[00:06] <tugapower> hi guys
[00:07] <tugapower> just installed kubuntu 20.04 , neofetch shows ubuntu, know issue ?
[00:13] <tugapower> the lsb-release and os-release are all setup to Ubuntu
[00:18] <Unit193> It's still the Ubuntu core, Kubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu, not a deriv or fork.
[00:18] <Unit193> Same repos, everything.
[00:20] <tugapower> Unit193: yes, but it should show Kubuntu
[00:20] <Unit193> I mean, not really.  If it's the same repos, /etc/os-release can't have different contents.
[00:22] <tugapower> if this was ubuntu and then install KDE on top, would be normal no show Ubuntu, when you use Kubuntu would expect the info on the OS is Kubuntu
[00:24] <oerheks> hostnamectl status
[00:25] <oerheks> it is ubuntu, by design
[00:45] <valorie> tugapower: for awhile we tried to differentiate, but there seemed no point
[00:45] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.18.3 on Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) powered by Linux 5.3.0-7642-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3435-3494/3800 MHz, RAM: 31377/32067 MB, Storage: 321/1144 GB, 319 procs, 120.81h up
[00:45] <valorie> for instance, sysinfo shows that I'm running KDE Plasma
[00:46] <valorie> in Ubuntu
[00:46] <valorie> which is exactly what we provide
[00:49] <tugapower> ok
[00:49] <tugapower> there is har of change os-release to Kubutu ?
[00:49] <tugapower> *harm
[00:55] <valorie> the harm was forking and maintaining the fork
[00:55] <valorie> for no benefit
[00:56] <valorie> KDE software does not constitute an "os"
[00:56] <valorie> we all release simultaneously, so it isn't a separate release
[00:57] <valorie> neon is different; it is not a flavor of Ubuntu; it's based on the stable LTS of ubuntu with fresh KDE software on top
[00:59] <monera> ola
[01:00] <monera> esta aqui alguem tuga?
[01:13] <tugapower> valorie: makes sense
[01:14] <tugapower> valorie: about numlock? Tick the option on input and devices, but it does nothing
[01:14] <tugapower> when reboot numlock its off
[01:37] <valorie> tugapower: you might check to see if some permissions are messed in your $home
[01:38] <valorie> sounds like config is not being properly saved
[01:40] <tugapower> valorie: how ?
[01:40] <tugapower> last time used KDE was about 8 years back if not mistaken :D
[01:42] <tugapower> over the input devices the setting its ticked, even after reboot.
[04:41] <opt41n> when will 20.04 come out?
[05:59] <lordievader> Good morning
 Hi .. I'm new to Kubuntu .. I was using default Ubuntu Gnome .. … In Kubuntu appindicator (System tray icon) not showing in the task bar like VlC and steam icon not showing .. any help ??☺️☺️
 ?
 There is a little arrow just beside where the time is that holds theoverflow. Is it there?
 @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, Yes it's showing inside shose arrow
 ◀️ Looks like this.
 🔼 Or like this.
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iS2kKh3i/file_26298.jpg After rebooting.. it's now showing there when I open the Status & Notification tab .. can I configure those to show on the system tray rather than on the tab ?
 If you right click it, there's an options menu.
 Usually I just add it to favorites in the menu. Do you mean like windows where you can add favorites to the taskbar?
 @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, You can totally do that on KDE, too...  There's an optional replacement taskbar that acts almost ezzactly like the Win7 one.
 @masonbee-M> <Terminator_99, I mean to say that when I open apps like VLC it icon showing in that arrow tab .. I want then to show besides those WiFi and battery icon
 @Terminator_99, That's in the "System Tray Settings" where you can configure that.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/vz0WB3gC/file_26299.jpg I'm new to KDE so I'm not understanding those settings
 On the left, there's an "Entries" icon.
 That's where you can set apps with tray icons to do the thing you want...
