[03:05] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tIYrjBEczE
[03:18] <cmaloney> I've seen those platters
[03:19] <cmaloney> like cake box carriers with loads of platters  in there
[15:09] <Dekkard> good morning
[15:09] <Scary_Guy> Morning
[15:10] <Dekkard> today we learn weechat
[15:10] <Dekkard> because we can
[15:12] <rick_h_> heh yea moved to that recently
[15:12] <Dekkard> next project will be to enable port forwarding on the home router to stream from vlc
[15:12] <Dekkard> i suck at networking
[15:17] <cmaloney> Weechat is what I use as well
[15:19] <Dekkard> im an old fan of BitchX and irssi.. ive heard weechat is easier
[15:27] <Dekkard> actually, I'm just old..
[15:28] <Scary_Guy> weechat gang checking in
[15:29] <Scary_Guy> ./script and /fset are your friends
[15:29]  * Dekkard taking notes
[15:29] <Scary_Guy> Also Bitlbee is nice
[15:30] <Dekkard> multi platform and multi protocols..nice
[15:30] <Scary_Guy> There's an android "client" that will connect to this via SSH too.  However I also suck at networking.
[15:31] <Scary_Guy> Yeah, though I do think Finch is cooler Bitlbee has support for more things.  OTR works great too.  Though I'm not sure which has a better lack of OMEMO support.
[15:32] <Scary_Guy> I wish there was more support for that in general, but it's a slow process.
[15:33] <Dekkard> i dont im other than on the phone..no workgroups or anything
[15:34] <Scary_Guy> Just about anything these days is more secure than standard SMS though.
[15:34] <Scary_Guy> I'm a big fan of Signal.
[15:34] <cmaloney> Yeah, I juse JuiceSSH on my phone to connect to my home machine
[15:35] <cmaloney> which runs weechat via tmux
[15:35] <Dekkard> lol..I cant imagine telling mom that she should use signal
[15:35] <cmaloney> Signal is actually one of the easier ones
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> I don't see why not, my mom does.
[15:35] <cmaloney> fear for my friends that I make use Jami. ;)
[15:36] <Scary_Guy> My dad too and he doesn't know how to copy files.
[15:36] <cmaloney> https://jami.net/
[15:36] <Dekkard> my mom is 86..she texts family only..and we know it works client to client, but the encryption requires that everyone uses ot right?
[15:37] <Scary_Guy> I've toyed with the android client.  If it's too annoying for me to use there is no hope for normal people.
[15:37] <Scary_Guy> Yes, but the plus side is it'll fall back to standard SMS if they don't.
[15:38] <Scary_Guy> Also they have a nice community and are very accepting of bug reports/suggestions/etc... from what I've seen.
[15:42] <Dekkard> wasnt jami called "ring"?
[15:42] <dzho> yes
[15:43] <dzho> I didn't find Signal too disorienting to install on the phone that runs with a google account
[15:44] <dzho> my main phone does not log into a google account persistently, though, and that is my default posture for my devices.
[15:44] <Scary_Guy> It's come a long way.  Don't even need the google anymore.
[15:44] <dzho> oh?
[15:44] <Scary_Guy> You can download the .apk directly
[15:44] <Dekkard> i have no probs with signal as far as usability, its just that most that I know are "i have nothing to hide"
[15:44] <Scary_Guy> You don't even need Play Services.
[15:45] <dzho> there's also the need to use SMS
[15:45] <Scary_Guy> It still falls back to that for non Signal contacts.
[15:45] <dzho> which, you know, if you already have SMS what's the point, at least in some people's eyes
[15:45] <dzho> well, it's not just a fallback
[15:45] <Scary_Guy> Yeah, not enough are concerned about privacy.
[15:45] <dzho> you need it to activate
[15:46] <Scary_Guy> You need a number to activate, yeah.
[15:47] <jrwren> Dekkard: i'm old too. using irssi here, don't care to change.
[15:47] <Scary_Guy> irssi is okay too, I tried it and liked this better though.
