[00:04] <sc0utonlinux> does rsync automatically sync all changes or do i need to run it each time ?
[00:10] <Ben64> sc0utonlinux: you need to run it for it to do things, and when it's done it's stopped
[00:22] <gp5st> hello. if I run `go build tmp.go` with tmp.go -> https://dpaste.org/fQC7/raw the compiler crashes (https://dpaste.org/M1R3/raw) but if I run `sudo go build tmp.go` it works. I'm not sure where to even look for the issue or what it could be.
[00:22] <gp5st> running 19.10 uname -a Linux antigone 5.3.0-29-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 17 17:27:26 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:31] <jono> whoa
[00:31] <jono> haven't been here for a while :-)
[00:31] <vigilant> hi jono
[00:31] <kostkon> jono, long time no see
[00:31] <vigilant> you are more than welcome, infact, we have a cruiser ship bringing thousands of flowers to you, long time
[00:31] <vigilant> =SX
[00:32] <jono> :-)
[00:34] <gp5st> ok, so it's not just sudo. well,s or of, but if I `sudo strace -f -o run3.trace sudo -u jim go build tmp.go` It still works even if I run go as my user, attaching strace seems to still fix the issue
[00:35] <gp5st> this is maddening. I don't even know where to begin looking at this.
[00:36] <jexmex> I have a 2nd hdd I am mounting as a system wide mount, but I have permission issues with it. Can anybody take a look at my fstab and lmk what I can change it make it usable by all users? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MjshjtKWnF/
[00:37] <gp5st> jexmex, what are the perms on it in the file system?
[00:38] <shevchuk> Hello. I have a PPA for an application with basically no runtime dependencies. But it needs golang >= 1.12 to build (so, Eoan+), which was fine, as I could create package for Eoan, Launchpad would build it, then I could copy package to Bionic for example.
[00:38] <shevchuk> The problem is that Eoan reaches End of Life in July 2020, and Focal does not support i386. So is my only option to drop support for i386 after Eoan EOL, or is there some way to build i386 package on Focal?
[00:39] <jexmex> gp5st, drwxrwxrwx root:root for the mount directory
[00:41] <gp5st> what's the error being returned?
[00:42] <jexmex> Running npm I am getting a permission denied. I even have chmod the node_modules directory to 777 but that does not change it
[00:42] <jexmex> also a permission issue on chmod
[00:42] <jexmex> Basically I want this mount to be open to all users
[00:45] <jexmex> ahh, I think I just need the exec option on the mount
[00:46] <jexmex> thanks gp5st
[00:49] <gp5st> cool :)
[01:08] <brunnner33> Hi
[01:14] <brunnner33> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TOVCD5xl
[01:27] <brunonzanette> Hello, folks! I would like to report a possible bug in Ubuntu 20.04 search bar. Searching for "Privacy" returns the "Search" entry in ubuntu-control-center, instead of the Privacy tab entry. For all the other tabs it works as expected, including Privacy's sub tabs. I've tested using EN and PT-BR languages, and it happens in both. Is it really a bug
[01:27] <brunonzanette> or it's an expected behaviour?
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> brunonzanette: Support and all bugs regarding 20.04 need to be reported in #ubuntu+1 or through launchpad.
[01:29] <brunonzanette> Ok. Thanks
[02:16] <robertparkerx> How can I give a user I add sftp access only?
[02:38] <sparky8251> are there any plans for the 20.04 server installer having ZFS as an option? i dont see it as an option in the install image i got earlier today
[02:42] <Bashing-om> !ubuntu+1 sparky8251
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !20.04 | sparky8251
[02:52] <robertparkerx> I try to put the user in chroot jail but I cannot upload then
[03:11] <klu3> Can someone help me? I keep getting error and I don't know what's causing it.  My question is where do I find error problems in the System Log Viewer? https://ibb.co/7QWqVs3
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> klu3: click report problem, see if you can see whats it about
[03:12] <Bashing-om> klu3: take a look at files in the /var/crash/ directory.
[03:13] <klu3> lotuspsychje: I've click report problem before and its like clicking OK the message just disappears.  Bashing-om: alrite ill go check out var crash folder
[03:19] <klu3> ok found the problem it appears to be from a file usr/bin/marco  thanks
[03:20] <Bashing-om> klu3: :D You do good work.
[03:51] <robertparkerx> Why when I add a user to 'chroot jail' I cannot upload https://url.hashdev.org/5
[05:14] <keyej68167> How do I do something like this? ldflags="LDFLAGS=\"$prefix/lib -lpkg\""; make $ldflags, so that make is called with 'make LDFLAGS="/path/to/lib -lpkg"'
[05:18] <hextreme> Hi. I want to develop desktop application for ubuntu.    Can someone please guide how to?
[05:19] <keyej68167> hextreme: electron
[05:19] <hextreme> i'd be using python for coding, gtk for gui
[05:20] <hextreme> @keye Thanks.     Isn't it for cross platform? I want to develop natively for ubuntu
[05:21]  * hextreme wants to avoit chromium rendering engine used in electron framework
[05:37] <en1gma> are there any ubuntu live distros that have ipv6 as default or prefered working out of box?
[05:38] <en1gma> i want to connect my laptop by cord straight to my cable modem. i have windows 10 but cant seem to get it working either
[05:38] <en1gma> i tried ubuntu 19.10 and ubuntu 20.xx something i forget but i tried the desktop versions
[05:39] <en1gma> should i be trying the server version?
[06:14] <A_D> well, thats interesting. grub reports no space left on device when talking to efi, but there is plenty of space on the efi part
[06:14] <A_D> not sure how exactly to check the efi storage itself, but I feel like "its full" doesn't happen often
[06:14] <EriC^> somebody highlighted me?
[06:28] <RnldYu> Hello
[06:29] <RnldYu> I need to know if the font rendering in kubuntu is the same as ubuntu?
[06:31] <RnldYu> Btw is there anyone to tell me how ubuntu font rendering is so good. What does ubuntu do to achieve that?
[06:32] <r3dux> That is a good question RnldYu, I too have noticed that.
[06:32] <dw1> somehow i got a few programs like sudo in my 'no longer required' autoremove list.. how can i remove sudo from that list
[06:33] <dw1> i guess i screwed up removing some things
[06:33] <dw1> ill figure it out
[06:35] <RnldYu> dw1, just do apt install PKG_NAME
[06:36] <RnldYu> It will remove it from the autoremove list
[07:09] <rmannibucau> hello everyone, I can't see any app in gnome-shell anymore this morning after a reboot, anyone has an idea?
[07:17] <RnldYu> rmannibucau: empty or with no icons?
[07:17] <rmannibucau> RnldYu, really not found
[07:20] <RnldYu> rmannibucau: did you install any gnome extensions recently?
[07:21] <rmannibucau> RnldYu, normally no until I missed it
[07:22] <RnldYu> Very strange.
[07:23] <RnldYu> Do you have /usr/share/applications directory?
[07:24] <rmannibucau> RnldYu, yes and i checked all .desktop with desktop utils app
[08:39] <Xtrem_troll> Hi
[09:27] <jwtiyar> hey
[09:28] <ikonia> hello
[09:28] <jwtiyar> where i can find system settings in launchpad translation of ubuntu focal?
[09:28] <jwtiyar> i forget in which part it is
[09:28] <ikonia> no idea
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: did you find a translation bug or..?
[09:31] <jwtiyar> lotuspsychje, no my language will be available in 20.04 according to lukasz saying, today tried daily build of ubuntu focal i see some miswritten words i want to fix them before final release
[09:32] <jwtiyar> iam admin of kurdish(Sorani) language team in launchpad
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: i recently got a translation bug fixed in my language, and that was language-pack-gnome-yourcountrycode
[09:33] <jwtiyar> in launchpad or i18.gnome website?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: bugs in ubuntu please always use ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal
[09:34] <jwtiyar> sorry didn't get it
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: so you say you found a non-translated item in gnome, so thats a bug in ubuntu, please report the bug with: ubuntu-bug packagename
[09:36] <jwtiyar> lotuspsychje, my language is not officially pushed its just in daily-build of ubuntu.
[09:36] <jwtiyar> officialy will be available in 20.04
[09:36] <jwtiyar> when it realeased
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: yes, so file a new bug for 20.04
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: come join to #ubuntu+1 please
[09:37] <jwtiyar> i have launchpad translation, if i knew the place of the word i will tasnlate it in laucnhpad then will be fixed, i dont think it need bug, because it will too much of bug report for every mistranslation
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: ah you want to help translate?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: join #ubuntu-translators for that
[09:39] <jwtiyar> lotuspsychje, Iam the adminitrator of the lanugage team in launchpad not normal user of ubuntu
[09:39] <jwtiyar> i did ask there no one was available
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: wait until gunnarJ joins today, he can help you
[09:40] <jwtiyar> LOL gunnar helped me alot, iam shying to ask him every thing :)
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> dont worry, he likes to help
[09:41] <jwtiyar> good, we did talk last night in email about how to install my language in daily-builds
[09:41] <jwtiyar> ok
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> jwtiyar: i think he joins at US wakeup
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> few hours from here
[09:41] <jwtiyar> yes
[09:55] <Hamilton> Does ubuntu package have inconsolata fonts?
