[02:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:14] <guiverc> (belated) g'day lotuspsychje , if you right-click show.applications and you are offered "Dash to Dock Settings", wouldn't you expect it to run?  (not error saying it can't run gnome-shell-extension-prefs error); recall I'm not a regular gnome user (20.04 daily live)
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: have the same bug as you, can reproduce i will affect it
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> maybe its a new feature they work on?
[07:36] <guiverc> i filed it. last listed in #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> cause that green 'extensions' icon seems to be vanished?
[07:37] <guiverc> 1869662
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> affected & confirmed
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: can you drag n drop/move icons on the dock?
[07:42] <guiverc> not currently, i don't have a menu (different bug), so my 'live' session has no menus...
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> oh wow
[07:43] <guiverc> i can change order of icons on dock (if that's what you're asking, cannot use show.applications unless I reboot
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> weird, i cant drag or move icons here
[07:44] <guiverc> the bug you posted about yesterday; apport-collect done by OP, I confirmed that; which results in loss of menus..
[07:44] <guiverc> (posted about to me)
[07:45] <guiverc> & thanks for notification 
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> bug #1869650 ?
[07:48] <guiverc> nah 1869571   (buggy day for me on gnome, I'm supposed to be working on lubuntu)
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> ah
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> bug #1869571
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> gonan try to reinstall dock
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> no dice
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: testing a box with lubuntu 20.04
[09:19] <guiverc> :)
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: did they remove the 'minimal' option?
[09:24] <guiverc> I think that was an option back in 18.04 (with ubiquity), I don't think it's been there from 18.10 onwards (calamares installer)
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> i see
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> hmm getting a failed partitioning error
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> same as yours bug #1854559
[09:26] <guiverc> :(   hold on... 
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> non uefi machine and tryed erase disk and install lubuntu
[09:29] <guiverc> please file a new bug, mention it looks like the bug you found.. we can mark duplicate if necessary; but we thought that was fixed (leok, me were no longer were having it..)
[09:29] <guiverc> lotuspsychje, ^
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: maybe i got the wrong iso?
[09:30] <guiverc> it'll be evident once filed anyway... I'd still file & look there
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> took it from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[09:31] <guiverc> my advice is file, we'll sort it once from the filed report.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> ok
[09:34] <guiverc> thanks lotuspsychje :)
[09:39] <guiverc> lotuspsychje, if you've the time, I can provide something that will provide extra detail for us  
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: bug #1869696
[09:45] <guiverc> thanks lotuspsychje 
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> np guiverc 
[09:46] <guiverc> if install was quick, a reboot & running installer with verbose information gives us more info..  
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: like launching calamares from terminal?
[09:54] <guiverc> yep, with `sudo -E calamares -d` which will cause a verbose log to be created in ~/.cache/calamares/session.log  (which can be uploaded to your bug report please),  and THANK YOU !
[09:55] <guiverc> (the reboot was because I've had something different without it, we've also had a user report it worked with verbose enabled; if so report that too please)
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> oh, i didnt reboot it yet, that verbose mode DOES install lol
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> lemme reboot holdon
[09:57] <guiverc> :|   ?????   it should be the same (though issue is timing, the verbose mode must slow it down just enough...
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> verbose mode installing lol
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: rebooting and using sudo -E calamares -d also installs
[10:04] <guiverc> please add the session.log anyway.. noting that it installed fine with command I provided...  it does highlight our 'fix' wasn't as great as we hoped though!  (and is timing issue again I suspect)
[10:04] <guiverc> and THANK YOU lotuspsychje
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: should i wait the setup finish before uploading session.log?
[10:05] <guiverc> yes please..   
[10:06] <guiverc> (as in wait)
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ok, lunch first
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> back in a jippy :p
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: commented & attached session.log
[10:38] <guiverc> thanks you heaps lotuspsychje :)
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> guiverc: in ubuntu there's an automatic window asking to install additional language pack, you know where that pops on lxqt now?
[11:27] <guiverc> sorry I'm no help there, only speaking english I've never looked or needed to look/know..
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> kk np
[17:17] <psymin> this might not be appropriate to mention here since it is minor and relates to 3rd party debs.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V3J784f5Wq/  Minecraft.deb complains about libpango1.0-0 missing, but does function.  An apt --fix-broken install removes minecraft-launcher.