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> i started with bitchx, switched to irssi, and now i use weechat
[15:48] <Scary_Guy> I started off on mIRC
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> can confirm it is the easiest to use
[15:48] <Dekkard> jrwren:  good on yer bruh..im just so fricken bored
[15:48] <Dekkard> i actually bought a mir licence
[15:48] <Dekkard> mirc
[15:48] <Scary_Guy> This also has a Signal-CLI bridge too, but it's a pain and it's just easier to use the GUI desktop client.
[15:49] <Scary_Guy> Did you get Winzip/WinRAR too?
[15:49] <Scary_Guy> :P
[15:49] <Dekkard> lol.. nope
[15:52] <jrwren> bored?
[15:52] <Dekkard> ...way
[15:52] <jrwren> i use windows minimally. really only to play video games.
[15:53] <Dekkard> got furloughed last week..loosing my mind
[15:53] <jrwren> i started off on ircc, back when that was the only client I knew. ircc the client for ircd.
[15:53] <jrwren> ah, I've been playing LOTS of video games, even though I'm working full time.
[15:54] <jrwren> the distraction is good for ignoring the state of the world.
[15:54] <Dekkard> im doing my best to do the same
[15:55] <Dekkard> i see there is a snap for signal desktop
[15:55] <cmaloney> Heh, I've used a bunch of IRC clients, including xchat and pidgin
[15:55] <Scary_Guy> We had a small contingent on IRC at OakTech.  It was fun chatting with people in the same room over it.
[15:55] <cmaloney> along with bitchx, irssi, and others that I'm probably forgetting
[15:56] <cmaloney> Now let's talk about email clients. ;)
[15:56] <cmaloney> zmail. ;)
[15:56] <Scary_Guy> Remember when Mozilla/Firefox had a client?
[15:56] <Dekkard> any of you guys know Raphael Mudge?
[15:56] <Scary_Guy> I don't
[15:57] <Dekkard> backwhen firefox wanted to be Opera?
[15:58] <Scary_Guy> Must have missed that.  It's weird though, I've used it pretty much since Netscape Navigator.
[15:59]  * Dekkard had a netscape t-shirt
[15:59] <cmaloney> https://github.com/argv01/zmail
[15:59] <Scary_Guy> Had?  I'd have held onto that gem.
[16:00] <Dekkard> it fell to dust years ago
[16:00] <Scary_Guy> The washing machine is a cruel mistress though.
[16:00] <cmaloney> Yeah, I used the NEtscape Mail Client
[16:00] <cmaloney> t was OK
[16:00] <Dekkard> true dat
[16:00] <cmaloney> I still use Thunderbird and Mutt
[16:00] <Scary_Guy> I've got an AMD K6-II shirt that's been beat to hell.  It used to be black but is now a faded gray.
[16:01] <Dekkard> wow dude.. that was my first computer
[16:01] <Scary_Guy> It was my second, got it from a mom and pop shop that I later got my first real job at.
[16:01] <Dekkard> no name beige box
[16:01] <Dekkard> lol
[16:01] <Scary_Guy> Well, it was my third
[16:02] <Dekkard> 200 mhz
[16:02] <Scary_Guy> First was a Compudyne 386.  Second was a Packard Bell 486 that I later stuck a turbo on.
[16:03] <Scary_Guy> Turbo chips were neat, fan was literally built right onto the CPU.
[16:03] <Dekkard> so fan dies cpu goes up in a blaze
[16:03] <Scary_Guy> Pretty much, but that thing lasted for a good long while.
[16:04] <Dekkard> my second was an athlon 900
[16:04] <Dekkard> built it from parts from  place in utica
[16:05] <Dekkard> used the case from the K6
[16:07] <Scary_Guy> My fourth was a dual P3 450 Gigabyte GA6BXD that I built myself at that mom and pop shop.
[16:08] <Dekkard> wow.. seems cobalt strike has been acquired by HelpSystems
[16:10] <Dekkard> s0..once upon a time there was a mirc scripter named 'Butane
[16:11] <Dekkard> he was considered '7334
[16:12] <Scary_Guy> BOFH?