[09:55] <Hamilton> It seems it just has the "medium" variation
[11:05] <DuckyDev> Hi guys. I've a small script (https://termbin.com/utvm) which should be started when my virtual machine starts. but how can I do so?
[11:05] <ikonia> write a systemd unit file for it
[11:06] <DuckyDev> and run it as root?
[11:07] <DuckyDev> since it needs sudo
[11:10] <oerheks> Typically you instruct systemd to run a service as a specific user/group with a User= and Group= directive in the [Service] section of the unit file.
[11:11] <oerheks> so, User=root perhaps? or be wise; User=www-data ?
[11:11] <oerheks> ikonia, correct me if i am wrong
[11:13] <ikonia> oerheks: don't disagree
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:20] <oerheks> ha BluesKaj
[11:20] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks
[11:25] <Hamilton2> How to change my computer name (showing in temrinal prompt)
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Hamilton2, in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[11:27] <oerheks> !hostname
[11:28] <oerheks> easy to find, actually
[11:28] <Hamilton2> oerheks, BluesKaj https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[11:28] <Hamilton2> what about cloud.cfg and hostnamectl?
[11:28] <oerheks> what about it?
[11:29] <Hamilton2> chaning /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts is enough?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> never used those , I do know that changing the name in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts works fropm personal experience
[11:29] <oerheks> does the  cloud.cfg show up in your terminal?
[11:30] <Hamilton2> oerheks,
[11:30] <Hamilton2> no
[11:31] <oerheks> ubuntu uses cloud-init  IIRC
[11:31] <Hamilton2> hostnamectl set-hostname . does this command also change stuff in /etc/hosts?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> no
[11:33]  * BluesKaj shugs , this topic is over for me
[11:33] <Hamilton2> BluesKaj, thanks
[11:35] <Hamilton2> ah I get it. hostnamectl is the systemd version of achieving the manual editing of those /etc/host files
[11:37] <oerheks> yes, a reboot is still needed too, iirc
[11:41] <Hamilton2> oerheks, ok.
[11:43] <Hamilton2> yeah the manual editing in /etc/hosts is necessary for it to stick. But the !hostname suggest that I should write both my old and new host in there. Is it up to date?
[11:47] <rom--> That I was wondering considering the fact that it's getting real.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> can we help you rom-- ?
[11:54] <pragmaticenigma> Hamilton2: It suggests both as some applications latch onto the old one, and will not check for an updated value. MythTV is an example of that
[11:54] <Hamilton2> pragmaticenigma, even after boot?
[11:56] <DuckyDev> oerheks: So I tried to write a small unit file, (https://pastebin.com/B2DgUjR1) but it gives me an error and refuses to run.
[11:56] <DuckyDev> the error is also in the link :)
[11:57] <pragmaticenigma> Hamilton2: Even after reboot. The installers are what configure the application, they don't rerun that at reboots
[11:58] <Hamilton2> pragmaticenigma, can I add it later if I'm confronted with a problematic app?
[11:58] <oerheks> sorry, no pastebin, no javascript enabled
[11:59] <oerheks> use paste ubuntu.com or termbin
[11:59] <Hamilton2> Or should I change it now? Also how to choose more than 1 name? 127.0.1.1 newname oldname ?
[11:59] <oerheks> pastebin should die :-P
[12:00] <pragmaticenigma> Hamilton2: Save yourself time and frustration, follow the instructions
[12:01] <Hamilton2> pragmaticenigma, ok. The order is important? oldname[space]newname?
[12:01] <pragmaticenigma> Hamilton2: order isn't important to my knowledge
[12:01] <pragmaticenigma> I haven't encountered an issue
[12:02] <Hamilton2> pragmaticenigma, form a logical point of view, what does it mean if hostname is not unique?
[12:02] <pragmaticenigma> what do you mean?
[12:03] <Hamilton2> pragmaticenigma, like if I query my hostname (e.g. if my laptop was a server) I should get one name right?
[12:04] <grawity> how do you "query your hostname"
[12:05] <grawity> the order is *slightly* important
[12:05] <grawity> in that the 1st name in the list is the "canonical name" and the rest are "aliases"
[12:05] <grawity> on laptops it doesn't matter, it might on servers
[12:05] <grawity> as some services want to know the server's _full_ domain name (fqdn), so it should go first
[12:06] <DuckyDev> oerheks: I did't see the message, 2 sec
[12:06] <DuckyDev> oerheks:  https://termbin.com/5zwg
[12:07] <DuckyDev> hold on
[12:08] <franklinl_> Ubuntu 19.10 smartctl spin_up_time treshold is 021, current reported spin_up_time 3950 . Is this number skewed by the fact that this drive is part of a RAID volume?
[12:08] <DuckyDev> oerheks: https://termbin.com/5ftg
[12:08] <DuckyDev> this is the right link.
[12:10] <grawity> franklinl_: afaik threshold should be compared against the normalized "VALUE" column, not against the "RAW_VALUE"
[12:12] <franklinl_> grawity, In that case, the value is 142, so way above the tresh
[12:12] <grawity> I think it's bad only if it's below?
[12:13] <franklinl_> grawity, that would be odd. You generally want spin_up_time to be as quick as possible, or not?
[12:13] <grawity> raw value yes
[12:14] <grawity> but normalized values seem to always be mapped to the "200 = good, 0 = bad" range
[12:14] <grawity> is it software raid?
[12:15] <franklinl_> grawity, that is very interesting. The manpage of smartctl does not seem to mention that, or I am a sloppy reader.
[12:16] <grawity> it'd be a general ATA SMART thing, not something smartctl invented
[12:16] <grawity> e.g. wikipedia: "Normalized values are usually mapped so that higher values are better (exceptions include drive temperature, number of head load/unload cycles[20]), but higher raw attribute values may be better or worse depending on the attribute and manufacturer. For example, the "Reallocated Sectors Count" attribute's normalized value decreases as the count of reallocated sectors increases."
[12:16] <grawity> I assume the 'normalized' values are meant to be interpreted by software in a generic way
[12:17] <grawity> (e.g. "I don't know what this attribute means and I have no clue what units its value is reported in, but its normalized value is only barely above threshold, so I know it's getting bad")
[12:18] <franklinl_> grawity, SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[12:18] <franklinl_> grawity, so I guess the drive is still OK to use.
[12:19] <grawity> looks like my server 1 has HDDs (SATA) with spin-up time 966, 2366, 5766
[12:21] <grawity> the 3rd one seems big, but it's also a WD Green so maybe that's normal?
[12:21] <grawity> dunno
[12:21] <grawity> more importantly, 0 seek errors, 0 spin retries, 0 reallocated sectors, etc.
[12:21] <franklinl_> grawity most of the values are at 200, apart from the seek-error rate, that one is at 100, but the treshold is 0, so everything looks hunky dory.
[12:22] <grawity> yeah for manual inspection the raw value is the more interesting one
[12:23] <franklinl_> grawity, well, that value is at 0 for both Raw_read_Error_Rate and Seek Error rate
[12:24] <franklinl_> grawity, I recon that is a good sign.
[12:26] <franklinl_> grawity, Have a good (insert your local day phase here) and stay healthy! Thanks for all the pointers :-)
[12:45] <DuckyDev> So guys, I've this unit file ( https://termbin.com/z02u error messages hare also here ) which doesn't work on boot, but it works if I start it manually..... Any ideas?
[12:58] <Aiolos> :-)
[12:58] <JimBuntu> DuckyDev: quick though based on what I see... in the custom.sh script, it's calling sudo? If so, do you have the full path to sudo listed or only 'sudo'?
[12:58] <DuckyDev> only sudo
[12:59] <DuckyDev> gonna try to add the full path ;)
[12:59] <JimBuntu> DuckyDev: please try including the complete path to sudo. Also, if that doesn't resolve it... you should break that custom script down to 1 step at a time and include some logging output in it
[12:59] <grawity> the path should be fine (yes, services have a proper $PATH)... though I'd say sudo is not a good idea to use in systemd services
[12:59] <grawity> what does the script *do*?
[13:00] <grawity> why does it sudo to www-data, instead of outright having User=www-data?
[13:00] <grawity> why is there a 'sleep 30'?
[13:00] <grawity> oh yes, and you have a typo in WantedBy= – the target name needs to be all-lowercase
[13:02] <DuckyDev> This is going to look shady as fuck :D bind it is a bind shell there is being launched and changes location every 30 sec ( school work ).