 @blooalien, Wow that just worked... Thanks ☺️☺️ it was really helpful ✌️
 @Terminator_99, NP.  One thing I've loved about KDE since the beginning is that it's always been the most configurable desktop environment I've used on any operating system.  You can customize every detail of it however works best for you.  😁
 @blooalien, Yes that's why I'm now learning KDE .. and I hate gnome .. that's why I chose Kubuntu 🤠
 @Terminator_99, I'm also a fan of the Qt widget/GUI system, so another bonus to KDE for me.  👽
 @blooalien, Ya 😋
[09:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[09:53] <Metamorphosis> o/
[09:54] <BluesKaj> \o
[09:55] <Metamorphosis> BluesKaj Have you tested Kubuntu 20.04? I wanted to know how stable it is, as I always wait for the first bug fix release (eg 18.04.1) to upgrade.
 @Metamorphosis, Same here .. I also wait till the .1 release
[09:58] <BluesKaj> Metamorphosis, I'm testing Focal as we speak and have been for several months, a few small bugs over the last few months and one severe libc6 bug about amonth ago which is now resolved. It looks quite stable atm tho.
 And never had any major issues with Ubuntu
[09:59] <Metamorphosis> Terminator_99 coming from a SUSE/CentOS background I really prefer stability rather than bleeding edge software.
[10:00] <Metamorphosis> BluesKaj It's good to hear that. Thanks.
[10:00] <BluesKaj> 'welcome Metamorphosis
 @Metamorphosis, Same.. I don't need absolute latest packages .. I just want stability and usability
[10:01] <Metamorphosis> https://img.susepaste.org/images/d58d273b.png
[10:03] <Metamorphosis> I was comparing my two distros (Kubuntu 18.04.4 and openSUSE 15.1) on my machine. I found that Kubuntu uses a newer kernel and KDE while SUSE uses the latest LTS kernel while being slightly newer in terms of QT version and toolkit.
 @Metamorphosis, 4.12 kernel in SUSE it's too old
 Yaa
[10:04] <BluesKaj> newest isn't necessarily the best or stable
 I'm currently on Kubuntu 19.10 it's as stable as 18.04.4
[10:04] <Metamorphosis> Terminator_99 Whoever likes to have a newer Kernel could use openSUSE tumbleweed. Kubuntu's kernel is stable to me though.
 @BluesKaj, That depends... There might be bug fixes in newer packages.. or might break
 @Metamorphosis, Yaa that's a rolling release like Arch/Manjaro
[10:06] <BluesKaj> !newest | Terminator_99
 @ubottu, Ya
[10:25] <BluesKaj> ubottu
[10:25] <BluesKaj> is a bot
[10:26] <Unit193> ubottu is a bot
 ubottu = SkyNet
[10:28] <BluesKaj> wish these telegram users woukd use a real irc client
[10:28] <BluesKaj> would
 @BluesKaj, Hey, I have one or two of those handy.  I'm just already here in the Telegram channel.  Seems silly to open up another entirely separate chat app for just the one channel.
[10:30] <BluesKaj> sikky for you perhaps, not for me
[10:30] <BluesKaj> \silly
 I use whatever is to hand
[10:31] <RikMills> sometimes is is just a matter of what app is in the foreground!
[10:32] <Metamorphosis> Telegram has too many issues, and recently it's been doing strange practices, like banishing users from certain countries (Iran, Blarus, Venezuela etc) from typing in group chats.
[10:32] <RikMills-M> like that
[10:32] <Unit193> We need more RikMills.
 @RikMills, Exactly this.  I'd feel the same if I was busy in an IRC client in a buncha channels and one channel had a Telegram option.  Why open Telegram for just that one when I'm already in it in IRC?
[10:44] <tugapower> any ideas to make numlock on by default at boot ?
[10:44] <tugapower> the option on input devices makes no difference, its on over there but at boot numlock on keybiard its always off. 20.04
[10:48] <Metamorphosis> tugapower I found the issue to be rather bios/manufacturer related as I have the same issue in Windows 10, Kubuntu and SUSE.
[10:50] <keithzg-M> Yeah I know on my desktop here at home the option is on the motherboard firmware menu, set before it even thinks about loading an OS.
