[00:00] thanks ducasse, another question if example i have tls 1.6 installed and wanted to upgrade it to 1.7 what's the easiest way to do that? [00:03] merc@quanta:~$ sudo apt remove libxnvctrl0 nvidia-settings [00:03] those were the two packages that got installed [00:03] i got it fixed i think [00:03] whew [00:04] is there a command that will like, check the integrity of my entire apt/deb database? [00:04] just to make sure everything is kosher [00:04] i got nvidia-settings running again [00:04] juanonymous, what tls are you pointing at? [00:04] i had gotten a few nvidia packages for 440.xx installed, when ubuntu supples 435 [00:05] oerheks: tcl-tls [00:06] to upgrade tcl-tls 1.7.16 any way to achieve that without getting it from source? [00:07] Bionic LTS gives 1.6 , next 20.04 LTS beta, 1.7.20-1 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcltls/ [00:07] Else Eoan 1.7.18 [00:07] Disco is dead, EOL [00:09] i see no PPA on launchpad. [00:10] i see, i guess, i need to forward this to my service provider [00:10] Eoan 1.7.18 is a paid os? [00:10] :-) [00:10] if i am right? [00:10] no, just a step between LTS-LTS, 9 months support. [00:10] ok, thanks [00:11] LTS gives 5 years, and 5 years extended. [00:11] got it [00:11] hmmm [00:11] !tls [00:11] err [00:11] !lts [00:11] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [00:12] ubuntu-studio just 3y === anon is now known as Guest19379 === EuphOria is now known as LOGOS [00:42] is there some way I can format an external disc as removable ext? and what is udf? I need it to be recognized by windows, linux, and errr, linux lol (because mac can kma) Oh, and how to do this without it being owned by root, it's going to connect to a raspberry pi, this pc in windows and ubuntu [00:43] oerheks: im trying to compile tls 1.7 from source [00:43] i get this error https://termbin.com/o751j [00:43] maybe you can help [00:45] configure: error: Unable to get OpenSSL Configuration <- that should be on the last part [00:45] that is the error message [00:46] it's not on that paste, but if it's unable to obtain the openssl config, do you have it installed? [00:48] Drecondius: yep [00:49] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nMG91c33/ [00:50] or is there a package i needed to install aside from openssl? [00:51] apt install tcl8.6 tcl tcl8.6-dev tcl-dev build-essential libssl-dev pkg-config; ### from https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/tls [00:52] not sure numbers are right, but you get the idea === pplude is now known as p2hang [00:53] you might ask for an impossibe fix, you might want to jump to 20.04 beta [00:54] did you sudo make? or just try make then, because I see no reason it wouldn't be able to find the configs if it's been installed [00:56] oerheks: i have all those installed except for pkg-config, let me try [00:56] Drecondius: not on the make part yet [00:57] i get that error | ./configure [00:57] i think it would be sudo make config to create the config for make to run [00:58] or am i using the wrong syntax here, someone correct me otherwise [00:58] !build [00:58] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [01:00] plus my service provider does nt have ubuntu 20.04 beta as well, latest ubunut is ubuntu 19.10 [01:00] ubuntu.com [01:00] that's the only way to get the beta [01:01] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ [01:01] and i feel dumb now [01:01] no, i know the way, as member :-) [01:02] i do not to pretend i know it all .. certainly not, but can tell who does [01:03] Maybe you can help me then, is there a way to set up an ext3 or ext4 drive to mount and unmount as a removable device [01:03] for 1 user, any user? [01:03] any [01:04] it's going to a pi so i probably need to stick with ext3 so i can mount it on windows [01:04] i got a dell i14 5481 with ubuntu 18.04.4 lts [01:04] its a touch laptop, or 2 in 1 [01:05] the screen doesnt spin automatically when i turn it, hiow can i throubleshoot, cant someone help me? [01:09] i'll see if there is an exfat driver on raspbian [01:09] what's the command to