[13:02] <grawity> don't worry, it already looks shady as fuck
[13:03] <DuckyDev> yearh :D
[13:03] <DuckyDev> 2 sec I will send the code
[13:03] <JimBuntu> Please watch the language
[13:03] <grawity> anyway, when the status says "enabled;" that doesn't mean it's enabled for the target you actually want – it'll show that even if it's completely unhooked from the boot process
[13:04] <grawity> so fix the WantedBy, reload, reenable
[13:06] <DuckyDev> grawity: did you get the pm with the code?
[13:06] <DuckyDev> but what should WantedBy be set to instead of Multi-user.target?
[13:06] <grawity> multi-user.target, lowercase
[13:08] <sc0utonlinux> hello my main system is currently hanging .. in X but i managed to open a terminal ctrl + alt + f3
[13:08] <grawity> and yeah I got the PM and I don't quite get the whole point
[13:08] <sc0utonlinux> can anyone advise how i can go about finding out what the issue is
[13:09] <DuckyDev> the whole point is to make a backdoor in a ubuntu system. pentest assignment,
[13:09] <DuckyDev> grawity: but the service still refuse to stay active on boot, it is still dead
[13:09] <DuckyDev> and I changed to Multi- to multi
[13:10] <grawity> did you `systemctl reenable` the unit?
[13:10] <DuckyDev> I rebooted the VM
[13:10] <grawity> yes but did you `systemctl reenable` the unit?
[13:11] <DuckyDev> nope, gonna do it again
[13:11] <grawity> it's not the WantedBy= that actually autostarts your unit
[13:11] <grawity> it's the symlink that gets created during `systemctl enable`
[13:11] <DuckyDev> Ooooh, I actually didn't know. And thanks for your time so far!
[13:13] <grawity> basically systemd starts all units that it finds symlinked under multi-user.target.wants/
[13:14] <sc0utonlinux> now I get the message 3 Started terminate plymouth boot screen" when i go back to F7
[13:14] <DuckyDev> So the service does start now! however the connection with netcat getøs refused. Which works perfectly if I run it manually
[13:15] <oerheks> lolz, pentest assignment
[13:16] <oerheks> manually as your user it starts ?
[13:16] <DuckyDev> oerheks: yup works fine, but not when it starts on boot
[13:16] <grawity> iirc your code showed it listening on a *random* port, so check `systemctl status` to see whether ncat is actually running
[13:17] <grawity> and `netstat -ltn` to see whether it's listening
[13:17] <oerheks> did you unmask/enable it?
[13:17] <DuckyDev> grawity: it is :) I can see the port with nmap.
[13:18] <DuckyDev> hold on
[13:20] <grawity> tbh as far as backdoors go, it's a very half-donkeyed attempt at being hidden, and not very privileged if it just runs as www-data
[13:20] <grawity> now if you used systemd.socket to start it instead of ncat...
[13:20] <DuckyDev> that is the while purpose ;)
[13:20] <oerheks> yeah, no a backdoor, just a front door
[13:20] <DuckyDev> the real backdoor is hidden on the local interface.
[13:21] <grawity> I mean, if someone does `ps axf`
[13:21] <grawity> with ncat running as www-data, they'll immediately think "shady" – but with a .socket they'll see nothing at all
[13:21] <grawity> I guess I shouldn't be saying this lol
[13:23] <DuckyDev> Aaa, that makes sense.
[13:26] <sc0utonlinux> nobody ? *cries* :'(
[13:26] <Baikonur> hey, I'm trying to compile a driver but I'm getting "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'name_of_module': Exec format error" and in dmesg "version magic '4.15.0-88-generic SMP mod_unload ' should be '4.15.0-91-generic SMP mod_unload '"
[13:27] <Baikonur> does anyone have an idea why version magic is getting the wrong kernel version
[13:27] <grawity> sc0utonlinux: are you sure it's on tty7 and not on tty1 or tty2
[13:27] <oerheks> Baikonur, uname -a says?
[13:27] <Baikonur> 4.15.0-91-generic
[13:28] <sc0utonlinux> grawity, ctrol + alt + F7 " [OK ] Started Terminate Plmouth Boot Screen."
[13:29] <sc0utonlinux> i went into F2 as system was starting to freez .. mouse ect became unresponsive .. internet radio stream started looping
[13:29] <oerheks> Baikonur, crappy written driver, same issuue and solution https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2412895
[13:29] <sc0utonlinux> i also hit ctl + alt + del in panic mode.. took about 4 mins before it opneed the termina for F2
[13:30] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1756506
[13:30] <Baikonur> yeah, but it's still getting "4.15.0-88-generic" from somwhere
[13:31] <shevchuk> Hello. I have a PPA for an application with basically no runtime dependencies. But it needs golang >= 1.12 to build (so, Eoan+), which was fine, as I could create package for Eoan, Launchpad would build it, then I could copy package to Bionic for example.
[13:31] <shevchuk> The problem is that Eoan reaches End of Life in July 2020, and Focal does not support i386. So is my only option to drop support for i386 after Eoan EOL, or is there some way to build i386 package on Focal?
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> !ppa | shevchuk
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> shevchuk: 32bit support will remain (to a degree) in Ubuntu with the next release. The i386 platform will not be supported going forward. There are other distributions, including debian, that offer i386 platform support
[13:36] <sammyg> Did I just lock myself out by running ufw enable?
[13:37] <sammyg> Resource temporarily unavailable
[13:37] <sammyg> I got this warning: Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)? y
[13:41] <EriC^> sammyg: did you lose the shell?
[13:43] <sammyg> Connection was reset I think. Now when I try to connect I get "ssh: connect to host x.x.x.x port 22 Resource temporarily unavailable"
[13:44] <sammyg> I'm trying to sign in as root. But I tried signing in with a regular user and it's the same.
[13:46] <sammyg> Do I have to make a firewall rule for ssh before I enable the firewall?
[13:50] <sammyg> I have regained access with a sudo user in another console.
[13:51] <sammyg> How do I correct the mistake? Do I have to be root?
[13:52] <sammyg> OK, I have disabled it.
[13:57] <robertparkerx> Why can I not upload when I put a user in chroot jail https://url.hashdev.org/6
[14:01] <shevchuk> pragmaticenigma: I'm maintaining a PPA. Focal doesn't build i386 package. Is it possible to build a i386 Go binary/package on Focal on Launchpad?
[14:02] <pragmaticenigma> shevchuk: this isn't thee right channel... try #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:40] <Baikonur> if I install only security-updates, does that include kernel updates?
[14:47] <ducasse> Baikonur: often, yes
[14:47] <sc0utonlinux> are we all excited for new upcoming ubuntu releaase ? :D
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> sc0utonlinux: For general chat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <sc0utonlinux> pragmaticenigma, done :) thx
[15:10] <IanLiu> I have an Ubuntu installed on sda2 and an Arch on sda3. I'm on Ubuntu trying to make Grub correctly boot Arch, but it is saying "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". Any hints?
[15:10] <grawity> you forgot to specify the initramfs image (grub 'initrd')
[15:11] <grawity> I remember someone having a complaint recently about os-prober doing that
[15:11] <IanLiu> grawity: I'm just executing "update-grub" on Ubuntu with the Arch mounted. How am I supposed to specify initramfs?
[15:12] <TJ-> IanLiu: 'update-grub' doesn't create an initrd.img
[15:13] <TJ-> IanLiu: First check if the file exists for the booted kernel with "sudo ls -l /boot/initrd.img* ; uname -r"
[15:13] <IanLiu> on Arch linux I just issue a "pacman -S linux", and it creates the initramfs I guess. One of the steps is to run "mkinitcpio -p linux" when installing the Kernel
[15:13] <TJ-> IanLiu: if not, then "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[15:16] <TJ-> IanLiu: oh, you're trying to get update-grub to point to the arch kernel/initrd ? look at the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg and find the menuitem for the Arch install ... it should have last two lines as "linux ..." and "init ..." --- check what they are set to.
[15:17] <grawity> the problem I remember from yesterday was that someone used os-prober, and it'd detect Arch's two initrd images (the microcode and the actual initramfs)... but it would only add the 1st one (ucode) to grub.cfg.
[15:18] <IanLiu> grawity: hmm, I guess thats the culprit, yes.
[15:19] <grawity> since Arch uses unversioned boot file names, you should be able to write the grub.cfg item manually, it doesn't need periodic updating
[15:19] <grawity> (but I have no idea where to place it for update-grub to accept it.)
[15:23] <IanLiu> well, for now I'm installing grub from arch, then. This works ;)
[15:23] <IanLiu> thanks
[15:27] <TJ-> grawity: IanLiu  so arch doesn't combine the two?
[15:31] <richardonnay> Goop, theres an option to install minimally on the gui installer
[15:31] <IanLiu> TJ-: arch correctly assigns the initrd in grub
[15:31] <grawity> TJ-: ucode and initramfs? yeah, they remain separate
[15:32] <IanLiu> TJ-: it puts a line "initrd /boot/ucode /boot/initramfs", whereas Ubuntu it just putting "initrd /boot/ucode"
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> richardonnay: they haven't been in the channel for the past 24 hours... you might be scrolled too far back
[15:34] <grawity> they're in the channel right now, so probably their IRC client will collect highlights
[15:38] <g3poandlsl> is there a sane way to get nss to use p11-kit-trust.so instead of libnssckbi.so?  Symlinking is prone to be overwritten during updates to libnss3
[15:39] <grawity> I would guess dpkg-divert to permanently move the original nssckbi aside
[15:40] <g3poandlsl> grawity, I assume that dpkg-divert would persist through package upgrades?
