplexers and demultiplexers to carry the information of many peoples signals around the globe18:30
AlligatorJoeand of course it is just mathematics in action because math simply works18:30
AlligatorJoebut a light of people step out in the daylight and never even think about what the beams of light could be used for18:31
AlligatorJoebut a lot not light of people18:31
AlligatorJoelight that is freely available just like plentiful sand in the deserts is basically freely available but without mathematical training you might end up like the camel jockeys that basically live tragic unproductive lives18:33
AlligatorJoeand never see the value of the resources around them18:35
AlligatorJoebut sometimes you can't even begin to explain mathematics to hostile students of a different color....because as soon as you turn a Reiman integral on its side to begin discussion of a LeBesgue Intergral...students want you fired.18:40
AlligatorJoeReimann18:40
AlligatorJoeall they say is that "Your material is white man's propoganda used to oppress and enslave people of a different color" and they see you as an enemy.18:42
AlligatorJoeand they want to fire white people like me and replace them with black or other color role models for their students who have a different color.18:46
AlligatorJoeand it is kind of humorous because the math simply works all around them18:47
AlligatorJoewhether they want to understand it or not18:48
AlligatorJoeand it doesn't matter if the math takes the form of ships crossing the oceans or planes flying though the sky or rockets going to the moon in outer space or satellites offering maps and locations for transportation...or submarines learning to not go deeper than crush depth...the math simple works all around them18:52
AlligatorJoesimply .... not simple18:55
AlligatorJoei just can't type very well.18:55
AlligatorJoethat is how it all started when IBM was blindly trying to sell IBM selectric typewriters to government institutions and a lot of businesses.18:56
AlligatorJoeand we built the model 1 which could do word processing among many other things to take care of typing mistakes that people like me wound up with18:57
AlligatorJoebut turning sand into useful equipment to enhance its otherwise close to zero value is where math becomes necessary.19:00
AlligatorJoeand of course all that is just one small piece of mathematics in action....there are many many other math topics like the creation of vaccines, MRI scanners, PET scans, x-ray crystallography, material spectral analysis, Xrays for medical/dental use, blood-glucose meters, blood pressure meters, temperature meters, and so many other issues in mathematics that it takes years of training to get a math degree.19:12
AlligatorJoeand then the racist black and other sons of bitches accuse you of teaching "White man's propoganda used to enslave and oppress peoples of a different color...19:14
AlligatorJoewhen there is ample evidence all around them that the math simply works.19:15
AlligatorJoejust simple things like the math of buyancy for ships trying to transport goods across the ocean becomes necessary so they don't put too much weight on the ship to overpower the lifting force of the water...and is basically a quantitative issue requiring some understanding of mathematics to not make a FATAL MISTAKE19:27
AlligatorJoeor to learn that a relatively heavy metal paperclip can float on water if you place it carefully enough on the surface of the water and observe that it doesn't sink.19:28
AlligatorJoebuoyancy ...not buyancy....wow do i ever need a word processor with all these typing errors19:30
AlligatorJoethanks to the mathematics of the intermolecular forces on water ingrediants that generate surface tension.19:33
AlligatorJoeingredients ...again a typing error19:34
AlligatorJoeand enough so that the paperclip will float on water.19:35
AlligatorJoeand with the same math you can understand how many biological creatures can run across the surface of a lake and not drown.19:36
AlligatorJoeagain all because the math simply works19:37
AlligatorJoewhether those creatures understand math or not19:37
AlligatorJoebecause studying english or philosophy or craponomics or whatever else comes along won't help them if they happen to need an MRI scan to detect a lethal problem...that is when they wish they would have studied math and learned how to build an MRI machine to accomodate their lifesaving needs...instead of prematurely dying due to ignorance.19:48
AlligatorJoeas just one tool that math provides of the many that are needed.19:50