check for path? example i need to check the path where openssl is installed? [01:10] Drecondius, create a group for that drive, or add it to something logical, adm [01:10] https://itsfoss.com/set-write-permission-ext4-partition-ubuntu-linux/ [01:11] yeah, but ext4 doesn't play well with the ext drivers on windows, so I'm gonna have to neuter it with fat 32 or install the exfat driver on the pi [01:11] sudo chgrp adm /media/your/drive ##sudo chmod g+w /media/your/drive [01:11] so i can do that to the root of the drive and it will work recursively? [01:11] exfat-fuse and exfat-utils are available too [01:12] I'm going to say exFAT is your best bet [01:12] Drecondius, yes, see that article. [01:13] lots of choice, p2hang, that is the fun [01:14] Greetigns [01:14] Greetings [01:14] <10 feet> hi SociallyDistant <10 feet> [01:14] haha oerheks [01:15] I'm trying to install Ubuntu 18.04.4 server from a USB stick to an Acer laptop and the install can't see my SSD drive. So I'm trying to edit the grub file. [01:15] Anyone experienced with this? [01:15] sounds like you have an UEFI bios machine? [01:15] Yes [01:16] Fastboot disabled? [01:16] I believe so, yes [01:16] and some other stuff, raid to ahci.. [01:16] I turned that off [01:16] !uefi [01:16] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [01:16] I think the problem is the SSD [01:16] ./configure --with-openssl-dir=/usr/include/openssl/ --prefix=/home/one/tls117 - i think i got it [01:16] SociallyDistant: is the drive set to ahci in bios? [01:16] SociallyDistant have you disabled secure boot in bios, does it have windows on it, if it does, do a full shutdown by holding shift when you click shutdown [01:16] maybe not.. [01:16] dit you start the ubuntu iso in UEFI mode? [01:17] this is sometimes only possible, after setting a password in uefi [01:17] One sec let me check on all this [01:17] oh yeah, if the usb is only using mbr it won't see the ssd [01:17] jups [01:18] perfectly safe.. if you set password. [01:18] Drecondius: Any remedy? [01:19] oh, and make space free from windows itself, if any installed. [01:19] if you used rufus, you can set it to do mbr/uefi, uefi only [01:20] Ah, let me try that. Thanks, Drone [01:20] oops Drecondius [01:20] I did use Rufus [01:21] If you have it go the mbr/uefi route, be sure to pay attention to the bootloader, there will be 2 entries, if you get a visual splash screen first, it booted into mbr, the uefi boot is just a text box [01:23] monitor-sensor reports that "Has accelerometer (orientation: undefined)" [01:23] SociallyDistant the ubuntu uefi boot setup will be a black / brownish screen with just a text selection [01:24] Target system: BIOS or UEFI is only choice [01:24] Partition scheme: MBR and GPT are two choices [01:24] go for GPT. [01:24] no limit of 4 primairy. [01:24] ^ [01:25] Alright I'll give it a shot [01:25] have fun! [01:25] Most here are from USA? [01:25] Not that it matters [01:25] Just interesting [01:26] It's cooking the USB now [01:26] No idea who is on tonight, NL here. [01:26] geodedag [01:29] goededag === Guest19379 is now known as anon === gbs-ufam is now known as gbs_ === gbs_ is now known as gbs- === anon is now known as Guest16074 [01:29] goeie nacht, morgen uurtje korter slapen. === Guest16074 is now known as anon2 [01:30] Yes, not morning yet :) [01:37] Ok, 15 hours is too long to wait for it to format a drive [01:37] not [01:39] now when I boot the usb, it gives me a grub> prompt [01:42] and monitor-sensor doens't detect my rotations [02:10] SociallyDistant: What model laptop is this? [02:10] Acer Aspire 5 [02:11] When I boot the usb, the install goes to a grub> prompt [02:21] SociallyDistant: To be clear, have you actually installed Ubuntu yet? It seems that your laptop has two drives, one small faster one that acts as a cache and one large slower one. My guess is that it is the job of the operating system / drivers to make these two drives appear as one. This is somewhat similar to FakeRAID. [02:21] Nah, I'm trying to install it [02:24] SociallyDistant: Are you planning to dual boot? Is