[15:40] <grawity> yes, that's generally the point
[15:40] <g3poandlsl> thank you
[15:46] <richardonnay> pragmaticenigma: yeah, looks like irssi freaked out on me. thanks
[16:01] <ioria>  IanLiu TJ- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/1635781
[16:06] <Surfer2011> hello, is anyone of you using Jitsi Meet? or has experience setting up a jitsi-server?
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> Surfer2011: For server help, you may find #ubuntu-server to be more assistive. In either channel, please describe your issue in as much detail. It's easier to for someone to connect with you if they know what exactly the problem is, rather than asking if anyone is knowledgable on the topic
[16:08] <tomreyn> also note this software is not part of ubuntu
[16:18] <AudioGoose> guys why am i getting "modporbe: FATAL: Module psmouse not found in directory /lib/modules/?
[16:20] <lsfc1914> Hello everyone. I am on Ubuntu 16.04. I am having problems installing nodejs and npm on my machine. I followed these steps (https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-install-node-js-10-11-12-on-ubuntu-16-04-18-04-via-apt-and-snap/) but when I run node -v after the steps, I get "The program 'node' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install nodejs-legacy"..
[16:21] <lsfc1914> Maybe there are some old instalations of nodejs or I don't know. I'll be glad if someone can help me to remove all of the old installations and to install nodejs and npm properly.
[16:24] <IntelCore> you used the website links. use the -Legacy yet?
[16:24] <pulamea> Hi, I'm need a little bit help. Can somebody help me please?
[16:25] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: For help, you may find it to be more assistive to explain the issue in as much detail as you can. If someone knows something about the application or issue your discussing, they will be more likely to try and help
[16:26] <lsfc1914> IntelCore, when I run "nodejs -v" I get v4.2.6. I guess it's a very old one. Or no?
[16:26] <pulamea> Okay thanks
[16:26] <pulamea> Suddenly my Ubuntu server, it's not accepting incoming connections anymore
[16:26] <IntelCore> does node update?
[16:27] <pulamea> This is Apashe 2.2
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: that's not very detailed at all... version numbers, what you recently changed, did you update, when did it stop working, do you have a back up... is it a speicific application... all of that will greatly help the volunteers here try to help you
[16:28] <fannagoganna> Installing Ubuntu 18.04.4 Desktop from ISO onto VM. Installation spending most of time UNINSTALLING packages. Is this normal?
[16:28] <lsfc1914> IntelCore, what do you mean?
[16:29] <lsfc1914> It didn't update when I followed the link above
[16:29] <IntelCore> get it thru your apt.
[16:30] <fannagoganna> here is what I mean, from screenshot https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Bd1MnhX2/screenshot%20ubuntu%20slow%20install.png
[16:32] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Hi sorry, have not changed anything recently, this have appear from nowhere. Apashe is 2.2, Ubuntu is 8.10 Interpid Ibex. This is stopped working this morning. Not have a backup. Only applications running is Apashe and some python backend for process EPOS payments through webiste.
[16:32] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma This is live production server, so making updates and changes is to a minimum of course. Although this problem have never happened before.
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: Unfortunately, that version of Ubuntu is severely out of date and way past it's EOL... take the server off the internet NOW!
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: Support here is only for Ubuntu versions 16.04, 18.04, 19.10
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: Running a version that old is irresponsible and very likely was hacked
[16:34] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Is there place where I can get support for older version, like from comunity?
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: This is the community... and no... take that server offline right now... you/your company has been compromised
[16:35] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Unfortunately problem is that is impractical upgrade the server at this time. As it is use for processing EPOS payments from website, so is possible loss of sales from downtime. Although we are keeping it very secure, but i understand your concern.
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: That doesn't matter... support is not available here or through any Ubuntu support channels... it is too far out of date. More than 10 years out of date... it is not anyone's problem but yours and your company that they were too lazy and stupid to keep their software up-to-date. Again... take the server off the internet now... it is compromised, it has been hacked
[16:37] <pulamea> Thats not so possible, we are keeping it very secure. Even if is older OS. Is fully up to date. Is this probably problem with Ubuntu? Or with Apashe? do you think
[16:38] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: Again, support is not available here or anywhere... you are out of luck
[16:38] <pragmaticenigma> !eol | pulamea
[16:38] <pulamea> Also as all backend software is in-house developed. We are concerned perhaps to upgrade would break this.
[16:38] <pulamea> Can you advise then please on best upgrade?
[16:39] <JimBuntu> pulamea: This isn't the channel for the support on this. You may get something in ##linux, but I somewhat doubt it. Good luck.
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: build a new instance from the ground up. Install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and keep it up to date
[16:39] <pulamea> Thanks
[16:40] <pulamea> Is Romania government
[16:40] <IntelCore> 18.04 install fast
[16:43] <pulamea> IntelCore thanks. You know if BancaRapid its working with this version 18.04? We are using it for process land tax payment
[16:44] <pulamea> IntelCore As its council/govt website its very important to work
[16:44] <kxsl> install 20.04 in a vm and test your software?
[16:44] <lovetruth> hello.. :)
[16:44] <pulamea> kxsi Thanks we are not allowed to use VMs unfortunately because virus security
[16:44] <pragmaticenigma> kxsl: Ubuntu 20.04 has not been released, please do not suggest unreleased software versions
[16:44] <kxsl> look at your software dependencies and read their change logs and release notes in the new ubuntu?
[16:45] <lovetruth> I have a question about a microsoft product that I installed on ubuntu... :) dunno if I can find support here... :)
[16:45] <lovetruth> I have mssql-server 2019 Express Edition installed on some ubuntu 18.04 server. For some reason, after I restarted the ubuntu machine, it didn´t restart the SQL server. I tried to start it manually using     su - mssql /bin/bash -c /opt/mssql/bin/sqlservr        and then it told me    Error: The evaluation period has expired.        what?!... what can I do now?...
[16:45] <kxsl> then what are you upgrading to? not 18.10 right
[16:45] <pulamea> kxsi Sorry I'm not understand the last question
[16:45] <pulamea> kxsi Currently its run 8.10
[16:46] <pulamea> kxsi Intreped
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: Support for that is only through microsoft... this channel only supports software provided through official ubuntu channels and repositories
[16:47] <pulamea> kxsi Problem mainly is IT department is very strict, because in the past there is been problems of viruses, they are very caucious to allow updates, VM, etc
[16:47] <kxsl> oh wow you are way behind. you will want to do a clean install of the newest lts after testing and upgrading your software
[16:47] <kxsl> tell them updates prevent viruses, not cause them?
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> kxsl: please do not jump in the middle of an ongoing support... as you can see, it creates confusion and all of this was already discussed with them
[16:47] <lovetruth> And which one would be their freenode channel?... :) #microsoft doesn´t seem to work ... :)
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: You call the support phone number, provided on the license that you purchased for their product
[16:48] <lovetruth> that would be one way... :) I might go that way... I thought I could find some commands to fix my installation... :)
[16:48] <pulamea> kxsi Problem unfortunately IT manager is not allowing this. Is there some way to install without fresh?
[16:49] <lovetruth> some quick-fix on freenode ... :)
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | lovetruth
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: You may find "help" in #mssql ... use /msg alis list {topic} next time to find the appropriate channel
[16:50] <lovetruth> pragmaticenigma, tried there already... no one answered and they are only a few... :) but... thanks 👍 :)
[16:53] <pulamea> What is best version Ubuntu to upgrade to
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: I told you already: 18.04 LTS
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> that is the mosy current and recent release... there is another coming soon, but for your purposes i would wait until late 2020 to worry about updating it
[16:55] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Sorry you are saying I should wait? Or I shouldn't wait. Sorry my English is not so much!
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: The currently supported version of Ubuntu, with Long Term support is 18.04
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: In the future, make sure you or your organization is running "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" regularly to make sure the machine is receiving the latest security updates.
[16:59] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma 18.04 is working the same as 8.10? As I am scared to break things. Many people are rely on this service for paying they're tax. But if is the same thing then maybe it's not a trouble.
[17:00] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Also 18.04 it's secure? As this server is processes people's credit/debit card details, so security its very priority to us.
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: that's your organizations problem. and no, there are significant changes to Ubuntu in 12 years. You will have to build up a new machine to install to. You will have to test it on your own to see if things are working.
[17:00] <lovetruth> your nickname is offending, ¨pulamea¨ :) ... - in my (and I guess yours too) language (Romanian) ... :)
[17:00] <lovetruth> anyway, upgrade in steps
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: Please stay on topic
[17:01] <lovetruth> make backups...
