[01:20] <Dekkard> you know youre bored when you do vimtutor
[01:46] <cmaloney> heh
[15:24] <jrwren> cmaloney: what is your goodreads? https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/75152096-jrwren
[16:01] <cmaloney> Just followed, though I'm not using it anymore.
[16:31] <jrwren> oh, you aren't.
[16:47] <cmaloney> yeah, I'm likely to blog more about a book
[16:48] <cmaloney> I looked at Library Thing and while I liked it I'm not sure I'm going to track my books on there.
[19:28] <Dekkard> ok... vimtutor is 25 to 30 minutes..ForWhom???
[19:31] <Dekkard> ahh for someone who already knows vi
[22:38] <mrgoodcat> Dekkard: i've done it a few times and I always get some small thing that i either didn't know, forgot, or didn't completely internalize
[22:40] <Dekkard> heh
[22:40] <Dekkard> im doing it becayse i am bored, and of course so i can maybe edit some .rc files when X fails
[22:42] <Dekkard> i mean... I donteven work in IT... so its all sort of hobbyish, besides the fact that Ive been using the linux since win98
[22:42] <Dekkard> windows makes me feel inconvenienced
[22:47] <Scary_Guy> I assume that's why most of us are here.  I've heard it like Mac was the Rolls Royce of PC.  You get it and everything is taken care of for you but you have no control and need to go to the dealership for everything.  Linux is the hotrod you work on yourself.  I guess now Windows is just an uber since you don't really own it and it's probably selling your data on top of it.
[22:48] <Dekkard> its worse..like you are trying to do a report, and it decides to do a 45 minute update without prompting you
[22:48] <Dekkard> or it prompts you with little help cards like clippy
[22:49] <Dekkard> it is maddening
[22:49] <Dekkard> the rules: My machine, My way
[22:50] <Dekkard> i dont do much as far as customizing anymore.. I just want to install it, and get to work.
[22:52] <Scary_Guy> Look up win10privacy.  You can shut most of that off with a nice GUI that tells you what will break if you do.  Also, LTSB-N is nice as well.  I recommend both.
[22:53] <Scary_Guy> Well, I recommend both for those that are forced to deal with Window$.
[22:55] <Dekkard> will keep in mind.. but the laptop i have for work is pretty locked down as is.. no idea about how much telemetry it sending
[22:56] <Scary_Guy> Unless it's been neutered by IT then the answer is "all of it"
[22:56] <Dekkard> lol
[22:57] <Scary_Guy> At least win10privacy doesn't require an install, you can also do everything via CMD/PS commands
[22:58] <Dekkard> once its reactivate ill give that a shot.. since I'm on furlough i have no reason to even boot the thing
[22:59] <Dekkard>  I was told that if I boot now, IT sent some command to kill it untill we are bck to work
[22:59] <Scary_Guy> Well don't connect it to the internet then :P
[22:59] <Dekkard> fo sho
[23:00] <Dekkard> im playing on this HP pavillion all in one..like 30" screen, amd quad core(old)
[23:01] <Scary_Guy> https://github.com/MichiMunich/Windows10-Privacy there's a script or you can run everything manually too.
[23:01] <Dekkard> we got it when my father in law passed.. no one knew the password to get in, so..quick inspection off a usb drive, and wiped it
[23:02] <Dekkard> checking that link now
[23:03] <Dekkard> bookmarked
[23:03] <Dekkard> did you hang in MDLUG ?
[23:03] <Scary_Guy> No, but I frequent USLUG
[23:03] <Scary_Guy> (irc, not irl)
[23:04] <Dekkard> das ist auf Deutch??
[23:05] <Scary_Guy> Nein
[23:05] <Dekkard> https://blog.doenselmann.com/windows-10-datenschutz-mit-powershell-erhoehen/
[23:05] <Scary_Guy> I do listen to a lot of German Industrial music though
[23:05] <Dekkard> ja
[23:07] <Scary_Guy> Oh, yeah.  https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ also has a Deutsch version as well
[23:08] <Dekkard> i do like the idea of totally messing with corporate IT..
[23:09] <Dekkard> I did what??? Oh no.. I'm just a Chef!!
[23:10] <Scary_Guy> https://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/ this looks like a pretty good breakdown of similar apps as well.
[23:11] <Dekkard> yeah.. administrator privvys.. that is a problem
[23:12] <Scary_Guy> Well you can do a ton without those too, sometimes.  It depends on how well it's locked down.
[23:13] <Dekkard> roger that
[23:13] <Scary_Guy> I remember the days of being in school and getting through to things using Help.  That was fun.
[23:14] <Dekkard> i remember when lots of stuff was fun.
[23:14] <Dekkard> When I was in school, computers used punch cards
[23:14] <Scary_Guy> Wow
[23:15] <Dekkard> yeah.. long time ago
[23:16] <Dekkard> i worked as a courier for a summer, i would take disk drive platters from one plant to another.. because No Internet
[23:16] <Dekkard> they were as big as s dinner plate, and held KBs of data
[23:18] <Dekkard> its come a long way in not so very much time..
[23:18] <Scary_Guy> I saw one hanging on the wall in OakTec
[23:18] <Dekkard> heh
[23:20] <Dekkard> bbiaf
[23:22] <Scary_Guy> https://pavel-krivanek.github.io/pdp11/ enjoy
[23:27] <Scary_Guy> http://toyvax.glendale.ca.us/~vance/vaxbar.html here have this too