there any valuable data currently on the drive (/ drive + cache combination)? [02:25] Windows is on the hard drive. I just want to wipe it and install Ubuntu [02:28] SociallyDistant: Then Drecondius' recommendation may be what you need. Basically, you want to prevent your firmware from treating these two drives as one, and you also want to remove any raid / raid like metadate on the two drives. [02:29] SociallyDistant: I would look for instructions specific to your laptop. I unfortunately need to leave. [02:29] My laptop shutoff and can't get it to turn on. Separate problem. :) [02:29] Thanks, Jordan_U === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [03:17] good evening, happy Friday, and I hope everyone here and their families are safe and healthy. [03:18] thank you calcmandan , the same for you! [03:22] Not again. Ran sudo apt update and there were 21 outstanding packages. did sudo apt upgrade and it downloaded a bunch... then dpkg bombed out and now I've a mess. [03:23] MarkB2: Show us the mess: pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' :D [03:26] I now have a 14K file full of "mess". [03:26] ?pastebin [03:27] ~pastebin [03:27] Pastes to paste.ubuntu.com ? [03:29] Bashing-om: Thank you.. here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tWTXs8Qz8m/ [03:29] MarkB2: looking. [03:34] MarkB2: PPA ? what shows ' apt policy libreoffice ' ? [03:34] !info libreoffice bionic [03:34] libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.10 (bionic), package size 11 kB, installed size 103 kB [03:35] One moment.. [03:37] Bashing-om: Post here in another paste? [03:38] About 12 lines. [03:39] Right.. another paste coming right up. [03:40] Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XxS4SykpC4/ [03:43] MarkB2: We can not adress here what a PPA does. You can either ask the PPA maintainer OR revert libreoffice to what is in the repo. - we can do that :D [03:43] !ppa | MarkB2 [03:43] MarkB2: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [03:44] I'm game. Please tell me how to revert libreoffice. [03:46] !ppa-purge | MarkB2 [03:46] MarkB2: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [03:46] I'm trying to upgrade an Xubuntu 16.04 system to Ubuntu 18.04 using "sudo do-release-upgrade --mode=desktop" and the upgrade fails with this output: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/471030168/DpkgTerminalLog.txt I have a pre-upgrade btrfs snapshot so I can re-do the upgrade and do it cleanly if I can find a way to avoid this one problem. [03:48] Bashing-om: did sudo apt install ppa-purge and this "mess" insists on looking at the libreoffice. Won't install ppa-purge. [03:52] MarkB2: Ouch ! Not at all sure of a best practice here, as I bet attempting to remove libreoffice will also fail. [03:54] I might be able to chainsaw libreoffice out... just wipe out anything that looks like it. [03:54] The automation is suggesting apt --fix-broken install. [03:55] MarkB2: If you nare willing to try and hack - well got good backups ? we can sic dpkg on libreoffice and see what haps. [03:55] Now, there's a thought. I've used dpkg before... [03:55] ... and it's been complaining about broken pipes left and right. [03:57] !info libreoffice-math bionic [03:57] libreoffice-math (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite -- equation editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.10 (bionic), package size 385 kB, installed size 1625 kB [03:59] Right now it's complaining that two different libreoffice archives have the same file in them. [04:01] Let me paste what a sudo apt --fix-broken install says. [04:02] [q] I am trying to upgrade the firmware of a new SSD drive that I got. Samsung. They only support windows with their tool that does it, but offer a bootable iso for linux users. How to install that iso to a flash drive? USB-creator doesn't seem to care about it [04:03] MarkB2: As the goal here is to purge libreoffice, maybe here you can ' sudo dpkg -P libreoffice-common ' ? // waiting :D [04:03] ubuntu startup disk creator, that is [04:04] jjbuggle: Most