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: There is no way to upgrade in steps
[17:01] <lovetruth> pragmaticenigma, yes, it is :) it depends on what services you have there
[17:02] <lovetruth> for example, mysql and so on... You have to upgrade in steps :) ...
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> lovetruth: I guess if your really into spending days doing the upgrade... doesn't sound like that's an option here
[17:02] <pulamea> lovetruth Salut!!=
[17:02] <lovetruth> I did upgrades from 8.10 and sometimes the best way was really to just do a fresh install of 18.04 and then install the new versions of the services you used -> and then just import, somehow, the configs... :)
[17:02] <pulamea> What it's mean in steps?
[17:03] <lovetruth> salutare :) ¨in steps¨ inseamna in mai multi pasi = pe rand. Ce servicii ai?... What type of server it is?....
[17:03] <pulamea> It's possible 8.10 > 8.11 > 8.12 > 8.13 >>>>>>>>> 18.04?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> pulamea lovetruth stop it both please
[17:03] <pulamea> lovetruth Imi pare rau nu vorbesc romaneste
[17:04] <pulamea> English only on this channel please
[17:04] <lovetruth> no, pulamea, really not.
[17:04] <lovetruth> What services does your server run?
[17:04] <lovetruth> websites? Mail? what does it do?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> !ops | pulamea lovetruth offtopic/eol
[17:05] <lovetruth> lotuspsychje, I was only trying to help :) if that is off-topic, I pull back :) success and sorry for trying to help - had no idea I can´t :) ...
[17:05] <pulamea> lovetruth It's running website and python backend is processing the payments credit card
[17:06] <pulamea> lotuspsychje Ok thank you
[17:07] <lovetruth> pulamea, you should check if you can install on some fresh 18.04 ubuntu - the same versions of Apache, python2 and/or whatever software your 8.10 server is running. Then, after it works in ¨stagging¨ - go into production :)
[17:08] <pulamea> lovetruth Thank you, it's good idea. I'm thinking to not straight to go to 18.04, maybe 14.04 for now, as is more stable. But rest of thats, yes!
[17:11] <popey> 14.04 is supported with extended maintenance
[17:11] <lovetruth> lotuspsychje, tell me exactly what I mistaken - if I did. So I won´t miss again. If I did. Or try to be more explicit in your warnings - as I quite do not understand me trying to help someone regarding ubuntu as something off-topic. So?... Is anyone else on the same page with me?... As I really do not understand, sorry for that, mister/miss/mrs. lotuspsychje(!)...
[17:12] <popey> pulamea https://ubuntu.com/esm
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> lovetruth: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss
[17:13] <pulamea> popey Thank you. This is free?
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> ESM is not free
[17:14] <popey> It is free for personal use
[17:14] <popey> for up to 3 machines.
[17:14] <popey> (scroll down, it's on the page)
[17:14] <pulamea> popey I work for local government, our site is run from one machine. This is included?
[17:14] <popey> That doesn't sound "personal" :D
[17:14] <pulamea> It's no profit just only we take payments for the land tax
[17:14] <popey> but scroll down and you see the prices, right on that page
[17:15] <pulamea> popey Ok thank you.
[17:15] <popey> np
[17:16] <pulamea> Oh it's only allowed enterprise use.
[17:16] <pulamea> There is alternative for government?
[17:16] <popey> no, it's all  under 'enterprise'
[17:17] <popey> there's a "contact us" button to get more details, at the bottom
[17:17] <pulamea> popey Is this not only business/capitalist government? This is how I've understand this..... ;/
[17:17] <popey> I'm not a sales person, you're better off using the contact form
[17:19] <pulamea> popey Ok thank you. I am appreciate you ham helped me! :)
[17:19] <popey> No problem.
[17:19] <TJ-> pulamea: another option if the application is tied to the 8.04 software versions is to build a totally new host on 18.04 LTS then create an LXD container with the 8.04 installation copied into it. On the host install the latest apache and use it as a reverse-proxy to the container's apache. In that way you reduce the attack surface to just the web application and supporting libraries rather than
[17:19] <TJ-> the entire OS
[17:21] <pulamea> TJ- What it's LXD?
[17:21] <lovetruth> !eolupgrade
[17:21] <pulamea> ubottu Thank you I understand
[17:21] <TJ-> !lxd | pulamea  a container system
[17:21] <pulamea> Ubottu Ok sorry
[17:23] <pulamea> In fact I think probably it's best just upgrade 19.10 like is said. Which is then just only one other question I have
[17:23] <pulamea> Also thank you very much! for your all help! It is really appreciated! :)  :)  :)
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: 18.04 is what is recommended
[17:23] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Ok thanks
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> 19.10 has a short support cycle... 18.04 is supported until 2023
[17:25] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Ok thanks, last question I have, is, in IT office, we unfortunately stuck using outdated software of Microsoft on client terinals, will more recent Ubuntu still work with this? Like still will accept incoming connections? Or will block as its too old?
[17:26] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma We are use Windows XP SP2 (SP3 is not released in romania), this still can telnet to ubuntu 18.40?
[17:26] <dr`venom> I'm trying to download files to a secondary drive using jdownloader. However, the software does not show the drive when I try to set the saving file path. I'm a noob so I need help like I'm a 4 year old. Thanks.
[17:26] <TJ-> pulamea: You may need to hire an expert to help you which-ever solution you choose - whatever you do has implications you may not be aware of until it breaks even more. My advice is do NOT start an upgrade on the live system. First make a clone of it and test the upgrade in a virtual machine (or betteer, hire an expert to do that and report )
[17:26] <IntelCore> yes
[17:26] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Unfortunately this is definetily not possible upgrade, for legal reason
[17:27] <pulamea> TJ- I have sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, this can pause?
[17:27] <TJ-> pulamea: once you start it you're committed
[17:27] <popey> not if it's only in the download step
[17:27] <pulamea> TJ- Ok thanks. What it means this?
[17:27] <popey> if it's only downloading, kill it
[17:27] <TJ-> ^^
[17:27] <popey> if it's started actually upgrading packages, not so good to kill
[17:28] <popey> (but it is technically possible, but you're left with a half-upgraded and possibly broken system)
[17:28] <popey> (which is possible to recover, but not easy to go back wards, unless you have great backups)
[17:28] <TJ-> pulamea: you should *never* blindlu run a version release upgrade without testing *especially* on a production system. Do you have back-ups of the system ?
[17:28] <pulamea> TJ- no we aren't allowed a backup for security reasons. It's because it's store people credit card.
[17:29] <pulamea> popey Its saying downloading. How can I kill? :)
[17:29] <popey> CTRL+C
[17:29] <TJ-> pulamea: what? no backups? that's just utter stupidity!
[17:30] <pulamea> TJ- Sorry its policy of IT dept.
[17:30] <TJ-> pulamea: hard disk goes "BANG!" and your system is gone
[17:30] <pulamea> TJ- that's never happen before! :)
[17:30] <TJ-> pulamea: then I suggest you tell this "IT Department" to do the server upgrade
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: Then your IT dept should be assisting you... not us, they know the rules, they know what can and cannot happen.
[17:30] <popey> I don't think we're here to provide consulting services to your IT Department :)
[17:30] <TJ-> oh my
[17:30] <TJ-> is it April at by any chance?!
[17:31] <TJ-> errm, April 1st ?
[17:31]  * TJ- looks around for the April Fool's jokes
[17:31] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma They have said its my job to doing. IT is elected official to set policy, not to do
[17:31] <pulamea> TJ- No its 27 Mar
[17:32] <pragmaticenigma> pulamea: we're done here... you've been advised to upgrade the system. continuing to do pursue anymore questions, we will ask the operators to remove you
[17:32] <frib> does anyone have experience setting up an eGPU in ubuntu? Can recommend any useful resources? Thanks!
[17:32] <pulamea> pragmaticenigma Ok thank you for your help! :)  :)  :)
[17:32] <pulamea> frib Which enclosure and card are you using?
[17:33] <lovetruth> pulamea, just a warning... - you might be on your way to kill your job there - this could very well end badly...
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | lovetruth
[17:33] <frib> pulamea, I haven't bought anything yet, I'm still in research phase
[17:33] <pulamea> lovetruth Please remain on-topic.
[17:33] <frib> recommendations exceedingly welcome
[17:34] <pragmaticenigma> frib: for recommendations and opinions, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <TJ-> frib: I used viDock with laptops and expresscard, is that what you mean?
[17:36] <majestic> I am on Ubuntu 20.04 right now (I know it is not stable) but I have some issues with the cpu going 100% on a single core too often so my system lags/freezes
[17:36] <majestic> I did not experience this on 19.10
[17:37] <frib> TJ-, I think so yes
[17:38] <pragmaticenigma> majestic: support in #ubuntu+1 for 20.04
[17:38] <Celmor[m]> Hello, after installing a .deg  because the corresponding package didn't exist in the repo, I'm getting complaints from apt-get for every operating that it has missing dependencies (which I also manually installed via a .deb because the repo version was too old), is there a way to ignore the dependencies of that package for future apt-get operations?