[16:12] <Scary_Guy> :P
[16:12] <Dekkard> so this guy( from royal oak) goes into the airforce.. does his time
[16:12] <Dekkard> no..
[16:12] <Dekkard> InfoSec
[16:12] <Scary_Guy> Oooh
[16:13] <Dekkard> i think he atually did some time in D.C...later wrote a pentesting tool called Armitage, after some anime
[16:14] <Dekkard> Than wrote Cobalt Strike..There are quite a few videos of its use on youtube
[16:15] <Dekkard> Its fiacinating.. just shows you how rediculous hacking is in movies etc
[16:15] <Scary_Guy> Yeah, I love that stuff
[16:16] <Dekkard> so.. its 3,500.00 per user
[16:16] <Dekkard> plus yearly renewals
[16:16] <Dekkard> and he just got bought...
[16:16] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HluANRwPyNo
[16:16] <Dekkard> Cha-Ching!!
[16:17] <Dekkard> look at the stuff on in memory evasion..
[16:17] <jrwren> cobalt strike eh? I dont' know many red team tools
[16:18] <Scary_Guy> To be fair, Cantor Dust DOES look like that hacking BS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bM3Gut1hIk
[16:18] <jrwren> looks like a great tool. I hope he got a lot of money for it.
[16:19] <Dekkard> from what I've read, there was a crack floating around and some peeps were actually using  it to do some under the table red teaming
[16:19] <Dekkard> wink wink
[16:19] <Scary_Guy> There's always a crack floating around.
[16:19] <Scary_Guy> Half the reason I'm on IRC
[16:19] <Dekkard> o_0
[16:20] <Scary_Guy> -_-
[16:21] <Scary_Guy> Also skip to 22m on that video for the pretty
[16:23] <Dekkard> very gibson
[16:23] <Dekkard> cyberspace
[16:24] <Scary_Guy> But actually useful.  Too bad it never came to be there either.  I hear bin-walk bin-glide do similar things though.  Both are on Github.
[16:27] <Dekkard> hmmm twit tv has an appearance
[16:27] <Dekkard> 2014
[16:32] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-4BFfdGufo
[16:32] <Scary_Guy> I miss TechTV
[16:33] <Scary_Guy> G4 killed that good and dead
[16:33] <Dekkard> yep
[16:33] <Dekkard> twit isnt horrible
[16:34] <Scary_Guy> It isn't, but I still miss TechTV.
[16:35] <Dekkard> https://twit.tv/shows/coding-101/episodes/29?autostart=false
[16:35] <Scary_Guy> It was nice having it on cable.
[16:35] <Scary_Guy> Though now I just want cable to die.
[16:38] <Scary_Guy> Also, as long as we're talking about old dead shows https://archive.org/details/computerchronicles
[17:13] <Dekkard> wow thta abcient
[17:13] <Dekkard> thats ancient
[17:29] <cmaloney> I never watched it in the day, but I've enjoyed watching them
[17:44] <Dekkard> leo laport's laptop looks to havean Enlightenment logo on it
[17:58] <cmaloney> I think that's the TWiT network logo
[18:01] <Dekkard> port forwarding coming up on twit..doesnt look like the same
[18:02] <Dekkard> I can see the sort of cocked small case e
[18:05] <cmaloney> If it's the thinkpad then it's a TWiT logo
[18:06] <Dekkard> right you are
[18:07] <cmaloney> It's just inside of a gear
[18:07] <Dekkard> ahhh
[21:00] <Dekkard> pong
[21:03] <rick_h_> ping?
[21:05] <Dekkard> just rtying to stay live
[21:05] <rick_h_> ugh, at that point where I'm deleting cranky tweeks
[21:05] <rick_h_> Yay Monday!
[21:14] <Dekkard> cranky tweek??
[21:15] <rick_h_> tweet
[21:15]  * rick_h_ +1 the crank
[21:16] <Dekkard> heh
[21:16] <Dekkard> btw.. ya all should check out fosstodon
[22:19] <jrwren> happy early 20.04 beta this week. are you excited?