[17:19] <mason> psymin: That looks like it might be a typo in their package. I see libpango-1.0-0 in Bionic, but they're talking about libpango1.0-0
[17:34] <isemenov> hi all
[17:34] <isemenov> how can I install python 3.7 in focal fossa?
[17:34] <isemenov> we have a rather hard dependency on that python version (with vtk) and we'd rather keep python 3.7 than patch vtk 
[17:35] <psymin> mason, possibly, but it is a "regression" from 18.04's behavior https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWKVBtxZ42/
[17:38] <mason> psymin: Hm, so, in Bionic libpango1.0-0 is listed as a transitional package. I'm going to guess that it's not there at all in Focal.
[17:39] <psymin> should I continue to mention things like this as I come across them?
[17:39] <mason> psymin: That said, I don't have a Focal box up at the moment to look, but I'll probably have one tonight. If it's not there as transitional, maybe you could request it.
[17:39] <mason> psymin: Might be worth opening a bug report for it since it can be addressed on the OS side.
[17:54] <psymin> isemenov, I'm new to this, but you might be able to package python 3.7 for focal.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/python3.7
[17:57] <isemenov> psymin: why is that package not built by default?
[18:18] <psymin> isemenov, I'm unable to answer most questions :)
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info libpango-1.0-0
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> this what you need psymin ?
[18:21] <psymin> I'll test
[18:21] <psymin> libpango-1.0-0 is already the newest version (1.44.7-2).
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> psymin: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[18:23] <psymin> Yep.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> psymin: we dont support those, and advice to keep your system as vanilla as possible witht he ubuntu repos
[18:26] <psymin> I understand.  My intent was to inform about a regression with a 3rd party deb (and potentially others).  I can avoid doing that if that is best.
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> psymin: perhaps some of the minecraft snaps can help you out?
[18:26] <psymin> I have it working.
[18:26] <psymin> I just want focal to work great for otheres :)
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> psymin: this looks like a great guide: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> psymin: libpango gets als pulled there without errors so it seems
[18:30] <psymin> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kJHqdpB6kZ/
[18:30] <psymin> does it?
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> psymin: but you have other ppa's already in your system that could conflict with libpango's version from the ubuntu repos?
[18:32] <psymin> currently: chrome, lutris, signal, skype, vscode
[18:32] <psymin> Next time I do a vanilla install I'll work on it more.  It "works for me" (tm) currently.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme test it
[18:34] <psymin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/+bug/1869716
[18:34] <psymin> bug just got marked as a dupe of this one :)
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> ok seems like you are right psymin 
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> im also getting the error
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> psymin: seems like we have to wait for the fix then
[18:37] <psymin> no worries, not trying to be burden, I just want 20.04 to be well received :)
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx to report this
[18:39] <psymin> looks like that breaks bitdefender and dropbox
[19:14] <mason> But... It's all about a missing transitional package. There is no mystery.
[19:16] <RikMills> the fixed package is in proposed
[19:17] <mason> RikMills: Fixed Minecraft package?
[19:17] <mason> I just added a quick note to 1869716 with some peanut gallery analysis.
[19:17] <RikMills> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/1.44.7-2ubuntu1
[19:18] <mason> Ah, good enough.
[19:19] <mason> RikMills: Added yet another note linking that.
[19:19] <mason> Wow, my whitespace is awful today.
[19:20] <mason> Assumed it was giving me an 80-column text field. It was not.
[20:35] <aliendude5300> Hi, I have a Lenovo N20 chromebook with 20.04 on it. Everything works except for sound
[20:36] <aliendude5300> It's the Intel chtmax98090 chipset. I tried the Git UCM fix from Launchpad and don't see any sound cards at all
[20:36] <aliendude5300> Did not work on 19.10 either
[20:37] <aliendude5300> Pulse audio logs show:D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM mapping: Mapping HiFi: hw:chtmax98090: sink dev InternalMic
[20:37] <aliendude5300> E: [pulseaudio] channelmap.c: Assertion 'pa_channels_valid(channels)' failed at pulse/channelmap.c:401, function pa_channel_map_init_extend(). Aborting.
[20:38] <tomreyn> i think this was meant to go here: <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1833116
[20:39] <aliendude5300> Yes, I tried that exact fix  exactly
[20:39] <aliendude5300> It did not work unfortunately
[20:42] <tomreyn> the latest comment looks like it provides a way forward
[20:43] <tomreyn> (note also the bug report is still open)
[20:43] <oerheks> indeed, further reading gives the same answers