[17:38] <TJ-> Celmor[m]: you're broken the package manager's dependency graph
[17:39] <TJ-> Celmor[m]: if you create a conflict the only proper solution is to back out the local changes you made
[17:40] <Celmor[m]> what I really want is just having apt-get ignore the dependencies for that single package install cause neither the package nor the proper dependencies apparently can be managed by apt (cause of no repo providing it_
[17:41] <frib> TJ-, is that what I need?
[17:41] <lordcirth_> Celmor[m], what is the software you are trying to install that you need a newer version of?
[17:41] <Celmor[m]> something like "just unpack and copy the deb to the proper paths"
[17:41] <Celmor[m]> lordcirth_:
[17:41] <lordcirth_> Generally, you want either a PPA, or to install it outside of apt if need be
[17:41] <Celmor[m]> FAH
[17:41] <aleph-> Hmm, is there an easy way to get systemd 238 on bionic? Don't see it in the backports repo
[17:42] <TJ-> frib: /join #ubuntu-discuss for more info
[17:42] <Celmor[m]> I did try to install it outside of apt (via dpkg)
[17:42] <lordcirth_> Celmor[m], that's not really outside of the APT packaging system
[17:42] <TJ-> Celmor[m]: that's still part of the package management. apt is a wrapper around dpkg
[17:43] <Celmor[m]> the FAHClient isn't proided and FAHControl needs some python package which is outdated in repo apparent'y and I had to install a different version through a .deb
[17:43] <Celmor[m]> now apt complains that I don't have the "proper" python dependencies for FAHControl
[17:44] <Celmor[m]> then what's the alternative?
[17:44] <ioria> Celmor[m], https://askubuntu.com/questions/1217195/how-to-install-folding-at-home-foldinghome-fahcontrol-on-ubuntu-19-10
[17:45] <Celmor[m]> to apt/dpkg
[17:47] <pulamea> Ok so looks like upgrade is nearly finish! Thank you all so much for you helped me! :)  :)
[17:53] <lordcirth_> Celmor[m], also, if you just want to help with COVID-19, you can install Boinc instead and run Rosetta@home
[17:54] <lordcirth_> It's much easier to install
[17:54] <Celmor[m]> already got FAH up and running, also wanna contribute to a team
[17:54] <Celmor[m]> not sure how,  but it fixed itself without that workaround
[17:55] <Celmor[m]> maybe the reboot  (though more like gnome crashing again) helped
[17:57] <TJ-> aleph-: you aren't going to be able to upgrade to v238 on bionic; it'd require massive upheaval of the core due to library version dependencies
[18:00] <Celmor[m]> does someone happen to know how I would change the file picker? I'm used to being able to chose a file from my android phone (mtp) on my i3 desktop but on my laptop with gnome I'm getting a rather dumbed down file picker with only root and home on the left sidebar to pick from
[18:00] <Celmor[m]> the application in question for which I need the file picker is keepassxc
[18:02] <Celmor[m]> now I have to browse to the file with the file manager, open terminal there, copy the path (something like "/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=OnePlus_HD1903_865c3340/Internal shared storage/Documents") and append the file name to allow the application to read from it without the file picker
[18:03] <IntelCore> thanks for Ubuntu, and your help !
[18:10] <lestac> hello!
[18:10] <BromaxSux> hello lestac
[18:10] <lestac> como estás BromaxSux?
[18:11] <lestac> a problem has been detected in a system program, where can I find the log?
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> lestac: you got a crash error?
[18:12] <lestac> (I got this tab from the update-notifier always boot ubuntu)
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> - /var/crash will have crash reports... /var/log/syslog might also help
[18:13] <tasuki> What an absolute piece of garbage the handling of hidpi screens is (I was told when asking for help on irc, start with an insult). I'm on 18.04 and would like certain applications scaled up by a factor of two. I've tried googling, which led me to xpra, which led me to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpra/+bug/1791675 ... now here I am, hating Ubuntu and hating the world.
[18:16] <tasuki> Unity had "Enhanced Zoom Desktop"... that would do.
[18:16] <tasuki> But Gnome is a piece of rubbish where everything is worse.
[18:17] <pulamea> !op | tasuki
[18:19] <genii> pulamea: Describing Gnome as rubbish does not warrant an !ops call
[18:19] <pulamea> Sorry I'm mean OT
[18:19] <pulamea> !ot Like that
[18:21] <aleph-> TJ-: Crud. Not sure I can move to Eona which has 242. Our repos are all bionic through the service we use. However I need at least 238 or higher for a bug fix. Sigh
[18:22] <lordcirth_> aleph-, what bug?
[18:22] <tasuki> Actually, just found out Gnome has similar zoom too, it's just slightly more flakey.
[18:23] <pulamea> Can anybody help me to get cat lsb release to work?
[18:23] <aleph-> lordcirth_: So trying to run systemd in docker. 238 disables a syscall that isn't allowed except for in privileged mode
[18:24] <lordcirth_> aleph-, so if you run earlier systemd in unprivileged docker, it tries the syscall and crashes?
[18:24] <aleph-> Ya
[18:26] <lordcirth_> aleph-, depending on how complex your application is, you might be able to install it's bionic packages on Eoan. Can't hurt to try, if it's in docker.
[18:27] <aleph-> Possibly.
[18:28] <aleph-> Hmm, seems it's not fixed in 242 anymore. Meh, guess I'll go hunt down the bug further
[18:32] <TJ-> aleph-: do you have a bug reference for that?
[18:33] <leaftype> Hello. I have a hardware issue with a laptop not installing off USB anymore, is there a bette rplace to ask the question before I unload it here?
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: what are you trying to install? as many details as you can provide will be helpful
[18:36] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: I have a usb of kubuntu 19.10 (though I had the same problems with a few other ubuntu-based distros). Installing on a hp envy that I previously installed ubuntu on
[18:36] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: i used startup disk creator to make the usb, tested to make sure it booted on my desktop, then put it into the laptop (tried all 3 usb ports too)
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: does the computer detect and try to boot from the USB?
[18:37] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: no, when I load of usb, it gives the error "the selected boot device has failed. Press <enter> to continue
[18:38] <aleph-> TJ-: Yeah I'll scrounge it up in a bit.
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: Is it possible the laptop is configured for UEFI booting?
[18:38] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: when I load into the bios, it is bios and not uefi, so I don't know
[18:39] <leaftype> I do know that I have a version of ubuntu on it right now though, if tha thelps
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> is the current install broken requiring you to do a new install?
[18:40] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: I can load into the os, but it doesn't update to new versions
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: what version is the laptop currently running?
[18:43] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: 19.04
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: do-release-upgrade doesn't activate anything?
[18:44] <leaftype> I haven't tried it through that method. I've done apt dist-upgrade which gets most of the way through then gives an error
[18:44] <Ann1ca> Not sure if this is distro related but... I've an eLicenser USB dongle. It shows up   under dmesg. However I'm unable to find an entry for it  in  /dev.  However an ordinary usb shows up in  /dev..anyone ?
[18:45] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: I'm a bit low on battery now, adn won't get a charger for a few weeks, should I wait to try that again?
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: yes... any of this should really be attempted with a full battery, and idaeally powered by a wall adapter during the upgrade
[18:46] <leaftype> will come back in a few weeks then to try again
[18:46] <leaftype> not sure why that would affect being able to boot off usb though
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: The only thing I can think of there is what was used to image the drive, might not have fully worked for the specific machine. It's hard to know for sure
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: I assume you used the installer instructions from ubuntu.com?
[18:48] <leaftype> I used startup disk creator and an iso I downloaded from ubuntu.com
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: strange... would it be possible to make the USB drive with Windows?
[18:50] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: I haven't had windows in my house in a very long time
[18:50] <leaftype> and it does boot up on my desktop
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> that's promising.. which image did you download?
[18:53] <gordonjcp> hi
[18:53] <gordonjcp> I'm trying to copy files off an old laptop
[18:53] <leaftype> kubuntu 19.10
[18:54] <leaftype> also tried with ubuntu-mate 18.04
[18:54] <gordonjcp> I can set an ip address on it with "ip add <whatever> dev <wherever>" but after about 30 seconds I get a popup saying "No internet connection"
[18:55] <gordonjcp> of course it's got no internet connection, it's directly wired to another computer
[18:55] <gordonjcp> but when it does that, it also flattens the connection I've just set
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: I'm looking more for the URL of the download
[18:55] <gordonjcp> is there any way to disable that annoying behaviour?
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | gordonjcp
[18:56] <gordonjcp> pragmaticenigma: thanks, helpful
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> gordonjcp: I'm presently helping someone else... having another person conversate with one liners is very disruptive. Please mind your tone as currently it's not working in your favor
[18:58] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: I've had it on my desktop for awhile, pretty sure it was this one though: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[18:58] <pavlos> gordonjcp: so the two systems are connected, the issue is the popup?