AlligatorJoebecause if you need a tumor removed for example....you don't want a surgeon cutting  you all over the place if you can locate specifically where that tumor is with an MRI scan....and then only cut in the necessary area.19:54
AlligatorJoewhich is just another case of math coming to the rescue when needed.19:56
AlligatorJoeor even if the surgeon decides to prescribe a temporary pain killer following the surgery...you want him to have mastered the quantitative aspects of HOW MUCH so you don't fatally overdose on the prescription20:01
AlligatorJoewhich is yet again..math coming to the rescue20:01
paulbanksAlligatorJoe, go on20:19
paulbanksplease20:19
AlligatorJoepaulbanks  who are you..weren20:21
AlligatorJoewheren't you the one who accused me of being a bartender which i never was....or having a bogus economics degree which i don't...my bogus degree was in mathematics20:21
paulbanksno you are confusing me for someone else20:22
AlligatorJoepaulbanks..ok sorry..i could be mistaken as i only saw the message displayed when they left the room so there was no way to clarify20:23
AlligatorJoethe message said approximately "only in America do failed bartenders with bogus economics degrees get to go to jail"20:26
AlligatorJoepaulbanks you have my sincere apologees as i must have wrongly confused you with someone else.20:35
AlligatorJoepaulbanks i never know really when or where the attacks on my character come from as i have many many enemies...that have vested interests in making money off of our pioneering ideas that govern entire industries and involve trillions of dollars of trade around the world...and they know they have not paid me the trillions of dollars in royalties that they owe....they haven't even paid one fuckin dime.20:39
AlligatorJoethe bastards sued us for $100 million dollars and took away all our money and our jobs and when i tried to use my bogus degrees for teaching they accused me of teaching "white man's propoganda use to confuse, enslave, and oppress the blacks and some native American Indians and Mexicans....and they fired me to get a black professor who the black students could identify with as a more appropriate role model for them.21:24
AlligatorJoeall they wanted to learn about was BLACK history and BLACK lives matter and what kinds of government handouts could be given to pay for all the oppression against their races.21:26
AlligatorJoeand that was about 40 years ago..when i first became a Doctor....but it still occurs even today somewhat21:29
AlligatorJoejust recently a black lady professor at Yale University was accusing "America of White Privelidge" and the fact that there were a lot of white men in the Congress and the Senate that were the cause of all the black people's suffering21:32
AlligatorJoea lot of blacks are saying if they can't have a black man running for president again at least get someone who they like....they are saying "Vote Blue no matter who!"21:34
AlligatorJoethat is privilege again a typing error21:37
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AlligatorJoewhat do you do with all these women, and all these minority factions each of which is in massive numbers and could probably really be a majority....and they all despise and hate the white man.....when i personally was not around the day their ancestors were made slaves or killed by the invading europeans or whatever.21:51
AlligatorJoei don't feel like i owe them a damn thing...i did not have anything to do with enslaving or oppressing them....i have people who have tried to oppress me and did enslave me in jails many times in the last 40 years.21:53
AlligatorJoeand the bastards stole and impregnated my most beautiful first wife....and caused me to lose her as she ended up having to raise some other bastards kid21:54
AlligatorJoeand then they caused me to lose my job teaching where i could not pay the bills for my second wife...and lost her too about 30 years ago...so i don't give a damn about their issues...i have my own.21:55
AlligatorJoei have to live with whatever memories i can retain about either of my wives and i really appreciate the way they made Rinoa very sexy and able to dance moving her legs and everything just exactly like my wife Maggie....in the final fantasy 8 game22:02
AlligatorJoewhat i would to know is how did they know that Maggie danced exactly like Rinoa....did they talk to Maggie in the last 30 years.22:03
AlligatorJoethey also not only stole and impregnated my first wife kathy but they also killed her at a young age as i found evidence that she had passed away at a young age...but the sons of bitches cops would not let me have the death certificate to examine exactly how they killed her...and the bastards threatened me with more felony charges if i did not leave their county.22:05