times you just need to use dd with the iso image as input source and the usb drive designation as the output [04:05] Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KmCtqH3DHz/ [04:06] jjbuggle: So if in the terminal, when: dmesg:tail shows the USB stick you just plugged in is showing up as sdh and you are in the directory containing the file which is the iso, you'd use something like: sudo dd if=ssd-drive-update-firmware.iso of=/dev/sdh [04:06] where sdh is the right drive for my flash? [04:06] ( but of course substituting as according to your individual system ) [04:07] jjbuggle: When you stick a USB drive in, it will use the next available letter available on your specific setup. So probably not sdh, but the value can be found by the command mentioned: dmesg|tail [04:08] Bashing-om: I kind of see why this thing is fouled up. It wants to remove libreoffice-common but that conflicts with a bunch of other packages that require it. [04:09] MarkB2: Looks to me like we can start down the rabbit hole or try and whole sale Purge libreoffic. [04:09] genii: heh, I've never dd'd before. Makes me nervous, but it's done. Time to reboot. Hope it works [04:09] I'm game for the purge. Once the dust settles, I'll drop that ppa out of there and go direct. [04:10] jjbuggle: So for instance, just now I plugged a USB stick in here and part of the output of: dmesg|tail was: [1666927.952523] sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] 489062400 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/233 GiB) [04:10] ...and they left [04:11] i have ubuntu 18.04 on an htpc [04:11] MarkB2: Then the sledge hammer; try: ' sudo dpkg -P libreoffice ' [04:11] (a nuc) [04:11] it started failing to boot. [04:12] Bashing-om: I've got my hard hat on and the BFH ready. Here goes... [04:13] Bashing-om: That was one of the most anticlimatic commands I've ever typed. [04:13] it gets to the ubuntu loading screen (before the login display), stays there for few minutes, then flashes some console messge that ends with "Control-D to continue" [04:13] anything i should try short of reinstalling ubuntu? [04:13] I mean, after all this, I fully expected 30 or 40 screens of dpkg chasing down chunks of libreoffice while emitting "come here my darling..." [04:13] it has worked fine for the past year or so [04:14] Bashing-om: uh, it didn't get all of it. [04:17] Bashing-om: thank you.. that seems to have cleaned up most of the debris. How do I get rid of that libreoffice ppa ? [04:17] Argh. [04:17] MarkB2: But, did it get enough that "autoremove' will now be effective ? [04:17] AHA! Didn't try that. Lets see.. === anon is now known as Guest47606 [04:19] No, it's still got a bad case of dependency problems. [04:21] how do I remove that ppa? [04:21] I mean, manually? [04:23] * MarkB2 slaps self. [04:23] MarkB2: Look for the list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* '. [04:26] Got rid of the ppa through the Ubuntu "Software and Updates" application. [04:26] And, now, if I run sudo apt update, it comes up clean. [04:26] Except... [04:27] sudo apt autoremove spits up "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" and there is libreoffice-base... which depends on libreoffice-command and it's off to the races we go . Again. [04:28] MarkB2: Yukkie - with the PPA source removed - what now ' dpkg -P libreoffice '? [04:30] I love it: "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libreoffice which isn't installed" [04:31] aha. [04:31] dpkg-query -l libre* [04:32] some things are there, some are not. [04:32] MarkB2: ' dpkg -l | grep -i 'libre-' ? [04:33] MarkB2: dpkg -l | grep libreoffice | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P [04:33] It reports "ii libdjvulibre-text Linguistic support files for libdjvulibre". [04:34] pardon.. afk for a few minutes. [04:38] genii: it worked. Didn't need the update :P thanks! [04:40] Bashing-om: I'm just enough of an awk(1) guy to list off all the dpkg-query entries for libre* and run dpkg -P on each one. [04:41] That is on the entries with "ii" at the front of the