[10:50] <tugapower> Metamorphosis: my BIOS does not have option relative to keyboard, my previous distro it worked fine ( Mint )
[10:51] <BluesKaj> tugapower, I'm on 20.04 as well, bit no issue with numberlock, perhaps your choice of KB model is the problem
[10:52] <tugapower> its a laptop, dont have to many keyboards to choice :D
[10:57] <BluesKaj> perhaps the default choice is incorrect, if that's what you're using
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cF3Sv03Y/file_26308.jpg What is compositor ? It's set to OpenGL 2.0 by default... @blooalien
 I don't have dedicated graphics.. have Intel HD 620
 @Terminator_99, Compositor is the part that uses your 3D graphics capability to do all the fancy desktop effects.
 @blooalien, Okay... Should I choose OpenGL 3.1 ? What's your setting?
[11:39] <tugapower> This fixed the issue: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_numlock_on_bootup#SDDM
[11:39] <tugapower> manual settings that value, it works now, it was empty the file, imput devices should write this value when activating over there, no ?
[11:40] <tugapower> now system boots with numlock ON :)
 @Terminator_99, Depends on what your graphic hardware supports.
 Because when the system is booting up after the Kubuntu logo and between the login screen there are some text showing
 @blooalien, It supports 4.5
 @Terminator_99, Do you have same thing while shuting dow or starting the pc ?
 @Terminator_99, Should totally be able to set it to 3.1 if you want then.  Shouldn't hurt a thing.
 @Terminator_99, @blooalien
 @Terminator_99, That's generally no big deal unless the text contains error messages.  If it does, then you want to Google them and find out what caused 'em and decide if they're something you need to fix.
 @blooalien, It shows 2-3 lines of ACPI error
 9/10 times
 That's power management related (ACPI).  You prolly wanna Google the exact error message and see if it's anything you should be tryin'a fix or not.
 @blooalien, Okay.. thanks 😊
[12:15] <tugapower> this getting wird and more wird, how to have acess to hard drive ? Formating a partition to use as storage, but then cannot write to that partition, any tip ?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> unmounted?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> sorry but have to ask
[12:22] <tugapower> BluesKaj: no, its mounted but owner its root after formating
[12:25] <BluesKaj> afaik one needs to unmount a partition in order to write to it
[12:25] <tugapower> ?
[12:26] <tugapower> if unmount the partition how will write after to that partition ?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> This is needed here because it would be bad if you overwrote the partition while it is still mounted and possibly accessed by any application. You'd get errors
[12:28] <tugapower> BluesKaj:  /dev/nvme0n1p3 on /media/tugapower/RomBuild type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uhelper=udisks2)
[12:29] <tugapower> it says rw, but dolphin cannot write
[12:29] <tugapower> open the partition, try to create a file, it grayed in Dolphin all options
[12:29] <tugapower> when check the properties, it says owner its root
[12:39] <Dragnslcr> Yes, the top directory of a new partition is normally owned by root
[12:39] <Dragnslcr> There's no way the system could know what other user should be the owner
[12:40] <tugapower> so, how to use that partition ?
[12:40] <tugapower> if cannot write to that partition ?
[12:42] <tugapower> think you guys are not getting well my issue, have 2 disks on my laptop, one with kubunto, the other have a small partiition of 100Gb to use as data storage, formated to ext4, and the system dont let me copy files to that partition
[12:43] <BluesKaj> tugapower, do you have a fstab entry for that disk
[12:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:44] <tugapower> it should have
[12:44] <tugapower> because ticked to mount at boot
[12:44] <tugapower> over the disk manager
[12:45] <tugapower> its not on fstab
[12:46] <tugapower> gonna add manually
[12:46] <tugapower> and reboot to see if it fixes
[12:46] <BluesKaj> right
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> You can always copy files to the partition as root
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> I'm pretty sure you can also change the owner of the top directory
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Or you can create directories on the partition and change the owner of those directories
[12:49] <Dragnslcr> Or you can change the permissions on the top directory to make it globally writable
[12:49] <tugapower> Dragnslcr: its not common sense
[12:49] <tugapower> This is a issue, but seems reporting issues its not a good thing
[12:50] <tugapower> Been using linux over the past 15 years, first time such thing happen to me ( the disk issue )
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I have an outboard drive, but it's not owned by root
[12:52] <tugapower> its the same you plug a external disk and you cannot use only if you use root, does not make sense
[12:53] <BluesKaj> set it up in properties to share
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> If it's in fstab, you can add the user option
[13:10] <tugapower> no go for fstab also
[13:10] <tugapower> ended using sudo chown username:username /media/mountpoint
[13:11] <tugapower> but this is not normal at all
[13:11] <tugapower> if you format a partition, the expect behabiour its you will be hable to use it
[13:11] <tugapower> With out using root obiously
[13:22] <BluesKaj> tugapower, was there an OS on that drive previously? and if so are all the files wiped ?