AlligatorJoeand they  haven't even let me talk to Maggie in 30 years or any of my kids either....so i don't want to hear about anyone elses shit regarding oppression.22:12
AlligatorJoeand the sons of bitches haven't paid all the royalties they owe for all of our pioneering ideas when we created the trs80model 1 computer...of which they owe in the trillions to me personally.22:13
AlligatorJoethey haven't even paid one fuckin dime.22:14
AlligatorJoeso i don't give a damn about the blacks misery...i have my own issues to deal with.22:15
AlligatorJoethey sure as hell did not care about my misery when they fired me and caused me to lose my wife and kids22:19
AlligatorJoejust so they could put a goddamn nigger as a professor in their University22:21
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AlligatorJoebut at least i get to see memorable visions of kathy and/or Maggie when i encounter game characters like Tifa, Quistis, Selphie, Rinoa, Yuna, Lightning, Lara Croft, and so on.22:25
AlligatorJoethey all seem to be modeled after the characteristics of Maggie and sometimes Kathy.22:25
popeyAlligatorJoe are you a bot?22:26
AlligatorJoepopey...not hardly i am the real thing...ibm's living nightmare to constantly remind them of the wrongs they committed many years ago.22:27
AlligatorJoewhen they stole our model 1 ideas and used them to create the IBM PC XT and AT and eventually all the PC lookalikes....and Internet of Things and Digital Communications like Telecom companies around the world...and all without paying a goddamn fuckin dime in royalties22:29
AlligatorJoeand not to mention many other industries involved like digital electronics in cars around the globe and airplanes and missiles and etc22:30
AlligatorJoeand ships navigation systems22:30
AlligatorJoeand all those sons of bitches around the globe are using our model 1 ideas and have not paid me personally the trillions of dollars they owe me as fair royalties.22:31
tomreynhmm i wonder how this is relevant to this channel22:31
tomreynbut then i really only read a fraction of this wall of text22:31
tomreynis there soemone specific you wanted to read it?22:32
AlligatorJoelook how Atari tried to muscle in on our model 1 games ideas and made money off of our ideas without paying me a fuckin dime22:32
AlligatorJoeand then Commodore, Apple, Sega, Nintendo,Sony and many other heavyweights that tried to muscle in on our model 1 ideas and take away our market share.22:33
tomreyni take that as a "no"22:33
AlligatorJoeand not to mention all the telecom phone companies around the world using our digital communications ideas without paying a fuckin dime in royalties22:34
AlligatorJoeand then to top it all off ...IBM sued our butts off for $100 million dollars for using their bios after they had already used many of our ideas to create the PC22:35
paulbankslol tomreyn22:38
paulbankswhat is going on in here ??22:38
AlligatorJoepaulbanks...a brief review of WHITE history22:40
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popeyAlligatorJoe i don't think this is appropriate here22:43
AlligatorJoepopey ...well maybe not22:43
popeyPlease knock it on the head.22:43
AlligatorJoepopey but you never know if any of those companies employees are around in these channels to hear about what they owe.22:44
popeyPlease stop22:44
AlligatorJoepopey...well i can imagine someone that owes me trillions of dollars would say to stop...as they would try to avoid the issue....but i don't know you personally or who you might be affiliated with22:45
popeyMy name is Alan Pope. I work for Canonical on Ubuntu and Snapcraft.22:45
popeyHowever, it's 22:45 here, so I'm currently sat on the sofa with my wife, and wondering why I'm tolerating this nonsense.22:46
AlligatorJoewell Alan Pope it is not nonsense....it is defacto history...and has not been adequately resolved.22:46
popeyIt is off topic for this channel22:47
popeyIt is nonsense that I get pinged that some rando is talking about topics utterly unrelated to the subject matter of the channel.22:47
AlligatorJoeAlan and that is interesting that you can sit with your wife..when the bastards murdered my first wife and stole my second wife 30 years ago depriving me of their wonderful companionship.22:47
popeyAgain, not a topic for conversation here22:48
popeyStop or leave.22:48
AlligatorJoewell i am not going to do either...so go try to tell piss ants what you want...i am a fuckin Doctor and i don't take orders from inferiors.22:49
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