line. [04:42] Anyone else having FREEZE-UP, HANGING after that last 19.10 update? [04:43] Appears to lock up, although mouse can move around, can't interact with any application! What gives! [04:43] having n issue with ubuntu on a VM on an old macbook. it comes up with an error saying it cant FLUSH CACHE [04:44] MarkB2: As ducasse pointed out above - the safer seek is to look for libreoffice rather than libre- . My bad as I am getting tired from long hours and my thinking is forced. [04:44] I'm trying to upgrade an Xubuntu 16.04 system to Ubuntu 18.04 using "sudo do-release-upgrade --mode=desktop" and the upgrade fails with this output: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/471030168/DpkgTerminalLog.txt I have a pre-upgrade btrfs snapshot so I can re-do the upgrade and do it cleanly if I can find a way to avoid this one problem. [04:44] Towser: virtualbox? latest from website? [04:44] jjbuggle, I believe it's the latest that macbook can run yes [04:46] I just tumbled to the idea of using "libreoffice" instead of just "libre". One of the entries was "libreadline" and that would probably caused a little havoc. [04:47] no1's aware if any freezing-up issues after last update? [04:48] or different bootup actions since last 19.10 update? [04:48] RadSurfer: You are the 1st I have seen with a update/freezing/19.10 issue. [04:49] Jordan_U_: fwiw, i think the error is saying that you are missing perl [04:50] does your 16.04 have perl installed? [04:50] seems to happen more when firefox is running also [04:51] but something is not right since that last 19.10 update [04:51] I'm not sure how to fix this error, it takes a while to boot then comes up with that [04:51] only hexchat running right now... we're see if this can go 10 minutes without hanging! [04:52] Bashing-om: Ran the dpkg -P package_name where package_name had an ii at the front of it at the dpkg-query . [04:53] But was still getting a pile of insanity on an update. [04:53] THEN ran sudo apt autoclean. [04:53] That blew a whole load of packages out the door. [04:54] But autoremove still fails miserably. [04:55] Towser: I'm guessing that your error means that for whatever reason, virtualbox has decided to lock your disks. Some kind of error has happened and now vbox won't write to your disks anymore [04:56] jjbuggle: It does. [04:56] it's weird because it's a fresh install [04:56] MarkB2: Just ran across a similar issue on launchpad: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-core libreoffice-common python3-uno - - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+question/689517 . [04:58] jjbuggle: It also has the package perl-modules-5.22 which contains the file /usr/share/perl/5.22.1/PerlIO.pm . [04:58] Jordan_U_: maybe the perl dependency for doc-base is messed up. Like it needs one of the pre-depends kind of things [04:59] yeah, but above, it is installing perl 5.26 [04:59] going to run firefox, let's see if this starts to freeze again! (if U don't hear from me) [05:00] Jordan_U_: if it really is a dependency issue, i think you would need to file a bug [05:00] I'm just kind of speculating [05:00] Bashing-om:"dpkg: error: --purge needs a valid package name but '-' is not. [05:01] So those last two dashes aren't required? [05:01] so like, pearl 5.22 is removed, but perl 5.26 isn't fully setup, so doc-base fails because at install time, there is no fully setup perl [05:02] Well... it did .. something. [05:02] MarkB2: Yeah -- those two dashes were inapproipriate :( seperators only to denote a source. [05:02] jjbuggle: Ahh, good catch. Since "Unpacking perl-modules-5.26 (5.26.1-6ubuntu0.3)" appears much earlier, I wonder if the problem is that perl 5.22 is still being invoked somehow despite having been replaced. [05:03] yeah, that's what I'm thinking. [05:03] I do NOT see firefox listed in the Software app? is that normal? [05:04] installed software app... [05:04] jjbuggle: I can't think of a way to fix that properly, though I can think of a few improper ways to cludge it. I wonder why more people aren't hitting this problem during upgrade. [05:05] I