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kdenliverHey! This may be question asked in a kdenlive forum or something, but do I have to install some ffmpeg on Ubuntu to make the proxy clips?06:38
kdenliverNever mind, I think it's already installed. Thanks, I just got the path.06:46
cupantaeHey :)  I'm trying out Ubuntu Studio for the first time and it looks really slick, but.....17:04
cupantaeJack does not work. Which is unfortunate because avoiding understanding Jack was the main reason I installed17:04
cupantaeDidn't check it from the live system. Any ideas?17:05
OvenWerksJack should just work17:06
OvenWerkshow does jack fail for you? cupantae17:06
OvenWerkscupantae: how are you running jack?17:07
cupantaeWill I show you some Qjackctl output?17:07
OvenWerksWhy are you using qjackctl instead of ubuntustudi0o-controls?17:07
OvenWerksbut sure17:07
cupantaeI've also tried Start/Restart Jack in Ubuntu Studio Controls but that does nothing and gives no output17:07
cupantaethat I can see17:07
cupantaeI can try running that from a terminal?17:08
OvenWerkssure17:08
StevenJayCohenAn output log would be a welcome addition to Studio Controls17:08
OvenWerksthere is one17:08
StevenJayCohen?17:08
StevenJayCohenchecking...17:08
cupantaeCannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory...is the first thing that comes out. It spams the same few lines over and over while USC is running17:09
OvenWerksgenerally ~/.log/autojack,log17:09
cupantaeJackShmReadWritePtr::~JackShmReadWritePtr - Init not done for -1, skipping unlock17:09
cupantaeis also possibly significant17:09
StevenJayCohenOvenWerks, ahh, with newbies in mind I was hoping for a button in Studio Controls to open the log17:09
cupantaeOvenWerks: I don't have that file but I have .log/jack/jackdbus.log17:10
OvenWerksStevenJayCohen: with the new (20.04) version there is also a debug level17:10
StevenJayCohenOvenWerks, nice!17:10
cupantaeERROR: failed to stat "/home/ubustudio/.config/jack/conf.xml", error is 2 (No such file or directory)17:11
cupantaeis the first error there17:11
OvenWerkscupantae: perhaps a screen shot of the audio tab of -controls might help17:11
cupantaeok17:11
OvenWerksThat error should not be a problem.17:11
cupantaeOK17:12
cupantaehttps://imgur.com/qNCE80R.png17:12
cupantaeThat "host on imgur" option in the PrntScr window is a very nice feature.17:13
cupantae(I guess that's an Xfce feature)17:13
cupantaeHere's another bit from the .log/jack/jackdbus.log17:15
cupantaeERROR: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode17:15
cupantaeSo it could be a sound card / alsa issue?17:15
OvenWerksgive me a sec, on the phone17:16
cupantaeYeah, no rush at all lol17:16
OvenWerkscupantae: it sounds like your default device is HDMI from your video?17:17
OvenWerkscupantae: in a terminal type this all as one line: cd /tmp && wget https://community.ardour.org/files/adevices.sh && bash ./adevices.sh |pastebinit17:18
OvenWerksthen give us the url that should result17:19
OvenWerks(BTW there is a newer version of -controls)17:19
EickmeyerNewer version of -controls is in Backports for Eoan and Bionic.17:24
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-backports17:24
ubottuThe Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer17:24
cupantaeOvenWerks: will try and report back hopefully soon17:27
cupantaeEickmeyer: I'll take a look at that too17:28
Eickmeyercupantae: Also, just to note: your screenshot showed you hadn't set an audio device. "default" doesn't always work, it's best to just specify when stuff isn't working.17:28
cupantaeEickmeyer: OK let's start with that17:29
cupantaeYeah I think this might be the issue. There are 4 HDMI devices showing and another.. I am not using HDMI17:30
cupantaeOh! Pavucontrol shows no devices at all17:32
OvenWerksThat is correct17:32
cupantaeOK17:33
cupantaeIt seems like it's running now :)17:33
OvenWerkspavucontrol should just show jacksink/source17:33
cupantaeI just selected the non-17:33
cupantaewhoops17:33
cupantaepavucontrol shows just dummy output17:33
cupantaeOh no, now that jack is working, you're right17:34
EickmeyerThat means pulseaudio isn't running/there are no jack bridges.17:34
cupantaeI see17:34
OvenWerksI think it was just jack was not there yet17:34
cupantaeI just selected the non-HDMI card before hitting Start/Restart in USC.17:34
OvenWerkscupantae: right17:34
cupantaeIt's called "PCH,0,0 playback and capture (ALC255 Analog)"17:35
OvenWerksPCH maybe17:35
cupantaeWell done :) I suppose that's my laptop speakers?17:35
OvenWerksPCH is generally what on board audio is called17:35
cupantaeCool beans17:36
cupantaeThis is great anyway! Thank you both OvenWerks and Eickmeyer. No need to edit config files or anything =D17:36
EickmeyerYep. It just works. (tm)17:37
OvenWerksIt used to be almost always what showed as default, but many newer systems put hdmi first17:37
cupantaeIt's certainly working. Now I just have to teach myself how to use these programs XD17:51
OvenWerkscupantae: the main thing to remember with jack is that not all programs auto connect to the audio device. Use patchage or Carla to check or make new connections18:00
Turdlarregarding carla and patchage - i keep seeing them recommended for hooking things up with eachother. what are the differences from them to qjackctl and aconnectgui?18:04
Turdlarim asking because qjackctl has gotten me through most everything i wanted to achieve18:08
OvenWerksTurdlar: those are both fine too.18:08
Turdlarand the interface is way less scary in comparison to carla and patchage18:09
OvenWerksWe try to avoid recommending qjackctl because using it to start jack gives problems for people using USB mics18:09
OvenWerksthat is two devices at the same time18:09
Turdlarhaha, ouch! that explains the first 10 hours of troubleshooting i did in ubuntu studio18:10
OvenWerksWith qjackctl there are some many paramters the chance of making it so nothing works is easy18:11
Turdlari got around it by disabling all other sound inpit or output sources on a bios level18:11
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-controls18:12
ubottuUbuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls18:12
EickmeyerAnd think of Carla's patchbay as exaclty that: connecting wires between devices. It's that simple.18:12
Turdlarbut why is qjackctl included then? if it creates known issues  with common hardware, then i figure it would be easier to leave it out?18:13
EickmeyerTurdlar: Because it's part of the Jack package and we can't exclude it.18:13
Turdlarah. ok18:13
OvenWerksAnd some people just don't want to change :)18:14
Eickmeyer^18:14
Turdlarit seems like Patchage is showing more options for me to connect, compared to Carla18:14
Turdlarlooking forward to play around with it18:14
EickmeyerIf that works for you, then go for it.18:14
EickmeyerNew carla version will be dropping soon for 20.04, but for reasons can't be backported.18:15

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