[18:58] <leaftype> 64 bit download of kubuntu 19.10
[18:59] <gordonjcp> pavlos: yes, it pops up a message at the top, and removes the IP address I've just set
[18:59] <gordonjcp> pavlos: that being said, after the fourth attempt at setting the IP address it seems to have got the idea and left it alone
[19:00] <pavlos> gordonjcp: it should not remove the ip, your setup is not ok. Network-manager should create a connection, manual
[19:00] <TJ-> gordonjcp: what os release is on the problem system? it could be the default network manager trying to take over
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: I'm really not sure then, sorry. I personally install from the mini.iso as it rarely has issues booting and fetches everything up-to-date as it installs
[19:00] <gordonjcp> TJ-: well, it's a nightly of 20.04 but it does it with 19.10 too
[19:00] <gordonjcp> TJ-: I have USB sticks with both
[19:00] <TJ-> gordonjcp: desktop or server installs?
[19:00] <gordonjcp> desktop
[19:01] <pavlos> gordonjcp: create a new connection, manual .10 do the same on the other system .20 they should ping each other
[19:01] <leaftype> pragmaticenigma: thanks for the help, it got me through more than I was doing
[19:01] <TJ-> gordonjcp: so it'd be using NetworkManager which, usually, is configure to not manage a wired connection. However, in a terminal you can do "nmcli con" to check out which connections it sees/thinks it can manage
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> leaftype: I think once you're fully charged... we can help get through that package conflict you mentioned and then get the machine to upgrade through the do-release-upgrade method
[19:02] <gordonjcp> pavlos: it does, briefly :-)
[19:02] <gordonjcp> TJ-: I'll take a look at that
[19:02] <TJ-> gordonjcp: I assume you're starting the "Try Ubuntu" session of the liveISO?
[19:03] <leaftype> thanks, will do pragmaticenigma
[19:04] <TJ-> gordonjcp: if so try this: "cat /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf " and tell us if you see anything different under "[keyfile] than "unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:gsm,except:type:cdma" ... on installed systems this prevents NM from managing wired connections... it is possible that is not the case on the installer
[19:08] <pavlos> gordonjcp: on laptopA sudo ip address add 10.0.0.10/24 dev eth0   on laptopB sudo ip address add 10.0.0.20/24 dev eth0
[19:16] <gordonjcp> pavlos: that's basically what I did, apart from I used the interface names the laptops have
[19:17] <gordonjcp> it's weird, it did it repeatably for about four or five goes and now even after reboots it won't do it now
[19:26] <gordonjcp> link is up, both machines have an ip address, in the same subnet, they can't ping each other
[19:26] <gordonjcp> is there some sort of crazy firewall installed by default or something?
[19:27] <gordonjcp> nope, it just doesn't like that particular subnet for some reason - 172.25.33.0/24 is verboten
[19:29] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having an odd issue with a bash script.  Is this the correct syntax for "if this directory exists": if [ -d "${CACHE_DIR}/nextcoud" ]; then
[19:30] <TJ-> Crell: looks fine but you mistyped "cloud" as "coud"
[19:30] <disi> Crell: yes "exists and is a directory"
[19:37] <grawity> gordonjcp: any other pre-existing routes for that subnet?
[19:38] <Crell> TJ-: ... I KNEW it was going to be something stupid and basic. :/  Thanks.
[20:14] <nobo> Hi. How does one run Ubuntu Touch Emulator on Ubuntu 18.04 ?
[20:14] <oerheks> is there such a thing?
[20:14] <nobo> yes ?
[20:15] <oerheks> url?
[20:15] <nobo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[20:15] <oerheks> as ubuntu touch is based on android, i think anbox?
[20:16] <oerheks> oh there you go, a complete guide?
[20:16] <ioria> only for xenial, i guess
[20:17] <oerheks> indeed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/
[20:17] <nobo> i think it's qemu thing but I'm not doing that
[20:18] <oerheks> build it yourself, option 2
[20:19] <oerheks> or maybe better; ask in the #ubports chanel?
[20:19] <_Sym_> oerheks, ubuntu touch is not based on android
[20:19] <oerheks> _Sym_, yes, it is.. there is an other port in development
[20:20] <nobo> idk I'll probably just install xenial packages
[20:21] <_Sym_> oerheks, interesting. I wonder if it can run Play Store
[20:21] <oerheks> all i know, it is a halium plugin
[20:22] <oerheks> now joining lineage .. https://www.xda-developers.com/developer-ports-ubuntu-touch-to-the-xiaomi-redmi-note-7/
[20:22] <Nukpwr> Hello, I was hoping someone could help me bind my extra mouse buttons (Thumb buttons) to other buttons. I'm having no luck with imwheel or xorg editing. xev doesn't recognize them as button 8 and 9 as they should be. I've been googling and trying for a bit now.
[20:22] <oerheks> but really, #ubports is the place to be
[20:23] <nobo> ok thx
[20:36] <exell> Can anyone point me in the right direction as a google search was useless. I'm looking for a quicklaunch bar widget or program that sits at the top of the screen in the middle that I can add programs to. KDE / Plasma
[20:38] <pavl> hi
[20:38] <pavl> please give me advice
[20:38] <pavl>  I do not understand clearly how to copy text from tty
[20:39] <pavl> no gui no mouse
[20:39] <pavl> Have old pc with text terminal
[20:39] <pavl> installed text mode server ubuntu 19.10 on it
[20:39] <pavl> I have standalone computer with several disks and need copy uuid of them and paste to fstab.
[20:39] <oerheks> ctrl shift + v
[20:39] <pavl> i send command blkid
[20:39] <oerheks> the shift overrides the confinement of TTY, also Virtualbox and such
[20:40] <pavl> it shows me all uuid od all disks connected to system, I need to copy it to fstab, for mount
[20:40] <pavl> how to do it, can I somehow copy text from tty
[20:41] <ioria> pavl, gpm will solve a lot of problems
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks: They are running in TTY.... the keyboard short cuts may not work
[20:41] <ioria> pavl, sy, no mouse you said
[20:42] <ioria> pavl, you can save the uuis in a variable and pipe to fstab
[20:42] <pavl> I have some output, maybe 3-5 lines, and have to copy some simbols from that lines
[20:42] <pavl> in tty
[20:42] <pavl> can i do it without put stdout to the file
[20:42] <oerheks> oh, from tty to textfile ?
[20:42] <EriC^^> pavl: you could always "sudo blkid /dev/sdxY | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab"
[20:43] <EriC^^> then edit it with sudo nano /etc/ftsab
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[20:44] <oerheks> sudo blkid > cat >> /home/$USER/uuidtext.txt
[20:44] <pavl> so it is not possible to use arrows and manipulate output in tty
[20:44] <oerheks> oh, EriC^^ is faste :-D
[20:47] <pavl> sudo blkid
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> pavl: that usually works better in a terminal
[20:48] <TJ-> I generally do  export D=/dev/sdXY; echo "UUID=$(sudo blkid -o value -s UUID $D) /path/to/mount $(sudo blkid -o value -t TYPE $D) defaults 0 0" | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[20:49]  * pavl slaps pragmaticenigma around a bit with a large trout
[20:49] <pavl> heh
[20:49] <pavl> I am just a beginner
[20:50] <pavl> I want to make it by myself to understand how the things work
[20:50] <pavl> guys from #vim recommend use screen
[20:51] <pragmaticenigma> If your screen is wide enough, you can multiple terminals at one time pavl
[20:54] <TJ-> pavl: 'tmux' is better choice than screen - more modern with greater functionality. In particule the "wemux" wrapper for it that enables really powerful pair-programming style operation. I use that daily for shadowing and teaching my people
[20:55] <pragmaticenigma> TJ-: Does tmux enable some amount of cut/paste like screen can?
[20:56] <GoneViral> So does Ubuntu not even bother tagging packages with debtags?
[20:56] <GoneViral> The number of tagged packages between Debian proper and Ubuntu are waaay off
[20:56] <pragmaticenigma> GoneViral: Do you have a specific support issue that you are trying resolve that we can help with?
[20:56] <TJ-> pragmaticenigma: yes
[20:56] <ChadTaljaardt> augh i messed up big time, not sure if this is the right place for help but not really sure where is better. I have 2 hard drives that used to be formatted with APFS, i wanted one of them to run ZFS so i moved all the data to the first hard drive then in ubuntu i tried to format the second one with ZFS, once done i rebooted to see if it would work with MacOS using OpenZFS however both drives are showing as formatted with ZFS now.. Meaning ive lost
[20:56] <ChadTaljaardt>  all the data. I am going to attempt to do a file recovery but not sure if i should try format it back to APFS or run the file recovery on the ZFS drives
[20:57] <GoneViral> pragmaticenigma: yeah, browsing by tags in aptitude
[20:57] <GoneViral> that's actually of any use
[20:57] <TJ-> GoneViral: the overrides files aren't copied from debian
[20:57] <ChadTaljaardt> anyone have any suggestions on what i can do
[20:57] <GoneViral> TJ-: ok so it seems you asked already. Thanks :)
[20:57] <TJ-> GoneViral: no; I *know*
[20:57] <GoneViral> ok, I sit corrected :P
[20:58] <pragmaticenigma> ChadTaljaardt: didn't you do something similar earlier this week?