did find 2 entries, deleted both of them. [05:05] Anything I can check I wonder? [05:06] jjbuggle: I may try removing doc-base before the upgrade then re-installing it afterward. The only dependencies seem to be xubuntu-core and (recusively) xubuntu-desktop. [05:06] Going to re-start and see how it behaves. [05:06] Jordan_U_: the proper fix would be to file a bug against doc-base, and let the devs push a fix. This kind of thing would happen if maybe they updated doc-base in some way, but didn't test the 16.04->18.04 upgrade..... [05:06] yeah, maybe that would work [05:09] jjbuggle: I have filed a bug report. I'll add more information to it now that we have a good guess as to the problem. Thank you! [05:09] i cannot believe [05:09] hey hey [05:09] that Freenode did not send an official acknowledgement of coronavirus [05:09] not 1 global message about staying away from channels where theres global grouping [05:09] theres over 269 people in this channel right now [05:09] thats not social distancing [05:10] What is the PROPER way to install Firefox-ESR please? [05:11] Bashing-om: alright... am down to just ONE dependency: libreoffice-lightproof-ru-ru . [05:12] It depends on two other packages, neither of which are installed. [05:13] RadSurfer: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa add with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/ppa then update, install package named firefox-esr [05:14] irony is, I have NO browser presently! [05:15] RadSurfer: Then just issue the command given above [05:15] is there a way to install firefox via Terminal? [05:15] I got you. [05:16] MarkB2: checking :) [05:16] RadSurfer: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-esr ....should do it [05:17] Thank you. [05:17] rad Glad to assist [05:17] Just hope it stops this FREEZE-UP [05:18] Jordan_U_: yw, gl! [05:20] MarkB2: Nope - can not confirm as https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libreoffice-lightproof-ru-ru only list libreoffice-core and python3-uno as dependencies. [05:21] Here goes nothing... launching ESR (crosses-fingers)... [05:22] odd how under Linux, things can freeze-up, yet mouse moves just fine ;) [05:22] Yeah, those are the two dependencies. I've almost got that lightproof out... but dpkg is complaining as it errors out when trying to remove a file that doesn't exist. Almost have it... [05:23] (waiting 10 full minutes ... then my next text, wish me luck ) [05:25] Bashing-om: It ... looks like the problem is over. [05:25] I think. [05:26] That last was dumb. [05:26] dpkg was erroring out because it wanted to remove a file... but the path to that file didn't exist. === JanC is now known as Guest71318 [05:28] I wonder if there is something between dpkg and apt-get that performs something of a .."consistency" check over installed packages. [05:28] MarkB2: ' sudo apt --purge autoremove ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C ' run clean ? [05:29] That looks about as dangerous as rm -rf / . [05:30] MarkB2: As long as the package manager is in a some what sane state -- all safe :P Else the package manager will scream. [05:30] all clean. wow. [05:31] MarkB2: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' shows a happy state ? [05:32] A full upgrade?? [05:33] MarkB2: Yeah will deal with things that a "update' can not deal with. [05:33] Oh, that looks like such a nifty thing to do that I'm going to do it right now. :-) [05:33] Clean as a whistle. [05:34] we're still here? [05:34] MarkB2: By golly - I think we dood it then :P [05:34] Amusing. I think the drive is about 300M lighter . [05:34] We'll hope this helped whatever was going on... [05:35] What was "going on" was a couple ?hours? ago I ran sudo apt update followed by sudo apt upgrade and something from a libreoffice ppa snuck in and raised havoc [05:36] I remember seeing a Microsoft-sponsored update to their C# package and had to restrain myself from playing with the keyboard. [05:37] The microsoft emitted package had some oddball stuff that had apt hanging from a tree and twisting in the