[13:26] <tugapower> BluesKaj: a OS no, it was used as data storage prior on Mint, even if it was files, the formating went good, no files lefted, even deleted the partition prior to formated
[13:28] <BluesKaj> did you blank the whole drive
[13:29] <BluesKaj> no need for a separate partition if you blanked the drive and formatted it to ext4
[13:30] <tugapower> BluesKaj: cannot blank, the disk have Windows
[13:31] <BluesKaj> heh. ok that's why, looks like Windows owns the whole disk
[13:31] <tugapower> wird, on mint such thing dont happen
[13:36] <tugapower> and why would windows have the whole disk ? disk its GPT, partition its ext4, last time checked windows does not use ext4 stuff :D
[13:36] <BluesKaj> windows doesn
[13:36] <BluesKaj> tt see ext4.
[13:37] <tugapower> even more
[13:37] <tugapower> dolphin can use the windows partition it self
[13:37] <tugapower> can write to the partition
[13:38] <BluesKaj> anyway, gotta go for 10 mins or so, power utlity is here to do some switching...bbl
[13:39] <tugapower> tested prior to change the new partition owner to my user
[13:39] <mind_sage> hi everyone
[13:43] <mind_sage> ...hello?
[13:58] <tugapower> mind_sage: hi
[13:59] <tugapower> fdp
[13:59] <tugapower> wrong typo
 Anyone using #numlockx package in Kubuntu?
[15:35] <viewer|67> Hi, recently I upgrade my Kubuntu but to do it, auto delete Clementine between others apps. Someone know why? Sorry for my english.
[15:42] <Metamorphosis> viewer |67 try this: sudo apt-get install clementine
[15:43] <viewer|67> yes, I re install it, but I wanna know why the upgrade delete this and other programs.
[15:44] <Metamorphosis> I'd never experienced such thing. Even when I moved from Gnome to KDE all of my Gnome apps were retained and present.
[15:45] <genii> If you jumped versions of *buntu it will usually disable any PPAs first and revert back to using stock repositories. This is so it doesn't get caught in some dependency hell by outside libraries
[15:47] <viewer|67> I dont upgrade the system, just upgrade from the update checker.
[15:48] <viewer|67> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c488040e8144f04ea1918b1b28f722e0/WhatsApp%20Image%202020-03-30%20at%2012.25.22.jpeg
[15:49] <viewer|67> Is not a problema, but I am surprised and wanna know if this apps are dangerous or something. I dont think so, but....
[16:16] <BluesKaj> it's called the package manager
 Can't set up my Google account with kontacts and kmail. Any help?
 Are you on 18.04?
[17:57] <mohamed_> hello
[20:43] <troozers> Hi Gurus, having a problem with kubuntu on a touchscreen all-in-one (intel i915 integrated graphics)... it boots up but shows the screen essentially ripped into three (like a slightly detuned TV).... if I set "nomodeset" within GRUB it works ok.  Is there a better solution?
[20:45] <sigNeon> what driver are you using for your GPU?
[20:46] <troozers> two tics, just rebooting the box following a update
[20:51] <troozers> xserver-xorg-video-intel (i9150
[20:52] <troozers> lsmod = i915
[20:55] <sigNeon> have you ran the kubuntu driver app?
[20:55] <sigNeon> driver manager
[20:56] <troozers> yep, didn't find anything
[20:56] <troozers> is there a cli version of that command I can run again?
[20:58] <sigNeon> Search Results
[20:58] <sigNeon> Web results
[20:58] <sigNeon>  
[20:58] <sigNeon> kubuntu-driver-manager
[20:58] <sigNeon> ??
[20:58] <sigNeon> maybe that?
[21:00] <troozers> nope, not displaying any drivers that i need to install
[21:04] <troozers> (ubuntu-drivers devices)
[22:18] <xubuntu> hi