[20:58] <GoneViral> Is there a purposeful reason that the package tags are not tended to, or is it just a matter of resources?
[20:58] <ChadTaljaardt> nope?
[20:59] <ChadTaljaardt> earlier this week i was asking about package versions for things
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> ChadTaljaardt: Ah! that's why the name rang a bell
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> ChadTaljaardt: PhotoRec might be able to recover some of the files
[21:00] <pragmaticenigma> It will do a byte-by-byte sector scan and look for the file fragments
[21:01] <pragmaticenigma> ChadTaljaardt: Oh, run the recovery before you format again
[21:01] <ChadTaljaardt> just not sure if itll be a issue as it was on apfs before
[21:01] <ChadTaljaardt> ahh okay so i shouldnt reformat again
[21:01] <pragmaticenigma> you don't want to do any more writes to the drive, or you will not be able to recover anything
[21:01] <TJ-> GoneViral: I think its due to the fact that Ubuntu focuses on using appstream because the thrust is on the GUI tooling
[21:04] <GoneViral> TJ-: OK, that makes sense now I guess. It was curious to me because the package management tools have adopted debtags but Ubuntu has not. It was curious due to the fact that Ubuntu has always been quicker to integrate things than most.
[21:04] <GoneViral> It's odd to find something *missing*, basically.
[21:06] <TJ-> GoneViral: i guess mostly it is because the debtags database is outside the packages so doesn't get automatically imported when we do an archive sync
[21:06] <TJ-> GoneViral: we'd have to replicate the debtags database and the tooling that merges into the debian/control files
[21:07] <GoingViral> TJ-: yeah I saw the way the packages are applied and I was surprised at the manual intervention necessary by reviewers.
[21:07] <GoingViral> Sorry, that the tags are applied*
[21:07] <TJ-> GoingViral: makes sense the way Debian do it but does mean 'downstream' miss out unless they take positive steps
[21:08] <GoingViral> TJ-: it seems relatively new, also. *Relatively*
[21:08] <TJ-> 2015? :D
[21:08] <GoingViral> For Debian that's Tuesday
[21:09] <GoingViral> They're all busy reviewing packages so improving the tag system will take a while
[21:10] <GoingViral> Lol
[21:19] <nobo> well ... https://ubuntu-touch.io/get-ut
[21:19] <gordonjcp> grawity: nope, one of life's little mysteries, I just used a different subnet and it worked okay
[21:20] <oerheks> nobo,  and one can go back to android. have fun!
[21:20] <TJ-> gordonjcp: could have been duplicate address detection kicking in
[21:21] <oerheks> .. and come back :-D
[21:21] <GoingViral> All of life's mysteries are about using the right subnet
[21:21] <nobo> c u
[21:31] <pi0> currently running ubuntu 18.04, i have a andriod 10 inch tablet, is it possible to run dual monitor over a tablet?
[21:38] <towser> big question: ubuntu on vm on old macbook, will it run ok?
[21:38] <pavl> try it and you'll know
[21:39] <pavl> it very depends
[21:40] <towser> this is not a powerful computer, late 2007 apparently
[21:40] <pavl> in text only mode 384 ROM is enough
[21:40] <pavl> but virtual box need at least 2Gb
[21:41] <pavl> so it depends
[21:41] <towser> this has 4gb ram so i guess it's fine
[21:41] <GoingViral> towser: that's fine for RAM
[21:41] <pavl> install it and try. you could try lubuntu, it is lightweight ubuntu flavour
[21:42] <GoingViral> Granted I have a MacBook Pro 2015, so different
[21:42] <pavl> so it'll work even with 512 mb in virtual environment
[21:42] <pavl> in GUI mode
[21:42] <GoingViral> But Pop!_OS runs great
[21:43] <towser> lubuntu might work if this doesn't *eventually* load the installer
[21:44] <oerheks> one can try live mode..
[21:44] <pi0> any suggestions on dual monitor setup with an android tablet?
[21:44]  * pavl slaps pi0 around a bit with a large trout
[21:44] <sc0utonlinux> Which program cann I use to offline sync my google drive ?
[21:44] <pavl> pi0 could you ask again
[21:45] <towser> right now it's thinking on a black screen
[21:45] <oerheks> yes, android channel pi0
[21:45] <akem> Dual monitor with Android tablet? weird.
[21:45] <pi0> sure
[21:45] <pi0> currently running ubuntu 18.04, i have a andriod 10 inch tablet, is it possible to run dual monitor over a tablet?
[21:46] <pi0> akem: it sure is, but on a budget
[21:46] <pi0> trying to make the best of a worst setup
[21:46] <oerheks> chrome can do chromecast
[21:46] <pavl> pi0 no idea,
[21:46] <towser> ahh it's loaded finally
[21:46] <pavl> dual screen by what
[21:46] <oerheks> then somethng should be connected to that dual monitor setup
[21:47] <pavl> hardware, cable, softwaer
[21:47] <akem> It will probably suck. I don't see the point with 10" only. And only via network...
[21:47] <pi0> akem: in this case we would have to be more creative, and think about possible virtual dual monitor that can extend via software
[21:47] <oerheks> explain more please
[21:47] <pi0> over usb 3.0
[21:47] <towser> it seems to run but a lot of thinking time
[21:48] <oerheks> this is ubuntu support, *you* must tell how to connect to that dual screen
[21:49] <GoingViral> towser: what are you using for the live? USB or CD/DVD?
[21:49] <towser> GoingViral: live trying to install
[21:49] <pi0> the only possible connection method between my ubuntu laptop and android tablet would be via usb
[21:49] <GoingViral> towser: I'm betting that it's the read speed of the USB if that's what you're using
[21:50] <GoingViral> towser: probably earlier USB version
[21:50] <pi0> and i was wondering if ubuntu offered a virtual method, combining an android app and some ubuntu settings or application to allow this dual monitor option to work
[21:50] <akem> pi0, You could run a VNC server on host and VNC client on your tablet you'll acces the computer.
[21:50] <towser> GoingViral:  more like the hard drive itself  but yeah probably
[21:50] <pi0> akem: i like that idea, does vnc allow connection via usb
[21:51] <akem> pi0, I did it on the phone already, it works. No USB, only LAN.
[21:51] <pi0> and does vnc allow isolation to a certain virtual screen online, so it does now mirror my primary screen
[21:52] <pi0> akem: oh shoot! i can only have one device connected to wifi
[21:52] <oerheks> tons of solutions, VLC can also do tons of streaming
[21:52] <oerheks> webcam in android, desktop
[21:52] <towser> could also be the processor making the vm slow
[22:37] <sc0utonlinux> how do i wrap something up as a service ?
[22:43] <str1ngs> hello, every since nvidia drivers are installed by default. nouveau no longer works with lightdm or X11 sessions. if I used GDM I get a login display but then X11 sessions lose the display. GDM and wayland work for some reason though.
[23:48] <Merc> hi folks.  i'm running ubuntu 19.10, with NVIDIA binary blob supplied by the installer.  i accidentally (dont ask) added the "graphics driver" ppa and installed some goofy stuff; now my nvidia-settings wont run (some library mismatch).  can anyone tell me how to "reset" all of my 19.10-supplied nvidia drivers?
[23:48] <Merc> i was using 440.xx i think, whatever the most recent ubuntu-supplied nvidia blob
[23:50] <EriC^^> !ppa-purge | Merc
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Merc: Now a driver conflict ? pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[23:50] <Merc> hmm yeah i already removed the file from /etc/sources.d/
[23:51] <Merc> Bashing-om: the driver seems to be working fine but nvidia-settings throws: ERROR: /lib/libnvidia-gtk3.so.440.64.00: undefined symbol:
[23:51] <Merc> i think i accidentally got my stuff all mismatched
[23:51] <kostkon> Merc, you need to re-add the PPA
[23:51] <Merc> oh wait, eyah
[23:51] <Merc> so
[23:52] <Merc> i THINK ubuntu supplied me with 435
[23:52] <Merc> hm im not sure anymore :(
[23:52] <Merc> this is the worst ive stuffed up a linux install in decades
[23:54] <Merc> ohhhhh boy
[23:54] <Merc> i cant believe i was so stupid
[23:57] <Merc> yeah
[23:57] <Merc> i accidentally installed some -440 packages i think
[23:57] <juanonymous> how do i check what version of package is imstalled to the system? example tls?
[23:57] <Merc> and -435 are what comes from ubuntu
[23:57] <juanonymous> how do i check what version of tls is installed?
[23:58] <ducasse> juanonymous: apt policy packagename
[23:59] <oerheks> install synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter
[23:59] <oerheks> !info synaptic