wind. [05:37] Two days later MS dumped something out that fixed everything. [05:38] You can just see it. Jack drags Ted to Robert's office: "Ted, you wanna tell Robert what just happened>" [05:39] But... it's all cleaned up (I hope). [05:42] I've been complaining about broken pipes for a while now but my doctor said he's busy. You believe that? [05:42] Stopping now. [05:43] Sorry. [05:43] Bashing-om: Add another "1" to the Win column. Thank you. [05:44] Make that a 5. :-) [05:46] MarkB2: ducasse Allows me to add gold stars to the status board :P [05:47] I hear gold is going up [05:56] Yeah... and those that are worth their weight in gold... need more of 'em in this world. [05:58] To melt [06:13] trying to boot live and getting a lot of SQUASHFS errors [06:16] mainly errors that it can't read things [06:20] towser: Most likely bad media then. [06:21] maybe the iso is bad? [06:21] towser: You can run the self check at boot to be sure. Also be sure to check the sha256sum of the iso. [06:22] ok how do I do that? [06:24] towser: In a terminal run "sha256sum /path/to/file.iso". [06:25] the problem is the live cd gives thoes errors on boot [06:26] so I cant run a terminal [06:26] towser: What operating system do you have available to check the iso file? Is this really a CD or did you write the iso to a USB drive? [06:28] it's an iso on the hard drive trying to run in virtualbox. host is a old macbook [06:28] Things are very sluggish again! This seems to be an intermittent problem for me. But it lasted this long. [06:29] my last message was about an hour ago. [06:29] towser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Mac_OS_X [06:30] Jordan_U: does that count for a vm? [06:30] towser: You should first check the md5sum of the iso file on the host. [06:33] guys need help with thunderbird [06:34] no option of downloading headers only in this version [06:34] how to download headers only? [06:39] WHAT ARE some alternative browswers for Ubuntu other than ff? [06:42] pity if even ff-esr is going downhill so rapidly [06:43] RadSurfer, Chromium. [06:43] LOL yeah right. [06:44] can't find md5 for 18.04.1 [06:44] Brave acted really weird on this PC too [06:44] but firefox was relatively stable before this last update [06:49] no md5 for 18.04.1 on website only 18.04.4 which doesnt match [06:52] or do I need to get a new ubuntu iso? [06:55] RadSurfer: i just downloaded chrome from the website and installed it [07:05] ubuntu 18.04 LTS, 19.0 or 16.04.6 LTS? which do I get? [07:05] towser: for what purpose? [07:07] for a VM of ubuntu? my last iso was having issues as you may know [07:07] towser: 19 [07:08] towser: yeah I recognized your nick but couldn't quite place why [07:09] towser: What sum did you get? [07:10] towser: Fun thing about hashes is that for anything even remotely popular you can just google the hash. If there are no results, your image is corrupt. [07:10] I can't believe I changed my nick from md5sum so I'm less irrelevant and now all of a sudden... === slackerx__ is now known as slackerx [07:11] About 2 or 3 days ago even [07:13] GoingViral: I use this nick in a few places [07:13] towser: pretty sure it may have been the general Linux channel because I spend most of my time there. Not sure though. [07:14] would 64 bit desktop image work with a vm or do i need to get a different one? [07:15] towser: assuming you have a 64 bit host (which you *probably* do) then 64 is preferred [07:16] I dont know if late 2007 macbook is 64 bit [07:16] Uhhhh probably, I'll find out [07:16] And that's how I know you [07:17] I'm using the MBP 2015 [07:18] towser: yeah it's 64 [07:19] ok ill get the 19.10 64 bit image [07:19] Dual core, wow. I forgot what 2007 was like lol [07:19] hopefully it works [07:20] and yes a bit of a potatoe (is using irc on it now) [07:21] towser: before you go too far, maybe xubuntu or lubuntu would be better [07:21] Lighter graphical environment over the standard [07:22] I personally would recommend xubuntu, but that's what is familiar to me [07:22] (more familiar the lxde I mean) [07:22] Than* [07:24]